Columbia Access Television (CAT) Pres. Jeff Bassinson (Columbia Missouri)
sent the following post to chiro-list but it has not yet appeared; so I am
posting it to chiro-list too...

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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: HIV/AIDS Suspected Child Abuse Report: Also: Bradley Method and
Nurse Milos et al. perpetuate mass child abuse by OBGYNs (and Janel Martin
is helping..)


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> On Jan 10, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Todd Gastaldo wrote:
>
>> HIV/AIDS SUSPECTED CHILD ABUSE REPORT...
>>
>> Attention: Los Angeles County DA Steve COOLEY and Chief Deputy DA Bill
>> HODGMAN (via
>> webmail@...,JoeScott@...,Sandi@...
>> ,jrobison@...,SDavila@...): WARNING: An HIV/ AIDS
>> hoax makes infants scream - for no medical indications - and perpetuates
>> relatively MINOR mass child abuse by OBGYNs. MAJOR mass child abuse
>> crimes of OBGYNs are discussed below. Some babies are DYING. Please
>> STOP the massive MD child abuse crimes - NOW. I am in favor of pardons
>> in advance for MDs. As medical students, MDs are TRAINED to perform the
>> obvious felonies discussed below - with MD professors LYING to them...
>>
>> Note: UCLA-trained Steve Harris, MD arrogantly boasts that if DA's don't
>> enforce the law, MDs aren't committing crime! See Dr. Harris' arrogant
>> boast quoted below...
>>
>> BRADLEY METHOD (see below) AND NURSE MILOS ET AL. PERPETUATE MASS CHILD
>> ABUSE BY OBGYNs...
>>
>> JANEL MARTIN IS HELPING - **FILMING** NURSE MILOS INDICATING "WE" ARE
>> "NORMALIZING" MASS CHILD ABUSE THAT "WE" ARE INFLICTING (see the trailer
>> transcript/excerpt below)....
>>
>> Earth to Nurse Milos (and Janel): "WE" aren't committing mass child
>> abuse - **OBGYNS** are committing mass child abuse...
>>
>> **MAJOR** OBGYN CRIMES...
>>
>> OBGYNs are closing birth canals up to 30% (see Gastaldo 1992 FREE ACCESS
>> below) and amputating up to 50% of baby blood volume (see
>> www.cordclamp.com) - and lying to cover-up - as they indirectly ADMIT ON
>> VIDEO that they KNOW they are routinely closing birth canals up to 30%.
>>
>> See OMAEP: Birth Crimes: Please REPORT - urge others to report...
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2899
>>
>> OBGYNs are also routinely slicing adult vaginas - surgically/
>> fraudulently inferring they are doing everything possible to open birth
>> canals - even as they CLOSE birth canals up to 30%.
>>
>> OBGYNs are also routinely slicing INFANT PENISES - with no medical
>> indication - even though some babies DIE and some lose their penises....
>>
>> And OBGYNs are routinely slicing UMBILICAL CORDS - immediately - thereby
>> temporarily asphyxiating babies/permanently amputating up to 50% of
>> blood volume. Again, see www.cordclamp.com.
>>
>> These are American medicine's most frequent surgical behaviors - all of
>> them OBVIOUS child abuse crimes. Some of them turn into FATAL child
>> abuse crimes.
>>
>> See again: OMAEP: Birth Crimes: Please REPORT - urge others to report...
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2899
>>
>> AS NOTED ABOVE: JANEL MARTIN IS **FILMING** NURSE MILOS INDICATING "WE"
>> ARE "NORMALIZING" MASS CHILD ABUSE THAT "WE" ARE INFLICTING...
>>
>> Transcript/excerpt...
>>
>> "It's a huge new development...and yet it's not right [David
>> Chamberlain, PhD]...In no place else in this country...[will]...an
>> American father standby and allow his baby and partner to be...violated
>> and humiliated and so abused [L. Janel Martin, MA]...It's one of the
>> greatest examples of child abuse. [Belden Johnson, MS]...These
>> abuses...are normalized...I call them normative abuse. [Nurse Marilyn
>> Milos]...It's tragic that this sort of thing happens everyday in
>> thousands of hospitals across the country. [Belden]...What's happening
>> in hospitals is the effect of cultural conditioning [Michel Odent,
>> MD]...We've normalized these terrible things we do to babies.
