----- Original Message -----

From: dyoung@...

To: tgastaldo@...

Cc: PearblossomInc@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:46 AM

Subject: Imagine this as a play...you one of the players...but we aredealing with destroyed babies. that is not funny, is it.Fwd: innuendoimplied here, Todd, you check up on my actual reporting as requested, okay.Bozo Dr. Goldman and Bozo Dr. Standring - PhD foot-draggers - babies bedamned

Todd,

While you are not yet in Court, you are stating medical precautions, so why not stick to the facts, without name calling in your means of reprimands.  You just enjoy the name calling don't you.  

#### Ad hominem is fine as long is it is backed up by SUBSTANTIVE CRITICISM.

  ASk them would they rather be called liars, who cannot then enter the Kingdom of Heaven, if found true, or less condemning names. Those are the only ones who I know who can't enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

#### Heaven and hell are right here on earth, say the Gnostics, I am told.  I don't know - they don't know - Bible-beaters don't know - they only have FAITH.

But, then in the alternative,  Who wants to be called a bozo? for what they think is a difference of opinion, or what the law allows them to do, or not to do?

##### Who wants to perpetuate teachings that perpetuate mass child abuse?  Bozos - or those working for the medical machine.  I don't think Standring or Goldman are bozos.  I think they are intentionally failing to do the obvious - possibly because that is their JOB.  You may be in the same boat - your focus on my profanity rather than the REASON for it are highly suspect.

Some cuttings of interest:

### LOL!  FORMER chiro-listowner Kevin Thos McGann said, "Todd, grow the
f**k up" - used profanity.

What is the Federal of State law to report, and the possible International Human Rights Law, when others outside of the USA or Canada, dictate harmful policies, or refuse to correct serious medical printings that put mother and babies in harm's way.  That is how you educate them, use the law precedents, or criminal codes, or the Constitutional law, which unites all States, Federally.  Don't demean yourself, by name-calling, if the facts and truth are on your side, state them......just state them, okay. But not in this fashion, okay.

#### You are either dumb or working for the mass child abusers.  **I** am the one who has been pointing out that the LAW should be used - specifically the child protection statutes.  It was like pulling teeth to get you to start calling the mass baby strangulation "child abuse."  Now you need to go farther and start calling Dr. Goldman a fraud for FAILING TO EDITORIALIZE about what REPORTEDLY happened two years ago.  He may NOT have reported.  The UCLA Compliance Officer email may have been a ruse to give Dr. Goldman some cover as he does his job for the mass child abusers and FAILS to report on UCLA police deeming his reports "not acceptable" - if indeed he ever filed them.

> DR. McGANN and DR. GOLDMAN ARE SOPHISTS IN THE MODERN SENSE - DECEIVERS
> (see Wikipedia below^^^)...
>
> Dr. McGann and Dr. Goldman say it is "ludicrous" to give children the
> benefit of suspected child abuse reporting.  Dr. McGann clarifies: It
> is "ludicrous," he says to report "TO POLICE" (Dr. McGann's emphasis)...

They may be misinformed that the duty is to report all false protocols, policies, and procedures that do put other's in harm's way, when there are known safer options, but are not shared for specifc informed consent. 

#### No.  It's simpler than that.  When child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED - report.

That is why I too, have reported birth situations, my own, as a witnessed what was done to my body, and my baby / babies, of no specific informed consent or rights to know I could decline, protocols, policies, and procedures, known to put be and my fetus in harm's way. 

#### You have FAILED to report in accord with BC instructions which I have repeatedly posted for you.  You are suspect too.

But the means to get it into the court are being blocked by those who have an implied duty, to report false protocols, that are testable, visual, and measurably fase methods of care. 

#### This is MY point - but again - you make things too complicated - when child abuse is suspected - report - it's that simple.  You are failing to report in accord with BC instructions....

