Hi Guys,
Years ago I tried a popular dating service in the Washington D.C. area.  I was a
professional at the time and I thought that I was a  good catch.  The manager
asked to speak with me, told me that  their previous clients with disabilities
had had poor experiences and politely refunded my  money.  I was devastated but
felt that he was being sincere.

The happy ending is that I met my wife doing theater several years after that. 
But I've often wondered how dating sties, like eharmony and match.com handle
clients with disabilities?  My wife isn't disabled but we share many common
interests and values.  Would eharmony point me to her or rule me out because of
my disability?

Curious Chris

So good to hear from you!  I miss all the post we use to have on here!
Glad to hear Ms. Moriah is doing great.
James is doing really well right now.  He started Kindergarten on Aug.
13th.  Real tear jerker for me!  He is loving it, he is in an inclusive
classroom during the morning hours and for the academics he goes to the
resource(spec. ed) room in the afternoon.  He is really working hard on
his walking, he's doing super on his arm cruthces!  Also, I can feel
God working and I can just feel that he will soon walk independtly, he
actually has taken a step by himself, just one, but I'll take it!
The SDR surgery was absolutely a God send for James.  It has made such
a difference in his quality of life.  He also recently had strabismus
surgery on his left eye, and Praise God that went well.
I am learning what alot of parents of special needs children have said
about the school, we really have to be our child's advocate!  After his
2nd day of kindergarten the teachers assistant in his room made a
comment to me that James needs might be better met in the resource room
all day.  I just politely told her that he needed to be given ample
opportunity to prove himself and adjust to the classroom.  UGH. The
first week of school was hard!  But, after speaking to the principal,
teacher and the central school office people we have things all clear
now!
Hope everyone is doing well!  It's been forever since I posted, so
sorry this is so long!
Have a great Labor Day!
Sharon


--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "temp_mom"
<temp_mom@...> wrote:
>
> hi everyone doing ok ? well ive been off line for a while.but have
use
> of a labtop.sharon how is your little one.moriah is great. my
daughter
> moved home she finished radation and one set of the cemo pill snd
will
> start another the 25th they sure make her sick. she has to go back to
> fort worth on the 30th for a scan to see if the cancer has srunk.
keep
> her in your prayers.have missed the room looks like there is unwanted
> guest again .
>

Who?  Me and Chris?

<temp_mom@...> wrote:

>...have missed the room looks like there is unwanted
guest again . <

Just kidding.

We continue to keep Fancee in our prayers.
And you too.


Tim

hi everyone doing ok ? well ive been off line for a while.but have use
of a labtop.sharon how is your little one.moriah is great. my daughter
moved home she finished radation and one set of the cemo pill snd will
start another the 25th they sure make her sick. she has to go back to
fort worth on the 30th for a scan to see if the cancer has srunk. keep
her in your prayers.have missed the room looks like there is unwanted
guest again .

Thank you, Chris, for taking the time to help me understand a little
bit better.  Some times I feel like learning all that I need to know
is like putting together a puzzle.  Thanks for helping me find and
fit some of the pieces.

I don't know how true it is or if its in your interest,
but I hear that in Virginia, around the D.C. area, they
are hiring all the engineers they can find. ???

I heard on the radio, for what that may be worth, the biggest
area of need as for engineers is currently in the cement area.
Again, I don't know how true these are.  I'm just a Dad and
a bread man myself.

Best of luck on your job search.  We'll keep you in our thoughts.

Tim Affholter
Thian's Dad
thiansdad@...

Hey, thanks for the interest.  I'm trying to find an engineering job
and almost every time I apply for a job online I have to fill out
a "Optional" demographic questioner.  They ask my sex, race, etc.
They never ask if I have a disability, which is distressing because
people with disabilities have the highest unemployment by far.

Most people with moderate to severe disabilities apply for, and get,
social security (disability) income, which is what I meant by
a "poverty stipend " .  The great problem with SSDI is that you early
earn minimal outside income before they take it away and you're
screwed.

I knew a woman who had MS who could only move her face.  But that was
okay because she was a writer.  She wanted to buy a sophisticated
computer to help write but she could earn what it cost because that
would disqualify her for SSDI which she relied on.  Fortunately, her
church passed the hat around and bought it for her.  This is one of
many examples that I could personally site.  (This is also a blatant
argument for establishing a negative income tax for people with
disabilities.)