>> [Milos]..."
>> --From The Other Side of the Glass - the trailer. By Louann Janel Martin
>> Miranda 2008. Baby Keeper Productions. www.BabyKeeper.org.
>> babykeeper@... 573-424-0997
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVf4rzam0Xo
>>
>> I say again to Nurse Milos (and Janel): "WE" aren't committing mass
>> child abuse - **OBGYNS** are committing mass child abuse...
>>
>> A KEY POINT IN NURSE MILOS' HISTORY...
>>
>> Mass child abuse perpetuator/"normalizer" Nurse Milos used to sell a
>> bumper sticker which read: "Child Abuse Begins With Circumcision."
>>
>> Actually, the mass child abuse begins with OBGYN lies and is perpetuated
>> by Nurse Milos' silence/failure to report - and "prosecutorial
>> discretion" - DAs looking the other way.
>>
>> There are NO MEDICAL INDICATIONS - and - as noted above - some babies
>> die or lose their penises...
>>
>> There are BILLIONS to be recovered from the OBGYN perpetrators^^^.
>>
>> FURTHER NURSE MILOS HISTORY...
>>
>> In late 1987, Nurse Milos promised me she would organize en masse nurse
>> reporting by Jan. 1, 1988.
>>
>> She didn't do it.
>>
>> Later, Nurse Milos told me that Dean Edell, MD told her it wasn't TIME
>> yet to report; then she said it "wouldn't do any good" to report; then
>> she said she didn't know of any MDs doing circumcisions; and when I
>> pointed out that she sold a VIDEO of a circumcision - she said she
>> "wouldn't do that to the doctor." I asked "Do WHAT to the doctor - I
>> thought you said reporting wouldn't do any good...."
>>
>> Ultimately, Nurse Milos VOTED not to report the suspected mass child
>> abuse, thereby kicking Julia Attwood off the NO CIRC Board. (Ms. Attwood
>> had composed a resolution making her continued service on the NO CIRC
>> board contingent on NO CIRC nurses simply REPORTING the mass child abuse
>> Nurse Milos so obviously suspected/suspects...)
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/1773
>>
>> Ms. Attwood (just mentioned) condensed my Open Letter to the Chief Rabbi
>> of England into an oft-cited Midwifery Today article...
>>
>> See Rich 'holy shit' Winkel is 'horrifed'; but he fails to urge
>> reporting the horror as mass child abuse
>> http://groups.google.com.eg/group/misc.health.alternative/
>> browse_thread/thread/b4db722ed7584780
>>
>> I PETITIONED CONGRESS FOR AN EXEMPTION FROM THE CHILD ABUSE STATUTES FOR
>> THE ANCIENT JEWISH "MINI-CIRC" RITUAL...
>>
>> (American MDs are TOTAL foreskin amputators)...
>>
>> American MDs immediately did some seemly strange things - like coming
>> out against ALL religious exemptions from the child abuse statutes
>> [Pediatrics Jan. 1988] and in favor of anonymity for PERPETRATORS of
>> child abuse [Pediatrics Feb. 1988]. (These strange MD behaviors really
>> weren't so strange: Once the ancient Jewish "mini-circ" ritual is
>> exempted from the child abuse statutes, American medicine's
>> no-medical-indication sometimes-fatal TOTAL foreskin amputation ritual
>> is instantly revealed as the mass child abuse that it is. Sometimes
>> babies DIE from American medicine's NO MEDICAL INDICATION mass infant
>> penis ripping and slicing. MD- perpetrators would indeed want to be
>> anonymous. Again, there are BILLIONS to be recovered from OBGYN and
>> MD-pediatrician - and CNMwife - perpetrators^^^)
>>
>> January and February 1988 were just "warm-up" strange MD behaviors. In
>> March 1988, America's largest state medical trade union - the California
>> Medical Association - ignored it's own Scientific Board and by voice
>> vote abruptly declared the no medical indications mass infant penis
>> ripping and slicing to be "an effective public health measure"
>> "confirmed" in Africa to prevent transmission of HIV/AIDS.