 But are put into standards of harmful care for time convenience, and likely harvesting all babies for their criminally, and wrongfully deprived placenta blood infusion, into their expanding lungs.  |Or the criminal instruction to revive a child off their means of that blood infusion by directing harmful early umbilical cord clamping against all reason and logic, and of no specific informed consent.

#### LOL!  The Forum article you co-authored with others including ghost co-author Goldman "dealt" with no informed consent - and Goldman gave that as a reason he censored the Four OB Lies from the birth synthesis he plagiarized - AND YOU ARE GOING ALONG WITH HIS GRISLY GAG - focusing on my profanity instead of the REASON for my profanity. 

Consent is not implied, just by calling 9-1-1, or entering a hospital. |It must be specific with the knowledge shared of the risk factors associated with the intended training or care, or use of equipment, such as x-rays, scans, and drugs, and cutting of one's body.

#### You ditz.  Censor Goldman censored the Four OB Lies from his plagiarism and you re-published the mess - without telling people about the Four OB Lies.

#### You are part of the problem.

Donna




----- Forwarded message from tgastaldo@... -----
    Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:16:57 -0800
    From: Todd Gastaldo <tgastaldo@...>
Reply-To: Todd Gastaldo <tgastaldo@...>
Subject: Bozo Dr. Goldman and Bozo Dr. Standring - PhD foot-draggers - babies be damned
      To: dyoung@...
      Cc: moscarello8@..., chiro-list@yahoogroups.com, chiro-list3@yahoogroups.com

BOZO DR. GOLDMAN AND BOZO DR. STANDRING - PhD FOOT-DRAGGERS - BABIES BE
DAMNED

Donna Young asks:

"Could you use swearing in the Public Court room? or name calling?"

#### We are not in a "Public Court room."

"I have no objections to truth and facts of your knowledge orexpertise..."

#### Who could have objections to these things?

but....name calling would not be allowed in the court room...Idoubt it could
be allowed."

#### Again, we are not in a "Public Court room."

#### Focus on (stop ignoring) the REASON I was moved to profanity - i.e. -
Dr. Goldman's bizarre plagiarism/censorship behavior and his ongoing FAILURE
TO EDITORIALIZE about UCLA police reportedly deeming his suspected child
abuse reports "not acceptable."

#### Speaking of which...

>>>>BEGIN excerpt of Suspect behaviors of Dr. Goldman and Ms. Young
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/19

Join me in urging Dr. Goldman to EDITORIALIZE (finally) about what
happened - UCLA police deemed his reports "not acceptable" - after which
UCLA Compliance Officer William Cormier said this UCLA police behavior was
"appropriate."

Dr. Goldman's ongoing failure to editorialize is making it appear more and
more like the bizarre email from UCLA Compliance Officer Cormier was a hoax
designed to make it APPEAR that Dr. Goldman reported two years ago when in
fact (it appears) he did not.

Remember:  Two years ago, Dr. Goldman promised to report - then he decided
not to - and when I brought up this fact two years later - he protested he
did report - after which someone from UC Berkeley (unnamed) reportedly
forwarded one of my emails to UCLA - which is what generated UCLA Compliance
Officer Cormier's possibly fraudulent email.

Dr. Goldman's cowardly ongoing FAILURE TO EDITORIALIZE is highly suspect -
as is your failure to report as prescribed by BC authorities...

>>>>END excerpt of Suspect behaviors of Dr. Goldman and Ms. Young
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/19

#### Further comments ####

----- Original Message -----
From: dyoung@...
To: Todd Gastaldo
Cc: moscarello8@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:21 AM
Subject: Could you use swearing in the Public Court room? or name
calling?Re: I have no objections to truth and facts of your knowledge
orexpertise...but....name calling would not be allowed in the court
room...Idoubt it could be allowed.Dr. Gastaldo is a sophist in the ANCIENT
sense -one who "does" wisdom; Dr. McGann and Dr. Goldman are sophists in
themodern sense - deceivers

Todd, all Gary and are Saying is that you are making the principal operator
or owner of the web site, accountabile to your self-passions, and
expressions.

