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Re: [chelationtherapy] study taking place at National Institutes of Health?

Goooooo oobagah Tom!!!
 
CoEnzyme Q 10 up to 800 mgs. daily until your cardiologist tells you your ejection fraction is improving, then reduce the amount of it toward the more usual 100 to 200 mg. daily.
 
I say stay away from the clinics that are involved with the NIH chelation study.  It is troubling.
 
As you indicated, what about the idiots who may be getting "placebo?"  It is unethical to play roulette with a patient you know that has a problem and play some game of withholding treatment from him or not.  You go to a doctor to be helped.
 
The other problem is more sinister:  chelation therapy for circulatory problems has been a huge threat to the medical establishment for over fifty years.  They have tried every mob technique in the book to try to put a stop to it.  The NIH study is a trap the weak-minded among the chelation users helped to set up and are in the process of taking the bait.  They want a place at the table.  They want chelation therapy to be legitimate.  Why?  For the basest of all reasons:  greed.  Some are even worse:  they want it available to everyone since it is such a good therapy, and if the government says it is o.k. then it will be made affordable for all:  the same egalitarianism that leads to slavery every single time.
 
The result of the study will be one of two things, both leading to checkmate:  either chelation therapy will be declared, "once and for all" ineffective (even though this study is just as flawed as other studies designed to fail in the past) and will be outlawed by dictate; or it will be declared "a viable therapy" and as it is declared "legitimate," Medicare and other third-party payers will reimburse such low amounts as to make it economically unfeasible to do it, thus removing it from the market place. 
 
Go get it now!  Do not pass "GO!" Go to your nearest trusted chelator and get started.
 
jboy
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: oobagah@...
To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 5:52 PM
Subject: [chelationtherapy] study taking place at National Institutes of Health?

I'm new to this board. I have had two heart attacks, and two open heart
surgeries, and now I'm dealing with congestive heart failure with a
defibrillator. I have two blocked arteries that they don't seem too
concerned with, but I would like to see if chelation can get rid of
them. I have two cardiologists and I'm not impressed with either one of
them. I think all of their medications are a lot like chemo is for
cancer. They don't really cure anything.

The oobagah is from a kids video game, and this is my wife's user name
on the yahoo boards. Three of us are now using this name, and we have
another grown child living at home who uses this computer with a
different email address.

Is anyone taking part in the study being done by the National
Institutes of Health? What I don't like about these studies is the
placebo bit. I think if the placebo can get rid of arterial plaque then
let it. They can surely tell if the chelation is working or not. If
you're interested check it out at www.nccam.nih.gov/chelation.
Tom


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I'm new to this board. I have had two heart attacks, and two open heart surgeries, and now I'm dealing with congestive heart failure with a defibrillator. I...
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Goooooo oobagah Tom!!! CoEnzyme Q 10 up to 800 mgs. daily until your cardiologist tells you your ejection fraction is improving, then reduce the amount of it...
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... I take the equivalent of 1100 mg/day and intend to continue indefinitely - my ejection fraction is normal by-the-way. ... I don't think it is troubling to...
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Hi Sreve, would you mind saying what your EF is? ( "was" if known or relevant, thank you ) I noticed when I had chelation IV in western NC that the EDTA smell...
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Tom, Some people use B-complex vitamins in the I.V. I use separate vitamins only, since I have found and heard of some people being sensitive to one or more...
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Steve, You are a wise consumer. It is not unethical for a patient to make a choice to assist the scientific process. I just think it is unethical for a...
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I never thought of the ethics before. Great point. Certainly it's the patient that probably has to sign a waiver etc but why would anyone opt in and take such...
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