>>
>> IT WAS A HOAX. Investigation of this fraud may lead to an end to
>> HIV/AIDS. (American taxpayers were later forced to pay for "scientific"
>> slicing of African truck driver penises in a lame NIH attempt to prove
>> the obvious hoax. Pres. George W. Bush's President's Emergency Plan For
>> AIDS Relief/PEPFAR is costing American taxpayers BILLIONS - with some of
>> the money being used to promote mass slicing of African penises. Before
>> one more African penis is sliced to lower risk of transmission of
>> HIV/AIDS - Africans need to be informed that American MDs still stand to
>> go to prison for slicing INFANT penises en masse.)
>>
>> AN END TO HIV/AIDS? Check out my PROMISCUOUS AFRICANS discussion of
>> Rethinking AIDS/Duesberg - and my quote of a recent letter from
>> scientists and lawyers to the editor of the journal Science - in OMAEP:
>> Birth Crimes: Please REPORT - urge others to report...
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2899
>>
>> ^^^As noted above, there are BILLIONS to be recovered from the OBGYN
>> perpetrators: The mass infant penis ripping and slicing should have
>> ended BILLIONS of dollars' worth of infant screams ago back when I
>> exposed American medicine's phony "babies can't feel pain" neurology.
>>
>> Ending the infant screams now instantly saves America $400 million per
>> year and PRESERVES the surgery as a CHOICE males can make for themselves
>> in adulthood....
>>
>> REMEMBER: American medicine's mass infant penis ripping and slicing
>> crime is a RELATIVELY MINOR mass medical crime - though it may lead to
>> exposure of an ongoing truly massive HIV/AIDS crime...
>>
>> The OBGYNs' mass birth canal closing/vagina slicing crime is far worse
>> than the mass infant penis ripping and slicing; and so is mass temporary
>> baby asphyxation/mass permanent baby blood amputation by OBGYNs...
>>
>> Again: See OMAEP: Birth Crimes: Please REPORT - urge others to
>> report...
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2899
>>
>> JANEL MARTIN SAYS, "I don't appreciate your attacks on my colleagues."
>> (See below.)
>>
>> Janel is defending a colleague (Nurse Milos) who - like her - fails to
>> report suspected child abuse.
>>
>> I say again: Nurse Milos once VOTED not to report suspected child
>> abuse...
>>
>> Janel and Nurse Milos are helping to perpetuate mass child abuse by
>> OBGYNs.
>>
>> HERE IS JANEL'S LAME "DEFENSE"...
>>
>> My comments are interspersed ####
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Janel Martin
>> To: Todd Gastaldo
>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:28 PM
>>
>> Todd:
>>
>> I received this from a colleague whom I did NOT send your information
>> to.
>>
>> #### To whom DID you send my information? I would be much relieved to
>> hear that you sent out my information.
>>
>> She did not know this email address. It appears you have been
>> cherry-picking email addresses of my colleagues.
>>
>> #### I painstakingly GATHERED as many email addresses of your supporters
>> as I could. You are failing to urge your supporters to REPORT suspected
>> child abuse - which is ACTION that all 50 states urge/MANDATE when child
>> abuse is so much as suspected. Your supporters obviously join you in
>> suspecting child abuse. Hopefully they will NOT join you in FAILURE TO
>> REPORT.
>>
>> #### You quote "a colleague" who is "sure" my "strange" email contained
>> "important information," as in,
>>
>> what is this very strange email that was sent to me from Todd Gastaldo?
>> I have never heard of him, and the email was puzzling and odd. I'm sure
>> it contained some important information but...