### LOL!  FORMER chiro-listowner Kevin Thos McGann said, "Todd, grow the
f**k up" - used profanity.

The chiro-list is  not your own property,

#### False.  The chiro-list IS my own property now - it's sort of leased
online space - by Yahoo.

bot another was put in harm's way of being likely legally  accountable for
your passionate words, that are deemed not of wisdom, to get your message
out.

#### LOL - with his aping of Dr. Goldman's false
suspected-child-abuse-reporting-is-"ludicrous" sentiment - calling me a liar
on this point - Dr. McGann puts HIMSELF in harm's way.  Ultimately, the
COURTS decide issues of libel.  Significantly, re-publishing perceived libel
is explicitly legal - at least in California - after the Calif. Supreme
Court's recent decision in BARRETT v. ROSENTHAL.

It is not necessary to call anyone names, or describe them as a bozo, eh.

#### YOU are a bozo - focusing on my profanity instead of the EXCELLENT
reason for it.  Babies are being made to suffer through birth "atrocities"
(Bozo Dr. Goldman's word) and another bozo - the British Gray's
Editor-in-Chief Susan Standring, PhD bozo is failing to correct the text she
edits - with the Medical Veritas Editor-in-Chief Gary Goldman, PhD bozo
letting her get away with it for TWO YEARS and counting - with (I say again)
the Donna Young bozo focusing on my profanity instead of the excellent
reason for it.

You just correct them of statements of truth......they are not as wise as
you........

#### I suspect both are far more intelligent - though not perhaps in certain
areas.

so educate them on the facts, visual, testable, and measurable of why it is
putting mothers and the infant in harm's way. by closing their birth canal
up to 30% closure, when the opening can be that much for a safer birth and
outcome, the results to both mother and child.

#### I HAVE educated them.

So I belived you did not put my concerns in context.........did you.

#### What?


Quoting Todd Gastaldo <tgastaldo@...>:

