----- Original Message -----

From: mrtudo1955

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:57 PM

Subject: [chelationtherapy] Chelation Forum-Moderators Needed-Chelation Doctor Needed-Dr Coy!!

 

I started this group mainly as an online "diary" to track my own progress. I take chelation seriously. If you'd like to know more about my experiences, go to the beginning of the forum and you can read all you like about me as I wrote it all down.

The fact this forum is not getting the type of activity that some forums get makes no difference to me. That said, I will not allow the type of spam we've seen and I've deleted the poster as well as banned them. This forum is not for pitching the people here with nonsense products, it's also not for fun and games. In my case I went to Dr Coy's office for chelation because I was going to die. With Dr Coy's help, the help of my loving Wife and the major changes I've made in my life, I'm not only alive but in better health than I was in my 40's. (I'm in my mid 50's now ) That's no bull.

If someone on this forum thinks they can help market this forum and reach out to people who have heart and vascular disease who would obviously benefit from EDTA Chelation therapy, and have the time to monitor the activity, send me a message and I'll add you as a moderator and eventually group owner. Lord knows there are many many people who need this help in their lives and I just do not have the time to market this. My Wife and I own a business and already work on average 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. The 7th day is usually spent taking care of our home.

We are also in the process of buying another house although we don't know where yet. We found a great place on Merrit Island but cannot find a Chelation MD anywhere near it. If anyone knows of a chelation doc within 50 miles of Merritt Island or zip code 32953, PLEASE let me know. We would like to buy that house.

Dr Coy, I've been planning on calling you and I had your cell phone number but I can't find it! Would you please send me an email with your phone number? I would really like to talk with you.

I've been seeing Dr Rebecca Roberts in Sarasota for nearly a year now. She's an excellent medical doctor. If anyone here wants a real Doctor for chelation, look her up. I've found 3 great Doctors. Dr Coy who is in "The Villages" in central Fla, Dr Roberts in Sarasota, and Dr John Wilson in Asheville NC.

I wish you all the best of health

Tom
Southwest Fla

I started this group mainly as an online "diary" to track my own progress. I
take chelation seriously. If you'd like to know more about my experiences, go to
the beginning of the forum and you can read all you like about me as I wrote it
all down.

The fact this forum is not getting the type of activity that some forums get
makes no difference to me. That said, I will not allow the type of spam we've
seen and I've deleted the poster as well as banned them. This forum is not for
pitching the people here with nonsense products, it's also not for fun and
games. In my case I went to Dr Coy's office for chelation because I was going to
die. With Dr Coy's help, the help of my loving Wife and the major changes I've
made in my life, I'm not only alive but in better health than I was in my 40's.
(I'm in my mid 50's now ) That's no bull.

If someone on this forum thinks they can help market this forum and reach out to
people who have heart and vascular disease who would obviously benefit from EDTA
Chelation therapy, and have the time to monitor the activity, send me a message
and I'll add you as a moderator and eventually group owner. Lord knows there are
many many people who need this help in their lives and I just do not have the
time to market this. My Wife and I own a business and already work on average 12
hours a day, 6 days a week. The 7th day is usually spent taking care of our
home.

We are also in the process of buying another house although we don't know where
yet. We found a great place on Merrit Island but cannot find a Chelation MD
anywhere near it. If anyone knows of a chelation doc within 50 miles of Merritt
Island or zip code 32953, PLEASE let me know. We would like to buy that house.

Dr Coy, I've been planning on calling you and I had your cell phone number but I
can't find it! Would you please send me an email with your phone number? I would
really like to talk with you.

I've been seeing Dr Rebecca Roberts in Sarasota for nearly a year now. She's an
excellent medical doctor. If anyone here wants a real Doctor for chelation, look
her up. I've found 3 great Doctors. Dr Coy who is in "The Villages" in central
Fla, Dr Roberts in Sarasota, and Dr John Wilson in Asheville NC.

I wish you all the best of health

Tom
Southwest Fla

hi,

i take it as an anti aging agent after having read a book about anti aging. but
i also read that it can deplete your minerals and vitamins.
after 5 days of taking 1 capsule a day i had two nights of quite severe cramps
in my lower legs. i take it as a sign that my magnesium went down from the EDTA
so i stopped it and used some extra trans dermal magnesium chloride. the next
night no cramps!
i am trying to figure out a good schedule for the use of EDTA since i cannot
have much magnesium orally.

concerning the doctor in louisiana. i live in the netherlands and i like to do
things myself.

marja

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, Mr Tudo <mrtudo1955@...> wrote:
>
> Why are you taking oral EDTA chelation?
>  
> Tom
>
> --- On Sun, 8/16/09, zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: zahavi <zahavi100@...>
> Subject: [chelationtherapy] Oral EDTA
> To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 5:13 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> hi all,
>
> i am new to this group and have just started on oral EDTA.
> does anybody have experience with this way of EDTA use?
>
> marja
>

hi all,

i am new to this group and have just started on oral EDTA.
does anybody have experience with this way of EDTA use?

marja

And he's right again! He should be president.

Healthcare Is "Not a Right" and Obama's Plan Will Cost Way Beyond $1T, Ron Paul
Says

Posted Jul 16, 2009 07:36am EDT by Peter Gorenstein in Healthcare Information,
Newsmakers
Related: ^dji, ^GSPC, pph, jnj, mrk, pfe, unh
Healthcare legislation is quickly picking up momentum in Washington.  Three
separate committees in the House of Representatives are hard at work hammering
out details of a bill.  Votes are planned today in the Education and Labor and
Ways and Means committees on a plan that majority House Democrats presented this
week.  The legislation seeks to provide coverage to nearly all Americans by
subsidizing the poor and penalizing individuals and employers who don't purchase
health insurance.

Meanwhile, the Senate Health committee on Wednesday approved its own version of
a bill.  Their plan sets up a government-run insurance system to compete with
private insurers, and like the House, requires many employers to provide
insurance for their workers or face penalties and requires individuals to
purchase their own insurance.