>>
>> #### Please write and tell your colleague that it is MESSAGES that are
>> important - not messengers - my information is SIMPLE - nothing
>> "strange" at all about urging people to REPORT suspected child abuse.
>>
>> #### Your colleague bizarrely suggests that YOU sent the email as in,
>>
>> I suggest that if you want to send this kind of information out to
>> people and want to have it thoroughly read, and
>>
>> #### You didn't by any chance, MAKE UP a message from "a colleague" -
>> did you?
>>
>> #### Your colleague PRETENDS that the email was not "organized, readable
>> and understandable," as in,
>>
>> if you are expecting them to be able to understand it and take some
>> action it would need to be organized, readable and understandable.
>>
>> #### Your colleague is apparently offended by my use of GRAPHIC
>> DESCRIPTION to cut through medical euphemism. She said:
>>
>> It seems this doctor is asking for people to take action and is using
>> very extreme language to shock people,
>>
>> #### CHILD ABUSE is "extreme language" that shocks people!! They can't
>> believe their trusted MDs can be doing these things! Child abuse is
>> CORRECT language. FAILURE TO REPORT child abuse is also correct
>> language.
>>
>> #### (LOL! It only SEEMS to your colleague that I am asking people to
>> take action?)
>>
>> some simple things like easy instructions on what you can actually do
>> would help,
>>
>> #### Your colleague must not be a mandatory reporter of child abuse.
>> Most mandatory reporters don't need instructions on reporting suspected
>> child abuse - or shouldn't. Please email your colleague and refer her
>> to online child abuse reporting instructions for her state. Or send me
>> her email address and I will do so...
>>
>> instead of endless repetitions
>>
>> #### LOL! Endless repetitions. How many repetitions does it take for
>> her to see my simple message: ATTENTION JANEL'S COLLEAGUE: If you so
>> much as SUSPECT child abuse: REPORT it - IMMEDIATELY - IT'S THE LAW.
>>
>> #### Janel, YOU might consider repeating this simple message - in your
>> film.
>>
>> and lots of web site links that could take hours and hours to explore.
>>
>> #### LOL! The links are there so the post can be shorter.
>>
>> I'm sure you are doing good work but don't spoil it by sending out
>> nonsense.
>>
>> #### Janel, it is your colleague who spews nonsense - sort of like YOUR
>> nonsense - failing to urge people to REPORT the child abuse they so
>> obviously suspect.
>>
>> #### And now defending your colleague Nurse Milos who once VOTED not to
>> file mandatory suspected child abuse reports!
>>
>> #### You apologized:
>>
>> I am sorry ...
>>
>> #### You SHOULD apologize - to babies - and to the fathers you are
>> duping.
>>
>> I had hoped you might be in a place of communication and cooperative
>> work with others who share your concern for babies and women, while
>> clearly not with such venom.
>>
>> #### Do NOT pretend that your concern equals mine. Your "concern" has
>> you calling the massive crimes what they are - child abuse - but oddly
>> FAILING to report and urge others (fathers) to report.
>>
>> #### Can it be possible that you WORK for/are getting paid under the
>> table by the mass child abusing OBGYNs - in addition to the donations
>> you acknowledge?
>>
>> You must cease your use of my name and information...
>>
>> #### FALSE. You are failing to report mass child abuse. You have made
>> a trailer for a FILM which interviews people like Nurse Milos who VOTED
>> not to report suspected mass child abuse - and you are failing to ask
>> Nurse Milos about her bizarre behavior on camera. Sorry to repeat
>> myself, but you are not only failing to report child abuse, you are
>> aiding and abetting a nurse who VOTED not to report suspected mass child
>> abuse. You are a child abuse perpetuator - like Nurse Milos.
>>
>> to further your cause in the manner in the violent and abrasive manner
>> in which you do.
>>
>> #### I further my cause in a TRUTHFUL manner. You lie by omission.
>> Your cause is apparently to impede me in mine - which is to cause LAW
>> ENFORCEMENT to finally stop ignoring the mass child abuse by OBGYNs.
>>
>> I don't appreciate your attacks on my colleagues
>>
>> #### Your colleagues are mass child abuse perpetuators like you.