> DR. GASTALDO IS A SOPHIST IN THE **ANCIENT** SENSE - ONE WHO "DOES"
> WISDOM (see Wikipedia below^^^)...
>
> (Relative to the deceipt of Drs. McGann and Goldman - see below - it is
> WISE for Dr. Gastaldo to insist that children are afforded the benefit
> of suspected child abuse reporting - the MINIMUM protection offered by
> the child protection statutes.)
>
> DECEIVERS: DRS. McGANN AND GOLDMAN...
>
> DR. McGANN and DR. GOLDMAN ARE SOPHISTS IN THE MODERN SENSE - DECEIVERS
> (see Wikipedia below^^^)...
>
> Dr. McGann and Dr. Goldman say it is "ludicrous" to give children the
> benefit of suspected child abuse reporting.  Dr. McGann clarifies: It
> is "ludicrous," he says to report "TO POLICE" (Dr. McGann's emphasis)...
>
> Dr. McGann's deceit is obvious:  It is MANDATORY to report to police
> when child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED....
>
> (If Dr. McGann was not aware that that is how the child protection
> statutes work, then he may just need training.)
>
> ^^^According to Wikipedia...
>
> Sophism can mean two very different things: In the modern
> definition, a sophism is a confusing or illogical argument used for
> deceiving someone. In Ancient Greece, the sophists were a group of
> teachers of philosophy and rhetoric...The term sophism originates
> from Greek sophistes, meaning "wise-ist", one who "does" wisdom, one
> who makes a business out of wisdom (sophós means "wise man").
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophism
>
> DONNA YOUNG BROUGHT UP THE TOPIC OF SOPHISM...
>
> MS. YOUNG PRETENDS THAT DR. GOLDMAN'S DECEIPT IS OK - BECAUSE DR.
> GASTALDO USED "BAD WORDS" TO DESCRIBE IT.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: dyoung@...
> To: pearblossominc@...
> Cc: tgastaldo@...
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Yes, it is being an sophist...clever, but not true. I'm
> beingtaken out of context...maybe Gary, too. Copy and paste, my exact
> words,Todd...Just passing on the latest e-mail I received from Todd...
>
> I SAY AGAIN:  Relative to the deceipt of Drs. McGann and Goldman...
>
> DR. GASTALDO IS A SOPHIST IN THE **ANCIENT** SENSE - ONE WHO "DOES"
> WISDOM (see Wikipedia^^^)...
>
> ^^^...In Ancient Greece, the sophists were a group of teachers of
> philosophy and rhetoric...The term sophism originates from Greek
> sophistes, meaning "wise-ist", one who "does" wisdom, one who makes
> a business out of wisdom (sophós means "wise man").
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophism
>
> DR. GOLDMAN RECENTLY LIED...
>
> Quoting pearblossominc@...:
>
>> Dear Donna,
>>
>> Todd has always quoted only a portion of my response that satisfies
>> his twisted understanding. This is nothing new.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Gary
>>
> <snip>
>
> LOL!
>
> GOLDMAN **CENSORS** AND **PRETENDS** MY UNDERSTANDING IS "TWISTED."
>
> As I've previously written....
>
>>>>> BEGIN excerpt of The AMA comment again: Censor McGann further
>>>>> apes Censor Goldman
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/14
>
>>>
>>> Dr. Goldman plagiarised my synthesis and censored the Four OB Lies -
>>> censoring because he felt I was being "self-serving," he said.
>>>
>>> See Birth in America: Suspected Child Abuse
>>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/3299 <--censored
>>> by Dr. McGann
>>>
>>> Alternative URL:
>>> http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med/2005-03/0526.html
>>>
>>> All I did was truthfully state what I had done. And I spent my valuable
>>> time doing so **at Dr. Goldman's request**!
>>>
>>> Dr. Goldman CENSORED me for my trouble - failed to publicize the Four OB
>>> Lies...
>>>
>>> See Gary Goldman's 'Medical Veritas': Truth or whitewash?
>>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/3295 <--censored
>>> by Dr. McGann
>>>
>>> Alternative URL:
>>> http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med/2005-03/0493.html
>>>
>
>>>>> END excerpt of The AMA comment again: Censor McGann further apes
>>>>> Censor Goldman
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/14
>
> Dr. Goldman deceitfully hitchhikes on UCLA Compliance Officer Cormier's
> fraud that there is a standard-of-practice exemption in the child abuse
> statutes - Dr. Goldman posits an "AMA" standard-of-practice exemption
> in the child abuse statutes.
>
> I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE:  Does Censor McGann - who joined
> Censor Goldman in calling suspected
> child abuse reporting "ludicrous" - now join Censor Goldman in proposing
