Hi All,

There have been several newbies signed up to the forum in the last
few days. As group moderator I get the initial application. As such
I'd like to invite you all to a a couple of video presentations on
Chelation therapy.

The first one after you click on the link is about 32 minutes long.
The second one which is done by Dr Cranton is about an hour in
length. Both make very compelling cases for Chelation. Please be
sure to have you're sound turned on and post any observations or
questions.

I am now on my 21st session in chelation and would be happy to
discuss it with you all. My story is the 1st postings on ths forum a
couple weeks ago.

Here's the link:

http://www.drcranton.com/Videos.htm

Rgrds
Tom
Port Charlotte, Fl

Hi Celia and Happy Healthy new year to you too!

No, there's no pills. EDTA is a solution that is dripped intraveneously
thru your blood stream and apparently takes out heavy metal particals
among other things.

A great place for you to get the whole presentation is in the links
section here on the forum. Scroll down to where you see Dr Crantons
Videos. One is about an hour long and the other about 32 minutes.

Great great information is contained there. From my own personal story
and experience I wrote quite a bit that you can read in the 1st 3 posts
in this forum.

I just returned from my walk by the way and did 3.5 miles in the rain.

Pretty incredible.

Rgrds
Tom

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "CELIA DANKS" <celia@d...>
wrote:
>
> Can someone explain in great detail exactly what drugs etc are given
in this therapy, are they i/v or do you take pills, what do the
treatments consist of?
> Happy New Year everyone
> Celia
> Scotland
>

Hello Tom & Group,

I'm new to this group and am looking forward to learning
more about chelation therapy.

Dr Duane Graveline discusses chelation in one of his articles:
"Chelation and Heart Disease"
http://www.spacedoc.net/chelation_heart_disease.htm
He has written many short "topic specific" articles that are
neatly organized on his website.

I affectionately refer to Dr Graveline as the:
"Cholesterol Guru". He's taking on the task of trying to
educate the public and the medical community that
"cholesterol is NOT the problem". His latest book is:
"Statin Drugs - Side Effects and the Misguided War on
Cholesterol".

His first book was "Lipitor - Thief of Memory".
After reading that book, I then fully understood why my
husband was experiencing memory loss, including several
bouts of TGA - transient global amnesia. He was actually
mis-diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

Around this same time (about 1 - 1/2 years ago) I also
inherited a support group for those suffering statin side
effects. If you are taking a cholesterol lowering drug
and want to learn more about their side effects, my
Yahoo! group is called "Stopped Our Statins".
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Stopped_Our_Statins/

I have no vested interest in Dr Graveline's books, but I
do value his advise and his vast knowledge of how our
body and brain function. He's the one source that I can
login to his website and he's not selling vitamins!
Recently he started a discussion forum and newsletter.

It's time for the medical community to wake up and smell
the roses. We don't need all the dangerous drugs they are
pushing on us everytime we walk into the doctor's office.
And we are what we eat. The low fat - low cholesterol diet is
one of the worst things we can do to our body. Saturated fat
is not the bad guy either; it's transfats and simple carbs that
are causing most of our health issues.

I receive many requests for "alternative therapies" and
chelation therapy seems to fit the bill.

Fran

Hi Tom,

This link should work OK.
http://www.holistic-online.com/

Fran

Tom,

While researching music therapy for my web site, I came across this info about chelation on www.holstic-online.com

 

"Many patients who could not walk due to muscle pain or angina pain have reported that they can walk without pain after chelation therapy."

 

I thought you would be interested.

Rowland

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: mrtudo1955

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/30/2005 10:53:43 AM

Subject: [chelationtherapy] Walking

I just returned from my afternoon walk. I did 1.9 miles today. ( 8.2
miles since tuesday night!) It's in the 80's temperature wise and I've
noticed that the warmer it is the less comfortable walking I am.

Also I noticed that the 1st mile I'm really cramped.m In fact sometimes
after I start walking, I feel as though I'm not going to make it a half
a mile. Such was the case a couple days ago when I broke the distance
for the day record. I did the first .7 mile and felt like crap. Then an
hour later we started walking, I felt sore and the soreness went away
after about a mile and then Forest Gump seemed to take over.

I'm not complaining as after the open heart surgery and prior to
starting chelation I couldn't walk 1/10 mile without being in agony.

Anyone elses experiences with walking would be appreciated

Rgrds
Tom

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----- Original Message -----

From: mrtudo1955

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/30/2005 10:53:43 AM

Subject: [chelationtherapy] Walking

I just returned from my afternoon walk. I did 1.9 miles today. ( 8.2
miles since tuesday night!) It's in the 80's temperature wise and I've
noticed that the warmer it is the less comfortable walking I am.

Also I noticed that the 1st mile I'm really cramped.m In fact sometimes
after I start walking, I feel as though I'm not going to make it a half
a mile. Such was the case a couple days ago when I broke the distance
for the day record. I did the first .7 mile and felt like crap. Then an
hour later we started walking, I felt sore and the soreness went away
after about a mile and then Forest Gump seemed to take over.

I'm not complaining as after the open heart surgery and prior to
starting chelation I couldn't walk 1/10 mile without being in agony.

Anyone elses experiences with walking would be appreciated

Rgrds
Tom

I read where taking oral chelation in conjunction with IV is the
best way to go for people with athlerosclerosis.

Does anyone have an opinion on this?

Happy, healthy new year!
Tom


--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Rowland Gale"
<rowgale@e...> wrote:
>
> I'm not certain what form of EDTA I take. I think it's magnesium,
but you could contact http://www.goodlifelabs.com/ to make certain.
> Rowland
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: M Lehman
> To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 12/31/2005 7:24:30 AM
> Subject: [chelationtherapy] Rowgale, what kind of oral chelation
are you doing?
>
>
> Rowgale, I saw your post where you'd described using oral
chelation for a number of years, which form of EDTA are you using -
Magnesium di-potassium EDTA, or Calcium di-sodium EDTA?  Or
something else?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know!
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: M Lehman

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/31/2005 7:24:30 AM

Subject: [chelationtherapy] Rowgale, what kind of oral chelation are you doing?

Rowgale, I saw your post where you'd described using oral chelation for a number of years, which form of EDTA are you using - Magnesium di-potassium EDTA, or Calcium di-sodium EDTA?  Or something else?

 

Inquiring minds want to know!

