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Re: Cardiologist and Chelation

The cardio concoctions are NOT prescription but are purchased
through my new doctor. One of them is an oral chelation and another
is Cardio-Plus which has C, E, Riboflavin, Niacin, B6, Selenium and
Potassium in it. The oral chelation is called Essential Daily
Defense which was formulated by Dr Gordon if you are familiar with
him.

My new doc told me we'd have to make some adjustments but I didn't
think it would be this soon.

I went thru the Googling when I was on coumadin trying to find
supplements, food, TV programs, and music that didn't interact in
some way with coumadin. Ok, I might be exagerating just a bit but
coumadin interfered with EVERYTHING.

I try not to make too many changes all at once. The VERY best
change I made was getting off the Lipitor. That was 3 weeks ago and
still have side effects but feeling SO much better. I hope they
eventually go away. The muscle cramps in the legs are better.

I'll put a call in to the doctor on Monday to see about adjusting
the dose of the isosorbide and maybe reducing the time I wear the
patch.

Thanks for all the help. I read a little blurb on a website that
chelation and Linus Paulings vitamin C therapy won't work with a
medicated stent. I have a single medicated stent but it was bypassed
when I had surgery. I also know that not everything you read on a
website is true. I tried googling that but couldn't find anything
definitive that I could understand. Any thoughts?

Thanks again,
Jon

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Fran" <sos.owner@...>
wrote:
>
> Jon wrote:
> Supplements: including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg
> included in some Cardio concoctions I take. In the last couple of
> days I've had increased arrythmia and dizzyness. I also am
supposed to
> wear a .4mg/hr nitro patch.
>
> Am I getting a nitro/niacin overdose? It lets up when I skip the
> niacin. I guess I need a prescription adjustment.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Jon,
>
> This from MedlinePlus: Niacin
>
> Nitrates (e.g., nitroglycerin and isosorbide)—Niacin may increase
the
> effects of these medications or may have increased side effects
when
> these drugs are given together.
>
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202404.html
>
> Is the 'Cardio concoctions' prescription or OTC?
>
> I'm very leary of taking anything that contains numerous
ingredients.
> If you experience adverse effects, it's difficult to determine the
cause.
>
> Make a list of all your supplements and prescriptions, including
the
> dosage. Search (Google or Yahoo) one of the scripts against the
others
> and with the OTC's. I had to do this with my mother-in-law last
> summer. She took one OTC that contained 30 different ingredients.
> Three were in direct conflict with her BP meds. She was a mess. I
(and
> her Dr) thought she had lupus. Actually, she did, but it was 'drug'
> induced. Once we got rid of the offenders, the rash (all over her
> body) cleared.
>
> Fran
>





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