> the non-existent exemption in the child abuse statutes for "AMA"
> standard-of-practice suspected child abuse birth "atrocities" (?)
>
> CENSOR McGANN PRETENDS SILENCE IS SUPPORT OF CENSORSHIP
>
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/15
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr.KEV
> To: chiro-list@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [chiro-list] Ms. Young wrote: 'He deserved to be censored...I
> hope he suffered long and hard' - was Re: I don't recall those words,
> suffered long and hard..not you, theone with patience, suffers...send an
> unedited paragraph, please.
>
> No one on my (original) chiro-list has come forward to protest my
> rejecting
> Todd.
>
> #### When a censor threatens censorship (of an "uncensored" list!) many
> will
> remain silent because THEY don't wish to be censored.
>
> Why does he not get the message?
>
> #### LOL!  NO one - except you and me - "get the message" - because you
> CENSORED - you twit.
>
> Why does he not publish the names and addresses of the people who set the
> policy and can change it?
>
> #### I ROUTINELY publish names and addresses of MDs who can change the
> policy - but criminals are not likely going to change criminal policies
> because changing criminal policies would be understandably perceived as
> admission of the crime - which is partly why I favor pardons in advance
> for
> MDs.
>
> Why does he continue to only attack people who are actually trying to get
> the policies changed?
>
> ##### LOL!
>
>>>>> BEGIN excerpt of The AMA comment again: Censor McGann further apes
>>>>> Censor Goldman
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/14
>
> #### This is an interesting allegation given that Censor McGann's
> pro-censorship ally - Censor Goldman - suggested there is an exemption in
> the child abuse laws for "AMA" standard-of-practice behaviors that he
> suspects are child abuse birth "atrocities." I pointed this out in a
> message that Censor McGann censored....
>
> See
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/13 <--REPOST
> because
> Censor McGann censored.
>
> #### Does Censor McGann - who joined Censor Goldman in calling suspected
> child abuse reporting "ludicrous" - now join Censor Goldman in proposing
> this non-existent exemption in the child abuse statutes for "AMA"
> standard-of-practice suspected child abuse birth "atrocities" (?)
>
> #### Censor McGann's comment "Todd, grow the f**k up" sounded a lot like
> the
> arrogant boastful Steve Harris, MD who is quoted above, as in,
>
>>> Steve Harris, MD arrogantly boasts:
>>>
>>> "Without enforcement, there is no law. Without law, there is no crime.
>>> These are elementary principles. Get an adult to explain them to you."
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.pregnancy/msg/
>>> 28866f3384801ae9
>>>
>>> (I had pointed out to Dr. Harris that MDs are fraudulently promoting
>>> vaccinations by PLANNING to endanger vaccinated children during disease
>>> outbreaks. For my latest post on this subject, see:
>>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list3/message/39)
>>>
>>> Dr. McGann's silence/censorship is most bizarre given the recent
>>> MD-pediatrician call for collaboration - "particularly" with
>>> chiropractors -
>>> to investigate and report harms of spinal manipulation of children:
>>>
>>> "'Patient safety demands a greater collaboration between the medical
>>> community and other health care professionals, particularly
>>> chiropractors, such that we can investigate and report harms related to
>>> spinal manipulation together.'
>>> --Sunita Vohra, MD FRCPC MSc et al.^^^ Pediatrics. 2007 Jan;
>>> 119(1):e275-83. Epub 2006 Dec 18. PubMed abstract
>>>
>>> WHY DID DR. McGANN SUDDENLY CENSOR HIS "UNCENSORED" LIST
>>>
>>> DID "CHIROPRACTIC" ATTORNEY MIKE SCHROEDER MEET DR. McGANN IN AMSTERDAM?
>>>
>>> All possibilities must be considered until the mysterious censorship is
>>> explained. Censorship helps perpetuate the mass child abuse.
>>>
>>> According to the Los Angeles Times, "chiropractic" Attorney Mike
>>> Schroeder
>>> visited Amsterdam "on business" on Oct. 30, 2007 - or rather - he was
>>> there when an Oct. 30, 2007 story was being written...
>>> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-carona30oct30,0,327619.story
>>>
>>> That same month, I mentioned "Chiropractic" Attorney Schroeder in an
>>> Oct.
>>> 4, 2007 post...
>>>
>>> See Judge Nares: Birth-canal-closing: Do Egyptian obstetricians do it?