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Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy Denied to Doctor, Embraced by Government
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Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy Denied to Doctor, Embraced by Government
Latest HFM News
http://www.communicationagents.com/emma_holister/2004/10/26/hyperb
ari c_oxygen_therapy_denied_to.htm
"Dorothy Conforti had had a massive stroke. Her CAT scan showed
extensive brain damage. One side of her body was completely paralyzed and
she had no control over her bodily fluids or bowels. She could barely
see and
was unable to communicate. She couldn't feed herself, and she was close to
death.
Dr. Steenblock treated her in his hyperbaric oxygen chamber for one hour
every four hours and three hours of chelation, around the clock.
A follow up CAT scan showed the therapy successfully restored 85 percent of
the damage to her brain.
Today, she is back to normal.
Despite the enormous amount of testimonials from his patients, and
incredible successes like Dorothy's, establishment medicine was threatened.
Neurologists testified and told their patients that if it was in fact a
valid
treatment, they would be using it. Dr. Steenblock was savagely attacked with
every slander and pressure they could bring against him."
By National Health Federation's President
Maureen Kennedy Salaman
June 2003
http://www.thenhf.com/articles_09.htm
Patty is in critical condition as the paramedics wheel her into the
emergency
room. Relatives had pulled her out of her running car in a closed garage and
her doctors fear the worst. She is in a coma and her CAT scan shows the
carbon monoxide has caused extensive brain damage.
They have one trick up their sleeve: put her into the hospital's hyperbaric
oxygen chamber. In the chamber, Patty is given compressed, richer oxygen
that is expected to regenerate the portions of her damaged brain.
Hospital technicians explain that as the pressure in the chamber increases,
more oxygen is able to get to Patty's brain.
Later, her doctor proclaims that Patty is out of her coma and is showing
remarkable improvement. This is a true story that was documented by
producers of cable television's The Learning Channel, and aired as a segment
of their show, "Trauma, Life in the ER."
Dedicated Physician Shut Down, Medical Successes Ignored
David A. Steenblock, M.S., D.O., was the first physician to establish a
comprehensive stroke and brain injury rehabilitation facility using HBO
therapy and other modalities, with the goal being to repair the damaged
brain
from stroke and trauma.
Practicing out
of the Health Restoration Medical Center in Mission Viejo, CA, the reward
for his dedication has been that he has been hounded, persecuted, his
records
confiscated, and family members threatened as the FDA tried to keep him
from using the very therapy Charity Hospital in New Orleans now publicly
utilizes on national television!
Until Dr. Steenblock's remarkable work no one has paid attention to or
studied the repair of the damaged brain.
Limbs and motor skills were given extensive therapy, but establishment
medicine has contemptuously maintained the position that there was no
reversing damage to the brain.
Despite their contentions, Doctor Steenblock's
success with his patients and his thriving practice demonstrated that brain
damage can be reversed, even after years of time.
He told me about one particularly profound case. Dorothy Conforti had had
a massive stroke. Her CAT scan showed extensive brain damage. One side of
her body was completely paralyzed and she had no control over her bodily
fluids or bowels.
She could barely see and was unable to communicate. She couldn't feed
herself, and she was close to death. Dr. Steenblock treated her in his
hyperbaric oxygen chamber for one hour every four hours and three hours of
chelation, around the clock.
A follow up CAT scan showed the therapy
successfully restored 85 percent of the damage to her brain. Today, she is
back to normal.
Despite the enormous amount of testimonials from his patients, and
incredible successes like Dorothy's, establishment medicine was threatened.
Neurologists testified and told their patients that if it was in fact a
valid
treatment, they would be using it. Dr. Steenblock was savagely attacked with
every slander and pressure they could bring against him.
In 1995, the Department of Consumer Affairs approached the National
Stroke Association (NSA). They said that hyperbaric oxygen was not only
unproven but potentially dangerous. They quoted three references from 1966
to prove their point.
Using the NSA's contention, the California FDA and the Department of
Consumer Affairs issued a scathing report condemning the use of hyperbaric
oxygen for strokes.
Dr. Steenblock looked up their references and found they had nothing to do
with hyperbaric oxygen. Nothing.
He sued the National Stroke Association. Through utter chicanery, it never
got to court. They said it was opinion. The Department of Consumer Affairs
used the National Stroke Association's report to retaliate against Dr.
Stenblock.
They raided Dr. Steenblock's practice, telling him that if he continued
to use
his hyperbaric oxygen chambers they would enter his offices at will, anytime
they chose, bring bulldozers, drag the chambers out and destroy them.
Led by the California FDA, the Department of Consumer Affairs made good
on their threat. On the day they raided his office, he had 21 feeble and
very
sick patients waiting for treatments. The patients
were absolutely up in arms; extremely agitated as the government took away
the only help they could find.
One became so stressed by
the raid that he had a heart attack and died on the spot. At the time, Dr.
Steenblock had a doctor assisting him. When the FDA told him they would
conduct another raid without notice, he resigned. No
doctor will work with Dr. Steenblock under the threat of losing his
license to
practice.
The government's action has cost Dr. Steenblock one of his practices. He had
one medical and one trauma and stroke. He has lost a million dollars and
counting. He is stuck with a lease that he is still paying to the tune
of a quarter
of a million dollars on a medical clinic that he was forced to shut down
because the doctor who assisted him quit.
His second office is the stroke and trauma
center, which is under constant threat. At one time he owned a $450,000 lab,
which was closed down by the California FDA.
As I writethis, Dr. Steenblock, having run out of money to pay attorneys to
represent him, is representing himself against the Bureau of Medical Quality
Assurance board. This is his fourth hearing.
In the face of all this, I discovered that the Air Force is conducting
its own
research on using hyperbaric oxygen as medical therapy. A website
(http://www.wpmc1.wpafb.af.mil/pages/hbo/hbo1.htm) from the
WrightPatterson Medical Center at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in
Ohiostates their belief that it is a viable and successful therapy. It
states that their Department of Hyperbaric Medicine, 74th Medical Group, is
doing extensive research in the medical uses of HBO. One page of the
website proclaims:
"The Hyperbaric Medicine Flight team works to improve the health status of
our patients through quality hyperbaric medicine consultation and care. We
are dedicated to the advancement of the use of clinical hyperbaric medicine
through quality research and development of equipment and practices.We are
committed to enhancing the understanding of this therapeutic modality
through education of health care professionals and the public."
Just above a photo of their chief of medicine is a bold proclamation of
their
goal:
"To be a leading authority for research, education, and applications of
hyperbaric technology and medicine."
Dr. Steenblock has been doing just this for 11 years, under the most adverse
circumstances the government, financed by endless funds - ours, could
possibly create.
The government medical group's case reports include a 64-year-old diabetic
female whose wound infection would not have healed without HBO; a 55-
year-old female whose gangrene was completely healed after 37 treatments;
and a 52-year-old male whose post-cancer surgery of the mouth resulted in
necrosis that was resolved after 91 treatments.
Recovering from Trauma
Despite the darkness thrown onto this dedicated pioneer, Dr. Steenblock, the
light of knowledge is reaching the world. The good news is that hyperbaric
oxygen, or HBO, is now being recognized as a valuable tool in reversing the
effects of trauma.
Two factors are nvolved with HBO: oxygen and pressure.
The pressure helps reduce th dangerous swelling that follows trauma to the
body. If delivered soon after head or neck injury, damage to the brain and
spinal cord can be minimized.
Because of HBO's unique ability to deliver oxygen to the brain and other
parts of the body, to previously dormant cells, it can be used to
minimize the
effects of strokes, gangrene, near drowning, extensive blood loss, near
hanging, crush injuries, electrocution, burns, edema and serious infections.
Anywhere there
is a loss of oxygen to a part of the body resulting in tissue damage,
HBO can
help.
Based on what I've read, I believe it is
entirely possible that if actor Christopher Reeve had received HBO therapy
shortly after his horseback riding accident, he would not have suffered such
extensive paralysis.
Every medical trauma unit should have one, and a portable version should be
developed. Imagine! At the site of a car crash in which a victim has been
pinned inside the car; arms and legs deprived of blood and oxygen, in danger
of being amputated as a result, the paramedics can transport him in a
hyperbaric oxygen chamber, delivering vital oxygen to those limbs, probably
saving them.
In an incredible testimonial to the power of hyperbaric oxygen therapy to
heal, a 40-year-old man whose brain was seriously injured in a car crash was
brought back to life after doctors had given up all hope.
A month in the hospital and after extensive tests, therapies and drugs, the
man still did not respond to commands or open his eyes spontaneously. He
was in a deep, deep coma, and doctors didn't know if he would ever come out
of it. When he was discharged from the hospital, he required total life
support. The doctors told his wife she should place him in a nursing home
since no further improvement could be made.
Not willing to give up, his wife tried hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
Tests before therapy showed extensive brain deficits. After only one
treatment, improvement was noted. By the 93rd treatment the man not only
had come out of his coma, but could walk, move his arms, understand what
was going on around him and speak well.
After 188
treatments, tests showed his brain was completely recovered. The man's
doctors and therapists were amazed.
A clinical psychologist testified, "During this time the patient has had
markedly dramatic improvement in many of his cognitive functions. He has
become ambulatory, acquired good communication skills with others again,
has become independent once more in his self-help skills, and regained much
of his short-term and long-term memory. He seems to have responded to the
hyperbaric oxygen treatment programs."
Dr Steenblock conducted a study of his own results. It is most profound