Each proposal carries an estimated price tag of about $1 Trillion over the next
decade. And that figure will probably balloon says Rep. Ron Paul. "They've never
been right on projections of medical programs," referring to his colleagues in
Congress, "they're always off by 100%, 200%. It always costs a lot more."
  Link:
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/281590/Healthcare-Is-%22Not-a-Right\
%22-and-Obama's-Plan-Will-Cost-Way-Beyond-1T-Ron-Paul-Says?tickers=%5Edji,%5EGSP\
C,pph,jnj,mrk,pfe,unh

New Evidence: Exercise Helps Heart Disease, Increases Survival Better than
Angioplasty

Saturday, July 11, 2009 by: S. L. Baker, features writer
Key concepts: Disease, Heart disease and Angioplasty

(NaturalNews) At the European Association of Cardiovascular Prevention and
Rehabilitation meeting recently held in Barcelona, Spain, new heart research was
presented that shows one treatment in particular can provide remarkable help for
patients with certain forms of serious heart disease. It's not a new drug or
surgical procedure. Instead, it's a natural therapy -- plain old-fashioned
regular exercise.

In fact, in several studies just presented at the meeting, exercise reduced the
markers of heart disease in patients following coronary artery bypass surgery
(CABG). What's more, it improved indications of disease in people with heart
failure, a condition usually thought to be incurable and often just treated with
symptom-relieving drugs. But the news that's perhaps most likely to make some
interventional cardiologists' hearts skip a beat or two was the evidence
presented that showed that exercise improved cardiac event-free survival in
coronary patients better than angioplasty with stents.
Also called percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI), angioplasty is commonly
used to help people with coronary artery disease whose arteries are narrowed and
even blocked by a build-up of sticky plaque. By threading a thin tube through a
blood vessel in the arm or groin, interventional cardiologists perform
angioplasty to restore blood flood through a clogged artery. A tiny balloon at
the end of the tube is inflated when it reaches the exact spot of blockage. That
pushes the plaque outward against the walls of the artery, restoring blood flow.
A small metal device called a stent is also carried by the tube and deployed at
the site of the blockage in order to prop open the artery.

This approach to treating heart disease is a huge business. A report in
Bloomberg News last fall noted that about 800,000 angioplasties are performed
each year in the U.S. at a cost of about $10 billion annually. And, although
many cardiologists consider angioplasty to be the "gold standard" of care in
most types of acute coronary events such as heart attack, the procedure's long
term benefits have been questioned by many doctors. In addition, the role of
angioplasty in treating other kinds of coronary disease, like angina, isn't
clear.

To help shed light on this issue, researchers at the University of Leipzig in
Germany conducted a study to compare the event-free survival rate in 101 stable
angina patients. Research subjects with the condition were divided randomly into
two groups. Each group was treated with either a regular exercise program or
with angioplasty.

The results, just presented at the European Association of Cardiovascular
Prevention and Rehabilitation meeting, showed that after five years of
follow-up, the study participants who went through exercise training had a
better event-free survival rate than those treated with stent angioplasty. In
the exercise group, 63 percent of patients had survived, free of cardiac events.
However, only 40 percent in the angioplasty group had survived without cardiac
problems (which included heart attack, stroke and death).

Two other studies released at the Barcelona conference also back up the idea
that exercise can often help even patients with very serious heart problems.
Research by Dr. Tomasz Mikulski and colleagues from the Medical Research Centre
in Warsaw, Poland, showed that aerobic training using an exercise bike not only
improved the physical fitness of cardiac patients following bypass surgery, but
also reduced their cholesterol levels and markers of inflammation (which are
associated with heart disease).

Dr. Marcus Sandri from the University of Leipzig presented data showing that a
moderate exercise program daily for four weeks improved the function of
endothelial cells in patients with heart failure. This is important because
endothelial cells, which line the circulatory system, are associated with the
progression of heart disease and heart failure when they don't function
properly.

No improvement was noted in the control group of heart failure patients who did
not exercise. Dr Sandri noted in a statement to the media that the beneficial
effect of exercise was seen as much in older subjects as in younger. "The
effects of exercise were not diminished in our older heart failure patients
which suggests that exercise as a treatment might be just as effective in older
patients as younger," he explained.

http://www.naturalnews.com/026596_disease_heart_disease_angioplasty.html

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/angioplasty.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601202&sid=animWucsIsEQ&refer=healthcar\
e

Chelation trial for heart disease under fire
IT'S a trial of a controversial alternative therapy for heart
disease, and it involves some physicians with criminal records and
others who have been disciplined by state medical boards. So why is
the world's leading biomedical research agency backing it?

That's the question being asked by critics of a $30 million study
funded by the US National Institutes of Health (NIH), who want the
trial stopped.

The row involves chelation therapy, generally used to remove toxic
heavy metals from the body. Some alternative practitioners claim that
chelation can also dissolve the plaques that can form in arteries and
increase the risk of heart attacks. In the NIH trial, the chelating
drug ethylenediamine tetraacetate (EDTA) is being tested for its
ability to do this in people with heart disease.

Click the link to read the continuation of this nonsense:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926644.100-chelation-trial-
for-heart-disease-under-fire.html

Yes, of course I replied to it.

By the way, I'm just at 4 Miles Per Hour in my walking and I can do a
few miles at this pace. I start sweating at about .6 of a mile. It's
wonderful. I'm walking rapidly enough to work out my heart which
correct me if I am wrong is a good thing. I had the exact symptoms as
a family member ( who also has diabetes ) by the way who chose to go
with the so called main stream medical "profession". He's on a
variety of medicines. He now is below 2 miles per hour and cannot
even walk a mile at that rate and was told he needs a stent in his
left common illiac. No way to do a stress test as he can't walk
enough to do so. Has to do it all chemically. I was MUCH MUCH WORSE
than that ( go to where it says messages, click on it and go to the
very beginning of this forum where I post my complete story) when I
started with this chelation therapy and even when I told this to the
asshole who runs that quack website, was told that my improvement had
nothing to do with chelation and that the doctor administering it was
a fraud.

The fraud is he, and the doctors who told me I needed all the
surgeries that I thankfully never permitted to happen.

Thank you Doctor Coy for saving my life. Now I thank Dr Roberts who
is the doctor who is continuing my monthly maintenence with chelation
and who has become my regular MD.

To those of you who for whatever reason do not post, but have read
this forum ( Yes I know this ), please, I beg of you, please change
your life. LIFE. Stop the cigarettes. It's not hard. Excuse me, it's
hard for a week. Then it's gone. If those around you insist on
smoking around you after you've quit, then obviously they don't give
a crap about you and you should avoid them. Stop eating the garbage.
Go and see a Doctor who is commited to saving your life. Like Doctor
Coy and Doctor Roberts. Change your diet. Excercise. It's painful in
the beginning I know. Nobody knows this more than I do. I do not know
if you will make the kind of improvements I've made but what do you
have to lose?