So what happens when you're poor and have nowhere to live; you live
in government subsidized housing, commonly known as Section VIII.  I
hear that Section VIII requires lots of paperwork so most landlords
don't bother with it.  So people with disabilities often live in
large Section VIII housing complexes.  It's like the projects for
disabilities, if you still don't live with your parents.

So there's really little way to get ahead if you have a disability,
unless you are extremely talented, determined or both.

Most of us have real economic disadvantages, we admit it.  We just
want a reasonable chance to make a living doing whatever we do best.

End of rant.
Chris

--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Affholter"
<thiansdad@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Chris, (and others)
>
> I am very ignorant on this subject.  Please help me to
> understand what you are going through and what it is
> that I can do to help.
>
> Here is the first of my "stupid " questions:
>
> 1. "demograhic information" ?
> Are you referring to job applications?
>
> 2. What is a "poverty stipend" ?
>
> 3. I've heard the term "section eight" in referance
> to housing, but what is it?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tim Affholter
> Parent and My Sons's Advocate
> Thiansdad@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "batymohn"
> <batymohn@> wrote:
> >
> > This is something that I sent to my congress people after filling
> out
> > demographic information for the hundredth time.   May be if we
all
> > write them we can make a small change?
> >
> > Elected Officials,
> >
> > I am one of the few people with a disabilities who has a
> professional
> > degree.  I have been looking for jobs and I am sick of filling
out
> > demographic information that doesn't include disability.  WHY
NOT?
> Is
> > the government afraid of finding out how under-employed we really
> are?
> > Or is the government content to give us a poverty stipend and
> segregate
> > us in Section VIII housing?
> >
> > Sincerely.
> >
> > Chris Baty
> >
> > Your constituent.
> >
>

Dear Chris, (and others)

I am very ignorant on this subject.  Please help me to
understand what you are going through and what it is
that I can do to help.

Here is the first of my "stupid " questions:

1. "demograhic information" ?
Are you referring to job applications?

2. What is a "poverty stipend" ?

3. I've heard the term "section eight" in referance
to housing, but what is it?

Thank you,

Tim Affholter
Parent and My Sons's Advocate
Thiansdad@...






--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "batymohn"
<batymohn@...> wrote:
>
> This is something that I sent to my congress people after filling
out
> demographic information for the hundredth time.   May be if we  all
> write them we can make a small change?
>
> Elected Officials,
>
> I am one of the few people with a disabilities who has a
professional
> degree.  I have been looking for jobs and I am sick of filling out
> demographic information that doesn't include disability.  WHY NOT?
Is
> the government afraid of finding out how under-employed we really
are?
> Or is the government content to give us a poverty stipend and
segregate
> us in Section VIII housing?
>
> Sincerely.
>
> Chris Baty
>
> Your constituent.
>

This is something that I sent to my congress people after filling out
demographic information for the hundredth time.   May be if we  all
write them we can make a small change?

Elected Officials,

I am one of the few people with a disabilities who has a professional
degree.  I have been looking for jobs and I am sick of filling out
demographic information that doesn't include disability.  WHY NOT?  Is
the government afraid of finding out how under-employed we really are?
Or is the government content to give us a poverty stipend and segregate
us in Section VIII housing?

Sincerely.

Chris Baty

Your constituent.

--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <smjball@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, it looks like once we got the nasty talkers off, now we have
some
> new friends visiting our site.
> It seemed like we went for so long w/out any of this junk on our
site,
> and then in the last few months we are being hit w/alot of spam!
> I do hope all of you Mom's have a wonderful Mothers Day!
> God Bless you all!
>
  HI everyone,
just wanted to wish everyone a happy mother's day!
hope everyone is doing well.
God Bless,
Leanne

Well, it looks like once we got the nasty talkers off, now we have some
new friends visiting our site.
It seemed like we went for so long w/out any of this junk on our site,
and then in the last few months we are being hit w/alot of spam!
I do hope all of you Mom's have a wonderful Mothers Day!
God Bless you all!