because of the number of patients: 50, and the amount of time since their
strokes: average 28 months.
It showed that no
matter how long since the traumatic event, hyperbaric oxygen therapy can
still
benefit the patient.
He conducted the study with 50 "stable and no longer improving" stroke
patients, average age 62 years and, again, average time of 28 months since
their stroke. They received HBO therapy for 90 minutes each day, six days a
week for 60 treatments, as well as physical therapy for two hours and EEG
biofeedback for 30 minutes each day, five days a week. Physical therapists'
evaluations and patients' questionnaires were collected prior to and
after the
program. The therapists' evaluation included range of motion, strength of
extremities, bed mobility, bed to chair transfers and body's balance level.
By the therapists' evaluations, 100 percent of the patients showed
improvements in one or more functions. Of those, 18 percent had mild gain,
48 percent received good gain and 34 percent had excellent gain.
Results from patients' questionnaires showed that 95.83 percent of the
patients or their family members believed that the patient experienced
one or
more improvements in their motor ability, sensitivity to touch and
temperature, bladder and bowel control, cognition, memory, speech, sight
and hearing.
At the conclusion of
the program, 29 percent of the patients ranked the program as good, 42
percent ranked it as excellent, and 25 percent reported the program was
stupendous.
The Reality of Strokes and Trauma to the Brain
What conventional medicine has failed to realize, and why it has so
stubbornly refused to acknowledge the possibility of stroke recovery, is
that
strokes do not result in the death of brain cells.
Dr. Steenblock explains that the traditional concept of infarction, that the
brain tissue dies from a blood and oxygen shortage lasting more than a few
minutes, is no longer valid.
Actually, the death of
brain cells occurs only when the flow of blood falls below a certain level
(approximately 8-10 ml/100 gr./min.) while at slightly higher levels the
tissue
remains alive but not able to function.
Thus, in
acute stroke the affected core brain tissue may die while the more
peripheral
tissues remain alive for many years after the initial insult. Those
brain areas
that are injured and are not receiving enough blood flow as a result of
stroke
or trauma are referred to as "ischemic penumbra," "sleeping neurons," or
"dormant" or "idling neurons."
These neurons are nonfunctional but anatomically intact and can be
regenerated with hyperbaric oxygen therapy, repairing and generating new
blood vessels to the injured parts of the brain. It is this reality that
allows the
open minded physician to realize that HBO can and does work!
Let Me Count The Ways
There are many ways in which HBO benefits the patient. It reduces edema by
about 50 percent. In acute burns it reduces fluid requirements by 35 percent
in the first 24 hours. It reduces white cell adhesion to capillary walls.
In about 15 treatments, red blood
cell flexibility is doubled. White blood cell killing of aerobic
bacteria and some
fungi is greatly enhanced at high oxygen pressures, helping to control
osteomyelitis and necrosis. Extremely
important is its stimulation of new capillary and collagen formation in
radiated tissue, normalizing tissue oxygen tensions to permit surgery,
healing,
and even bone grafting.
Finally, it increases
tissue levels of superoxide dismutase, which counters the formation of free
radicals after injury, resulting in better tissue survival.
The Committee on Hyperbaric Oxygenation of the Undersea and Hyperbaric
Medical Society (UHMS), which has cognizance over this field, currently has
approved 14 disorders for treatment in the chamber.
HBO was first used for gas gangrene by Brummelkamp in 1965 in Holland
and thousands of patients have been treated with HBO for this disorder
worldwide. The best evidence comes from a U.S. Air Force study carried out
by researchers at the School of Aerospace Medicine.
They demonstrated that if HBO is used for gangrene within 24 hours of the
time of diagnosis, the overall mortality rate, when combined with
surgery and
antibiotics, is six percent. This is compared to a 14 percent mortality rate
without HBO.
Entirely too common is the loss of limbs by the diabetic patient. Oriani
reported a 10-year experience that showed 80 percent salvage in a group of
diabetics suffering limb-threatening lesions that received HBO, versus 40
percent in controls.
Multiple other
retrospective studies involving approximately 500 patients have been
consistent and indicate a 70-90 percent success rate, with success
defined as
the avoidance of amputation and, in many cases, complete wound healing.
Not uncommon is an amputation rate of 12.5 percent in a treated group
versus 40 percent in a control group.
One of the biggest problems in treating gangrenous lesions is the education
of referring physicians. Surgeons tend to operate on their patients before
sending them for hyperbaric treatment.
It is inadvisable to put a patient on the operating table when he is in
severe
septic shock and then to administer an anaesthetic while delaying hyperbaric
treatment.
While the patient is in surgery, the organisms have several hours to cause
further deterioration. The surgery before hyperbaric treatment severely
compromises that patient's prognosis.
Gangrene can kill within six hours of diagnosis
so a three hour delay while doing a massive debridement is
counterproductive.
Re-education of surgeons in this regard is
urgently needed. When this knowledge permeates the surgical community,
patients will benefit greatly.
Hyperbaric oxygen is of value when blood transfusion cannot be carried out.
This situation occurs in Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse transfusions or any
form of blood product. Another rare situation is where the patient has
severe
hemolysis and it is impossible to type and cross match blood for
transfusion.
HBO's ability to stimulate new capillary and collagen formation in the skin
means postoperative recovery can be enhanced. Whether by trauma, illness or
cosmetic surgery, postoperative patients can see faster recovery times with
less residual scarring.
Research has shown that survival can be more than doubled in severely
burned patients treated with hyperbaric oxygen compared with controls. In a
small series of severely burned patients, it was found that the
hospitalization
costs were lessened by approximately $92,000 per patient when hyperbaric
oxygen was used. There also was less than half as much grafting. There have
been anecdotal reports showing dramatic relief of sickle cell crisis with
hyperbaric oxygen. Original work done at Duke University showed that sickle
cell forms of the erythrocyte were markedly reduced under hyperbaric
conditions.
There have been anecdotal reports of patients with cerebral abscess who have
recovered following HBO treatment. Prior to being placed in the chamber,
they were pursuing a downhill course and were nearly moribund. Similarly,
the Russians have done a study of peritoneal abscesses which has shown
enhanced survival in humans. There are also animal studies which show
hyperbaric oxygen is of benefit.
One study found 20 patients with Bell's Palsy were cleared up in 15 days or
less with twice daily treatments at 2.8 atmospheres absolute (ATA) for one
hour. This rapid remission is unheard of in the usual clinical case.
It has been found that in the case of leprosy, the Mycobacterium leprae is
sensitive to high partial pressures of oxygen. It has been reported that six
treatments carried out over a three-day period have produced permanent
remission. Since leprosy is a tremendous financial burden in much of the
world, further research must be carried out to bring hyperbaric oxygen
to the
rescue in this disorder.
Dr. Steenblock sees HBO benefitting autistic children, by its ability to
repair
damaged brain blood vessels, stimulate growth hormones, detoxify and heal
the damaged brain, pancreas and intestinal tissues and decrease the
hyperexciteability of these children.
Treatments twice a day have proven successful for the correction of chronic
chemical allergies, as well as patients suffering from multiple
sclerosis, says
Dr. Steenblock.
In 1971, Dr. George Hart published a case study in which a Naval Officer
partially paralyzed from a stroke showed good improvement after 15 HBO
sessions. This was followed by a month with no HBO, and no change in the
patient's condition. After the next series of HBO treatments, the
officer was
able to return to full duty.
His study of 40 stroke patients after HBO therapy showed 27 percent
experienced significant improvement, 53 percent had moderate improvement
and 20 percent had no improvement. Dr. Steenblock has seen improvement
in stroke patients who have been paralyzed for as long as 15 years.
It should be obvious by now that establishing HBO therapy for early trauma
treatment and recovery should made a priority in every trauma unit and
hospital as soon as possible.
The evidence is irrefutable that HBO has the potential to not only allow
us to
recover from trauma with few lasting effects, but reverse disabilities
and help
us live our lives again free from their constraints. It is with great
satisfaction,
especially now that I've seen the remarkable benefits of HBO therapy for
myself, that I am witness to this explosion of research and acknowledgement
that it is a credible, valuable and attainable medical therapy.
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"Morphological Analysis of the Microcirculation During Reperfusion of
Ischemic Skeletal Muscle and the Effect of Hyperbaric Oxygen," Zamboni W.
A., et al, Plastic Reconstructive Surgery, p. 1110-1123, 1993.
"Oxygen Therapy and Diabetic Gangrene: a Review of 10 Year's experience,"
Oriani G., et al, Proceedings of the Joint Meeting on Diving and Hyperbaric
Medicine.
"Problem Wounds in Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery: The Role of Hyperbaric
Oxygen," Marx, R. E., et al. In: Davis, J. C. , Hunt, T. K., editors,
"Problem
Wounds: the Role of Oxygen," Elsevier Science Publishing, New York, p. 65-
125, 1988.
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See also: Oxidative Therapies
Posted by: Chris Gupta on October 28, 2004 05:32 PM
Unfortunately, our medical establishment is ignorant, having received
minimal
(as in minutes) of introduction to HBOT. What one does not know, one
fears.
My grandson had an hypoxic birth, with his mother dying shortly thereafter.
He has Cerebral Palsy as a result of this lack of oxygen. He has had 96 HBOT
treatments and is greatly improved. I believe if he had been treated with
HBOT at birth, we would not be seeing the symptoms of CP.
At one point, when we were first seeking treatment, a young man brought his
55yr old mother for treatment. She had sustained massive head injuries in
January due to a car accident. She was eventually left with a diagnosis of
persistent vegetative state. Four months later she received HBOT and after
20sessions was walking and talking coherently. She was featured in the
Toledo Blade, Mothers Day 2003. HBOT is the standard of care in all
continents except the USA. And we are the smartest, greatest, most
technological,etc.? How? We are truly behind the times.