>>
>> and I don't appreciate my information being used out of context. Stop
>> it.
>>
>> #### I **link** to context. If you have context which indicates that
>> you are NOT failing to report child abuse - please tell me.
>>
>> Janel
>>
>> #### Janel, the ONLY thing keeping you and Nurse Milos out of prison for
>> your child abuse perpetuation/failure to report mass child abuse - is
>> the fact that LAW ENFORCEMENT is failing to INVESTIGATE/PROSECUTE - and
>> MDs (and you) know it...
>>
>> #### ACTION: The more people - the more mandatory reporters and fathers
>> for example - who start taking the MINIMUM action - REPORTING suspected
>> child abuse - the sooner law enforcement will stop looking the other
>> way...
>>
>> #### Say it in your film - REPEAT it in your film.
>>
>> #### Check out the arrogant boast that one MD offered when I pointed out
>> yet ANOTHER mass child abuse crime - fraudulent vaccination promotion
>> using PLANNED endangerment of VACCINATED children during disease
>> outbreaks...
>>
>> #### ALSO - check out the fact that MDs (and CDC) are lying by omission
>> thereby commiting mass IMMUNOLOGIC child abuse - mass denial of free
>> daily immunizations...
>>
>> #### And Janel - note that you aren't the only one running...
>>
>> #### The guy who bought a computer for you to use is also running....
>>
>> See again: Rich 'holy shit' Winkel is 'horrifed'; but he fails to urge
>> reporting the horror as mass child abuse
>> http://groups.google.com.eg/group/misc.health.alternative/
>> browse_thread/thread/b4db722ed7584780
>>
>> #### Also, my fellow doctors of chiropractic are running the other
>> way....
>>
>> #### See below.
>>
>>>>>> BEGIN excerpt of OMAEP: Birth Crimes: Please REPORT - urge others to
>>>>>> report...
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2899
>>
>> Steve Harris, MD arrogantly boasts:
>>
>> "Without enforcement, there is no law. Without law, there is no
>> crime.These
>> are elementary principles. Get an adult to explain them to you."
>> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.pregnancy/msg/ 28866f3384801ae9
>>
>> Dr. Harris' arrogant boast came after I exposed yet another mass medical
>> crime - fraudulent promotion of vaccination using PLANNED endangerment
>> of
>> VACCINATED children during disease outbreaks.
>>
>> For details...
>>
>> See Medicine's Vaccination Subluxation
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2222
>>
>> ALSO: MDs ARE DENYING MASSIVE NUMBERS OF BABIES MASSIVE NUMBERS OF FREE
>> DAILY IMMUNIZATIONS
>>
>> Years ago, the mass vagina slicing discussed above got babies six
>> weeks'worth of free daily immunizations....
>>
>> See Breastfeed 'til your vagina heals (THANKS Martina Nicholson, MD!)
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2595
>>
>> For further info regarding breastfeedings being free daily
>> immunizations......and MDs and CDC lying by omission to DENY free daily
>> immunizations...
>>
>> See The God Subluxation (also: a US Govt mission is to
>> raiseSPIRITUALhealth
>> of American Indians - "to the highest level"...)
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2560
>>
>> The mass denial of free daily immunizations constitutes mass IMMUNOLOGIC
>> child abuse to go along with the mass birth-canal-closing PHYSICAL child
>> abuse.
>>
>> FURTHER REGARDING THE **PHYSICAL** CHILD ABUSE BY OBGYNs...IT'S
>> UNETHICAL
>> FOR CHIROPRACTIC PHYSICIANS TO FAIL TO TRY TO **PREVENT**THAT WHICH THEY
>> TREAT...
>>
>> Chiropractic physicians indicate that birth trauma can cause vertebral
>> subluxations.
>>
>> ACA's Nebraska Delegate ERIC A. BENSON, DC writes:
>>
>> "Subluxations...may occur in infancy from a difficult birth..."
