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Sometimes some of us don't put must because (1) we are going through so
much we ourselves and (2) when we step out and post ourselves hardly
anyone responds to us.  I am on a TON of yahoo groups (read but rarely
post because of my own conditions) and NONE of the groups are posting
much at all.  It discouraging to constintally here this over and over.
I wish we could be happy with what we do have.  My input.....

Emma

And yes I'm having a horrible, horrible night :-(

#29530

From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:21 am
Subject: Re: Prayer request

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praying Frances!  I'm so sorry

Frances Clark wrote:
> I am asking for prayers for my nephew who is in very critical condition from
an accidental drug overdose. He is on a ventilator and will have brain studies
in the morning.  He is 34 with a wife and three children. Please lift him and
his family up with your prayers.  My sister is devastated and I can't stop
crying. Please pray for all of us.
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> Frances C.
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#29529

From: holly thrasher <hollytrades@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:20 am
Subject: Re: Prayer request

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My dearest Frances,

I just got off the phone with you a short while ago!!!!!! I can't believe this horrible tragedy! It must've happened right after we hung up! Of course, I will be praying that you all will pull through this together and that God will send him home to his family soon and as a well man! I am soooooo sorry you are having to deal with this! Please keep us posted! I love you, girl.............and if you need a shoulder or anything at all, just call 24/7 and I will be here! Keep the faith!

Hugs,

Holly

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Frances Clark <t_roxus@...> wrote:

From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@...>
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Prayer request
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 10:03 PM

I am asking for prayers for my nephew who is in very critical condition from an accidental drug overdose. He is on a ventilator and will have brain studies in the morning. He is 34 with a wife and three children. Please lift him and his family up with your prayers. My sister is devastated and I can't stop crying. Please pray for all of us.

Frances C.

#29528

From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:12 am
Subject: Re: Prayer request

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You got it Frances!!!  Prayers going up for you and your family.  Please keep us
updated on how he is doing.

Love you,
Tammy P



----- Original Message ----
From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@...>
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:03:34 PM
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Prayer request

I am asking for prayers for my nephew who is in very critical condition from an
accidental drug overdose. He is on a ventilator and will have brain studies in
the morning.  He is 34 with a wife and three children. Please lift him and his
family up with your prayers.  My sister is devastated and I can't stop crying.
Please pray for all of us.

Frances C.



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#29527

From: "Frances Clark" <t_roxus@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:03 am
Subject: Prayer request

t_roxus

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I am asking for prayers for my nephew who is in very critical condition from an
accidental drug overdose. He is on a ventilator and will have brain studies in
the morning.  He is 34 with a wife and three children. Please lift him and his
family up with your prayers.  My sister is devastated and I can't stop crying.
Please pray for all of us.

Frances C.

#29526

From: Linda Houck <lindahouck71@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:51 am
Subject: Re: Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(

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Wendy,

I am so sorry that you are having such trouble. How discouraging and frustrating! You need to see the nutritionist and talk to a new surgeon. It sounds like your surgeon is just not doing the job you need him or her to. Be proactive for yourself! Take charge of your health, and do not worry about hurting someone's feelings. That person will get over it, but you must deal with these consequences every day. I had my RNY July 29, 2008.

Linda

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Wendy Harris <peachredpink@...> wrote:

From: Wendy Harris <peachredpink@...>
Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 12:39 PM

hello Emma my name is wendy I had the surgery a yr ago and have had trouble almost every day. I stay sick and cant eat . I have been in the hospital 3 times and had to have my stomach opened 4 times and still on broth. I am looking for someone who can help me with imformation or just some one to talk to

Wendy Harris

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Emma McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [centennial_ support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(
To: centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:52 PM

I'm doing MUCH better on my liquids so I don't think I'm dehydrated.
And I vary my yogurt but that is one that I do eat! I really feel like
I'm doing the best I can (and am doing what I'm told) which makes it
really stressful for me to continue losing. I've been at 113 for a
little while, maybe I'm staying here? Too thin, but if it would at
least stop that would be nice!

