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Re: Cardiologist and Chelation

Hi Tom,

Nice to meet you. I heard that Plavix was required for 'just' a
year after the stents where implanted. I can't find the specific
website but I am pretty sure the drug that I take that list Sudden
Cardiac Death as a possible side effect is Imdur. I should learn to
use the bookmark/favorites button more effectively!

Other than expense I couldn't find a negative reason to NOT give
chelation a try. At this point I am doing anything and everything I
can do to improve my odds. My cardiologist has scared the crap out
of me almost everytime I see him. I'd come home severely depressed
for days. I asked him once how my long term outlook was and he
asked what I considered long term. At the last visit he said he had
good news....I wasn't any worse! HELLO, how about making me
BETTER!!!!

I'm down to 3 prescription cardiac meds as follows:

Amiodarone 200mg 1 X Daily
Imdur 30mg 1 X Daily
Metoprolol 12.5mg 2X Daily

I also take 81mg aspirin and the cardiologist had me on 40mg Lipitor
and a variable dose of coumadin but I don't take either of those
anymore under the care of my 'holistic' doctor. However, including
vitamins and other supplements I take 40 pills a day.

It sounds like you're not too up on exercise. I got religion about
it and diet now. I'm trying to get from 212 down to 185. I gained
almost 25 lbs over the summer and after bypass. I kept gaining
weight until I stopped the Lipitor January 10th. Since then I have
dropped 10 lbs.

If I find the specific website(s) that listed SCD I'll post them
here.

Till Later,
Jon

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Ruley" <captntom@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Jon, Hi Tom,
>
> Tom Ruley in Baltimore here. Welcome to the group Jon.
>
> Me: Age 55. Weight 184. Retired. I had a MI January '97. Three
angioplasties, eight stents, seven medicated.
>
> I have an exercise bike but I am rarely on it. I sit in front of
the computer all day and into the night. I spend some time on the
couch taking a nap or watching TV.
>
> Med regiment is:
>
> Morning;
> Ecotrin 325mg
> Norvasc 5mg
> Zetia 10mg
> Plavix 75mg
> Metoprolol 50mg
>
> Eve;
> Metoprolol 50mg, again
> Nexium 40mg
> Lipitor 40mg
> Remeron 30mg, sleeping pill and anti depressant
>
> Yee Ha!
>
> Tom P sent me a good book on Chelation. By the way Tom, thank you
very much for the book! I know you are concerned about me and want
to help.
>
> Jon, Tom and I have been friends since 1989.
>
> I haven't taken the chelation route yet.
>
> Regards all,
>
> Tom Ruley
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gravelygarage
> To: chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:43 AM
> Subject: [chelationtherapy] Re: Cardiologist and Chelation
>
>
> Hmmm, so bone chilling freezing weather doesn't sound
stimulating to
> you? It's so cold out the dog says he'll learn to flush the
toilet
> instead of going out!
>
> Your improvement is very encouraging. I could do almost a mile
on
> the tread mill but would get angina. I was getting angina
> everyday. Muscle pain from the Lipitor, fatigue and depression
were
> major hurdles that I still fight but not nearly as often.
>
> I haven't had a cigerette since May 26, 06. Everytime I wanted
one I
> just thought about how long the ambulance ride to the hospital
was.
> I've changed my diet considerably, do the treadmill 5 days a
week
> walking 2 minutes, running 2, and back and forth for about 18
> minutes. I like the shadow boxing idea. I'm going to give that a
> try.
>
> I'll have to find the article on strength training again. I may
have
> printed it off. I can't remember where the study was conducted.
>
> I'm 48 and when I told the cardiologist that I didn't feel
$100,000
> or even $10 better after the surgery he said it was surgery NOT
the
> fountain of youth. After I had the surgery and found out it's
side
> effects along with some of the medications side effects I got
mad.
> 100% of bypass patients suffer some type of brain damage! 35%
have
> a lower IQ after bypass. I didn't have IQ to spare. Did anyone
> mention that pre op? NO! I take one medication that one possible
> side effect is Sudden Cardiac Death! That gives me peace of mind!
>
> I have to agree that getting away from western medicine is the
> safest route to go. I generally feel a lot better. I just
started
> taking most of the supplements about 10 days ago and I think the
> Niacin is giving me some arrythmia problems. I also wear a nitro
> patch 12 hours a day so I might be OD'n on nitro/niacin. I'm
playing
> around a little to see if I can solve the arrythmia issue. My
new
> doctor says that we'll get me weaned off of as many prescription
> drugs as possible.
>
> I hope that all the lifestyle changes, the chelation therapy,
etc
> let me feel like I don't have cardiac problems. It sounds like
the
> combination has worked a miracle for you.
>
> Jon
>
> --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, Mr Tudo <mrtudo1955@>
> wrote:
> >
> > LOL, trade locations? Sorry Jon haha.
> >
> > I couldn't walk 1/10th mile without a lot of pain and much
> further than that, I'd be leaning against my Wife, just standing
> there.......in pain for a little while.
> >
> > By the 10-12th intravenous session I walked a mile. No speed
> records broken but a mile nonetheless. I've since walked as many
as
> 8 miles non stop. I believe it's been a combination of a changed
> diet, the cigrarettes have now been gone for 2 years and 1
month,
> the chelation, and steady walking and now I'm sort of shadow
boxing
> while on the treadmill. Man was sore after doing that the first
> time! But every time I'm on the treadmill I do that at least
part of
> the time and I build up quite a sweat doing so.
> >
> > That article on strength training. Is that being reported by
an
> MD in Wellington Fla?
> >
> > If you come to the west coast of Fla on vacation or to get
away
> from Ohio for a while, there's a great place to get chelation
done
> in Punta Gorda. Dr James Coy is the fellow who owns the clinic
and
> he posts here from time to time although the whole forum has
been
> quiet for a few months ( everyone's gotten well?? ). HIs website
is
> http://www.naturalsolutionsmd.net
> >
> > I believe my overall health has improved despite the
> cardiologist stating the bypass surgery has been a failure. Says
> there's abnormal blood flow in the same place that the bypass
was
> done. I cannot tell you how pleased I was to hear that ( I'm
being
> extremly sarcastic about being happy ). I've made some phone
calls
> and even filled out some papers on that one.
> >
> > I just don't see it, feel it. I feel fine. I think to get away
> from these guys is a good thing. At my age ( 52 ), you look hard
> enough for something wrong and you're bound to find it. We're
not
> kids anymore.
> >
> > How do you feel overall?
> >
> > Tom
> >
>





