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Re: [chelationtherapy] Re: Cardiologist and Chelation

Hey Jon,
 
BRRRR it's cold today. Y'all must be sending us a winter present. It was 55 when I got up today and the high today is only supposed to be 67! Freezing cold cold cold wowow!
 
The doctors are a full of crap and in it for the big money. I went in to get the pain in my right leg checked. When I walked I got what seemed to be a muscle spasm in my lower right calf. So I went and had it checked. The asshole that I saw originally, ..........you know that new commercial on tv on puerto rico where they snap their fingers and say "Puerto Rico"! ? In retrospect that's what that guy reminds me of cept instead of saying puerto rico, I could see him saying "Fem-Pop" while snapping his fingers over and over again. Well, a femoral popliteal is not a snap. Not to me anyway. He also said "he doesn't do those any more, he only works on "veins". He referred me to the cardio thoracic surgeon who ultimately did my ( and screwed it up ) bypass surgery.
 
Anyway, he ( the surgeon ) then referred me to the cardiologist who did the heart cath. Young guy, smart obviously and I think he has some integrity left.......
 
The surgeon on the other hand , well, at one point this jerk off not only did the open heart on me, but wanted to have me check into the hospital and get a bypass ( Fem-Pop ) in  my right leg, a stent in my left leg ( a blockage that did not exist prior to meeting this "fellow" ), AND a right carotid endartectomy ( sp ? ) all in the same sitting. ! Even the cardiologist asked " He said that? " when I told him about it and that, these things could not be done like that, nor did I need them done! Now that was after he also scared the crap out of us by showing me a dot in my right lung and having me go for a PET scan while describing what doing a biopsy would be like and an upper lobectomy if necessary. Yes, all at the same time. Thank G-d I showed him that multi million dollar health insurance card ahead of time huh? Otherwise he might have said I was fine and to change my diet a bit haha.
 
Scuse my New Jersey Bluntness ( I'm not originally from Fla ya know? ) but this surgeon could use a good ass beating and/or lawsuit. Since I'm just a mild mannered coin dealer I called a big law firm who had me fill out papers and such and got back to me with "you have a good case". Only trouble is, that just like getting involved with these doctors, you have to make a commitment when getting into these types of lawsuits. They want to do another heart cath and you better march over there and get it done. Want you to go thru a barrage of new tests? Yup, you need to go. Etc etc etc.
 
The end result is we were told there's an issue ( buzzword of the new millenium? ) when my heart is placed under stress. Even as a layman I can see the differences in the pics from the nuclear part of the stress test. I'll take his word for it that the "abnormal flow" is in the same area as the bypass. Meanwhile I FEEL fine.  I asked him if he thought it was a blockage and he said in his opinion, No. He thinks the mammary is kinked a little or was a little on the small side. He also sid we can do another heart cath and maybe "pop it open with a balloon" if it's kinked. OR, treat it with medicine LOL. "Treat" it with medicine?
 
The cardiologist I think is the best of the worst that I've had the experience with. As Monty Hall would say in lets make a deal, there's more, so much more but I think y'all get the point.
 
I asked him if he thought I was in imminent danger of a heart attack or something like that and he said NO. He also said " I wouldn't recommend breaking down a rock pile" but by all means, excercise, walk, etc etc etc and that was that.
 
Meanwhile, while I can only walk a few miles at roughly 2 1/2 MPH, I can walk a few miles at 2 1/2 MPH! I RAN on the treadmill last week before catching a flight to Raleigh NC. RAN. Had the treadmill on number 8 and was RUNNING. Not far but was running.
 
No medication cept what I told you. Chelation every 2 weeks at Dr Coys place ( see below ). I have good days, better days, and not as good days. Such is life. Meanwhile the vampires are kept at bay .
 
I hope you are able to break free as well.
 
Rgrds
Tom
 
 
 
 
 


gravelygarage <gravelygarage@...> wrote:
Tom,

I have to agree with you about doctors. We are conditioned thru out
life to listen to them unconditionally. Ask them a question and
they quickly become defensive. It's not until they give you so much
conflicting 'advice' and/or your health deteriorates under their
care do you start to question them.

If you follow your current regiment of Chelation, exercise, diet and
supplements your blood and vessels should be pristene. Isn't the
stem cell stuff they are doing to repair heart muscle. I might see
you in Thailand. They tell me that mine was pretty damaged. When I
came out of bypass surgery the surgeon told my family that there was
evidence of a heart attack prior to the one that hospitalized me in
May.

Of course the western medical view is that heart damage can not be
repaired. I am hoping to prove them wrong. I don't expect a
perfect heart but some major improvement would be prayers answered.

As far as the weather is concerned.....what size coat do you wear.
I'll send you a coat down there ASAP. At 57 degrees we wouldn't want
you to suffer frost bite.