I know that there are times that we can help and be a blessing to
others. I have a wheelchair and a walker that my son can no longer use.
If anyone can use these for their child please let me know. Thanks

Thanks so much for the info. I did apply through the ARC and spoke to a
Ms. Noto. I applied for CAP, I will call her and ask her to apply for
the CAP+ program and we will try again. I am sick and tired of the
loops and hoops we must go through for our kids and CP has none to
little info out there. I am going to just keep on keeping on. God bless
you and yours and thanks for passing your infor on. Lynne

Check on CAP-MRDD, we have that here in NC and it is supposed to be for
those who fall through the loops.  Also, keep appealing the CAP
denials.  You have the right to do that.
We have just signed up through an agency called ARC and they become
your case manager, they told me they would apply for CAP for our son.
Here in NC there is a very long list, but keep on trying and keep
appealing.  It's crazy at the hoops they make us parents of special
needs kids jump through, also do you have a psyche exam to send them?

Best of luck to you!


--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "mommie_lynne"
<mommie_lynne@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all. I need help and information. I applied for CAP for my son
which
> has CP and we have been denied for the second time> I just don't get
> it. He has CP and has been diagnoised with MR. I have had a hard time
> trying to get services for him. He falls through every kind of loop
> hole there is. I am fifty years old and has damaged my hand lifting
him
> and pulling on him trying to do all the work I can in helping him to
> become as independent as possible. I am so tired and being a single
> parent makes it even harder sometimes. Does anyone have any
suggestions
> on what I can try next???
> Thanks and Holla
>

Hi all. I need help and information. I applied for CAP for my son which
has CP and we have been denied for the second time> I just don't get
it. He has CP and has been diagnoised with MR. I have had a hard time
trying to get services for him. He falls through every kind of loop
hole there is. I am fifty years old and has damaged my hand lifting him
and pulling on him trying to do all the work I can in helping him to
become as independent as possible. I am so tired and being a single
parent makes it even harder sometimes. Does anyone have any suggestions
on what I can try next???
Thanks and Holla

Our family will continue to lift Fancee up in prayers and know that
healing will come her way.

I am so happy also that the spam is gone!  A big Thank You to the
person that removed it!

Hope everyones precious children are doing great!

Sharon

--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "temp_mom"
<temp_mom@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All. Just wanted to tell you that the doctors say my daughter
> Fancee has melanoma of the brain and lungs, the good news is that
> there isnt any in the lymth noles or bones they are oppitimistic that
> they can get it control with cemo and radation . She starts next
week.
> keep her in your prayers.. God is so good! Im already thanking him
for
> everything he ia doing in her life.so nice not to have to sift thru
> that trash in this group anymore..
>

Hi All. Just wanted to tell you that the doctors say my daughter
Fancee has melanoma of the brain and lungs, the good news is that
there isnt any in the lymth noles or bones they are oppitimistic that
they can get it control with cemo and radation . She starts next week.
keep her in your prayers.. God is so good! Im already thanking him for
everything he ia doing in her life.so nice not to have to sift thru
that trash in this group anymore..

The Alexis character and related messages have been removed from the
group.  Sorry for the delay in doing so.  From now on, memberships
will need to be approved.  Hopefully, this will minimize future spam.

Adam

---
Hey, thanks for the encouragement. It's a hard and long road. I know he
is tired and the work is so painful for him. I pray that I can continue
to be strong for his sake but there are those times when I know that
only God is at work cause I'm just to tired.
Holla




  In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "ga_girl_w_attitude"
<ga_girl_w_attitude@...> wrote:
>
> I know how tough that this can be my son had surgery on his legs he
was
> uncomfortable for the first couple of days and then he slowly got
> better.  I hope that your son has a speedy recovery.
> > >
>

HI everyone,
I have a question does anyone know much about gj tubes, if so i would
be interested.I am having trouble getting accurate information.
my son has a g-tube and he vomits frequently and the doctor wants him
to have a gj tube and we have some concerns.

thanks,
Leanne

HI everyone,
I have a question does anyone know much about gj tubes, if so i would
be interested.I am having trouble getting accurate information.
my son has a g-tube and he vomits frequently and the doctor wants him
to have a gj tube and we have some concerns.

thanks,
Leanne

HI  everyone,
I have a question does anyone know much about gj tubes, if so i would
be interested.I am having trouble getting accurate information.
my son has a g-tube and he vomits frequently and the doctor wants him
to have a gj tube and we have some concerns.