Sat Feb 3, 2007 8:29 pm

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Hey Jon, Welcome and hope you don't mind some questions. Why are you seeing a cardiologist every 2 months? What's the situation with your heart and vascular ? ...
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Tom, I answered you yesterday morning but my reply never showed up so if two happen to appear that is why. I had a heart attack May 26, 06 and got a medicated...
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Hey Jon, Quite an adventure eh? I hope the chelation has positive effects for you. I've had more than 50 sessions thus far, and I started after having a single...
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Tom, I was in the Navy so I thought that I had my adventure behind me. LOL. You know as hard as it has been on me it has been even more difficult on my...
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LOL, trade locations? Sorry Jon haha. I couldn't walk 1/10th mile without a lot of pain and much further than that, I'd be leaning against my Wife, just...
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Hmmm, so bone chilling freezing weather doesn't sound stimulating to you? It's so cold out the dog says he'll learn to flush the toilet instead of going out! ...
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Tom Ruley again. I'm off the cigs since March '05. Soon two years. My blood is thin and slippery. Not thick and sticky. Oh yeah, I meant to ask Jon, What med...
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Hi Jon, Hi Tom, Tom Ruley in Baltimore here. Welcome to the group Jon. Me: Age 55. Weight 184. Retired. I had a MI January '97. Three angioplasties, eight...
Tom Ruley
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Hi Tom, Nice to meet you. I heard that Plavix was required for 'just' a year after the stents where implanted. I can't find the specific website but I am...
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Feb 3, 2007
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Jon wrote: I can't find the specific website but I am pretty sure the drug that I take that list Sudden Cardiac Death as a possible side effect is Imdur. Hi...
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Fran, Thanks for the site info. I have just recently started taking a handful of supplements including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg included in...
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Jon wrote: Supplements: including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg included in some Cardio concoctions I take. In the last couple of days I've had...
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Jon, Nah, they just went to chopping me open like an oyster. No stents and I'm frankly not real motivated to try those if I go negative. I think I'd prefer...
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Hey Jon, BRRRR it's cold today. Y'all must be sending us a winter present. It was 55 when I got up today and the high today is only supposed to be 67! Freezing...
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