And those of you who don't have a hundred bucks a week for 30 weeks.
Please, stop smoking, that's a sawbuck a day you can save right
there. Sell something. Do what you have to do but get the money and
get it done. You'll be so much happier if you do.

Life is such a gift.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all

Tom
Southwest Floriduh

----- Original Message -----

From: mrtudo1955

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:44 PM

Subject: [chelationtherapy] The Medical-Industrial Complex-Lew Rockwell interviews Dr. John McDougall

What some of us know, what some suspect, what everyone should know.
This is an excellent interview with information about how we are
getting ripped off by the medical establishment with heart stents,
angioplasty's, bypass surgery and statin drugs.

Here's the podcast link:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2008-12-
17_086_the_medical_industrial_complex.mp3

Happy Holidays
Tom

Here's to the wine that clears your arteries

Australian doctor ups the antioxidants for a tipple that's good for
blood vessels

By Kathy Marks in Sydney
Tuesday, 16 December 2008
It sounds too good to be true, but an Australian doctor insists he
has created the world's healthiest tipple: a wine that cleans the
arteries as you drink it, reducing the risk of heart attack.


Philip Norrie, who owns a vineyard in New South Wales, is producing
wines with up to 100 times the antioxidant content of a standard
drop. He calls them "vascular pipe-cleaners", saying the antioxidant
they contain – resveratrol, which occurs naturally in grapes – helps
to keep blood vessels free of fatty deposits.

Dr Norrie said yesterday that while the positive effects of moderate
wine consumption had long been documented, "the inclusion of such
large quantities of this beneficial antioxidant is very good news for
wine drinkers". He added: "What we've been able to do is boost the
amount of resveratrol in wine – and you won't even know it's there.
You're effectively clearing your arteries while you drink."


LINK TO STORY: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-
drink/news/heres-to-the-wine-that-clears-your-arteries-1128200.html

What some of us know, what some suspect, what everyone should know.
This is an excellent interview with information about how we are
getting ripped off by the medical establishment with heart stents,
angioplasty's, bypass surgery and statin drugs.

Here's the podcast link:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2008-12-
17_086_the_medical_industrial_complex.mp3

Happy Holidays
Tom

I don't know if anyone here as looked at or tried PlaqueX in addition to
EDTA IV.  I did 25 IVs of this because it looked promising and not
unsafe.  I asked my local regular doctor that does IV therapy in his
clinic and he had information on the product and ordered it for my use.
   Sometimes I did EDTA IV and PlaqueX IV therapy back to back during the
course of about 6 hours while at other times I would just come in for
either one or the other.

http://www.alternative-medicine-info.com/alternative-medicine/Plaquex-Therapy/Pl\
aquex-Therapy.html
http://www.plaquex.ch/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=PLAQUEX&btnG=Search


--

Steve - dudescholar4@...

Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

"If a thousand old beliefs were ruined on our march
to truth we must still march on." --Stopford Brooke

Thank G-d for real live then Mr Gator:)

Rgrds
Mr Tudo


--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, coygators@... wrote:
>
> Fortunately, Mr. Tudo, real life gives better results  than
propaganda.
>
>
> In a message dated 11/9/2008 8:59:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> mrtudo1955@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Thus sayeth jama. Read on and become enlightened "oye" ye people
who
> refuse to accept big pharma into your lives and be advised that
> vitamins may be even more evil and dangerous that........vitamins
may b
> therapy! Maybe even as dangerous as.......as.therapy! therapy!
Maybe even
> truly frightening.truly frightening.<WBR>.......than Chiropractors
>
> Studies: Vitamin pills don't prevent heart disease
> By MARILYNN  MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writer Marilynn Marchione, Ap
> Medical Writer â€" Sun  Nov 9, 1:17 pm ETNEW ORLEANS â€"
>
> Vitamins C and E â€" pills taken by  millions of Americans â€" do
nothing
> to prevent heart disease in men, one of  the largest and longest
> studies of these supplements has  found.
>
> Vitamin E even appeared to raise the risk of bleeding strokes, a
> danger seen in at least one earlier study.
>
> Besides questioning  whether vitamins help, "we have to worry about
> potential harm," said  Barbara Howard, a nutrition scientist at
> MedStar Research Institute of  Hyattsville, Md.
>
> She has no role in the research but reviewed and  discussed it
Sunday
> at an American Heart Association conference. Results  also were
> published online by the Journal of the American Medical
Association.
>
> About 12 percent of Americans take supplements of C and E  despite
> growing evidence that these antioxidants do not prevent heart
disease
> and may even be harmful.
>
> Male smokers taking vitamin E had  a higher rate of bleeding
strokes
> in a previous study, and several others  found no benefit for heart
> health.
>
> As for vitamin C, some research  suggests it may aid cancer, not
fight
> it. A previous study in women at  high risk of heart problems found
it
> did not prevent heart  attacks.
>
> Few long-term studies have been done. The new one is the
Physicians
> Health Study, led by Drs. Howard Sesso and J. Michael Gaziano  of
> Harvard-affiliated Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston.
>
> It  involved 14,641 male doctors, 50 or older, including 5 percent
who
> had  heart disease at the time the study started in 1997. They were
> put into  four groups and given either vitamin E, vitamin C, both,
or
> dummy pills.  The dose of E was 400 international units every other
> day; C was 500  milligrams daily.
>
> After an average of eight years, no difference was  seen in the
rates
> of heart attack, stroke or heart-related deaths among  the groups.
>
> However, 39 men taking E suffered bleeding strokes versus  only 23
of
> the others, which works out to a 74 percent greater risk for
vitamin-
> takers.
>
> The study was funded by the National Institutes of  Health and
several
> vitamin makers. Results were so clear that they would  be unlikely
to
> change if the study were done in women, minorities, or with
different
> formulations of the vitamins, Howard said.
>
> "In these hard  economic times, maybe we can save some money by not
> buying these  supplements,buying thes
>
> A second study found that vitamins B-12  and B-9 (folic acid) did
not
> prevent heart disease either, supporting the  results of previous
> trials. That study involved more than 12,000 heart  attack
survivors
> and was led by Dr. Jane Armitage of the University of  Oxford in
> England.
>
> ___
>
> On the Net:
>
> JAMA: _http://jama.http://jahttp_ (http://jama.ama-assn.org/)
>
> Heart  meeting: _http://www.americanhttp://www_
> (http://www.americanheart.org/)
>
> P.S.  Must be that Dr's Coy, Wilson, Roberts all waved hands over
me
> and  suddenly I arose and walked again. Chelation, vitamins, change
in
> lifestyle, eating habits. quit smoking etc had nothing to do with
it.
>
>
>
>
> **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and
all other
> Holiday needs. Search Now.
> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?
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> -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)
>