I was just informed that our new chelation discussion group is
listed in an important Cardiology search:
http://www.heartandcoeur.com which is a world wide search engine for
cardiology.

Step by step and welcome to everyone who has joined . In the coming
weeks it is my intention to mail and email invitations to chelation,
holistic and eastern medicine doctors in as many places as we can
find. I am also planning on having flyers printed as I've been given
permission by 2 doctors offices in the last couple days to put
flyers on their patient bulletin boards advising people where this
group is.

We are for the most part fighting for our lives. I know I am. If you
would be so kind as to either post here or contact me privately to
lend a helping hand in promoting this group, it would be helpful to
many people, like us who are searching for alternative ways to live
a longer and better life. I know that I'd really like to avoid the
knive again and thus far, have had some progress, some of which can
surely be traced to chelation. Let's try and build this into an
informational place where others can find the same or tell their
experiences as well.

I do hope you will introduce yourselves and let us know what you
know about chelation or what you are hoping to find out.

Rgrds
Tom


Subject: Heart and Coeur -----> your website has been linked


It is an honour and a great pleasure for the World Search Engine in
cardiology  community to
inform you that your website

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1  Chelation Therapy-Heart, Vascular, Carotid Disease
(http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelationtherapy/ --
2005/12/29 - )
Chelation therapy for heart and vascular diseases discussion group.
Keywords: heart disease,bypass surgery,artheriosclerosis,hardening
of the arteries,vascular disease,stroke,


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has been linked to The World Search Engine in Cardiology. We hope
that is satisfactory for you.
We hope that you have found this site useful and that you will stay
in contact.
You can ,if you wish it, linked our web site with yours.
Our website includes more 1500 pages with councils, assistances,
information, history lived, ect...
The website Heart and Coeur is seen in 139 countries (meter in
bottom of the homepage )

The colder weather up here makes it tough. I like the cold, but not the
wind. Seems like I am always walking in the wind, no matter what I do. I
have a 2.1 mile walk me and Patti like to do, but it seems she is always a
minute or 2 ahead by the end. I have been taking rest , as I go. My legs
feel stiff, and I get tired real fast lately.

-----Original Message-----
From: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mrtudo1955
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:54 PM
To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chelationtherapy] Walking


I just returned from my afternoon walk. I did 1.9 miles today. ( 8.2
miles since tuesday night!) It's in the 80's temperature wise and I've
noticed that the warmer it is the less comfortable walking I am.

Also I noticed that the 1st mile I'm really cramped.m In fact sometimes
after I start walking, I feel as though I'm not going to make it a half
a mile. Such was the case a couple days ago when I broke the distance
for the day record. I did the first .7 mile and felt like crap. Then an
hour later we started walking, I felt sore and the soreness went away
after about a mile and then Forest Gump seemed to take over.

I'm not complaining as after the open heart surgery and prior to
starting chelation I couldn't walk 1/10 mile without being in agony.

Anyone elses experiences with walking would be appreciated

Rgrds
Tom







Yahoo! Groups Links

I just returned from my afternoon walk. I did 1.9 miles today. ( 8.2
miles since tuesday night!) It's in the 80's temperature wise and I've
noticed that the warmer it is the less comfortable walking I am.

