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Re: UK Obesity campaign launched today

Hi Mike!

I would like to post the email i have just sent to Tam Fry, on the CHEAL site.

Having now read Pete's entry - thanks Pete for this - I want to also
say I believe weight gain is different for everyone which is why it is such a
complex and sensitive problem. There are those who, like you Pete, gain weight
at a certain point in life and those like me who had it piling on - 12 stones -
by the age of 12.

I am interested to hear others experiences with this subject as I
intend writing a book about it once I have dealt with my own situation
sufficiently and to my own satisfaction. I may be in the minority but I don't
believe I am the only one with this kind of experience.

Blessings to all

Flick

Dear Mr Fry,

I understand there is to be a drive towards fighting the obesity crisis we are
in.

I would like to share some of my thoughts with you as I myself have
been/am obese from the age of 8 years old. At my heaviest I was 22
stones. In the last 4 years I have lost 7 stones and recently gained
1.5 of them back and about to tackle it again in order to get to the
weight which will be ideal for me. It isn't about junk food, fried
food, sodas; I am a wholefood vegetarian by choice... or about lack of exercise
- gym 5 times a week. It's something else.

As you can imagine, the whole subject of obesity is very close to my
heart. It is a subject so little understood and therefore tackled
mainly from an "endgain" perspective; making efforts from the outside, shooting
for the goal when in fact the root of the problems lie within.

My whole argument is that, as far as I understand, no one is putting
money into the bodymind connection on this subject. In 1979/80 I was a research
subject at the Dunn nutritional clinic at Addenbrookes
Hospital and was making the same point then! As a an Energy therapist
and in training as a body psychotherapist I have looked at this from a
psychological, energetic perspective; what the body does in response to the
mind.

Why do some people gain weight in one area of the body whereas another gains
weight elsewhere? It is, in my opinion, due to the primary psychological
wounding which is then embodied. So why do we see family members with weight
gain in similar areas? Because it is a family wound carried through from
generation to generation.

All we need do is look at the person who is repeatedly suffering from
depression. The body collapses and, over a period of time this becomes the
habitual body posture. The body speaks what the psyche knows. If this is the
case here why then is it not obvious that the mind influences how the body
metabolises food?

Obviously the actual act of consuming food cannot be ruled out of the
equation but is far from being the whole story. Obese people are
marginalised, demonised and regarded as being greedy, stupid,
animalistic and a whole host of other unpleasant labels. I know because I have
been on the receiving end of this.

I would like to ask you what you understand from the things I am
suggesting and what if anything the Obesity Forum is doing or is
prepared to do to address this aspect of the very much needed research.

kind regards,

Felicity Cook






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Michael, ... While most people support the aims of Make Poverty History, I think we must face facts: as a campaign it is essentially a complete failure. There...
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Hi Mike! I would like to post the email i have just sent to Tam Fry, on the CHEAL site. Having now read Pete's entry - thanks Pete for this - I want to also ...
Felicity Cook
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Hi Felicity, Unless you are blood type A then you'll not be as healthy as you could be on a vegetarian diet. Have you looked at www.dadamo.com and his books...
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Hi Joyce, ... If I click "The Science" I get a list of articles about human biology, but none of them seem relevant to the Blood Type Diet. One looks as...
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Hi Joyce, thanks for your post. This is my second go at replying as the first disappeared into the ether as my computer died! Yes, am familiar with his ideas....
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Hi Flick and Pete, BT diet is really a misnomer - it isn't really about eating to lose weight, though that is usually what happens when you only eat foods ...
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Hi Joyce, ... Fair enough. Weight loss seems to be one of the diet's selling points, though. If I click "Blood Type Diet" on the front page of dadamo.com, I...
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Hi Felicity, ... Thank you for your post too! I'm sure you're right that it's a complex and sensitive problem; probably this is why the government's campaigns...
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Hi Pete, thanks for your very positive reply AND for hearing what I'm trying to say! ... Interestingly, other people in my family have had the same experience...
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Hi Flick, ... I'm not sure I understand this completely. Are you saying that genes influence thought patterns, so they might make various people in my family...
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Thanks for your post, Pete, and insights into the genetic aspects of body mass. When Flick wrote "the genes are indeed effected by patterns in the family...
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We are too acidic!!!!! Almost everything the modern diet includes is acidic. This is why we are so obese. If we could raise the pH of our body, then our body...
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Interetsingly, I tested myself a few months ago for acidity and It was in the normal range.... I did it shortly after coming off the diet progamme i was on at...
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Hi Karaionizes, ... It's quite easy to raise the pH of your body temporarily, though I wouldn't recommend trying it. Just breathe very rapidly for a little...
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Hello there, Exercise does increase your pH or how you call it, hyperventilating. Raising your body's heart rate and increasing oxygen is a good idea, but not...
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Hi Kara, ... If you hyperventilate, you reduce the amount of carbon dioxide which is in your blood, and this makes your system more alkaline. On the other...
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Bill Snape is unable to post directly just now, but has asked me to pass on these observations.... "Pete is quite correct in what he says, pH is tightly...
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Hello there, Let me quickly point out that OH- is not a hydroxyl free radical, so you can't go on with this argument. OH- is a free radical scavenger. A...
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Hello there, Kara. I hope you don't think me pedantic but a radical is a group of two or more atoms that under normal circumstamnces are incapable of...
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... is a group of two or more atoms that under normal circumstamnces are ... Hey there, here is the reply from my close friend Dr. Peter Kopko. I hope this...
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Hi Kara, ... So you've changed lots of things and now you feel better? Of course I'm pleased for you, but it doesn't tell us whether it would work for anyone...
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Lemons are acidic, Pete, pH aprox 2.2 to 2.4. In fact most things we eat are acidic including (quite surprisingly) cow's milk pH approx 6.3 to 6.6. One of a...
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... Here is one example of a pH chart for food: http://www.trans4mind.com/nutrition/pH.html Once again, lemons are alkaline forming once in the body because of...
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Hello there, ... excrete. ... We can also ... danger of ... Using this concept, we could also say that the body would take care of all of it's problems, that...
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Hello Kara, whilst I appreciate you probably know your subject far better than I do or anyone else who hasn't actually studied it from the inside, I would like...
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Hi Kara, ... The problem is, you're starting out by assuming that an acidic diet is unnatural. You are then assuming that the body's mechanism for dealing...
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The modern, acidic diet is unnatural. Is drinking soda natural? What about alcohol? The pH of soda is 2.5. Take the experiment of cleaning a dirty penny...
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Hi Kara, How does a highly acidic lemon become alkaine when eaten? In fact all fruits are acidic, something to do with the CITRIC ACID content, do they all...
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... How does a highly acidic lemon become alkaine when eaten? In fact all fruits are acidic, something to do with the CITRIC ACID content, do they all become...
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Hi Mike, ... I can see that this is possible. You could oxidise the citric acid, for example, which would remove its acidic properties. We have laws like ...
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