Thus sayeth jama. Read on and become enlightened "oye" ye people who
refuse to accept big pharma into your lives and be advised that
vitamins may be even more evil and dangerous that........chelation
therapy! Maybe even as dangerous as.......as...........oh my this is
truly frightening........than Chiropractors! ( You're next! ):

Studies: Vitamin pills don't prevent heart disease
By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writer Marilynn Marchione, Ap
Medical Writer – Sun Nov 9, 1:17 pm ETNEW ORLEANS –


Vitamins C and E — pills taken by millions of Americans — do nothing
to prevent heart disease in men, one of the largest and longest
studies of these supplements has found.

Vitamin E even appeared to raise the risk of bleeding strokes, a
danger seen in at least one earlier study.

Besides questioning whether vitamins help, "we have to worry about
potential harm," said Barbara Howard, a nutrition scientist at
MedStar Research Institute of Hyattsville, Md.

She has no role in the research but reviewed and discussed it Sunday
at an American Heart Association conference. Results also were
published online by the Journal of the American Medical Association.

About 12 percent of Americans take supplements of C and E despite
growing evidence that these antioxidants do not prevent heart disease
and may even be harmful.

Male smokers taking vitamin E had a higher rate of bleeding strokes
in a previous study, and several others found no benefit for heart
health.

As for vitamin C, some research suggests it may aid cancer, not fight
it. A previous study in women at high risk of heart problems found it
did not prevent heart attacks.

Few long-term studies have been done. The new one is the Physicians
Health Study, led by Drs. Howard Sesso and J. Michael Gaziano of
Harvard-affiliated Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston.

It involved 14,641 male doctors, 50 or older, including 5 percent who
had heart disease at the time the study started in 1997. They were
put into four groups and given either vitamin E, vitamin C, both, or
dummy pills. The dose of E was 400 international units every other
day; C was 500 milligrams daily.

After an average of eight years, no difference was seen in the rates
of heart attack, stroke or heart-related deaths among the groups.

However, 39 men taking E suffered bleeding strokes versus only 23 of
the others, which works out to a 74 percent greater risk for vitamin-
takers.

The study was funded by the National Institutes of Health and several
vitamin makers. Results were so clear that they would be unlikely to
change if the study were done in women, minorities, or with different
formulations of the vitamins, Howard said.

"In these hard economic times, maybe we can save some money by not
buying these supplements," she said.

A second study found that vitamins B-12 and B-9 (folic acid) did not
prevent heart disease either, supporting the results of previous
trials. That study involved more than 12,000 heart attack survivors
and was led by Dr. Jane Armitage of the University of Oxford in
England.

___

On the Net:

JAMA: http://jama.ama-assn.org/

Heart meeting: http://www.americanheart.org/


P.S. Must be that Dr's Coy, Wilson, Roberts all waved hands over me
and suddenly I arose and walked again. Chelation, vitamins, change in
lifestyle, eating habits. quit smoking etc had nothing to do with it.

What can we do to make sure that we retain our freedom of choice
when it comes to health care? It would be easy for congress to pass
a bill regarding alternative health care while all eyes are on the
Wall Street mess. If I don't have my chelation treatments I won't be
needing my retirement investments.

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "mrtudo1955"
<mrtudo1955@...> wrote:
>
> They are going to limit our health choices people. No doubt about
it.
>
> Here's some of the responses:
>
> Jim
> Cleveland, OH  Reply »
> |Report Abuse |#1 12 hrs ago
> Doctors profitting from a study?
> This is scary stuff and undermines the legitimacy of ALL studies,
> good or bad. I hope the guinea pigs profit from fat lawsuits down
the
> road for being used in this manner.
>
>
> Chelation Fan
> Delray Beach, FL  Reply »
> |Report Abuse |#2 11 hrs ago
> This article doesn't state that chelation therapy is often used on
> patients who are being sent to hospice, and instead of dying they
> recover, apparently due the remarkable power of "the placebo
effect".
> Chelation therapy is used on race horses who seem to then run
faster;
> apparently the race horses also experience a "placebo effect".
Most
> of the physicians who administer this therapy actually use it on
> themselves (a time consuming procedure which also reduces their
> profits). Certain conventional cardiologists even send themselves,
> their family members, and favorite friends and patients to
chelation
> clinics, apparently knowing that heart bypass, carotid
endarectomies,
> and angioplasty/stents don't "fix" anything long term (a study
last
> month reported stents provided no benefit other than relief of
chest
> pain for at most 3 years; those not getting the stents fared just
as
> well after 3 years). In fact, many of the patients at a chelation
> clinic have had bypasses and stents already, so they have already
> tried treating a atherosclerosis, a disease which affects the
entire
> body, with one little patch at a time, kind of like putting
hundreds
> of patches on a worn out old tire.
> The Bush administration is throwing alternative medicine under the
> bus in its waning hours while the attention is on the attempt to
> steal $700B from the taxpayers in the aftermath of a
failed "economic
> recovery from 9/11" that involved giving everyone who could fog a
> mirror a mortgage. It is important to remember as recently as
Sept.
> 10, 2001, Congress was holding hearings on vitamins which were
then
> categorized as "worthless"; since that time high doses of Vitamin
C
> and a few others have been accepted into the medical mainstream
and
> are now being routinely given in hospitals and nursing homes. Yet
ten
> years ago, high doses of Vitamin C were considered in the same
> category as chelation therapy, and Donna Shalala was dispatched by
> Bill Clinton to work with Big Pharma in Germany to try to outlaw
the
> non-prescription sale of high dose Vitamin C using the UN World
> Health Organization as a vehicle.
>
>
> melamine story
> Bangkok, Thailand  Reply »
> |Report Abuse |#3 9 hrs ago
> I am only asking wheres the China melamine story?I have the Six
Star
> Muscle protein powder from Walmart which says made in the USA from
> international and domestic ingredients.Are they having recalls?
>
>
>
> Tudo
>
> Joined: Dec 19, 2006
> Comments: 283
> Port Charlotte, FL  Reply »
> |Report Abuse |#4 7 hrs ago
> I have personally had more than 75 chelation sessions after a
failed
> bypass surgery at charlotte regional medical center in punta gorda
in
> 2005. They also wanted to slice and dice me for a blocked femoral
> artery, blocked common illiac and also a blocked right carotid.
> After 30 chelation treatments, I returned for testing and was told
I
> no longer needed surgery on the carotids. Far as the blocked
femoral
> and illiac. Previously the pain from these blockages stopped me
from
> being able to walk only 1/10 of a mile. I simply could nhot do it.
> After 15 chelation sessions I walked a mile. That was in 2005. I
now
> speed walk nearly 4MPH at a level 3 incline on the treadmill for 2-
3
> miles. Much further if I walk slower and I have since done 8
miles,
> nonstop. I had to pee which made me return home. I became like
forest
> gump in the neighborhood.
> Chelation Therapy has worked miracles for me.
> For more information I even started a yahoo group on the subject.
> Please visit: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelatio...
>