Also I noticed that the 1st mile I'm really cramped.m In fact sometimes
after I start walking, I feel as though I'm not going to make it a half
a mile. Such was the case a couple days ago when I broke the distance
for the day record. I did the first .7 mile and felt like crap. Then an
hour later we started walking, I felt sore and the soreness went away
after about a mile and then Forest Gump seemed to take over.

I'm not complaining as after the open heart surgery and prior to
starting chelation I couldn't walk 1/10 mile without being in agony.

Anyone elses experiences with walking would be appreciated

Rgrds
Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: mrtudo1955

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/29/2005 9:16:50 PM

Subject: [chelationtherapy] Re: New Links Added today 12/27/2005

Hey Rowland,

I added you're website to the links section, titled Hemiplegia
Recovery ( Stroke).

Thank you
Tom


--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "rowgale" <rowgale@e...>
wrote:
>
> www.hemiplegiarecovery.com
>
> --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "mrtudo1955"
> <mrtudo1955@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Rowland!
> >
> > How about posting your URL and we can also give you a link here.
> >
> > Had the chelation session, the consult with Dr Coy and then
walked
> > with Hanh. We walked 75% of a mile. I started having the
soreness
> > and pain so we stopped and went home. Not the same pain that led
> me
> > to chelation or the docs office in the first place.....more like
> an
> > overall soreness in my legs. In any event, I developed a slight
> case
> > of the poor me's. Hanh was real good about it and about an hour
> > AFTER the initial walk, said "let's try walking again, I want
you
> to
> > describe and show me exactly where this pain/soreness is". I
told
> > here I really didn't think I could walk around the short block (
> 60%
> > of a mile), but she said, let's try.
> >
> > Well what an experience that turned out to me. I sort of limped
> for
> > the first block, then it seemed to get a little better and we
> > continued for another half a block, then it got even better so
we
> > kept walking. After 3 blocks, it almost felt as though the pain 
> in
> > my right calf went away entirely and our pace quickened.
Quickened
> > quite a bit too. When it was done we walked 5.4 miles! So for
the
> > afternoon, 5.4 + .75= over 6 miles total.
> >
> > Wow! And I didn't think I'd make it around the block.
> >
> > No matter what, keep pushing. Avoid the knife if you can!
> >
> > Rgrds
> > Tom
> >
> > --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Rowland Gale"
> > <rowgale@e...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > > I copied two of your web site links to MGH under carotid
> > endarterectomy.
> > > Rowland
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: mrtudo1955
> > > To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: 12/27/2005 12:12:39 PM
> > > Subject: [chelationtherapy] New Links Added today 12/27/2005
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi ,
> > >
> > > Today I had a chelation session as well as consultation with
Dr
> > Coy (
> > > My Chelation MD ). Dr Coy at my request also referred me to an
> > > MD/Cardiologist in Miami Beach who practices at Mt Sinai, and
> who
> > is
> > > also conducting the blind study for chelation there. I called
> and
> > made
> > > an appointment. He's in my network of health providers. Yeh!
> > >
> > > Also please note the number of new links added to the forum
here:
> > >
> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelationtherapy/links/
> > >
> > > More updates and information to follow.
> > >
> > > Rgrds
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> > >
> > >  Visit your group "chelationtherapy" on the web.
> > >  
> > >  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > >  chelationtherapy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >  
> > >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> > >
> >
>

Hey Rowland,

I added you're website to the links section, titled Hemiplegia
Recovery ( Stroke).

Thank you
Tom


--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "rowgale" <rowgale@e...>
wrote:
>
> www.hemiplegiarecovery.com
>
> --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "mrtudo1955"
> <mrtudo1955@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Rowland!
> >
> > How about posting your URL and we can also give you a link here.
> >
> > Had the chelation session, the consult with Dr Coy and then
walked
> > with Hanh. We walked 75% of a mile. I started having the
soreness
> > and pain so we stopped and went home. Not the same pain that led
> me
> > to chelation or the docs office in the first place.....more like
> an
> > overall soreness in my legs. In any event, I developed a slight
> case
> > of the poor me's. Hanh was real good about it and about an hour
> > AFTER the initial walk, said "let's try walking again, I want
you
> to
> > describe and show me exactly where this pain/soreness is". I
told
> > here I really didn't think I could walk around the short block (
> 60%
> > of a mile), but she said, let's try.
> >
> > Well what an experience that turned out to me. I sort of limped
> for
> > the first block, then it seemed to get a little better and we
> > continued for another half a block, then it got even better so
we
> > kept walking. After 3 blocks, it almost felt as though the pain
> in
> > my right calf went away entirely and our pace quickened.
Quickened
> > quite a bit too. When it was done we walked 5.4 miles! So for
the
> > afternoon, 5.4 + .75= over 6 miles total.
> >
> > Wow! And I didn't think I'd make it around the block.
> >
> > No matter what, keep pushing. Avoid the knife if you can!
> >
> > Rgrds
> > Tom
> >
> > --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Rowland Gale"
> > <rowgale@e...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > > I copied two of your web site links to MGH under carotid
> > endarterectomy.
> > > Rowland
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: mrtudo1955
> > > To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: 12/27/2005 12:12:39 PM
> > > Subject: [chelationtherapy] New Links Added today 12/27/2005
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi ,
> > >
> > > Today I had a chelation session as well as consultation with
Dr
> > Coy (
> > > My Chelation MD ). Dr Coy at my request also referred me to an
> > > MD/Cardiologist in Miami Beach who practices at Mt Sinai, and
> who
> > is
> > > also conducting the blind study for chelation there. I called
> and
> > made
> > > an appointment. He's in my network of health providers. Yeh!
> > >
> > > Also please note the number of new links added to the forum
here:
> > >
> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelationtherapy/links/
> > >
> > > More updates and information to follow.
> > >
> > > Rgrds
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> > >
> > >  Visit your group "chelationtherapy" on the web.
> > >
> > >  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > >  chelationtherapy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> > >
> >
>

This is something we would like to avoid. Cranton shows charts in
his video showing definite improvement from chelation in the
treatment of blocked carotids. There's another link as well but not
copy-able.

Rgrds
Tom

Carotid Endarterectomy

The surgical removal of the material inside the arteries at the
front of the neck that provide blood to the brain is called a
carotid endarterectomy (CEA). This procedure can be performed with
the patient awake (local anesthesia) or asleep (general anesthesia).
Precautions are usually taken to ensure adequate blood flow to the
brain during the operation and may include; the monitoring of brain
waves (EEG), keeping the patient awake for repeated examinations,
monitoring 'back pressure' in the clamped artery, or placing a
diverting tube to allow continued blood flow to the brain (shunt).
Each method is acceptable, and choice should be determined based
upon the surgeon, the patient, and the facility at which the
operation is performed. The patient has an incision in the front of
the neck along where the artery lies. Further description of the
procedure can be found at the PVSS website at www.pvss.org in the
photoatlas section.

