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Re: [chelationtherapy] Re: Cardiologist and Chelation

Hey Jon,
 
Quite an adventure eh? I hope the chelation has positive effects for you. I've had more than 50 sessions thus far, and I started after having a single bypass, mammary to lad. I've had great success with my walking distances.
 
Have you looked into stem cell therapy? I'm looking at it as a possible "in the future" kind of thing. There's a couple of websites I can refer you to, http://www.theravitae.com  and http://www.vescell.com  It appears that they are having some real successes with this therapy. It's in Thailand.
 
How low is an EF of 35 ? Above 55 is normal, right? Therefore 35 is not too too bad ??? Mine was 51. The medicated stent is still in your artery??
 
Rgrds
Tom
Port Charlotte, Fl

gravelygarage <gravelygarage@...> wrote:
Tom,

I answered you yesterday morning but my reply never showed up so if
two happen to appear that is why.

I had a heart attack May 26, 06 and got a medicated stent put in
that day and was told that I had blockages that were too severe to
be stented. About all I knew was that they told me that my EF < 20%
and that I needed bypass as soon as I could get off the Plavix they
had me on for the stent.

Before the surgery I asked my cardiologist about chelation and he
told me he didn't know much about it but that it was not proven to
be beneficial for cardiac problems.

I had a triple bypass on Sept 8 and had some 'electrical' problems
that kept me in the hospital for a few extra days. One of the
bypasses was around the stent. Within 6 weeks I was getting angina
again. They started talking about stenting the bypass!

I have learned that my EF is about 35%, my LV has some damage and is
dilated. I have arrythmia.

At my last cardio appointment I had an echo and was told the good
news was I wasn't getting worse and to learn to live with how I
felt. My cardiologist has told me that his education is with drugs,
angioplasty, etc. Not chelation, supplements, yoga, diet, etc.

Since getting off of Lipitor and taking supplements I have felt much
better, have increased my speed and distance on the treadmill and
have a better attitude.

I take oral chelation daily and have had 2 IV chelation treatments
so far.

I'm just not sure what to tell the cardiologist (if anything) since
we have gone round and round regarding non prescription, non
invasive treatments.

I live outside of Cincinnati.

Thanks,
Jon

--- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "mrtudo1955"
<mrtudo1955@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Jon,
>
> Welcome and hope you don't mind some questions. Why are you seeing
a
> cardiologist every 2 months? What's the situation with your heart
and
> vascular ?
>
> What state are you in?
>
> Rgrds
> Tom
>
>
> --- In chelationtherapy@yahoogroups.com, "gravelygarage"
> <gravelygarage@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello group,
> >
> > I am just beginning Chelation therapy to help with my heart
> condition
> > (s). My cardiologist doesn't think much of supplements let
alone
> > Chelation. My question is .... what should I tell him at my
next
> > appointment. My 'new' doctor has me on supplements and off of
> Lipitor
> > and coumadin. I still take some other prescription cardio meds.
I
> > feel better, much better as a matter of fact but at my last
cardio
> > appoint I asked about getting off of Lipitor and coumadin and
was
> told
> > no. Is it possible that my holistic doctor and cardiologist can
> work
> > together? Or is it usually a matter of one OR the other?
Another
> > question.....after chelation should I be seeing my cardiologist
> much
> > less frequently? Currently I see him every other month.
> >
> > Thanks for any input,
> > Jon
> >
>




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Hello group, I am just beginning Chelation therapy to help with my heart condition (s). My cardiologist doesn't think much of supplements let alone Chelation....
gravelygarage
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Jan 31, 2007
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Hey Jon, Welcome and hope you don't mind some questions. Why are you seeing a cardiologist every 2 months? What's the situation with your heart and vascular ? ...
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Feb 1, 2007
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Tom, I answered you yesterday morning but my reply never showed up so if two happen to appear that is why. I had a heart attack May 26, 06 and got a medicated...
gravelygarage
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hey Jon, Quite an adventure eh? I hope the chelation has positive effects for you. I've had more than 50 sessions thus far, and I started after having a single...
Mr Tudo
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Feb 3, 2007
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Tom, I was in the Navy so I thought that I had my adventure behind me. LOL. You know as hard as it has been on me it has been even more difficult on my...
gravelygarage
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Feb 3, 2007
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LOL, trade locations? Sorry Jon haha. I couldn't walk 1/10th mile without a lot of pain and much further than that, I'd be leaning against my Wife, just...
Mr Tudo
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hmmm, so bone chilling freezing weather doesn't sound stimulating to you? It's so cold out the dog says he'll learn to flush the toilet instead of going out! ...
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Feb 3, 2007
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Tom Ruley again. I'm off the cigs since March '05. Soon two years. My blood is thin and slippery. Not thick and sticky. Oh yeah, I meant to ask Jon, What med...
Tom Ruley
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hi Jon, Hi Tom, Tom Ruley in Baltimore here. Welcome to the group Jon. Me: Age 55. Weight 184. Retired. I had a MI January '97. Three angioplasties, eight...
Tom Ruley
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Feb 3, 2007
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Hi Tom, Nice to meet you. I heard that Plavix was required for 'just' a year after the stents where implanted. I can't find the specific website but I am...
gravelygarage
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Feb 3, 2007
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Jon wrote: I can't find the specific website but I am pretty sure the drug that I take that list Sudden Cardiac Death as a possible side effect is Imdur. Hi...
Fran
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Feb 4, 2007
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Fran, Thanks for the site info. I have just recently started taking a handful of supplements including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg included in...
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Jon wrote: Supplements: including Niacin 100mg 3 X daily plus another 100mg included in some Cardio concoctions I take. In the last couple of days I've had...
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When I was diagnosed as needing open heart surgery and having vascular problems ( 100% totally blocked femoral in right leg, 90% blocked common illiac in left...
Mr Tudo
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You are one lucky man. A low pill count and high outside tempertures. It is 3 degrees outside right now! Our dog is sitting by the heater with his legs...
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Feb 4, 2007
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Jon, Nah, they just went to chopping me open like an oyster. No stents and I'm frankly not real motivated to try those if I go negative. I think I'd prefer...
Mr Tudo
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Feb 4, 2007
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Tom, I have to agree with you about doctors. We are conditioned thru out life to listen to them unconditionally. Ask them a question and they quickly become...
gravelygarage
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Feb 4, 2007
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Hey Jon, BRRRR it's cold today. Y'all must be sending us a winter present. It was 55 when I got up today and the high today is only supposed to be 67! Freezing...
Mr Tudo
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Tom, I'm sending you a couple of sled dogs in case the temperature drops below 50. I'd hate to see you get stuck out in those conditions! You are exactly...
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One comment on Toprol (beta blocker). A while back, I came across an article review on blood pressure lowering medications and how they affect all cause ...
steve
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Steve, who the heck is sticking you with that needle and missing? This is an RN? I could get downright nasty over that if it happened on a regular basis. The...
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... That was a typo - it should PlaqueX. You should be able to google that one and have it work. ... Utah. Steve ... -- Steve - dudescholar3@... "A...
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... Tom, My chelation doctor has me alternating thru 3 different chelation therapies. Electrolyte Balancing, Plaquex and a Three Minute IV Push. Here's the...
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Feb 4, 2007
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The cardio concoctions are NOT prescription but are purchased through my new doctor. One of them is an oral chelation and another is Cardio-Plus which has C,...
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