From: mrtudo1955

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:39 PM

Subject: [chelationtherapy] Heart disease study scrutinized

Researchers stop enrolling participants
Heart disease study scrutinized

By Marilynn Marchione | The Associated Press
September 26, 2008

Federal officials are investigating whether participants in the
government's biggest-ever alternative medicine study were fully
informed of the risks and are being adequately protected, The
Associated Press has learned.

More than 1,500 heart attack survivors are involved in the research,
which tests a controversial treatment called chelation. It is mainly
used to treat lead poisoning.

More than two people have died, although the Miami doctor leading the
study said the deaths were not a direct result of the treatments. He
said he doesn't know exactly how many deaths have occurred.

He also acknowledged that some doctors who had been involved in the
study have been disciplined by state boards or have criminal records
and have been asked to drop out.

"We think we have a safe and ethical trial and we're protecting our
patients," said the leader, Dr. Gervasio Lamas of the University of
Miami.

Federal officials confirmed their investigation of the $30 million
study on Thursday. Those directing the research, conducted at 100
sites around the United States and Canada, voluntarily stopped
enrolling patients earlier this month, after the investigation was
launched.

The research was designed to test very high doses of vitamin and
mineral supplements and chelation, which has not been proved
effective for heart disease. Chelation (pronounced kee-LAY-shun)
involves intravenous doses of a drug, in this case disodium EDTA,
that proponents claim will bind to calcium built up in artery walls
and help flush it from the body.

The heart disease study was based on misrepresentations about safety
and effectiveness and "should never have been approved," said Dr.
Kimball Atwood, an anesthesiologist in suburban Boston and an
assistant clinical professor at Tufts University.

He and several others sent a complaint about the heart study to the
federal research protection agency, and recently published a lengthy
report detailing alleged problems.

"The consent form is inadequate. It doesn't tell people, for example,
that people have died from this drug," said a report co-author, Liz
Woeckner. She is president of Citizens for Responsible Care and
Research, or CIRCARE, a nonprofit group focused on research safety.

More than half of the doctors running the study make money by selling
chelation treatments — a conflict of interest, critics say.

Link: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/health/sfl-
flaheart0926sbsep26,0,6618308.story

I'll print the 4 responses in the next post, one of which is mine
which followed this "news"

They are going to limit our health choices people. No doubt about it.

Here's some of the responses:

Jim
Cleveland, OH  Reply »
|Report Abuse |#1 12 hrs ago
Doctors profitting from a study?
This is scary stuff and undermines the legitimacy of ALL studies,
good or bad. I hope the guinea pigs profit from fat lawsuits down the
road for being used in this manner.


Chelation Fan
Delray Beach, FL  Reply »
|Report Abuse |#2 11 hrs ago
This article doesn't state that chelation therapy is often used on
patients who are being sent to hospice, and instead of dying they
recover, apparently due the remarkable power of "the placebo effect".
Chelation therapy is used on race horses who seem to then run faster;
apparently the race horses also experience a "placebo effect". Most
of the physicians who administer this therapy actually use it on
themselves (a time consuming procedure which also reduces their
profits). Certain conventional cardiologists even send themselves,
their family members, and favorite friends and patients to chelation
clinics, apparently knowing that heart bypass, carotid endarectomies,
and angioplasty/stents don't "fix" anything long term (a study last
month reported stents provided no benefit other than relief of chest
pain for at most 3 years; those not getting the stents fared just as
well after 3 years). In fact, many of the patients at a chelation
clinic have had bypasses and stents already, so they have already
tried treating a atherosclerosis, a disease which affects the entire
body, with one little patch at a time, kind of like putting hundreds
of patches on a worn out old tire.
The Bush administration is throwing alternative medicine under the
bus in its waning hours while the attention is on the attempt to
steal $700B from the taxpayers in the aftermath of a failed "economic
recovery from 9/11" that involved giving everyone who could fog a
mirror a mortgage. It is important to remember as recently as Sept.
10, 2001, Congress was holding hearings on vitamins which were then
categorized as "worthless"; since that time high doses of Vitamin C
and a few others have been accepted into the medical mainstream and
are now being routinely given in hospitals and nursing homes. Yet ten
years ago, high doses of Vitamin C were considered in the same
category as chelation therapy, and Donna Shalala was dispatched by
Bill Clinton to work with Big Pharma in Germany to try to outlaw the
non-prescription sale of high dose Vitamin C using the UN World
Health Organization as a vehicle.


melamine story
Bangkok, Thailand  Reply »
|Report Abuse |#3 9 hrs ago
I am only asking wheres the China melamine story?I have the Six Star
Muscle protein powder from Walmart which says made in the USA from
international and domestic ingredients.Are they having recalls?