Emma

Tammy Parker wrote:
> Hi Emma,
> Just keep doing the best that you can do until you can see someone. The main thing is DON'T GET DEHYDRATED from having so much diarrhea. Keep us posted on how you are doing. Are you eating the carb master yogurt from Kroger?
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> From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com>
> To: centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:09:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [centennial_ support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(
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> Hey Tammy...
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> I have prescription meds for the diarrhea as well as over the counter
> meds...ugh! Adding in fiber and yogurt helps, but I just can't get in
> as much as they want. This is really hard.
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> Emma
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>> Bless your heart Emma!!! I know how frustrating things like this can be. You know that there's something wrong with you, but you cannot get anyone to pay attention to you. Have you tried contacting the surgeon that did the gallbladder surgery? Maybe they could tell you what's wrong with you. Please be sure that you do get in all of your fluids so you will not end up dehydrated and back in the hospital. That wouldn't be any fun at all. Have you tried any diarrhea medication over the counter? I know that is probably a silly question...lol I'll be praying for you that you do get to feeling better soon. Please keep us posted on how you are doing.
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>> Big Hugs,
>> Tammy P
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>> From: Emma S McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com>
>> To: Centennial Support (GROUP) <centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com>
>> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 5:18:58 PM
>> Subject: [centennial_ support_group] Update (kind of long) from me :-(
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>> I've been putting off posting this long update, partially cause it's
>> kind of hard to come and say that I'm losing too much when others are
>> struggling to lose enough....but here it is....my story and where I'm
>> at....(remember I'm a Vandy patient so my eating is different than
>> Centennials) ....
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>> I've been struggling with my depression more than normal for me, along
>> with alot of headaches. I saw my primary care Dr this week....we talked
>> over everything and she changed my anti-depressant and added a
>> preventative for the headaches (which also happens to be an
>> anti-depressant as well...so hopefully double whammy for me).
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>> My other issues are my health. I was doing fairly well after the
>> gastric bypass until I had my gall bladder removed (months ago)...I just
>> didn't seem to recover as well from that surgery and things have done
>> down hill since then. I have had chronic diarrhea and the weight
>> continued to pour off. While to most people the weight loss continuing
>> might be a good thing, but for me it's reached a point where it is not.
>> I saw the nutritionist and Dr in July....they put me on a medication for
>> the diarrhea and told me I should stay at the weight I was at....136.
>> Here it is several months later and I now weight 114 dropping as low as
>> 112 a couple of times. At 110 I am underweight. ..can you imagine? I
>> never thought I'd have THAT problem. I'm eating....I' m eating as much
>> as I can (I think)...I'm getting my meds/vitamins in, getting in at
>> least 70 grams of protein in, and most days getting close to or over 64
>> ounces of liquids finally. I'm not exercising as much as I
>> should...combo of problems with dizziness that plague me off/on, the
>> depression and the fact that the weight loss continuing and the diarrhea
>> make me so so tired and feeling awful almost all of the time. I'm doing
>> ok eating, as long as I remember to eat slowly and take small bites.
>> I'm awfully hard headed in that area and after have some tummy aches
>> because I have eaten too fast or taken too big of bites...but I'm aware
>> and working on that. Because the weight loss continued and continued
>> and continued I have attempted to maintain eating healthy as I can, but
>> am not counting calories or fat or any such; I've added in a bit more
>> starch, work on getting in veg and fruit with my protein. I have
>> discovered that sugar does not bother me, in fact nothing bothers me on
>> a routine basis. Thankfully I do not want much that is sweet at all and
>> rarely have it and in small bits when I do. I still use Splenda
>> faithfully. I had to be referred to a surgeon for hemorrhoids (from
>> the gall bladder surgery) who told me to get in more fiber and
>> yogurt...I'm trying to do that, although I feel full almost all the
>> time. It has helped the diarrhea...most days, not all; but def not
>> ended it.
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>> I've worked myself into a frazzle because of where my weight loss has
>> dropped to, knowing it is way below where they want me. I'm worried
>> about all the time and I do my best to get in what I can....at the same
>> time I do not want to stretch my pouch out either. I absolutely LOVED
>> the nutritionist I had after surgery but she took another job and I was
>> given over to another one. When I emailed in Sept with the original one
>> she was concerned about what was going on with me. Today was my first
>> appointment with the new nutritionist. I was scared and nervous to
>> go...she doesn't know me and I didn't know what she was going to say or
>> what they were going to do. I had to go alone and I was feeling fragile.
>>
>> This turned out to be the absolutely worst appointment, so disappointing
>> and the greatest waste of my time and gas money to go to Nashville. I
>> weighed 114 at the appointment, went into her office and sat down. They
>> didn't take my blood pressure or go over my medications, even though she
>> was told mine had changed...never asked what the new one is or
>> anything. The whole appointment was probable 15 min long tops. When
>> the woman dared to ask me if I was pleased with my weight loss I swear I
>> wanted to hit her across the desk. I was floored...what do I say? How
>> do I answer that? I finally said, well if I can get to feeling better,
>> not sick, and not tired and someone can tell me this is an ok weight
>> (even though I don't think it is) then I'll be ok. She went on to say
>> that we don't have much more room to work with (meaning for me to
>> lose...you think???.... .before something has to be done....and I'm
>> thinking something needs to be done NOW).
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>> I tell her about my depression and she automatically decides that if we
>> get my depression under control the weight loss will get under control.
>> Now I'm not a Dr, but I haven't heard of depression causing chronic
>> diarrhea and the depression is not causing me not to eat....so how can
>> the depression be causing the weight loss? She went over 2-3 TOPS of my
>> food diary and even after looking at all I eat made the comment that I'm
>> only eating 3 meals a day? How much does this woman think I can eat at
>> a time. You can look at it and tell I'm eating more than 3 times a day
>> in order to eat that much. I said no...4-5 times a day. So since my
>> primary care Dr changed my anti-dep med she asks if I want to come back
>> see her in a few months? WHAT??? I could be dead by then! She tells
>> me to start drinking regular gatorade to get more calories in (yuck) or
>> 100% fruit juice if sugar doesn't bother me....but stay on skim milk so
>> as to not get more saturated fat, but drink more...hello, look at my
>> food diary...I am already drinking more. She tells me I can up my
>> starches...again. ...if she's actually looking at what I wrote she'd see
>> that I already have. I'm eating whatever I want, as much as I can and
>> yet I'm still losing weight. In fact she looked at one days food....and
>> said that I didn't get all my protein in (for the total I wrote
>> 36g+)....and marked that I didn't know how much protein I got at
>> breakfast (huge breakfast buffet with egg casseroles, etc and supper at
>> Chef Wangs...lots of chicken and seafood)...so the 36 is without
>> counting both of those meals...but she didn't really look at it.
>>
>> So she tells me that I need to eat healthy, but I can pretty much eat
>> whatever I want and to up how much I eat at each meal. I'M ALREADY
>> DOING THAT!!! If I over eat, it just means that it is that much longer
>> before I'm hungry and can eat again. I'm in a catch 22. What am I
>> supposed to do? She didn't seem to care. With all this going on she's
>> ready to send me away and I ask about having lab work done....nope they
>> won't do it til I come back in Dec to see Dr. WHAT??? NO!!! I pushed
>> that one and she went and asked the Dr and he said yes to labs. She
>> came back and said that this way we'd have them by the time I come back
>> in 5-6 weeks...hello lady, the labs (most of them) were posted online by
>> the time that I could drive home from Nashville, not 5-6 weeks and so
>> far 8 things are off, although I have no idea what they mean at all.
>> She decides she will see me on the same day in Dec that I'm there to see
>> the Dr and by then my new meds should be working and we'll see how I'm
>> doing.
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>> Even my primary care Dr said she is VERY concerned about my weight loss
>> and this lady just sent me on my way telling me to drink gatorade and
>> eat whatever I wanted and more of it....as if I'm not doing that. She
>> didn't ask much; she didn't really read my food diaries, she didn't
>> comment on anything I"m eating or not eating. Wanted to know if I had
>> thought of eating a protein bar....well. ...when could I fit it in???
>> I'm already eating!!!!
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>> I was in tears when I left there. I feel like something is wrong and
>> something needs to be done and now I have to wait for 5-6 weeks to go
>> back and see what they say then. In the meantime all I can do is the
>> same thing I'm doing...eat as much as I can, getting in my protein,
>> liquids, meds, vitamins and try to add in exercising (she didn't even
>> care that I wasn't exercising much).
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>> I went there today scared but wanting help and wanting some answers and
>> left with NOTHING at all. I'm tired of being so tired all the time,
>> tired of feeling "icky", tired of being depressed, tired of the
>> headaches, etc, etc.
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>> Dave faxed the lab results that are in so far to my primary care Dr to
>> get some answers cause I think she'll get back to me sooner than Vandy
>> will, so we'll see what she says about them. I'm very frustrated and
>> feeling VERY hopeless today and almost wishing I'd never had this
>> surgery...yes I'm healthier in alot of ways, I can move and sit and do
>> what I couldn't before, but I feel tired and bad all the time. Getting
>> in all the meds/vitamins/ protein/liquids/ right stuff is a full time job
>> after surgery. Don't know how I'd do it if I worked. I just want my
>> life back, I want to feel normal and enjoy life with my family. Why
>> couldn't someone have helped me today? She just shuffled me off with
>> absolutely nothing.....
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>> And that's the story of my day. Sorry to rant on and on, I'm so upset
>> and so frustrated! But that's my update....Thank you all for listening
>> and for your prayers!!!
>>
>> Emma
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#29525

