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Re: Cardiologist and Chelation

Tom,

I have to agree with you about doctors. We are conditioned thru out
life to listen to them unconditionally. Ask them a question and
they quickly become defensive. It's not until they give you so much
conflicting 'advice' and/or your health deteriorates under their
care do you start to question them.

If you follow your current regiment of Chelation, exercise, diet and
supplements your blood and vessels should be pristene. Isn't the
stem cell stuff they are doing to repair heart muscle. I might see
you in Thailand. They tell me that mine was pretty damaged. When I
came out of bypass surgery the surgeon told my family that there was
evidence of a heart attack prior to the one that hospitalized me in
May.

Of course the western medical view is that heart damage can not be
repaired. I am hoping to prove them wrong. I don't expect a
perfect heart but some major improvement would be prayers answered.

As far as the weather is concerned.....what size coat do you wear.
I'll send you a coat down there ASAP. At 57 degrees we wouldn't want
you to suffer frost bite.

Jon


--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, Mr Tudo <mrtudo1955@...>
wrote:
>
> Jon,
>
> Nah, they just went to chopping me open like an oyster. No
stents and I'm frankly not real motivated to try those if I go
negative. I think I'd prefer giving the stem cell treatment in
Thailand a shot first.
>
> I do not have a high opinion of these doctors. I used to. I
don't anymore.
>
> It was chilly here in S Fla you know. My Wife and I even wore
sweatshirts tonight! I think it was down to 57 degrees! Yikes!
>
> Heheh
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> gravelygarage <gravelygarage@...> wrote:
> You are one lucky man. A low pill count and high outside
> tempertures. It is 3 degrees outside right now! Our dog is sitting
> by the heater with his legs crossed. He said he was going to hold
> it until it warms up. Tom, did you ever have a stent or did you go
> straight to surgery?
>
> --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, Mr Tudo <mrtudo1955@>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was diagnosed as needing open heart surgery and having
> vascular problems ( 100% totally blocked femoral in right leg, 90%
> blocked common illiac in left ), the cardiologist packed a little
> brown paper bag for me . In it was samples of Toprol beta
blockers,
> plavix, lipitor and prescriptions for all of them.
> >
> > I passed on the beta blockers and plavix. I took the lipitor for
> a couple of months and then stopped it as I was having muscle
pains.
> >
> > I take 80mg of asprin a day and several suppliments per my Wife
> and chelation Doc.
> >
> > That is it.
> >
> > Rgrds
> > Tom
> > Port Charlotte Fla
> >





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Hello group, I am just beginning Chelation therapy to help with my heart condition (s). My cardiologist doesn't think much of supplements let alone Chelation....
gravelygarage
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Jan 31, 2007
7:54 pm

Hey Jon, Welcome and hope you don't mind some questions. Why are you seeing a cardiologist every 2 months? What's the situation with your heart and vascular ? ...
mrtudo1955
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Feb 1, 2007
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Tom, I answered you yesterday morning but my reply never showed up so if two happen to appear that is why. I had a heart attack May 26, 06 and got a medicated...
gravelygarage
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hey Jon, Quite an adventure eh? I hope the chelation has positive effects for you. I've had more than 50 sessions thus far, and I started after having a single...
Mr Tudo
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Feb 3, 2007
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Tom, I was in the Navy so I thought that I had my adventure behind me. LOL. You know as hard as it has been on me it has been even more difficult on my...
gravelygarage
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Feb 3, 2007
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LOL, trade locations? Sorry Jon haha. I couldn't walk 1/10th mile without a lot of pain and much further than that, I'd be leaning against my Wife, just...
Mr Tudo
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hmmm, so bone chilling freezing weather doesn't sound stimulating to you? It's so cold out the dog says he'll learn to flush the toilet instead of going out! ...
gravelygarage
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Feb 3, 2007
3:44 pm

Tom Ruley again. I'm off the cigs since March '05. Soon two years. My blood is thin and slippery. Not thick and sticky. Oh yeah, I meant to ask Jon, What med...
Tom Ruley
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hi Jon, Hi Tom, Tom Ruley in Baltimore here. Welcome to the group Jon. Me: Age 55. Weight 184. Retired. I had a MI January '97. Three angioplasties, eight...
Tom Ruley
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hi Tom, Nice to meet you. I heard that Plavix was required for 'just' a year after the stents where implanted. I can't find the specific website but I am...
gravelygarage
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Feb 3, 2007
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Jon wrote: I can't find the specific website but I am pretty sure the drug that I take that list Sudden Cardiac Death as a possible side effect is Imdur. Hi...
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Feb 4, 2007
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Fran, Thanks for the site info. I have just recently started taking a handful of supplements including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg included in...
gravelygarage
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Jon wrote: Supplements: including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg included in some Cardio concoctions I take. In the last couple of days I've had...
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When I was diagnosed as needing open heart surgery and having vascular problems ( 100% totally blocked femoral in right leg, 90% blocked common illiac in left...
Mr Tudo
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Feb 4, 2007
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You are one lucky man. A low pill count and high outside tempertures. It is 3 degrees outside right now! Our dog is sitting by the heater with his legs...
gravelygarage
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Feb 4, 2007
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Jon, Nah, they just went to chopping me open like an oyster. No stents and I'm frankly not real motivated to try those if I go negative. I think I'd prefer...
Mr Tudo
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Feb 4, 2007
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Tom, I have to agree with you about doctors. We are conditioned thru out life to listen to them unconditionally. Ask them a question and they quickly become...
gravelygarage
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Feb 4, 2007
2:40 pm

Hey Jon, BRRRR it's cold today. Y'all must be sending us a winter present. It was 55 when I got up today and the high today is only supposed to be 67! Freezing...
Mr Tudo
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Tom, I'm sending you a couple of sled dogs in case the temperature drops below 50. I'd hate to see you get stuck out in those conditions! You are exactly...
gravelygarage
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Feb 4, 2007
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One comment on Toprol (beta blocker). A while back, I came across an article review on blood pressure lowering medications and how they affect all cause ...
steve
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Feb 4, 2007
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Steve, who the heck is sticking you with that needle and missing? This is an RN? I could get downright nasty over that if it happened on a regular basis. The...
Mr Tudo
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... That was a typo - it should PlaqueX. You should be able to google that one and have it work. ... Utah. Steve ... -- Steve - dudescholar3@... "A...
steve
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... Tom, My chelation doctor has me alternating thru 3 different chelation therapies. Electrolyte Balancing, Plaquex and a Three Minute IV Push. Here's the...
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Feb 4, 2007
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The cardio concoctions are NOT prescription but are purchased through my new doctor. One of them is an oral chelation and another is Cardio-Plus which has C,...
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