Tudo

Joined: Dec 19, 2006
Comments: 283
Port Charlotte, FL  Reply »
|Report Abuse |#4 7 hrs ago
I have personally had more than 75 chelation sessions after a failed
bypass surgery at charlotte regional medical center in punta gorda in
2005. They also wanted to slice and dice me for a blocked femoral
artery, blocked common illiac and also a blocked right carotid.
After 30 chelation treatments, I returned for testing and was told I
no longer needed surgery on the carotids. Far as the blocked femoral
and illiac. Previously the pain from these blockages stopped me from
being able to walk only 1/10 of a mile. I simply could nhot do it.
After 15 chelation sessions I walked a mile. That was in 2005. I now
speed walk nearly 4MPH at a level 3 incline on the treadmill for 2-3
miles. Much further if I walk slower and I have since done 8 miles,
nonstop. I had to pee which made me return home. I became like forest
gump in the neighborhood.
Chelation Therapy has worked miracles for me.
For more information I even started a yahoo group on the subject.
Please visit: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelatio...

Researchers stop enrolling participants
Heart disease study scrutinized

By Marilynn Marchione | The Associated Press
September 26, 2008

Federal officials are investigating whether participants in the
government's biggest-ever alternative medicine study were fully
informed of the risks and are being adequately protected, The
Associated Press has learned.

More than 1,500 heart attack survivors are involved in the research,
which tests a controversial treatment called chelation. It is mainly
used to treat lead poisoning.

More than two people have died, although the Miami doctor leading the
study said the deaths were not a direct result of the treatments. He
said he doesn't know exactly how many deaths have occurred.

He also acknowledged that some doctors who had been involved in the
study have been disciplined by state boards or have criminal records
and have been asked to drop out.

"We think we have a safe and ethical trial and we're protecting our
patients," said the leader, Dr. Gervasio Lamas of the University of
Miami.

Federal officials confirmed their investigation of the $30 million
study on Thursday. Those directing the research, conducted at 100
sites around the United States and Canada, voluntarily stopped
enrolling patients earlier this month, after the investigation was
launched.

The research was designed to test very high doses of vitamin and
mineral supplements and chelation, which has not been proved
effective for heart disease. Chelation (pronounced kee-LAY-shun)
involves intravenous doses of a drug, in this case disodium EDTA,
that proponents claim will bind to calcium built up in artery walls
and help flush it from the body.

The heart disease study was based on misrepresentations about safety
and effectiveness and "should never have been approved," said Dr.
Kimball Atwood, an anesthesiologist in suburban Boston and an
assistant clinical professor at Tufts University.

He and several others sent a complaint about the heart study to the
federal research protection agency, and recently published a lengthy
report detailing alleged problems.

"The consent form is inadequate. It doesn't tell people, for example,
that people have died from this drug," said a report co-author, Liz
Woeckner. She is president of Citizens for Responsible Care and
Research, or CIRCARE, a nonprofit group focused on research safety.

More than half of the doctors running the study make money by selling
chelation treatments — a conflict of interest, critics say.

Link: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/health/sfl-
flaheart0926sbsep26,0,6618308.story

I'll print the 4 responses in the next post, one of which is mine
which followed this "news"

Thailand Biotech Company Gets Board of Investment's (BOI) Seal of
Approval for Adult Stem Cells
http://www.thaiwebsites.com/adultstemcell.asp

Stem Cell Therapy in Thailand
http://www.medhunters.com/articles/stemCellTherapyInThailand.html

Do a google search for keywords "stem cells heart Thailand" for large
list of articles about recent and ongoing work.  Replace "Thailand" with
"Turkey" for additional but fewer articles.

I did notice that there was a google ad for www.texasheart.org which was
enrolling patients into a stem heart study.  There was also a google ad
for www.CellMedicine.com which had a news information section that could
be useful as a launching point.

Steve

coygators@... wrote:
>
>
> Thank you, Steve.
>
> I would like to see some science and follw-up and documentation.  Your
> report sounds promising, as does every other therapy before it is
> brought into the light of day.  The well-known story of chelation
> therapy in cardiovascular disease which started with promising research
> only to be suppressed, even now 50 long years later, by competing interests.
>
> Right now "Stem Cells" has rock star status.  But what is it all about
> behind the cameras?
>
> Dr. J
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve <dudescholar4@...>
> To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 2:47 am
> Subject: Re: [chelationtherapy] New source of heart stem cells found: study
>
> Stem cells are having positive results but the procedure is not
> available in the USA except for a very few research studies, and then
> one takes their chances because they might be in the placebo arm of the
> study.
>
> Nevertheless, outside the USA, stem cell procedures are available. I
> know that they available in Turkey and Thailand and most likely India
> and other countries. In Thailand, people are wheeled into the 5 star
> hotel quality hospital and walk out under their own power after the
> procedure and some recuperation. One pays 5-20 percent of the cost of
> equivalent procedures when compared to the USA. It is always cheaper to
> pay to fly to thailand and have work done than to get the same procured
> done in the USA if one doesn't have insurance. If one has a 20% copay,
> it can still be cheaper to fly to Thailand and pay the full cost oneself.
>
> Steve

--

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coygators@... wrote:

Thank you, Steve.

I would like to see some science and follw-up and documentation.  Your report sounds promising, as does every other therapy before it is brought into the light of day.  The well-known story of chelation therapy in cardiovascular disease which started with promising research only to be suppressed, even now 50 long years later, by competing interests.

Right now "Stem Cells" has rock star status.  But what is it all about behind the cameras?

Dr. J


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve <dudescholar4@basicmail.net>
To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 2:47 am
Subject: Re: [chelationtherapy] New source of heart stem cells found: study

Stem cells are having positive results but the procedure is not
available in the USA except for a very few research studies, and then
one takes their chances because they might be in the placebo arm of the
study.

Nevertheless, outside the USA, stem cell procedures are available. I
know that they available in Turkey and Thailand and most likely India
and other countries. In Thailand, people are wheeled into the 5 star
hotel quality hospital and walk out under their own power after the
procedure and some recuperation. One pays 5-20 percent of the cost of
equivalent procedures when compared to the USA. It is always cheaper to
pay to fly to thailand and have work done than to get the same procured
done in the USA if one doesn't have insurance. If one has a 20% copay,
it can still be cheaper to fly to Thailand and pay the full cost oneself.