>>> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/4
>>>
>>> Specifically, I mentioned (in that Oct. 4, 2007 post) that an earlier
>>> post
>>> about Atty Schroeder had been CENSORED...
>>>
>>> Dr. McGann lives in or near Amsterdam.
>>>
>>> Until the first mysterious censorship - and Dr. McGann's recent MASSIVE
>>> censorship (reporting child abuse to police is "ludicrous" says Dr.
>>> McGann) - are explained otherwise - I can't help discussing Atty
>>> Schroeder's first SLAPP censorship (see below) and the possibility that
>>> Atty Schroeder went to Amsterdam to meet Dr. McGann to stimulate further
>>> censorship...
>>>
>
>>>>> END excerpt of The AMA comment again: Censor McGann further apes
>>>>> Censor
>>>>> Goldman
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/14
>
> At 09:51 AM 12/3/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>> "HE DESERVED TO BE CENSORED...I HOPE HE SUFFERED LONG AND HARD" -
>> HERE'S THE
>> CONTEXT... See below. #### I SAY AGAIN...
>>
>>>
>>> Your Canadian case is important.
>>>
>>> Let us focus on it.
>>>
>>> Have you reported yet to proper BC authorities?
>>>
>>> You emailed the ministry and telephoned both 911 and 310.1234?
>>>
>>> Did you get the name/identifier of each person with whom you spoke as I
>>> advised?
>>>
>>> If not, report again and get the name/identifier of each person with
>>> whom you speak.
>>>
>>> I will follow-up if you get telephone numbers (with area code) that I
>>> can call from the US.
>>>
>>> I will memorialize the details of my telephone follow-up - I will give
>>> names/identifiers - cc'ing the Ministry and archiving my post in
>>> Chiro-list 3.
>>>
>>> I urge you to publicly state that Gary S. Goldman, PhD corroborated our
>>> info with physicians and reported suspected child abuse birth
>>> "atrocities" (his word).
>>>
>>> Being a PhD-editor-in-chief of a MEDICAL jourrnal who corroborated our
>>> info with MEDICAL physicians, he is a far more credible reporter of
>>> these MEDICAL standard-of-practice child abuse crimes.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: dyoung@...
>>> To: Todd Gastaldo
>>> Cc: PearblossomInc@...
>>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:07 AM
>>> Subject: Yes, r u both doing a requested follow up, of the facts
>>> shared. Read the letter, how long ago I had reported child endangering
>>> by falseprotocols.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Todd,
>>> See if they will state, "Yes," Donna Young advised us of no consent of
>>> being put in harm's way ----- Original Message ----- From:
>> dyoung@... To: Todd Gastaldo Cc: PearblossomInc@... Sent:
>> Monday, December 03, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: I don't recall those words,
>> suffered long and hard..not you, theone with patience, suffers...send an
>> unedited paragraph, please.
>> Not likely. Donna "HE DESERVED TO BE CENSORED...I HOPE HE
>> SUFFERED LONG AND HARD" - HERE'S THE
>> CONTEXT...
>>
>> Comments interspersed below #####
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: dyoung@...
>> To: pearblossominc@...
>> Cc: tgastaldo@...
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:11 AM
>> Subject: Re:I'm being taken out of context...maybe Gary, too. Copy
>> andpaste,
>> my exact words, Todd...Just passing on the latest e-mail I receivedfrom
>> Todd...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: dyoung@...
>> To: pearblossominc@...
>> Cc: tgastaldo@...
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: chiro list was sent for lesson on patience..of
>> communication.
>>
>>
>> Gary,
>>
>> all emails were not sent a copy to Todd, as being malicious, but as an
>> example, male and females can communicate, granted with effort, to
>> He
>> He deserved to
>> be censored, as he is capable of communicating in a professional manner,
>> He would be held in contempt
>> of court, if he was told to stop bad language, and put down, and did not
>> do
>> So I hope he suffered long and
>> hard.....of the many emails, eh.
>>
>> I think we have a great brochure and questions and answers,
>> that hopefully may lead to criminal actions, if the doctors do not pay
>> attention and stop harvesting abies, or wasting their blood.....whatever
>> reason, or for doing a time convenience, get the birth over
>> with.....regardless if their learned methods of care, put another in
>> harm's
>> way.
>>
>> Quoting pearblossominc@...:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Donna,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The purpose of our brochure is to let patients know the harm caused