thanks,
Leanne

NO NEWS YET WAS WITH HER LAST WEEKEND AND SHE SLEPT MOST OF THE
TIME.. IM HOLDING ON TO THE PROMICE FROM GOD BELIEVE AND HE WILL
GIVE YOU THE DESIRES OF YOUR HEART AND IM SURE WHAT THAT IS FOR ME
AND MINE ... THANKS FOR THE PRAYERS.. LET ME KNOW ABOUT A NEW GROUP
WITHOUT TRASH TALKERS--- In
cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <smjball@...> wrote:
>
> Leanne,
> I'm going to ask a friend of mine who set up a local yahoo group
for
> some mothers where my son gets therapy and see how we can set up
our
> own group, like we had here before all this crap got on there from
> these vulgar talking idiots.  Sorry, they are really getting on my
> nerves.  I wanna get on here and talk about our kids.  If anyone
> knows how we can set up our own yahoo group and do it by invite
only,
> then we can select who comes on it and verify that they are not
> spammers.
> Sandra, hope Fancee is doing lots better and got a good report,
she
> has been in my prayers, please update us on her!
> Hope everyone has a great weekend!
> Sharon
>
> --- In
cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "quadriplegiccpmommy"
> <quadriplegiccpmommy@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "Jena" <holmanj@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Also have the posts monitored before they go to the group and
> > delete her. A
> > > new group might just be the answer. Jena
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sharon" <smjball@>
> > > To: <cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:12 PM
> > > Subject: [cerebral_palsy_support] Question
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm not sure if we have any computer savy people on here(I'm
> sure
> > we
> > > > do, I'm just not one of them).  But this Alexis Sabry that
is
> > sending
> > > > post is getting on my nerves.
> > > >
> > > > I do know that we could start our own private yahoo support
> group
> > and
> > > > someone could be the moderator or there could be several
> > moderators and
> > > > it would be by invitation only.  This would stop all this
spam
> > and junk
> > > > from Alexis Sabry from being on what I feel is a very
important
> > sight
> > > > for us parents with cp kids.
> > > >
> > > > We need each other support and encouragement, not a bunch of
> > > > advertisements.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone knows how to do this or if you guys would be
> interested,
> > > > let's check into this.
> > > > Take Care!
> > > > Sharon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I totally agree with you sharon,
> > I thought we had a really good group but now i am feeling quite
> > discouraged and if this doesn't stop soon, I might quit the
group
> but
> > it is nice to feel like you have someone to talk to who knows
what
> > you are going through.I don't why this person is talking like
this
> > when this is supposed to be a support group for parents who have
a
> > child with cp,when a person has to talk like this it sure shows
the
> > lack of maturity!!
> > hope everyone is doing well.
> > Leanne
> > >
> >
>

Leanne,
I'm going to ask a friend of mine who set up a local yahoo group for
some mothers where my son gets therapy and see how we can set up our
own group, like we had here before all this crap got on there from
these vulgar talking idiots.  Sorry, they are really getting on my
nerves.  I wanna get on here and talk about our kids.  If anyone
knows how we can set up our own yahoo group and do it by invite only,
then we can select who comes on it and verify that they are not
spammers.
Sandra, hope Fancee is doing lots better and got a good report, she
has been in my prayers, please update us on her!
Hope everyone has a great weekend!
Sharon

--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "quadriplegiccpmommy"
<quadriplegiccpmommy@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "Jena" <holmanj@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Also have the posts monitored before they go to the group and
> delete her. A
> > new group might just be the answer. Jena
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sharon" <smjball@>
> > To: <cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:12 PM
> > Subject: [cerebral_palsy_support] Question
> >
> >
> > > I'm not sure if we have any computer savy people on here(I'm
sure
> we
> > > do, I'm just not one of them).  But this Alexis Sabry that is
> sending
> > > post is getting on my nerves.
> > >
> > > I do know that we could start our own private yahoo support
group
> and
> > > someone could be the moderator or there could be several
> moderators and
> > > it would be by invitation only.  This would stop all this spam
> and junk
> > > from Alexis Sabry from being on what I feel is a very important
> sight
> > > for us parents with cp kids.
> > >
> > > We need each other support and encouragement, not a bunch of
> > > advertisements.
> > >
> > > If anyone knows how to do this or if you guys would be
interested,
> > > let's check into this.
> > > Take Care!
> > > Sharon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I totally agree with you sharon,
> I thought we had a really good group but now i am feeling quite
> discouraged and if this doesn't stop soon, I might quit the group
but
> it is nice to feel like you have someone to talk to who knows what
> you are going through.I don't why this person is talking like this
> when this is supposed to be a support group for parents who have a
> child with cp,when a person has to talk like this it sure shows the
> lack of maturity!!
> hope everyone is doing well.
> Leanne
> >
>