Steve

coygators@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> It is interesting to me that all the fuss about stem cells sounds a lot
> like the fuss about vaccinations. All hype and little substance, and
> that substance distorted beyond recognition.
>
> Heart muscle will generate if there is adequate blood supply and nothing
> around to poison the process. Chelation therapy, of course, provides
> help in both areas. First, it has multiple effects which improve
> circulation to the whole heart, not just sections; AND it removes
> poisons, like mercury, which is found at autopsy in people who had
> congestive heart failure or cardiomyopathy. With improved circulation
> and reduced poisons (and regular aerobic exercise) we get more heart
> muscle(s).
>
> Still, with all the marketing, the companies who dabble in these schemes
> might be worth investing in for the moment, though I wouldn't bet on it.
>
> Dr. J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mrtudo1955 <mrtudo1955@yahoo.com>
> To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 1:26 am
> Subject: [chelationtherapy] New source of heart stem cells found: study
>
> New source of heart stem cells found: study
> Sun Jun 22, 1:13 PM ET
>
>
> PARIS (AFP) - Researchers in the United States have discovered a new
> group of stem cells that can give rise to heart muscle cells, known
> as cardiomyocytes, according to a study published Sunday.
>
> The stem cells are located in the outermost layer of the heart and
> could one day play a critical role in regenerating injured heart
> tissue, the researchers say.
>
> "In heart failure, you lose cardiomyocytes, so the only way to
> reverse heart failure is to make more of these cells," said William
> Pu, the study's lead researcher and a pediatric cardiologist at
> Children's Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts.
>
> The new findings come on the heels of two earlier breakthroughs.
>
> In 2006 scientists identified another cardiac stem cell -- marked by
> the expression of a gene called Nkx2-5 -- with the potential to
> become either heart muscle or cells lining blood vessels in the
> organ's left-sided chambers.
>
> Gene expression is the process by which information encoded in the
> DNA of a particular gene is transformed into a protein or RNA, which
> plays a key role in protein synthesis.
>
> In parallel, other US researchers discovered a related progenitor
> heart cell -- so-called because of its capacity to generate different
> types of tissue -- that produces the same cell types in the right-
> sided heart chambers.
>
> Pu's study, published online in the journal Nature, shows for the
> first time that new heart stem cells can also be derived from a third
> type of cardiac stell cell, located within the surface of the organ
> and identifiable through its expression of a gene called Wt1.
>
> The results were independently verified by another team of scientists
> at the University of California in San Diego, whose research was
> published in the same issue of Nature.
>
> Pu and colleagues showed that the cells from the heart's outer
> lining, called the epicardium, can not only metamorphose into
> cardiomyocytes but also into smooth muscle cells, endothelial cells,
> which line the interior of blood vessels, and fibroblasts, found in
> connective tissue.
>
> "If you are going to regenerate tissue, you need to regenerate the
> whole tissue, not just the cardiomyocytes," Pu said in a statement.
>
> The discovery of the new stem cells was an accident. In order to
> study the role a different gene in the epicardium, the researchers
> labeled cells in live mouse embryos with red fluorescent protein.
>
> "Unexpectedly, we saw that these epicardial cells were becoming
> cardiomycytes -- it was a lucky observation," said Pu.
>
> The next challenge, he added, is trying to figure out how a
> progenitor stem cell decides to become a certain type of functioning
> cell within the heart, and then how to develop methods to trick the
> stem cells into transforming into the desired tissue.
>
> "We still don't know how we can manipulate these progenitors," he
> said.
>
> Link:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080622/ts_afp/healthdiseaseheartstemcell
> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080622/ts_afp/healthdiseaseheartstemcell>
>
> And
>
> Comedian George Carlin dies of heart failure in Los Angeles at 71
>
> LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Comedian George Carlin, a counter-culture
> hero famed for his routines about drugs and dirty words, died of
> heart failure at a Los Angeles-area hospital on Sunday, a spokesman
> said. He was 71.
> Carlin, who had a history of heart problems, died at St. John's
> Health Center in Santa Monica about 6 p.m. PDT (9 p.m. EDT) after
> being admitted earlier in the afternoon for chest pains, spokesman
> Jeff Abraham told Reuters.
>
> Known for his edgy, provocative material, Carlin achieved status as
> an anti-Establishment icon in the 1970s with stand-up bits full of
> drug references and a routine about seven dirty words you could not
> say on television. A regulatory battle over a radio broadcast of
> his "Filthy Words" routine ultimately reached the U.S. Supreme Court.
>
--

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Stem cells are having positive results but the procedure is not
available in the USA except for a very few research studies, and then
one takes their chances because they might be in the placebo arm of the
study.

Nevertheless, outside the USA, stem cell procedures are available.  I
know that they available in Turkey and Thailand and most likely India
and other countries.  In Thailand, people are wheeled into the 5 star
hotel quality hospital and walk out under their own power after the
procedure and some recuperation.  One pays 5-20 percent of the cost of
equivalent procedures when compared to the USA.  It is always cheaper to
pay to fly to thailand and have work done than to get the same procured
done in the USA if one doesn't have insurance.  If one has a 20% copay,
it can still be cheaper to fly to Thailand and pay the full cost oneself.