>>> by instant, immediate, or early cord clamping.? I think we have
>>> thoroughly accomplished this purpose.? With this knowledge, the
>>> birthing mother must take the lead and let healthcare providers know
>>> that the cord is not to be clamped and cut, or when the cord is to
>>> be clamped and cut.
>>>
>>> If the doctor does this against the mother's will, this is cause for
>>> legal action.
>>>
>>> Hope you are getting much satisfaction through your e-mails to the
>>> chiro-list.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>> <>:
>>
>>> MS. YOUNG'S ONGOING FALSEHOOD - BABIES BE DAMNED
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: dyoung@...
>>> To: pearblossominc@...
>>> Cc: tgastaldo@...
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:39 AM
>>> Subject: Patience is a virtue. But, You may have an attitude, or
>>> aredefensive...of Your friend, the judge/lawyer, did not give
>>> confirmation ofhis/her opinions. Why not.
>>>
>>>
>>> Evidence please, and thank you....not innuendo, that is what
>>> Todd had been using, judgment before the facts.
>>>
>>> I stated facts THEN made a judgement BASED on what was
>>> For example, I stated that Gary Goldman, PhD
>>> indirectly promoted the child-abuse-perpetuating crime of failure to
>>> report suspected child abuse - calling it "ludicrous" to report
>>> I also stated that former chiro-listowner Kevin
>>> McGann, DC also indirectly promoted the child-abuse-perpetuating crime
>>> of failure to report child abuse - also calling it "ludicrous" to
>>> I made the (correct) judgement:
>>> Reporting suspected child abuse is not "ludicrous" - it is the LAW.
>>>
>>> "He deserved to be censored...I
>>> hope he suffered long and hard..."
>>>
>>> #### Sigh...
>>>
>>> #### I SAY AGAIN...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your Canadian case is important.
>>>>
>>>> Let us focus on it.
>>>>
>>>> Have you reported yet to proper BC authorities?
>>>>
>>>> You emailed the ministry and telephoned both 911 and 310.1234?
>>>>
>>>> Did you get the name/identifier of each person with whom you spoke as I
>>>> advised?
>>>>
>>>> If not, report again and get the name/identifier of each person with
>>>> whom you speak.
>>>>
>>>> I will follow-up if you get telephone numbers (with area code) that I
>>>> can call from the US.
>>>>
>>>> I will memorialize the details of my telephone follow-up - I will give
>>>> names/identifiers - cc'ing the Ministry and archiving my post in
>>>> Chiro-list 3.
>>>>
>>>> I urge you to publicly state that Gary S. Goldman, PhD corroborated
>> our
>>>> info with physicians and reported suspected child abuse birth
>>>> "atrocities" (his word).
>>>>
>>>> Being a PhD-editor-in-chief of a MEDICAL jourrnal who corroborated our
>>>> info with MEDICAL physicians, he is a far more credible reporter of
>>>> these MEDICAL standard-of-practice child abuse crimes.
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: dyoung@...
>>>> To: Todd Gastaldo
>>>> Cc: PearblossomInc@...
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Yes, r u both doing a requested follow up, of the facts
>>>> shared. Read the letter, how long ago I had reported child endangering
>>>> by falseprotocols.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Todd,
>>>> See if they will state, "Yes," Donna Young advised us of no consent of
>>>> being put in harm's way
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting pearblossominc@...:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Donna,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of our brochure is to let patients know the harm caused
>>>> by instant, immediate, or early cord clamping.? I think we have
>>>> thoroughly accomplished this purpose.? With this knowledge, the
>>>> birthing mother must take the lead and let healthcare providers know
>>>> that the cord is not to be clamped and cut, or when the cord is to
>>>> be clamped and cut.
>>>>
>>>> If the doctor does this against the mother's will, this is cause for
>>>> legal action.
>>>>
>>>> Hope you are getting much satisfaction through your e-mails to the
>>>> chiro-list.
>>>
>>> #### Dr. Goldman, I don't think Ms. Young has ever sent emails to
>>> Censor McGann is gone.
>>> All e-mailers - except spammers - will be able to send emails to
>>> chiro-list again.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Gary
>>>>




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