From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:49 am
Subject: Re: Frankie...... Disappointed...

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It's great that your photography business is going so great!! That college course must be a fun one. Are you taking it online? I have taken one online class and hated it. I need a one-on-one teacher to learn anything. School is going pretty good. This is the hardest semester that I have had so far. I'll be soooo glad when it's over too....lol

Good hearing from you!!!
Hugs,
Tammy P

From: Frankie Ashby <frankielashby@...>
To: "centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com" <centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 7:11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Frankie...... Disappointed...

My photography business has been goung good. I have photographed several seniors and a couple of family group pics. I just had an order of reprints the other day for 85-5x7, 5-8x10, and several 4x6. Being gone most of the time makes it a little difficult to stay on top of it all. But I will survive.

As for the college class, I am taking web design so that I can get my photography business online. Whenever I manage to complete the task of getting everything on the web it will make the process a whole lot easier since the orders will go thru there and I won't have to do it manually like I'm doing at the moment.

How's your classes going?

Can't wait to see you again!!

Hugs

Frankie

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...> wrote:

Hi Frankie and Tim,
It is so great seeing a post from you!!! Just be careful when you're on the road and emailing from you phone....the way people drive these days it's a lot more dangerous. How is your photography business going? Are you going to college and taking photography? I'm sure that you'll do great at whatever it is you decide to do...

Love and Hugs to you Both!!!
Tammy P

From: Frankie Ashby <frankielashby@yahoo.com>
To: "centennial_ support_group@ yahoogroups. com" <centennial_support_ group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 12:13:29 AM
Subject: Re: [centennial_ support_group] Frances..... Disappointed. ..

Hi Everyone
I'm still here and I read all the posts (mostly when I'm driving, like now). So I don't feel safe to respond. Tim & I are doing well. Between being on the road, my photography business, & college class it seems I don't have any downtime to stay in touch with all of you as much as I would like to. I can hardly wait for the holiday reunion so I can see all of you. Even though I don't get to respond very often, know that I think of you & miss you all every day. See you all in December.
Hugs from AL
Frankie

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't know Frances!! I also miss the buddies that aren't posting any longer. I don't know what's going to happen to this site. I do know that I'll be here till the end. I love everyone on here and I need them too. So Frances, you are NEVER alone!!! I'm always here!!! On November 4, 2006 is when I first started reading/posting on the yahoo group. I feel like everyone here is my extended family.....and I do miss everyone that I've not heard from in so long....

Love you!!
Hugs,
Tammy P

----- Original Message ----
From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@yahoo. com>
To: centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:06 PM
Subject: [centennial_ support_group] Disappointed. ..

I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group anywhere near where I live. I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to read the post and respond. I don't feel I can use this site for support anymore. I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site is doomed. I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and then it just seemed to become a domino effect. How can something so good end up like this?

Frances C.

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#29524

From: Frankie Ashby <frankielashby@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:11 am
Subject: Re: Frankie...... Disappointed...

frankielashby

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How's your classes going?

Can't wait to see you again!!

Hugs

Frankie

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...> wrote:

Hi Frankie and Tim,
It is so great seeing a post from you!!! Just be careful when you're on the road and emailing from you phone....the way people drive these days it's a lot more dangerous. How is your photography business going? Are you going to college and taking photography? I'm sure that you'll do great at whatever it is you decide to do...

Love and Hugs to you Both!!!
Tammy P

From: Frankie Ashby <frankielashby@yahoo.com>
To: "centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com" <centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 12:13:29 AM
Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Frances..... Disappointed...

Hi Everyone
I'm still here and I read all the posts (mostly when I'm driving, like now). So I don't feel safe to respond. Tim & I are doing well. Between being on the road, my photography business, & college class it seems I don't have any downtime to stay in touch with all of you as much as I would like to. I can hardly wait for the holiday reunion so I can see all of you. Even though I don't get to respond very often, know that I think of you & miss you all every day. See you all in December.
Hugs from AL
Frankie

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't know Frances!! I also miss the buddies that aren't posting any longer. I don't know what's going to happen to this site. I do know that I'll be here till the end. I love everyone on here and I need them too. So Frances, you are NEVER alone!!! I'm always here!!! On November 4, 2006 is when I first started reading/posting on the yahoo group. I feel like everyone here is my extended family.....and I do miss everyone that I've not heard from in so long....

Love you!!
Hugs,
Tammy P

----- Original Message ----
From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@yahoo. com>
To: centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:06 PM
Subject: [centennial_ support_group] Disappointed. ..

I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group anywhere near where I live. I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to read the post and respond. I don't feel I can use this site for support anymore. I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site is doomed. I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and then it just seemed to become a domino effect. How can something so good end up like this?

Frances C.

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#29523

From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:35 pm
Subject: Darlene/Frances....Disappointed...

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I am right there with the two of you Darlene and Frances!!!!

Love you Both!!!
Tammy P

From: darlene murakami <dmichelfelder@...>
To: Lisa Franklin <centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:14:55 PM
Subject: RE: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...