Steve

coygators@... wrote:
>
>
> It is interesting to me that all the fuss about stem cells sounds a lot
> like the fuss about vaccinations.  All hype and little substance, and
> that substance distorted beyond recognition.
>
> Heart muscle will generate if there is adequate blood supply and nothing
> around to poison the process.  Chelation therapy, of course, provides
> help in both areas.  First, it has multiple effects which improve
> circulation to the whole heart, not just sections; AND it removes
> poisons, like mercury, which is found at autopsy in people who had
> congestive heart failure or cardiomyopathy.  With improved circulation
> and reduced poisons (and regular aerobic exercise) we get more heart
> muscle(s).
>
> Still, with all the marketing, the companies who dabble in these schemes
> might be worth investing in for the moment, though I wouldn't bet on it.
>
> Dr. J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mrtudo1955 <mrtudo1955@...>
> To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 1:26 am
> Subject: [chelationtherapy] New source of heart stem cells found: study
>
> New source of heart stem cells found: study
> Sun Jun 22, 1:13 PM ET
>
>
> PARIS (AFP) - Researchers in the United States have discovered a new
> group of stem cells that can give rise to heart muscle cells, known
> as cardiomyocytes, according to a study published Sunday.
>
> The stem cells are located in the outermost layer of the heart and
> could one day play a critical role in regenerating injured heart
> tissue, the researchers say.
>
> "In heart failure, you lose cardiomyocytes, so the only way to
> reverse heart failure is to make more of these cells," said William
> Pu, the study's lead researcher and a pediatric cardiologist at
> Children's Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts.
>
> The new findings come on the heels of two earlier breakthroughs.
>
> In 2006 scientists identified another cardiac stem cell -- marked by
> the expression of a gene called Nkx2-5 -- with the potential to
> become either heart muscle or cells lining blood vessels in the
> organ's left-sided chambers.
>
> Gene expression is the process by which information encoded in the
> DNA of a particular gene is transformed into a protein or RNA, which
> plays a key role in protein synthesis.
>
> In parallel, other US researchers discovered a related progenitor
> heart cell -- so-called because of its capacity to generate different
> types of tissue -- that produces the same cell types in the right-
> sided heart chambers.
>
> Pu's study, published online in the journal Nature, shows for the
> first time that new heart stem cells can also be derived from a third
> type of cardiac stell cell, located within the surface of the organ
> and identifiable through its expression of a gene called Wt1.
>
> The results were independently verified by another team of scientists
> at the University of California in San Diego, whose research was
> published in the same issue of Nature.
>
> Pu and colleagues showed that the cells from the heart's outer
> lining, called the epicardium, can not only metamorphose into
> cardiomyocytes but also into smooth muscle cells, endothelial cells,
> which line the interior of blood vessels, and fibroblasts, found in
> connective tissue.
>
> "If you are going to regenerate tissue, you need to regenerate the
> whole tissue, not just the cardiomyocytes," Pu said in a statement.
>
> The discovery of the new stem cells was an accident. In order to
> study the role a different gene in the epicardium, the researchers
> labeled cells in live mouse embryos with red fluorescent protein.
>
> "Unexpectedly, we saw that these epicardial cells were becoming
> cardiomycytes -- it was a lucky observation," said Pu.
>
> The next challenge, he added, is trying to figure out how a
> progenitor stem cell decides to become a certain type of functioning
> cell within the heart, and then how to develop methods to trick the
> stem cells into transforming into the desired tissue.
>
> "We still don't know how we can manipulate these progenitors," he
> said.
>
> Link:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080622/ts_afp/healthdiseaseheartstemcell
> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080622/ts_afp/healthdiseaseheartstemcell>
>
> And
>
> Comedian George Carlin dies of heart failure in Los Angeles at 71
>
> LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Comedian George Carlin, a counter-culture
> hero famed for his routines about drugs and dirty words, died of
> heart failure at a Los Angeles-area hospital on Sunday, a spokesman
> said. He was 71.
> Carlin, who had a history of heart problems, died at St. John's
> Health Center in Santa Monica about 6 p.m. PDT (9 p.m. EDT) after
> being admitted earlier in the afternoon for chest pains, spokesman
> Jeff Abraham told Reuters.
>
> Known for his edgy, provocative material, Carlin achieved status as
> an anti-Establishment icon in the 1970s with stand-up bits full of
> drug references and a routine about seven dirty words you could not
> say on television. A regulatory battle over a radio broadcast of
> his "Filthy Words" routine ultimately reached the U.S. Supreme Court.
>
--

Steve - dudescholar4@...

Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

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to truth we must still march on." --Stopford Brooke

New source of heart stem cells found: study
Sun Jun 22, 1:13 PM ET



PARIS (AFP) - Researchers in the United States have discovered a new
group of stem cells that can give rise to heart muscle cells, known
as cardiomyocytes, according to a study published Sunday.

The stem cells are located in the outermost layer of the heart and
could one day play a critical role in regenerating injured heart
tissue, the researchers say.

"In heart failure, you lose cardiomyocytes, so the only way to
reverse heart failure is to make more of these cells," said William
Pu, the study's lead researcher and a pediatric cardiologist at
Children's Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts.

The new findings come on the heels of two earlier breakthroughs.

In 2006 scientists identified another cardiac stem cell -- marked by
the expression of a gene called Nkx2-5 -- with the potential to
become either heart muscle or cells lining blood vessels in the
organ's left-sided chambers.

Gene expression is the process by which information encoded in the
DNA of a particular gene is transformed into a protein or RNA, which
plays a key role in protein synthesis.

In parallel, other US researchers discovered a related progenitor
heart cell -- so-called because of its capacity to generate different
types of tissue -- that produces the same cell types in the right-
sided heart chambers.

Pu's study, published online in the journal Nature, shows for the
first time that new heart stem cells can also be derived from a third
type of cardiac stell cell, located within the surface of the organ
and identifiable through its expression of a gene called Wt1.

The results were independently verified by another team of scientists
at the University of California in San Diego, whose research was
published in the same issue of Nature.

Pu and colleagues showed that the cells from the heart's outer
lining, called the epicardium, can not only metamorphose into
cardiomyocytes but also into smooth muscle cells, endothelial cells,
which line the interior of blood vessels, and fibroblasts, found in
connective tissue.

"If you are going to regenerate tissue, you need to regenerate the
whole tissue, not just the cardiomyocytes," Pu said in a statement.

The discovery of the new stem cells was an accident. In order to
study the role a different gene in the epicardium, the researchers
labeled cells in live mouse embryos with red fluorescent protein.

"Unexpectedly, we saw that these epicardial cells were becoming
cardiomycytes -- it was a lucky observation," said Pu.

The next challenge, he added, is trying to figure out how a
progenitor stem cell decides to become a certain type of functioning
cell within the heart, and then how to develop methods to trick the
stem cells into transforming into the desired tissue.

"We still don't know how we can manipulate these progenitors," he
said.

Link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080622/ts_afp/healthdiseaseheartstemcell

And

Comedian George Carlin dies of heart failure in Los Angeles at 71

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Comedian George Carlin, a counter-culture
hero famed for his routines about drugs and dirty words, died of
heart failure at a Los Angeles-area hospital on Sunday, a spokesman
said. He was 71.
Carlin, who had a history of heart problems, died at St. John's
Health Center in Santa Monica about 6 p.m. PDT (9 p.m. EDT) after
being admitted earlier in the afternoon for chest pains, spokesman
Jeff Abraham told Reuters.

Known for his edgy, provocative material, Carlin achieved status as
an anti-Establishment icon in the 1970s with stand-up bits full of
drug references and a routine about seven dirty words you could not
say on television. A regulatory battle over a radio broadcast of
his "Filthy Words" routine ultimately reached the U.S. Supreme Court.