The major risks of CEA are stroke, bleeding, heart attack, death,
infection, and cranial nerve injury. CEA does prevent stroke
statistically, but there is also a risk of stroke with the
operation. Stroke occurs about 2% of the time when the artery is
operated for the amount of blockage alone, and about 3-5% of the
time when the artery is already causing problems such as transient
ischemic attacks (see above). This may seem strange that the
operation causes the very thing it is trying to prevent, but it is
one of the unavoidable possibilities of this operation. The risk of
heart attack is real for many of the patients undergoing CEA. The
risk of heart attack is not so much from the stress of the
operation, as it is having blockages in your carotid arteries is a
risk for having disease in the arteries that feed the heart. The
incidence of significant bleeding and infection are actually small.
Cranial nerves are nerves that control such things as the tongue,
the voice box, the face, and swallowing. These nerves can be injured
with operation, usually a 'stretch' injury. The vast majority of
these nerve injuries are partial, not disabling, and fortunately
temporary. There are some superficial nerves that can (and sometimes
must) be severed to complete the operation. These superficial nerves
provide 'feeling' to the ear and neck. Patients comment after the
operation of numbness or a strange feeling (especially men who
shave), but it is very rare for this to be more than minor problem.

The benefit of CEA has been established in two major United States
trials in the last 15 years. These trails were established because
of the belief by many doctors that aspirin and drugs were superior
in the prevention of stroke to surgical operation. These beliefs
were put to the test in a randomized, prospective, blinded, multi-
center trails (this represents the best form of medical evidence) in
both the United States and Europe. The studies results in Europe and
the United States had similar findings, in that surgery
significantly reduced the risk of stroke compared to medication
therapy in certain instances. The risk of stroke and death in three
years on medication for a patient having symptoms from the involved
carotid artery was 22%, and only 12.3% if surgery was performed
(about half that of medication alone). When the carotid artery was
blocked by more than 60% even if not causing the patient any
problems, the risk of stroke in five years with medications was 11%,
and only about 5% with surgery.

I'm watching this video by Dr Cranton:

http://www.drcranton.com/Videos.htm

Scroll down and click on DR. CRANTON'S LECTURE ON CHELATION THERAPY, 60
minutes and check it out.

Interesting. I've also added it to the Links section. Over the coming
weeks and months I hope the links section will become even more
informative.

Rgrds
Tom
Port Charlotte

www.hemiplegiarecovery.com

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "mrtudo1955"
<mrtudo1955@y...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rowland!
>
> How about posting your URL and we can also give you a link here.
>
> Had the chelation session, the consult with Dr Coy and then walked
> with Hanh. We walked 75% of a mile. I started having the soreness
> and pain so we stopped and went home. Not the same pain that led
me
> to chelation or the docs office in the first place.....more like
an
> overall soreness in my legs. In any event, I developed a slight
case
> of the poor me's. Hanh was real good about it and about an hour
> AFTER the initial walk, said "let's try walking again, I want you
to
> describe and show me exactly where this pain/soreness is". I told
> here I really didn't think I could walk around the short block (
60%
> of a mile), but she said, let's try.
>
> Well what an experience that turned out to me. I sort of limped
for
> the first block, then it seemed to get a little better and we
> continued for another half a block, then it got even better so we
> kept walking. After 3 blocks, it almost felt as though the pain
in
> my right calf went away entirely and our pace quickened. Quickened
> quite a bit too. When it was done we walked 5.4 miles! So for the
> afternoon, 5.4 + .75= over 6 miles total.
>
> Wow! And I didn't think I'd make it around the block.
>
> No matter what, keep pushing. Avoid the knife if you can!
>
> Rgrds
> Tom
>
> --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Rowland Gale"
> <rowgale@e...> wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> > I copied two of your web site links to MGH under carotid
> endarterectomy.
> > Rowland
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mrtudo1955
> > To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: 12/27/2005 12:12:39 PM
> > Subject: [chelationtherapy] New Links Added today 12/27/2005
> >
> >
> > Hi ,
> >
> > Today I had a chelation session as well as consultation with Dr
> Coy (
> > My Chelation MD ). Dr Coy at my request also referred me to an
> > MD/Cardiologist in Miami Beach who practices at Mt Sinai, and
who
> is
> > also conducting the blind study for chelation there. I called
and
> made
> > an appointment. He's in my network of health providers. Yeh!
> >
> > Also please note the number of new links added to the forum here:
> >
> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelationtherapy/links/
> >
> > More updates and information to follow.
> >
> > Rgrds
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> >
> >  Visit your group "chelationtherapy" on the web.
> >
> >  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >  chelationtherapy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
> >
>

Thanks Rowland!

How about posting your URL and we can also give you a link here.

Had the chelation session, the consult with Dr Coy and then walked
with Hanh. We walked 75% of a mile. I started having the soreness
and pain so we stopped and went home. Not the same pain that led me
to chelation or the docs office in the first place.....more like an
overall soreness in my legs. In any event, I developed a slight case
of the poor me's. Hanh was real good about it and about an hour
AFTER the initial walk, said "let's try walking again, I want you to
describe and show me exactly where this pain/soreness is". I told
here I really didn't think I could walk around the short block ( 60%
of a mile), but she said, let's try.

Well what an experience that turned out to me. I sort of limped for
the first block, then it seemed to get a little better and we
continued for another half a block, then it got even better so we
kept walking. After 3 blocks, it almost felt as though the pain  in
my right calf went away entirely and our pace quickened. Quickened
quite a bit too. When it was done we walked 5.4 miles! So for the
afternoon, 5.4 + .75= over 6 miles total.

Wow! And I didn't think I'd make it around the block.

No matter what, keep pushing. Avoid the knife if you can!

Rgrds
Tom

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Rowland Gale"
<rowgale@e...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> I copied two of your web site links to MGH under carotid
endarterectomy.
> Rowland
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mrtudo1955
> To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 12/27/2005 12:12:39 PM
> Subject: [chelationtherapy] New Links Added today 12/27/2005
>
>
> Hi ,
>
> Today I had a chelation session as well as consultation with Dr
Coy (
> My Chelation MD ). Dr Coy at my request also referred me to an
> MD/Cardiologist in Miami Beach who practices at Mt Sinai, and who
is
> also conducting the blind study for chelation there. I called and
made
> an appointment. He's in my network of health providers. Yeh!
>
> Also please note the number of new links added to the forum here:
>
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelationtherapy/links/
>
> More updates and information to follow.
>
> Rgrds
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>  Visit your group "chelationtherapy" on the web.
>
>  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  chelationtherapy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: mrtudo1955

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/27/2005 12:12:39 PM

Subject: [chelationtherapy] New Links Added today 12/27/2005

Hi ,

Today I had a chelation session as well as consultation with Dr Coy (
My Chelation MD ). Dr Coy at my request also referred me to an
MD/Cardiologist in Miami Beach who practices at Mt Sinai, and who is
also conducting the blind study for chelation there. I called and made
an appointment. He's in my network of health providers. Yeh!

Also please note the number of new links added to the forum here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelationtherapy/links/

More updates and information to follow.

Rgrds
Tom

Hi ,

Today I had a chelation session as well as consultation with Dr Coy (
My Chelation MD ). Dr Coy at my request also referred me to an
MD/Cardiologist in Miami Beach who practices at Mt Sinai, and who is
also conducting the blind study for chelation there. I called and made
an appointment. He's in my network of health providers. Yeh!

Also please note the number of new links added to the forum here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelationtherapy/links/

More updates and information to follow.

Rgrds
Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: Mr Tudo

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/26/2005 3:31:56 PM

Subject: Re: [chelationtherapy] NEWBIE MEMBER

That's OK Rowland,

 

Maybe it has to do with how new the forum is? I know you could simply plu the URL as a link or attach it to a button or name.