Frances-

I feel the same way. I use to get a lot of support from everyone on the site, now it seems like no one cares enough about each other to post or answer one. This site can only be as good as we make it and if we choose the give up on each other than we have no one to blame but ourselves. If its come to the point where we can't take a few minutes out of our day to reassure each other then, a truly sad day has come. Your right also with there are a few folks that will post faithfully and offer there support endlessly, I cling to those folks at this point for whatever support they offer. We have to all understand that we all have busy lives with lots of ups and downs but when we start letting all these "things" interfere with what is one of the most important part of our successful journeys, then we need to take a serious look at where our priorities are and how we need to make some changes. It was behaviors like that, that got all of us where we once were.

There are very few of us that can honestly say that we couldn't do better with posting and being supportive. I for one am guilty of not being there for folks cause I have been wrapped up in my own "stuff" lately. But that is no excuse for neglecting my friends and there needs. Its ok to take care of our own needs, but its not ok to forget about those who have cared for us and offered guidance.

I'm asking as your friend and fellow WLS partner- please continue to post as I need you and the others. I will promise to do my best to be there for you and the others. Maybe if we continue- so will others.

Darlene M

To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
From: t_roxus@...
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:47:06 +0000
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...

I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group anywhere near where I live. I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to read the post and respond. I don't feel I can use this site for support anymore. I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site is doomed. I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and then it just seemed to become a domino effect. How can something so good end up like this?

Frances C.

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#29522

From: darlene murakami <dmichelfelder@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:14 pm
Subject: RE: Disappointed...

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:47:06 +0000
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...

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#29521

From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:20 pm
Subject: Wendy.........Update (kind of long) from me :-(

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Bless your heart Wendy!!! What is the reason that you are having so much trouble with your surgery? I'll be praying that you get straightened out soon!! Keep us posted on how you are doing...

Hugs,
Tammy P

From: Wendy Harris <peachredpink@...>
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 6:39:17 AM
Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(

hello Emma my name is wendy I had the surgery a yr ago and have had trouble almost every day. I stay sick and cant eat . I have been in the hospital 3 times and had to have my stomach opened 4 times and still on broth. I am looking for someone who can help me with imformation or just some one to talk to

Wendy Harris

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...> wrote:

From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:52 PM

I'm doing MUCH better on my liquids so I don't think I'm dehydrated.
And I vary my yogurt but that is one that I do eat! I really feel like
I'm doing the best I can (and am doing what I'm told) which makes it
really stressful for me to continue losing. I've been at 113 for a
little while, maybe I'm staying here? Too thin, but if it would at
least stop that would be nice!