--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "Jena" <holmanj@...>
wrote:
>
> Also have the posts monitored before they go to the group and
delete her. A
> new group might just be the answer. Jena
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sharon" <smjball@...>
> To: <cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:12 PM
> Subject: [cerebral_palsy_support] Question
>
>
> > I'm not sure if we have any computer savy people on here(I'm sure
we
> > do, I'm just not one of them).  But this Alexis Sabry that is
sending
> > post is getting on my nerves.
> >
> > I do know that we could start our own private yahoo support group
and
> > someone could be the moderator or there could be several
moderators and
> > it would be by invitation only.  This would stop all this spam
and junk
> > from Alexis Sabry from being on what I feel is a very important
sight
> > for us parents with cp kids.
> >
> > We need each other support and encouragement, not a bunch of
> > advertisements.
> >
> > If anyone knows how to do this or if you guys would be interested,
> > let's check into this.
> > Take Care!
> > Sharon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >I totally agree with you sharon,
I thought we had a really good group but now i am feeling quite
discouraged and if this doesn't stop soon, I might quit the group but
it is nice to feel like you have someone to talk to who knows what
you are going through.I don't why this person is talking like this
when this is supposed to be a support group for parents who have a
child with cp,when a person has to talk like this it sure shows the
lack of maturity!!
hope everyone is doing well.
Leanne
>

Will be lifting her name up in prayer and binding cancer in Jesus
Name!
Prayers are with you!

--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "temp_mom"
<temp_mom@...> wrote:
>
>  I have a update on my Daughter Fancee .The drs found not 2 lesions
in
> her brain they found 5 one in the front 4 in the back one being
rather
> deep.They say it came from some place else they did a catscan and
they
> found two more one in each lung the size of a pea and nickle they
are
> going to do a biopsey today please pray in agreement that they will
> find NO CANCER!!!!!! AMEN WE NEED THE WORD TO SPREAD AND PRAYERS TO
> FLOW LIKE WATER THANKS ALL  HER NAME IS fANCEE oTERO SHE IS SAVE
BUT
> NOT SERVING--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "kzeien"
> <Kzeien@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "temp_mom"
> > <temp_mom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > My 37 year old daughter has just been told she has brain
cancer.
> they
> > > are doing all kinds of test today ..PLEASE PRAY FOR HIS HEALING
> GRACE
> > > FOR HER HER NAME IS FANCEE OTERO.
> > > THANKS SANDRA
> > >
> > My prayers are with you and yours. God works miracles every day
and
> may
> > he be with you always.
> >
>

I have a update on my Daughter Fancee .The drs found not 2 lesions in
her brain they found 5 one in the front 4 in the back one being rather
deep.They say it came from some place else they did a catscan and they
found two more one in each lung the size of a pea and nickle they are
going to do a biopsey today please pray in agreement that they will
find NO CANCER!!!!!! AMEN WE NEED THE WORD TO SPREAD AND PRAYERS TO
FLOW LIKE WATER THANKS ALL  HER NAME IS fANCEE oTERO SHE IS SAVE BUT
NOT SERVING--- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "kzeien"
<Kzeien@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cerebral_palsy_support@yahoogroups.com, "temp_mom"
> <temp_mom@> wrote:
> >
> > My 37 year old daughter has just been told she has brain cancer.
they
> > are doing all kinds of test today ..PLEASE PRAY FOR HIS HEALING
GRACE
> > FOR HER HER NAME IS FANCEE OTERO.
> > THANKS SANDRA
> >
> My prayers are with you and yours. God works miracles every day and
may
> he be with you always.
>