>> http://www.drericbenson.com/Click on "Chiropractic Methods" then on
>> "Read
>> the facts about chiropractic"(Accessed Nov. 9, 2008)
>>
>> ACA member Michael C. Martin, DC, DABCO offers a percentage:
>>
>> "85-95% of all subluxations I see in adults and children, can be traced
>> to a
>> difficult delivery..."
>> http://www.martinchiropracticoffice.com/new.html
>>
>> But ACA mysteriously deleted its birth trauma policy...
>>
>> Similarly, the Canadian Chiropractic Association/CCA made a deletion...
>>
>> CCA USED to say on its website:
>>
>> "...If you wonder how children could possibly need chiropractic
>> adjustments,consider...[that the] birth process itself...places delicate
>> little spinaljoints undergreat stress.http://www.ccachiro.org/ (Click on
>> CCA
>> icon - then on "Chiropractic Tips" -then on "FurtherBenefits of
>> Chiropractic") <--DELETED SHORTLY AFTER I QUOTED IT TO ALBERTA
>> CHIROPRACTOR
>> DR. STUART HYDERMAN.
>>
>> Medical doctors are committing obvious CRIMES - and chiropractic doctors
>> are
>> running the other way...
>>
>> That's not chiropractic.
>>
>>>>>> END excerpt of OMAEP: Birth Crimes: Please REPORT - urge others to
>>>>>> report...
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2899
>>
>> FINALLY JANEL...
>>
>> REGARDING MARJIE AND JAY HATHAWAY AND THE BRADLEY METHOD...
>>
>> I noted your statement:
>>
>> "Ms. Hathaway, the founder of Bradley will also be in film. "
>> http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?
>> all_comments&v=wVf4rzam0Xo&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DwVf4rzam0Xo
>>
>> Please forward this post to Jay and Marjie Hathaway...
>>
>> Semisitting closes the birth canal up to 30%.
>>
>> For the simple birth-canal-closing biomechanics and clinical and
>> radiographic cites from the medical literature - see Gastaldo TD.
>> Letter.
>> BIRTH. 1992;19(4):230-1.
>> http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/toc/bir/19/4, FREE ACCESS.
>>
>> THE HATHAWAYS/THE BRADLEY METHOD SAY...
>>
>> "It is husband's job...to help her into a semi-sitting position."
>> http://www.bradleybirth.com/WIHCC.aspx
>>
>> Dr. Bradley himself said:
>>
>> "[T]he squatting position...is accomplished...by...propping up your
>> wife's
>> curved back with pillows...(p. 120)"
>> --Robert A. Bradley, MD. Husband-Coached Childbirth. 4th ed. NY: Bantam
>> 1996]
>>
>> Semisitting (closing the birth canal up to 30%) is NOT squatting
>> (allowing the birth canal to OPEN maximally).
>>
>> THE BRADLEY METHOD IS HUSBAND-COACHED BIRTH-CANAL-CLOSING
>>
>> Jay Hathaway is STILL promoting birth-canal-closing/semisitting over 10
>> years after I told him he was doing this - over 10 years after he
>> promised he would stop....
>>
>> Again, Janel, please forward this post to Jay and Marjie Hathaway.
>>
>> If you haven't already interviewed Marjie - you might want to ask her
>> about Bradley Method still promoting birth-canal-closing/ semisitting
>> delivery - encouraging husbands to do the job.
>>
>> You might want to ask her about this even if you HAVE already
>> interviewed her.
>>
>> AGAIN: THE BRADLEY METHOD IS HUSBAND-COACHED BIRTH-CANAL-CLOSING
>>
>> NOTE: Before Dr. Bradley fraudulently equated semisitting and squatting
>> (see above), Dr. Grantley Dick-Read ("Childbirth Without Fear")
>> fraudulently equated dorsal lithotomy and squatting....
>>
>> See Bradley Method Birth Crime: Husband-Coached Birth-Canal-Closing...
>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2900
>>
>> Thanks for reading.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> Dr. Gastaldo
>> Hillsboro, Oregon
>> USA
>> todd@...
>>
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