Emma

Tammy Parker wrote:
> Hi Emma,
> Just keep doing the best that you can do until you can see someone. The main thing is DON'T GET DEHYDRATED from having so much diarrhea. Keep us posted on how you are doing. Are you eating the carb master yogurt from Kroger?
>
> Hugs,
> Tammy P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com>
> To: centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:09:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [centennial_ support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(
>
> Hey Tammy...
>
> I have prescription meds for the diarrhea as well as over the counter
> meds...ugh! Adding in fiber and yogurt helps, but I just can't get in
> as much as they want. This is really hard.
>
> Emma
>
> Tammy Parker wrote:
>
>> Bless your heart Emma!!! I know how frustrating things like this can be. You know that there's something wrong with you, but you cannot get anyone to pay attention to you. Have you tried contacting the surgeon that did the gallbladder surgery? Maybe they could tell you what's wrong with you. Please be sure that you do get in all of your fluids so you will not end up dehydrated and back in the hospital. That wouldn't be any fun at all. Have you tried any diarrhea medication over the counter? I know that is probably a silly question...lol I'll be praying for you that you do get to feeling better soon. Please keep us posted on how you are doing.
>>
>> Big Hugs,
>> Tammy P
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Emma S McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com>
>> To: Centennial Support (GROUP) <centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com>
>> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 5:18:58 PM
>> Subject: [centennial_ support_group] Update (kind of long) from me :-(
>>
>> I've been putting off posting this long update, partially cause it's
>> kind of hard to come and say that I'm losing too much when others are
>> struggling to lose enough....but here it is....my story and where I'm
>> at....(remember I'm a Vandy patient so my eating is different than
>> Centennials) ....
>>
>> I've been struggling with my depression more than normal for me, along
>> with alot of headaches. I saw my primary care Dr this week....we talked
>> over everything and she changed my anti-depressant and added a
>> preventative for the headaches (which also happens to be an
>> anti-depressant as well...so hopefully double whammy for me).
>>
>> My other issues are my health. I was doing fairly well after the
>> gastric bypass until I had my gall bladder removed (months ago)...I just
>> didn't seem to recover as well from that surgery and things have done
>> down hill since then. I have had chronic diarrhea and the weight
>> continued to pour off. While to most people the weight loss continuing
>> might be a good thing, but for me it's reached a point where it is not.
>> I saw the nutritionist and Dr in July....they put me on a medication for
>> the diarrhea and told me I should stay at the weight I was at....136.
>> Here it is several months later and I now weight 114 dropping as low as
>> 112 a couple of times. At 110 I am underweight. ..can you imagine? I
>> never thought I'd have THAT problem. I'm eating....I' m eating as much
>> as I can (I think)...I'm getting my meds/vitamins in, getting in at
>> least 70 grams of protein in, and most days getting close to or over 64
>> ounces of liquids finally. I'm not exercising as much as I
>> should...combo of problems with dizziness that plague me off/on, the
>> depression and the fact that the weight loss continuing and the diarrhea
>> make me so so tired and feeling awful almost all of the time. I'm doing
>> ok eating, as long as I remember to eat slowly and take small bites.
>> I'm awfully hard headed in that area and after have some tummy aches
>> because I have eaten too fast or taken too big of bites...but I'm aware
>> and working on that. Because the weight loss continued and continued
>> and continued I have attempted to maintain eating healthy as I can, but
>> am not counting calories or fat or any such; I've added in a bit more
>> starch, work on getting in veg and fruit with my protein. I have
>> discovered that sugar does not bother me, in fact nothing bothers me on
>> a routine basis. Thankfully I do not want much that is sweet at all and
>> rarely have it and in small bits when I do. I still use Splenda
>> faithfully. I had to be referred to a surgeon for hemorrhoids (from
>> the gall bladder surgery) who told me to get in more fiber and
>> yogurt...I'm trying to do that, although I feel full almost all the
>> time. It has helped the diarrhea...most days, not all; but def not
>> ended it.
>>
>> I've worked myself into a frazzle because of where my weight loss has
>> dropped to, knowing it is way below where they want me. I'm worried
>> about all the time and I do my best to get in what I can....at the same
>> time I do not want to stretch my pouch out either. I absolutely LOVED
>> the nutritionist I had after surgery but she took another job and I was
>> given over to another one. When I emailed in Sept with the original one
>> she was concerned about what was going on with me. Today was my first
>> appointment with the new nutritionist. I was scared and nervous to
>> go...she doesn't know me and I didn't know what she was going to say or
>> what they were going to do. I had to go alone and I was feeling fragile.
>>
>> This turned out to be the absolutely worst appointment, so disappointing
>> and the greatest waste of my time and gas money to go to Nashville. I
>> weighed 114 at the appointment, went into her office and sat down. They
>> didn't take my blood pressure or go over my medications, even though she
>> was told mine had changed...never asked what the new one is or
>> anything. The whole appointment was probable 15 min long tops. When
>> the woman dared to ask me if I was pleased with my weight loss I swear I
>> wanted to hit her across the desk. I was floored...what do I say? How
>> do I answer that? I finally said, well if I can get to feeling better,
>> not sick, and not tired and someone can tell me this is an ok weight
>> (even though I don't think it is) then I'll be ok. She went on to say
>> that we don't have much more room to work with (meaning for me to
>> lose...you think???.... .before something has to be done....and I'm
>> thinking something needs to be done NOW).
>>
>> I tell her about my depression and she automatically decides that if we
>> get my depression under control the weight loss will get under control.
>> Now I'm not a Dr, but I haven't heard of depression causing chronic
>> diarrhea and the depression is not causing me not to eat....so how can
>> the depression be causing the weight loss? She went over 2-3 TOPS of my
>> food diary and even after looking at all I eat made the comment that I'm
>> only eating 3 meals a day? How much does this woman think I can eat at
>> a time. You can look at it and tell I'm eating more than 3 times a day
>> in order to eat that much. I said no...4-5 times a day. So since my
>> primary care Dr changed my anti-dep med she asks if I want to come back
>> see her in a few months? WHAT??? I could be dead by then! She tells
>> me to start drinking regular gatorade to get more calories in (yuck) or
>> 100% fruit juice if sugar doesn't bother me....but stay on skim milk so
>> as to not get more saturated fat, but drink more...hello, look at my
>> food diary...I am already drinking more. She tells me I can up my
>> starches...again. ...if she's actually looking at what I wrote she'd see
>> that I already have. I'm eating whatever I want, as much as I can and
>> yet I'm still losing weight. In fact she looked at one days food....and
>> said that I didn't get all my protein in (for the total I wrote
>> 36g+)....and marked that I didn't know how much protein I got at
>> breakfast (huge breakfast buffet with egg casseroles, etc and supper at
>> Chef Wangs...lots of chicken and seafood)...so the 36 is without
>> counting both of those meals...but she didn't really look at it.
>>
>> So she tells me that I need to eat healthy, but I can pretty much eat
>> whatever I want and to up how much I eat at each meal. I'M ALREADY
>> DOING THAT!!! If I over eat, it just means that it is that much longer
>> before I'm hungry and can eat again. I'm in a catch 22. What am I
>> supposed to do? She didn't seem to care. With all this going on she's
>> ready to send me away and I ask about having lab work done....nope they
>> won't do it til I come back in Dec to see Dr. WHAT??? NO!!! I pushed
>> that one and she went and asked the Dr and he said yes to labs. She
>> came back and said that this way we'd have them by the time I come back
>> in 5-6 weeks...hello lady, the labs (most of them) were posted online by
>> the time that I could drive home from Nashville, not 5-6 weeks and so
>> far 8 things are off, although I have no idea what they mean at all.
>> She decides she will see me on the same day in Dec that I'm there to see
>> the Dr and by then my new meds should be working and we'll see how I'm
>> doing.
>>
>> Even my primary care Dr said she is VERY concerned about my weight loss
>> and this lady just sent me on my way telling me to drink gatorade and
>> eat whatever I wanted and more of it....as if I'm not doing that. She
>> didn't ask much; she didn't really read my food diaries, she didn't
>> comment on anything I"m eating or not eating. Wanted to know if I had
>> thought of eating a protein bar....well. ...when could I fit it in???
>> I'm already eating!!!!
>>
>> I was in tears when I left there. I feel like something is wrong and
>> something needs to be done and now I have to wait for 5-6 weeks to go
>> back and see what they say then. In the meantime all I can do is the
>> same thing I'm doing...eat as much as I can, getting in my protein,
>> liquids, meds, vitamins and try to add in exercising (she didn't even
>> care that I wasn't exercising much).
>>
>> I went there today scared but wanting help and wanting some answers and
>> left with NOTHING at all. I'm tired of being so tired all the time,
>> tired of feeling "icky", tired of being depressed, tired of the
>> headaches, etc, etc.
>>
>> Dave faxed the lab results that are in so far to my primary care Dr to
>> get some answers cause I think she'll get back to me sooner than Vandy
>> will, so we'll see what she says about them. I'm very frustrated and
>> feeling VERY hopeless today and almost wishing I'd never had this
>> surgery...yes I'm healthier in alot of ways, I can move and sit and do
>> what I couldn't before, but I feel tired and bad all the time. Getting
>> in all the meds/vitamins/ protein/liquids/ right stuff is a full time job
>> after surgery. Don't know how I'd do it if I worked. I just want my
>> life back, I want to feel normal and enjoy life with my family. Why
>> couldn't someone have helped me today? She just shuffled me off with
>> absolutely nothing.....
>>
>> And that's the story of my day. Sorry to rant on and on, I'm so upset
>> and so frustrated! But that's my update....Thank you all for listening
>> and for your prayers!!!
>>
>> Emma
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#29520

From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:16 pm
Subject: Tracie B...phone numbers

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Hey Tracie,
I have went through lost cell numbers too. That is one of the biggest pains there is!! lol I'll email you my cell number and if you would, please email me yours back. How are things going these days for you? Have you found another job yet?

