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Re: [chelationtherapy] Re: Responses to "Heart disease study scrutinized" on Topix

Based on what took place during this "election", I would say those "freedoms" are on the verge of disappearing.
 
Tom


--- On Tue, 9/30/08, Jon <gravelygarage@...> wrote:
From: Jon <gravelygarage@...>
Subject: [chelationtherapy] Re: Responses to "Heart disease study scrutinized" on Topix
To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:28 PM

What can we do to make sure that we retain our freedom of choice
when it comes to health care? It would be easy for congress to pass
a bill regarding alternative health care while all eyes are on the
Wall Street mess. If I don't have my chelation treatments I won't be
needing my retirement investments.

--- In chelationtherapy@ yahoogroups. com, "mrtudo1955"
<mrtudo1955@ ...> wrote:
>
> They are going to limit our health choices people. No doubt about
it.
>
> Here's some of the responses:
>
> Jim
> Cleveland, OH Reply »
> |Report Abuse |#1 12 hrs ago
> Doctors profitting from a study?
> This is scary stuff and undermines the legitimacy of ALL studies,
> good or bad. I hope the guinea pigs profit from fat lawsuits down
the
> road for being used in this manner.
>
>
> Chelation Fan
> Delray Beach, FL Reply »
> |Report Abuse |#2 11 hrs ago
> This article doesn't state that chelation therapy is often used on
> patients who are being sent to hospice, and instead of dying they
> recover, apparently due the remarkable power of "the placebo
effect".
> Chelation therapy is used on race horses who seem to then run
faster;
> apparently the race horses also experience a "placebo effect".
Most
> of the physicians who administer this therapy actually use it on
> themselves (a time consuming procedure which also reduces their
> profits). Certain conventional cardiologists even send themselves,
> their family members, and favorite friends and patients to
chelation
> clinics, apparently knowing that heart bypass, carotid
endarectomies,
> and angioplasty/ stents don't "fix" anything long term (a study
last
> month reported stents provided no benefit other than relief of
chest
> pain for at most 3 years; those not getting the stents fared just
as
> well after 3 years). In fact, many of the patients at a chelation
> clinic have had bypasses and stents already, so they have already
> tried treating a atherosclerosis, a disease which affects the
entire
> body, with one little patch at a time, kind of like putting
hundreds
> of patches on a worn out old tire.
> The Bush administration is throwing alternative medicine under the
> bus in its waning hours while the attention is on the attempt to
> steal $700B from the taxpayers in the aftermath of a
failed "economic
> recovery from 9/11" that involved giving everyone who could fog a
> mirror a mortgage. It is important to remember as recently as
Sept.
> 10, 2001, Congress was holding hearings on vitamins which were
then
> categorized as "worthless"; since that time high doses of Vitamin
C
> and a few others have been accepted into the medical mainstream
and
> are now being routinely given in hospitals and nursing homes. Yet
ten
> years ago, high doses of Vitamin C were considered in the same
> category as chelation therapy, and Donna Shalala was dispatched by
> Bill Clinton to work with Big Pharma in Germany to try to outlaw
the
> non-prescription sale of high dose Vitamin C using the UN World
> Health Organization as a vehicle.
>
>
> melamine story
> Bangkok, Thailand Reply »
> |Report Abuse |#3 9 hrs ago
> I am only asking wheres the China melamine story?I have the Six
Star
> Muscle protein powder from Walmart which says made in the USA from
> international and domestic ingredients. Are they having recalls?
>
>
>
> Tudo
>
> Joined: Dec 19, 2006
> Comments: 283
> Port Charlotte, FL Reply »
> |Report Abuse |#4 7 hrs ago
> I have personally had more than 75 chelation sessions after a
failed
> bypass surgery at charlotte regional medical center in punta gorda
in
> 2005. They also wanted to slice and dice me for a blocked femoral
> artery, blocked common illiac and also a blocked right carotid.
> After 30 chelation treatments, I returned for testing and was told
I
> no longer needed surgery on the carotids. Far as the blocked
femoral
> and illiac. Previously the pain from these blockages stopped me
from
> being able to walk only 1/10 of a mile. I simply could nhot do it.
> After 15 chelation sessions I walked a mile. That was in 2005. I
now
> speed walk nearly 4MPH at a level 3 incline on the treadmill for 2-
3
> miles. Much further if I walk slower and I have since done 8
miles,
> nonstop. I had to pee which made me return home. I became like
forest
> gump in the neighborhood.
> Chelation Therapy has worked miracles for me.
> For more information I even started a yahoo group on the subject.
> Please visit: http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ chelatio. ..
>




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They are going to limit our health choices people. No doubt about it. Here's some of the responses: Jim Cleveland, OH Reply » ... Doctors profitting from a...
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What can we do to make sure that we retain our freedom of choice when it comes to health care? It would be easy for congress to pass a bill regarding...
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Based on what took place during this "election", I would say those "freedoms" are on the verge of disappearing.   Tom ... From: Jon <gravelygarage@...> ...
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