One comment on Toprol (beta blocker). A while back, I came across an article
review on blood pressure lowering medications and how they affect all cause
mortality. One would think that it would decrease mortality. The results
were mixed. Some drugs only worked to decrease mortality when combined with
other drugs. What stood out in the article was that Toprol decreased
mortality in a very statistically significant way below that of a normal
healthy population. In other words, people with cardiovascular problems who
took toprol lived longer than people without cardiovascular problems. The
average dosage of toprol was 200 mg/day. There is no way I could take 200
mg/day without my heart slooooooooowing way down. I manage my toprol intake
depending on the level of stress in my life (and my blood pressure varies by
the seasons) so that I keep a blood pressure of 115/75. That averages out to
75 mg/day of toprol xl for me. Ace inhibitors were additive in that when
taken with a beta blocker, they improved mortality rates. I also take a
small dosage of an ace inhibitor.

Plavix caused lots bruising for me and I took it about a year. I now take 325
mg/day of asprin, a solution that has almost the same effect as plavix
without the side effects or cost.

I have 4 medicated stents placed after a heart attack. I went ahead and had
chelation therapy, the 30 sessions, and am now taking about 1 a month
maintenence and have had a total of 37. I also had 25 sessions of plavix
therapy. I didn't notice anything from either EDTA or Plavix since I don't
have angina but I figured it in as preventative insurance. What I don't like
is when it takes them 2-3 times to get a vein or the needle pulls out
slightly during the session and the EDTA goes in outside of the vein - boy is
that painful.

Steve

On Saturday 03 February 2007 7:45 pm, Mr Tudo wrote:
> When I was diagnosed as needing open heart surgery and having vascular
> problems ( 100% totally blocked femoral in right leg, 90% blocked common
> illiac in left ), the cardiologist packed a little brown paper bag for me .
> In it was samples of Toprol beta blockers, plavix, lipitor and
> prescriptions for all of them.
>
> I passed on the beta blockers and plavix. I took the lipitor for a couple
> of months and then stopped it as I was having muscle pains.
>
> I take 80mg of asprin a day and several suppliments per my Wife and
> chelation Doc.
>
> That is it.
>
> Rgrds
> Tom
> Port Charlotte Fla
>
>
>
> Fran <sos.owner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jon wrote:
> Supplements: including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg
> included in some Cardio concoctions I take. In the last couple of
> days I've had increased arrythmia and dizzyness. I also am supposed to
> wear a .4mg/hr nitro patch.
>
> Am I getting a nitro/niacin overdose? It lets up when I skip the
> niacin. I guess I need a prescription adjustment.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Jon,
>
> This from MedlinePlus: Niacin
>
> Nitrates (e.g., nitroglycerin and isosorbide)—Niacin may increase the
> effects of these medications or may have increased side effects when
> these drugs are given together.
>
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202404.html
>
> Is the 'Cardio concoctions' prescription or OTC?
>
> I'm very leary of taking anything that contains numerous ingredients.
> If you experience adverse effects, it's difficult to determine the cause.
>
> Make a list of all your supplements and prescriptions, including the
> dosage. Search (Google or Yahoo) one of the scripts against the others
> and with the OTC's. I had to do this with my mother-in-law last
> summer. She took one OTC that contained 30 different ingredients.
> Three were in direct conflict with her BP meds. She was a mess. I (and
> her Dr) thought she had lupus. Actually, she did, but it was 'drug'
> induced. Once we got rid of the offenders, the rash (all over her
> body) cleared.
>
> Fran
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be nice to the people on the way up....cause you'll meet the same people on
> the way down. Ralph Kramden
>
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