Love and Hugs,
Tammy P

From: TRACIE BOOKER <tracie0401@...>
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 5:36:01 AM
Subject: [centennial_support_group] phone numbers

Hey guys,

The screen when out in my cell phone last night and I have NO way to retrieve my phone numbers. I have ordered a new phone off of Ebay last night. Please resend me your phone numbers and my private email is tracie0401@... in case you don't want your phone number to be out public.

Thanks

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Tracie

#29519

From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:13 pm
Subject: Frances...... Disappointed...

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Hmmm....Frances....I'm not a coffee drinker either.  Since it's getting cooler
outside, try some hot chocolate.  There are some of them out there that are
sugar free and have protein in them.  I usually get up and have a protein shake
before I go, nothing else.  Maybe someone else will have a great solution for 
your a.m. droopiness...lol  Tell Kathy P that I said hello the next time that
you talk to her.  I miss hearing from her too.

Love you,
Tammy P

----- Original Message ----
From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@...>
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 4:25:20 AM
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Tammy P...... Disappointed...

My sweet Tammy, I knew I would hear from you.  Thank you for always being here
for me.  It seems like the extended famly is mostly MIA and I miss hearing from
them.  I gotta get some kind of boost for my morning energy.  I'm not a coffee
drinker at all and tea just isn't getting it. I had my lab work done last Friday
so maybe I will find out something from that which might be causing my
drowsiness in the a.m.'s. I have talked to Pam H. and she is going to be
watching for my lab work to come through to see if there is any connection
there.  Any suggestions?  I am sixteen months out now and on maintenance since
July '08. By the way, Kathy P. is still not able to post but we do talk on the
phone.

xoxoxo
Frances

--- In centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
wrote:
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> I don't know Frances!!  I also miss the buddies that aren't posting any
longer.  I don't know what's going to happen to this site.  I do know that I'll
be here till the end.  I love everyone on here and I need them too.  So Frances,
you are NEVER alone!!!  I'm always here!!!  On November 4, 2006 is when I first
started reading/posting on the yahoo group.  I feel like everyone here is my
extended family.....and I do miss everyone that I've not heard from in so
long....
>
> Love you!!
> Hugs,
> Tammy P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@...>
> To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:06 PM
> Subject: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...
>
> I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group
anywhere near where I live.  I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to
read the post and respond.  I don't feel I can use this site for support
anymore.  I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always
a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site
is doomed.  I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and
then it just seemed to become a domino effect.  How can something so good end up
like this?
>
> Frances C.
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From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:08 pm
Subject: Frankie...... Disappointed...

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Hi Frankie and Tim,
It is so great seeing a post from you!!! Just be careful when you're on the road and emailing from you phone....the way people drive these days it's a lot more dangerous. How is your photography business going? Are you going to college and taking photography? I'm sure that you'll do great at whatever it is you decide to do...

Love and Hugs to you Both!!!
Tammy P

From: Frankie Ashby <frankielashby@...>
To: "centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com" <centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 12:13:29 AM
Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Frances..... Disappointed...

Hi Everyone

I'm still here and I read all the posts (mostly when I'm driving, like now). So I don't feel safe to respond. Tim & I are doing well. Between being on the road, my photography business, & college class it seems I don't have any downtime to stay in touch with all of you as much as I would like to. I can hardly wait for the holiday reunion so I can see all of you. Even though I don't get to respond very often, know that I think of you & miss you all every day. See you all in December.

Hugs from AL

Frankie

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...> wrote:

I don't know Frances!! I also miss the buddies that aren't posting any longer. I don't know what's going to happen to this site. I do know that I'll be here till the end. I love everyone on here and I need them too. So Frances, you are NEVER alone!!! I'm always here!!! On November 4, 2006 is when I first started reading/posting on the yahoo group. I feel like everyone here is my extended family.....and I do miss everyone that I've not heard from in so long....

Love you!!
Hugs,
Tammy P

----- Original Message ----
From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@yahoo. com>
To: centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:06 PM
Subject: [centennial_ support_group] Disappointed. ..

I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group anywhere near where I live. I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to read the post and respond. I don't feel I can use this site for support anymore. I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site is doomed. I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and then it just seemed to become a domino effect. How can something so good end up like this?

Frances C.

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#29517

From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(

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I haven't heard back from him yet...hopefully today