 

Rgrds

Tom

Rowland Gale <rowgale@...> wrote:

Tom,

Tried time and again to put the button on my site, but had no luck at all.

Sorry.

Regards,

Rowland

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mr Tudo

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/26/2005 8:13:10 AM

Subject: Re: [chelationtherapy] NEWBIE MEMBER

Hi Rowland,

 

Thank you!  I hope to add a few links to the group today as time permits. I am also compiling a list of emails I intend to send invitations to, from other heart disease places I've been to and have established communications with a few people. As you probably know there are a number of yahoo groups which are supposed to be specific to heart and vascular disease but a lot of them are prone to spam, commercial ads and the like. I hope to prevent a lot of that as I have been able to do on another yahoo group I started and still maintain after 3 years and a few months. If you check it out here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DestinationVietnam/ you'll see it started a little slow back in Sept, 2002 when I was still living on top of a mountain overlooking the gulf of Siam on an island in south Thailand, with 3 posts then very few posts, then building to a seeming cresendo, then finally finding it's way and plodding along with a number of people who got to know each other and every now and then a newbie coming aboard.

 

So it will take a little time but I have a feeling this ones going to be a lot bigger than that one and who knows where it will go. I'm inviting my chelation Doc and hopefully they will post from time to time and help out with information.

 

If you would be so kind to place a button somewhere on you're website that would be appreciated. I am also going to make a couple of inexpensive flyers for the bulletin boards at the chelation clinics I go to.....hopefully they'll let me put them up there and lalso intend to drop in on some other areas in which to hopefully talk to people and direct them here.

 

Time...........hahaha a most precious commodity:)

 

Rgrds

Tom
rowgale <rowgale@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,
I'm proud to be a member of this group. I have not have any IV
therapy, but have taken oral chelation for 5 or 6 years after my
stroke. I believe this therapy along with vitamin C has kept my left
carotid from getting worse - 90%-95% blockage. I'm a strong advocate
of chelation therapy in all forms and I intend to keep taking
chelation for the forseeable future. I wish more people would do the
same, especially as they age.
Rowland

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Tom,

Tried time and again to put the button on my site, but had no luck at all.

Sorry.

Regards,

Rowland

 

 

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From: Mr Tudo

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/26/2005 8:13:10 AM

Subject: Re: [chelationtherapy] NEWBIE MEMBER

Hi Rowland,

 

Thank you!  I hope to add a few links to the group today as time permits. I am also compiling a list of emails I intend to send invitations to, from other heart disease places I've been to and have established communications with a few people. As you probably know there are a number of yahoo groups which are supposed to be specific to heart and vascular disease but a lot of them are prone to spam, commercial ads and the like. I hope to prevent a lot of that as I have been able to do on another yahoo group I started and still maintain after 3 years and a few months. If you check it out here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DestinationVietnam/ you'll see it started a little slow back in Sept, 2002 when I was still living on top of a mountain overlooking the gulf of Siam on an island in south Thailand, with 3 posts then very few posts, then building to a seeming cresendo, then finally finding it's way and plodding along with a number of people who got to know each other and every now and then a newbie coming aboard.

 

So it will take a little time but I have a feeling this ones going to be a lot bigger than that one and who knows where it will go. I'm inviting my chelation Doc and hopefully they will post from time to time and help out with information.

 

If you would be so kind to place a button somewhere on you're website that would be appreciated. I am also going to make a couple of inexpensive flyers for the bulletin boards at the chelation clinics I go to.....hopefully they'll let me put them up there and lalso intend to drop in on some other areas in which to hopefully talk to people and direct them here.

 

Time...........hahaha a most precious commodity:)

 

Rgrds

Tom
rowgale <rowgale@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,
I'm proud to be a member of this group. I have not have any IV
therapy, but have taken oral chelation for 5 or 6 years after my
stroke. I believe this therapy along with vitamin C has kept my left
carotid from getting worse - 90%-95% blockage. I'm a strong advocate
of chelation therapy in all forms and I intend to keep taking
chelation for the forseeable future. I wish more people would do the
same, especially as they age.
Rowland

Be nice to the people on the way up....cause you'll meet the same people on the way down. Ralph Kramden

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----- Original Message -----

From: Mr Tudo

To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 12/26/2005 8:13:10 AM

Subject: Re: [chelationtherapy] NEWBIE MEMBER

Hi Rowland,

 

Thank you!  I hope to add a few links to the group today as time permits. I am also compiling a list of emails I intend to send invitations to, from other heart disease places I've been to and have established communications with a few people. As you probably know there are a number of yahoo groups which are supposed to be specific to heart and vascular disease but a lot of them are prone to spam, commercial ads and the like. I hope to prevent a lot of that as I have been able to do on another yahoo group I started and still maintain after 3 years and a few months. If you check it out here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DestinationVietnam/ you'll see it started a little slow back in Sept, 2002 when I was still living on top of a mountain overlooking the gulf of Siam on an island in south Thailand, with 3 posts then very few posts, then building to a seeming cresendo, then finally finding it's way and plodding along with a number of people who got to know each other and every now and then a newbie coming aboard.

 

So it will take a little time but I have a feeling this ones going to be a lot bigger than that one and who knows where it will go. I'm inviting my chelation Doc and hopefully they will post from time to time and help out with information.

 

If you would be so kind to place a button somewhere on you're website that would be appreciated. I am also going to make a couple of inexpensive flyers for the bulletin boards at the chelation clinics I go to.....hopefully they'll let me put them up there and lalso intend to drop in on some other areas in which to hopefully talk to people and direct them here.

 

Time...........hahaha a most precious commodity:)

 

Rgrds

Tom
rowgale <rowgale@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,
I'm proud to be a member of this group. I have not have any IV
therapy, but have taken oral chelation for 5 or 6 years after my
stroke. I believe this therapy along with vitamin C has kept my left
carotid from getting worse - 90%-95% blockage. I'm a strong advocate
of chelation therapy in all forms and I intend to keep taking
chelation for the forseeable future. I wish more people would do the
same, especially as they age.
Rowland

Be nice to the people on the way up....cause you'll meet the same people on the way down. Ralph Kramden

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Hi Tom,
I'm proud to be a member of this group. I have not have any IV
therapy, but have taken oral chelation for 5 or 6 years after my
stroke. I believe this therapy along with vitamin C has kept my left
carotid from getting worse - 90%-95% blockage. I'm a strong advocate
of chelation therapy in all forms and I intend to keep taking
chelation for the forseeable future. I wish more people would do the
same, especially as they age.
Rowland

Hi Tom,
I'm proud to be a member of this group. I have not have any IV
therapy, but have taken oral chelation for 5 or 6 years after my
stroke. I believe this therapy along with vitamin C has kept my left
carotid from getting worse - 90%-95% blockage. I'm a strong advocate
of chelation therapy in all forms and I intend to keep taking
chelation for the forseeable future. I wish more people would do the
same, especially as they age.
Rowland

Thus far in a fairly short period of time, my walking progressed
significantly as did my outlook on life, not to mention the pain
starting to fade away. There were some other perks as well.
Erections which had become somewhat less than frequent ( almost
nonexistent after the open heart surgery for almost 2+ months)
started coming back in the mornings, as well as while redeveloping
my libido again. Wow! Pretty soon it was going to be about the time
to have actual tests to see if any real changes were taking place or
if all this was induced by my mind, or if exercise was doing it (
nah ) or what.

