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Re: [chelationtherapy] study taking place at National Institutes of Health?

Hi Sreve,
 
would you mind saying what your EF is? ( "was" if known or relevant, thank you )
 
I noticed when I had chelation IV in western NC that the EDTA smell afterwards was much more pronounced than what I am having here in Fla. What does that mean?
 
Rgrds
Tom

Steve <dudescholar3@...> wrote:
coygators@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Goooooo oobagah Tom!!!
>
> CoEnzyme Q 10 up to 800 mgs. daily until your cardiologist tells you
> your ejection fraction is improving, then reduce the amount of it toward
> the more usual 100 to 200 mg. daily.

I take the equivalent of 1100 mg/day and intend to continue indefinitely - my
ejection fraction is normal by-the-way.

> I say stay away from the clinics that are involved with the NIH
> chelation study. It is troubling.
>
> As you indicated, what about the idiots who may be getting "placebo?"
> It is unethical to play roulette with a patient you know that has a
> problem and play some game of withholding treatment from him or not.
> You go to a doctor to be helped.

I don't think it is troubling to work with clinics that are involved in the NIH
study. The place I used in Utah is the only clinic in Utah that offers
chelation and I was asked if I wanted to be in the study. My reply was "Not a
chance!", I want to get the real deal. EDTA comes with a burning pain - I think
it's related to how acidic your blood is - and I can certainly tell nowadays if
I was getting the real deal or a placebo but I didn't want to play that game.
I've had 40+ session of EDTA to date (and 25 of PlaqueX) and try for a monthly
maintenance IV session of EDTA. Because my kidney function was very good, I got
a higher dosage of EDTA than average.

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Goooooo oobagah Tom!!! CoEnzyme Q 10 up to 800 mgs. daily until your cardiologist tells you your ejection fraction is improving, then reduce the amount of it...
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... I take the equivalent of 1100 mg/day and intend to continue indefinitely - my ejection fraction is normal by-the-way. ... I don't think it is troubling to...
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Hi Sreve, would you mind saying what your EF is? ( "was" if known or relevant, thank you ) I noticed when I had chelation IV in western NC that the EDTA smell...
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Tom, Some people use B-complex vitamins in the I.V. I use separate vitamins only, since I have found and heard of some people being sensitive to one or more...
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Steve, You are a wise consumer. It is not unethical for a patient to make a choice to assist the scientific process. I just think it is unethical for a...
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I never thought of the ethics before. Great point. Certainly it's the patient that probably has to sign a waiver etc but why would anyone opt in and take such...
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