Tammy Parker wrote:
> Hi Emma,
> I am so glad to hear that you're doing MUCH better today.  Just take one day
at a time....did you hear any thing from your surgeon?  I'll be praying for
you!!!
>
> Hugs,
> Tammy P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
> To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:52:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from
me :-(
>
> I'm doing MUCH better on my liquids so I don't think I'm dehydrated.
> And I vary my yogurt but that is one that I do eat!  I really feel like
> I'm doing the best I can (and am doing what I'm told) which makes it
> really stressful for me to continue losing.  I've been at 113 for a
> little while, maybe I'm staying here?  Too thin, but if it would at
> least stop that would be nice!
>
> Emma
>
> Tammy Parker wrote:
>
>> Hi Emma,
>> Just keep doing the best that you can do until you can see someone.  The main
thing is DON'T GET DEHYDRATED from having so much diarrhea.  Keep us posted on
how you are doing.  Are you eating the carb master yogurt from Kroger?
>>
>> Hugs,
>> Tammy P
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
>> To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:09:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from
me :-(
>>
>> Hey Tammy...
>>
>> I have prescription meds for the diarrhea as well as over the counter
>> meds...ugh!  Adding in fiber and yogurt helps, but I just can't get in
>> as much as they want.  This is really hard.
>>
>> Emma
>>
>> Tammy Parker wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Bless your heart Emma!!!  I know how frustrating things like this can be. 
You know that there's something wrong with you, but you cannot get anyone to pay
attention to you.  Have you tried contacting the surgeon that did the
gallbladder surgery?  Maybe they could tell you what's wrong with you.  Please
be sure that you do get in all of your fluids so you will not end up dehydrated
and back in the hospital.  That wouldn't be any fun at all.  Have you tried any
diarrhea medication over the counter?  I know that is probably a silly
question...lol  I'll be praying for you that you do get to feeling better soon. 
Please keep us posted on how you are doing.
>>>
>>> Big Hugs,
>>> Tammy P
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Emma S McCann <emmasmccann@...>
>>> To: Centennial Support (GROUP) <centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 5:18:58 PM
>>> Subject: [centennial_support_group] Update (kind of long) from me :-(
>>>
>>> I've been putting off posting this long update, partially cause it's
>>> kind of hard to come and say that I'm losing too much when others are
>>> struggling to lose enough....but here it is....my story and where I'm
>>> at....(remember I'm a Vandy patient so my eating is different than
>>> Centennials)....
>>>
>>> I've been struggling with my depression more than normal for me, along
>>> with alot of headaches.  I saw my primary care Dr this week....we talked
>>> over everything and she changed my anti-depressant and added a
>>> preventative for the headaches (which also happens to be an
>>> anti-depressant as well...so hopefully double whammy for me).
>>>
>>> My other issues are my health.  I was doing fairly well after the
>>> gastric bypass until I had my gall bladder removed (months ago)...I just
>>> didn't seem to recover as well from that surgery and things have done
>>> down hill since then.  I have had chronic diarrhea and the weight
>>> continued to pour off.  While to most people the weight loss continuing
>>> might be a good thing, but for me it's reached a point where it is not.
>>> I saw the nutritionist and Dr in July....they put me on a medication for
>>> the diarrhea and told me I should stay at the weight I was at....136.
>>> Here it is several months later and I now weight 114 dropping as low as
>>> 112 a couple of times.  At 110 I am underweight...can you imagine?  I
>>> never thought I'd have THAT problem.  I'm eating....I'm eating as much
>>> as I can (I think)...I'm getting my meds/vitamins in, getting in at
>>> least 70 grams of protein in, and most days getting close to or over 64
>>> ounces of liquids finally.  I'm not exercising as much as I
>>> should...combo of problems with dizziness that plague me off/on, the
>>> depression and the fact that the weight loss continuing and the diarrhea
>>> make me so so tired and feeling awful almost all of the time.  I'm doing
>>> ok eating, as long as I remember to eat slowly and take small bites.
>>> I'm awfully hard headed in that area and after have some tummy aches
>>> because I have eaten too fast or taken too big of bites...but I'm aware
>>> and working on that.  Because the weight loss continued and continued
>>> and continued I have attempted to maintain eating healthy as I can, but
>>> am not counting calories or fat or any such; I've added in a bit more
>>> starch, work on getting in veg and fruit with my protein.  I have
>>> discovered that sugar does not bother me, in fact nothing bothers me on
>>> a routine basis.  Thankfully I do not want much that is sweet at all and
>>> rarely have it and in small bits when I do.  I still use Splenda
>>> faithfully.  I had to be referred to  a surgeon for hemorrhoids (from
>>> the gall bladder surgery) who told me to get in more fiber and
>>> yogurt...I'm trying to do that, although I feel full almost all the
>>> time.  It has helped the diarrhea...most days, not all; but def not
>>> ended it.
>>>
>>> I've worked myself into a frazzle because of where my weight loss has
>>> dropped to, knowing it is way below where they want me.  I'm worried
>>> about all the time and I do my best to get in what I can....at the same
>>> time I do not want to stretch my pouch out either. I absolutely LOVED
>>> the nutritionist I had after surgery but she took another job and I was
>>> given over to another one.  When I emailed in Sept with the original one
>>> she was concerned about what was going on with me.  Today was my first
>>> appointment with the new nutritionist.  I was scared and nervous to
>>> go...she doesn't know me and I didn't know what she was going to say or
>>> what they were going to do.  I had to go alone and I was feeling fragile.
>>>
>>> This turned out to be the absolutely worst appointment, so disappointing
>>> and the greatest waste of my time and gas money to go to Nashville.  I
>>> weighed 114 at the appointment, went into her office and sat down.  They
>>> didn't take my blood pressure or go over my medications, even though she
>>> was told mine had changed...never asked what the new one is or
>>> anything.  The whole appointment was probable 15 min long tops.  When
>>> the woman dared to ask me if I was pleased with my weight loss I swear I
>>> wanted to hit her across the desk.  I was floored...what do I say?  How
>>> do I answer that?  I finally said, well if I can get to feeling better,
>>> not sick, and not tired and someone can tell me this is an ok weight
>>> (even though I don't think it is) then I'll be ok.  She went on to say
>>> that we don't have much more room to work with (meaning for me to
>>> lose...you think???.....before something has to be done....and I'm
>>> thinking something needs to be done NOW).
>>>
>>> I tell her about my depression and she automatically decides that if we
>>> get my depression under control the weight loss will get under control.
>>> Now I'm not a Dr, but I haven't heard of depression causing chronic
>>> diarrhea and the depression is not causing me not to eat....so how can
>>> the depression be causing the weight loss?  She went over 2-3 TOPS of my
>>> food diary and even after looking at all I eat made the comment that I'm
>>> only eating 3 meals a day?  How much does this woman think I can eat at
>>> a time.  You can look at it and tell I'm eating more than 3 times a day
>>> in order to eat that much.  I said no...4-5 times a day.  So since my
>>> primary care Dr changed my anti-dep med she asks if I want to come back
>>> see her in a few months?  WHAT???  I could be dead by then!  She tells
>>> me to start drinking regular gatorade to get more calories in (yuck) or
>>> 100% fruit juice if sugar doesn't bother me....but stay on skim milk so
>>> as to not get more saturated fat, but drink more...hello, look at my
>>> food diary...I am already drinking more.  She tells me I can up my
>>> starches...again....if she's actually looking at what I wrote she'd see
>>> that I already have.  I'm eating whatever I want, as much as I can and
>>> yet I'm still losing weight.  In fact she looked at one days food....and
>>> said that I didn't get all my protein in (for the total I wrote
>>> 36g+)....and marked that I didn't know how much protein I got at
>>> breakfast (huge breakfast buffet with egg casseroles, etc and supper at
>>> Chef Wangs...lots of chicken and seafood)...so the 36 is without
>>> counting both of those meals...but she didn't really look at it.
>>>
>>> So she tells me that I need to eat healthy, but I can pretty much eat
>>> whatever I want and to up how much I eat at each meal.  I'M ALREADY
>>> DOING THAT!!!  If I over eat, it just means that it is that much longer
>>> before I'm hungry and can eat again.  I'm in a catch 22.  What am I
>>> supposed to do?  She didn't seem to care.  With all this going on she's
>>> ready to send me away and I ask about having lab work done....nope they
>>> won't do it til I come back in Dec to see Dr.  WHAT???  NO!!!  I pushed
>>> that one and she went and asked the Dr and he said yes to labs.  She
>>> came back and said that this way we'd have them by the time I come back
>>> in 5-6 weeks...hello lady, the labs (most of them) were posted online by
>>> the time that I could drive home from Nashville, not 5-6 weeks and so
>>> far 8 things are off, although I have no idea what they mean at all.
>>> She decides she will see me on the same day in Dec that I'm there to see
>>> the Dr and by then my new meds should be working and we'll see how I'm
>>> doing.
>>>
>>> Even my primary care Dr said she is VERY concerned about my weight loss
>>> and this lady just sent me on my way telling me to drink gatorade and
>>> eat whatever I wanted and more of it....as if I'm not doing that.  She
>>> didn't ask much; she didn't really read my food diaries, she didn't
>>> comment on anything I"m eating or not eating.  Wanted to know if I had
>>> thought of eating a protein bar....well....when could I fit it in???
>>> I'm already eating!!!!
>>>
>>> I was in tears when I left there.  I feel like something is wrong and
>>> something needs to be done and now I have to wait for 5-6 weeks to go
>>> back and see what they say then.  In the meantime all I can do is the
>>> same thing I'm doing...eat as much as I can, getting in my protein,
>>> liquids, meds, vitamins and try to add in exercising (she didn't even
>>> care that I wasn't exercising much).
>>>
>>> I went there today scared but wanting help and wanting some answers and
>>> left with NOTHING at all.  I'm tired of being so tired all the time,
>>> tired of feeling "icky", tired of being depressed, tired of the
>>> headaches, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> Dave faxed the lab results that are in so far to my primary care Dr to
>>> get some answers cause I think she'll get back to me sooner than Vandy
>>> will, so we'll see what she says about them.  I'm very frustrated and
>>> feeling VERY hopeless today and almost wishing I'd never had this
>>> surgery...yes I'm healthier in alot of ways, I can move and sit and do
>>> what I couldn't before, but I feel tired and bad all the time.  Getting
>>> in all the meds/vitamins/protein/liquids/right stuff is a full time job
>>> after surgery.  Don't know how I'd do it if I worked.  I just want my
>>> life back, I want to feel normal and enjoy life with my family.  Why
>>> couldn't someone have helped me today?  She just shuffled me off with
>>> absolutely nothing.....
>>>
>>> And that's the story of my day.  Sorry to rant on and on, I'm so upset
>>> and so frustrated!  But that's my update....Thank you all for listening
>>> and for your prayers!!!
>>>
>>> Emma
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#29516