Jon

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, Mr Tudo <mrtudo1955@...>
wrote:
>
> Jon,
>
> Nah, they just went to chopping me open like an oyster. No
stents and I'm frankly not real motivated to try those if I go
negative. I think I'd prefer giving the stem cell treatment in
Thailand a shot first.
>
> I do not have a high opinion of these doctors. I used to. I
don't anymore.
>
> It was chilly here in S Fla you know. My Wife and I even wore
sweatshirts tonight! I think it was down to 57 degrees! Yikes!
>
> Heheh
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> gravelygarage <gravelygarage@...> wrote:
> You are one lucky man. A low pill count and high outside
> tempertures. It is 3 degrees outside right now! Our dog is sitting
> by the heater with his legs crossed. He said he was going to hold
> it until it warms up. Tom, did you ever have a stent or did you go
> straight to surgery?
>
> --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, Mr Tudo <mrtudo1955@>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was diagnosed as needing open heart surgery and having
> vascular problems ( 100% totally blocked femoral in right leg, 90%
> blocked common illiac in left ), the cardiologist packed a little
> brown paper bag for me . In it was samples of Toprol beta
blockers,
> plavix, lipitor and prescriptions for all of them.
> >
> > I passed on the beta blockers and plavix. I took the lipitor for
> a couple of months and then stopped it as I was having muscle
pains.
> >
> > I take 80mg of asprin a day and several suppliments per my Wife
> and chelation Doc.
> >
> > That is it.
> >
> > Rgrds
> > Tom
> > Port Charlotte Fla
> >




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Hello group, I am just beginning Chelation therapy to help with my heart condition (s). My cardiologist doesn't think much of supplements let alone Chelation....
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Hey Jon, Welcome and hope you don't mind some questions. Why are you seeing a cardiologist every 2 months? What's the situation with your heart and vascular ? ...
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Feb 1, 2007
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Tom, I answered you yesterday morning but my reply never showed up so if two happen to appear that is why. I had a heart attack May 26, 06 and got a medicated...
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hey Jon, Quite an adventure eh? I hope the chelation has positive effects for you. I've had more than 50 sessions thus far, and I started after having a single...
Mr Tudo
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Tom, I was in the Navy so I thought that I had my adventure behind me. LOL. You know as hard as it has been on me it has been even more difficult on my...
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LOL, trade locations? Sorry Jon haha. I couldn't walk 1/10th mile without a lot of pain and much further than that, I'd be leaning against my Wife, just...
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Hmmm, so bone chilling freezing weather doesn't sound stimulating to you? It's so cold out the dog says he'll learn to flush the toilet instead of going out! ...
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Tom Ruley again. I'm off the cigs since March '05. Soon two years. My blood is thin and slippery. Not thick and sticky. Oh yeah, I meant to ask Jon, What med...
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Hi Jon, Hi Tom, Tom Ruley in Baltimore here. Welcome to the group Jon. Me: Age 55. Weight 184. Retired. I had a MI January '97. Three angioplasties, eight...
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Hi Tom, Nice to meet you. I heard that Plavix was required for 'just' a year after the stents where implanted. I can't find the specific website but I am...
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Jon wrote: I can't find the specific website but I am pretty sure the drug that I take that list Sudden Cardiac Death as a possible side effect is Imdur. Hi...
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Fran, Thanks for the site info. I have just recently started taking a handful of supplements including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg included in...
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Jon wrote: Supplements: including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg included in some Cardio concoctions I take. In the last couple of days I've had...
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When I was diagnosed as needing open heart surgery and having vascular problems ( 100% totally blocked femoral in right leg, 90% blocked common illiac in left...
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You are one lucky man. A low pill count and high outside tempertures. It is 3 degrees outside right now! Our dog is sitting by the heater with his legs...
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Jon, Nah, they just went to chopping me open like an oyster. No stents and I'm frankly not real motivated to try those if I go negative. I think I'd prefer...
Mr Tudo
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Tom, I have to agree with you about doctors. We are conditioned thru out life to listen to them unconditionally. Ask them a question and they quickly become...
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Hey Jon, BRRRR it's cold today. Y'all must be sending us a winter present. It was 55 when I got up today and the high today is only supposed to be 67! Freezing...
Mr Tudo
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Tom, I'm sending you a couple of sled dogs in case the temperature drops below 50. I'd hate to see you get stuck out in those conditions! You are exactly...
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One comment on Toprol (beta blocker). A while back, I came across an article review on blood pressure lowering medications and how they affect all cause ...
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... That was a typo - it should PlaqueX. You should be able to google that one and have it work. ... Utah. Steve ... -- Steve - dudescholar3@... "A...
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... Tom, My chelation doctor has me alternating thru 3 different chelation therapies. Electrolyte Balancing, Plaquex and a Three Minute IV Push. Here's the...
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