The tests were done on Dec 23rd, 2005, the first actual tests since
starting this IV chelation program 2 1/2 months ago ( 19 sessions
thus far). The test is an Ankle Brachial test which they wrap the
ankle, then calf, just above the thigh and further up the groin area
and arms to determine the ABI index., pressure and velocity ( I
think ) of blood flow.

According to the test there's been no change in my left leg. This is
somewhat bizarre as I started chelation mostly because of the
excruciating pain I was having in my left leg while walking just a
short distance ( 1/10th mile). The ABI was .89 when tested and the
MRA showed an approximate 80% blockage in the left common illiac
artery. What's bizarre is I don't have that pain anymore when
walking short distances. That's been gone for almost 6 weeks now!
And I've walked as far as 5.6 miles without any pain issues.

The right leg, which has a 100% blocked femoral artery is another
story. I had extreme pain in my lower right calf after walking about
3/4 of a block, and that's been much much less for about 6 weeks as
well. I still know the pain is there as it's like an underlying
thing but the type of pain that stopped me at least momentarily from
walking, is for the most part gone in the short run and even walking
longer distances, is just a fraction of what it was. Wellk the tests
would seem to reflect that as the ABI in my right leg when I was
first tested was .68 which according to the ankle brachial index is
moderate diseased. Now its .80 ( !! ).

That's really significant. What's really interesting is the nurse
said she really didn't expect that much of a change so soon in that
it takes the full 30-40 treatments generally to see that kind of
turn to the positive ( in the legs).

The next question I had of course was what could we speculate is
happening in the carotids ( I am not getting tested again there for
a couple more months). The response was, "good things" as the
chelation of course works it's way thruout the body. Which of course
leads me back to why is there seemingly no change in the left leg,
and why no pain there anymore ( for the most part) etc etc etc.

Stay tuned. There's no way I'm stopping now

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
Tom
Port Charlotte, Fl

Hello again,

This post is a continuation of the first thread.I hope it proves to
be more uplifting in our lives and serves as a helpful motivator for
others.

So I started the chelation. I don't like needles at all. But after
being told that surgery was the option and actually hearing
inconsistencies from the mainstream medical profession, what choices
did I have? My Wife had clearly demonstrated to me the help that was
available in simply taking a more eastern and holistic approach to
my health issues, with my cholestrol coming down 45 points WITHOUT
taking statins, ( and we're getting even more aggressive now), now
maybe this chelation might help. I really didn't want to get cut
again. So I signed up. They ran the hair test, blood test,
cholestrol test and the ankle-brachial-doppler ( ? ) test. My ABI
index came in as follows: Left side:  0.89, right side: 0.68. Stay
tuned as changes are-a-comin.

Around the time I started chelation I tried cutting the lawn but
just could not do it. I could make one pass with the mower from left
to right, then halfway back again and was in such agony in my left
leg, and pain in my right leg I fell into a plastic chair on the
patio, drenched in sweat. Hanh finished the cutting. By the 6th or
7th chelation I was walking somewhat better. In fact, a walk around
the block, in which I HAD to stop previously at least 3 or more
times to rest from the pain, I now made it around the block, albeit
uncomfortably, without stopping one time! Certainly a little
progress. About a week later I felt motivated enough to try the lawn
mower again and while Hanh was in the front of the house cleaning
out the beds, I started the mower. This time was much different. I
made the first pass from left to right without pain, then from right
tob left, left to right, back and forth until the backyard was done!
Hanh came running into the backyard and I put my finger over my lips
and said "SHHH, Don't Say Anything !" I then took the mower to the
front and completely did the front as well as weed whacked both
front and back. Some discomfort of course but not enough to make me
stop........except to pick up some debris, and I just kept on going!
The next day I went to Home Depot. You know those orange flat bed
carts? I filled one up with bags of mulch among other things, pushed
it back to the Jeep, loaded up and went back to work on the property
cutting all the hedges, filling the wheelbarrel with mulch making
numerous trips from front to back, AND trimmed the big black olive
tree in the backyard with a pole saw! Unbelievable and I must admit
for a few days I was sore sore sore! But I did it!

3 days later I walked again only this time I walked 1.6 miles. While
there was some discomfort, I did not have to stop. I wasn't breaking
any speed records either but I walked for almost 45 minutes non
stop. That was a first. Several days later I walked 3.3 miles and
then the coup de grace, I walked 5.6 miles with my Wife and could
have walked more but really needed to hit a bathroom and so we went
home. We went to North Carolina for a couple weeks and I had but one
negative experience walking up there.

More to come, let me take a break now please.

Rgrds
Tom

Hello and Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays,

I'm Tom and I started this yahoo group today with the hopes of
communicating with other people who have been afflicted, like I have
been afflicted with vascular and heart disease. And who are looking
for ways to get well, or at least learn how to cope and live a
better and longer life.

I'm a 50 y.o. man, happily married, and had a little pain in my
lower right calf muscle when walking aggressively or walking for a
distance of maybe a 1/4 mile or so. This started quite a while
ago.I'm a professional Numismatist ( coin dealer) and other than
these darn health problems live a very full and happy life with a
great family and several close amd dear friends.

In August of 2004, we lost the use of our home because of Hurricane
Charley ( our house was in the eye of that baby which had 145MPH
sustained winds, gusting to 180 MPH right outside our door), which
led us to do a little traveling. We ( My Wife and I amd our two
cats, Pumpkin and Oreo Cookie)enjoyed going up to the Poconos, and
then Western North Carolina ( Asheville, Hendersonville) and finally
decided find a house there to buy and relocate there. We decided to
rent a place starting in January 2005 for 3 months so we would be in
no hurry. My Wife Hanh, wanted me to quit smoking ( which I did on
January 27th, 2005) and off I went for a little help from the doc
and while there asked about the pain in my lower right calf. That
turned out to be a 100% blocked femoral artery and he sent me to a
surgeon to look closer at it.

Needless to say we didn't make it back to western North Carolina for
some time afterwards. The blocked femoral led to additional tests
which showed a 100% blocked LAD artery ( the one they call
the "Widow Maker" ) an approximate blockage in the 60's % in my
right carotid and off I went to have an open heart surgery, bypass,
Mammary to LAD with the promise of more tests and possibly more
surgeries later on.

Several months after the surgery a new issue came up and that was an
excrusiating pain in my left buttock, traveling down my left thigh
like a charley horse, when I walked even a short distance of only
1/10 mile. Now I became almost frantic and went for more tests. They
sent me for an MRA and it came back showing an approximate 80%
blockage in my left illiac artery which even the Cardiologist said
he was surprised at seeing. While there I also did the 7 month
follow up on the Carotid artery and the doppler showed according to
the surgeon about a 66% blockage. Essentially unchanged really. But
surgery was mentioned, a stent in the left illiac as well as "clean
out the carotid". I started looking seriously at chelation.

I'll stop for now and take a break. I will continue soon.

Rgrds
Tom
Port Charlotte Fl