From: "vln00" <vnash72@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:15 pm
Subject: Make today count.

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Sometimes life presents challenges that seem insurmountable. When tragedy
strikes or plans fail, motivation can jump right out the window.



When you're feeling discouraged, it's easy to lash out at others or mistreat
yourself.



But have courage. Despite your circumstances, make today memorable for something
positive. A positive action won't completely take your worries away, but it is
the first step to overcoming adversity.



Action for the day: No matter how you feel or what is happening in your life
that is discouraging, take a positive action today. Make today count for
something good.



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#29515

From: Linda Houck <lindahouck71@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: Dealing with issues

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Vicki,

Hi, and welcome! I am going to have to side with exercise here and diet changes. The surgery is but a tool; it is not a cure-all. You are going to have to pay attention and be aware of what you eat for the rest of your life. You are going to have to make the healthy and correct choices you know you have to make. Also, you have to exercise. It is not punishment or a bother, but rather a new part of your healthy lifestyle and commitment to making yourself a better you. After all, was it not to be healthy and be a better you why you had the surgery in the first place? Why hamper your efforts by denying yourself an easy tool--exercise? You are not a failure; instead, you are not taking full advantage of the tools at your disposal. Start exercising and eating the way your dr and nutritionist tell you to. Give it some time, and you will see success. Feeding on that success to get more tastes better than anything else you can eat.

Linda

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Vicki <gasorski@...> wrote:

From: Vicki <gasorski@...>
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Dealing with issues
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 2:47 AM

Hi to all,

Haven't posted in a while but have been reading almost everyday.

I'm going through some stuff and am asking for guidance. I had my RNY in April, 08, at Detroit Medical Center, Michigan. Although I had a couple of minor problems in the beginning, overall my surgery has been successful. I, on the otherhand, not feeling it. I thought when I had this done, I wouldn't have to think about dieting anymore. But, that's all I think about.

Exercising is a very difficult option but have managed to lose 90# but still have about 40 to go. I've been told by the doctor and nutritionist that if I can't exercise, that weight probably won't come off. So, in my mind, I feel like a failure. I know I'm not, but my fat brain won't let me go....I guess that's the only way I can say it.

I'm more concerned about my weight than ever before, fearing I'll put it back on. The reason I say that is I'm also dealing with a 3# fluctuation on a regular basis. For 8 months, I stayed at a constant 188. The past month, I'm bouncing between 188 and 191. When I hit 190, I cut way back on my food, like only shakes and soups for the day to get rid of the weight. It's reacting like it's water weight because it seems to come right off within 24 hours.

Any ideas / suggestions are appreciated. I haven't called the doctor yet on this but need to see him next month....just thought I'd ask the group to see if anyone else is dealing with these issues.

vicki g.
michigan

#29514

From: Linda Houck <lindahouck71@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: Disappointed...

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Frances,

I am going to go out on a limb here, and I will probably make some people angry or offended, but here is my two cents: This site has become, over time, more about socializing and personal events not related to wls and its problems, complications, issues, and triumphs. More and more I see personal conversations and postings that have nothing to do with WLS and the help we need from each other. These postings and conversations, quite frankly, belong in personal e-mail or phone calls among those involved. That is not what this site is set up for. While I understand that there is more to life than WLS and its related issues, those other things are not what this site is geared toward. I post rarely because, to me, there is no need to post about things not related to WLS.

Again, that is my opinion an no one else's. I am not asking people to quit posting their lives. I can read a post, decide for myself if it is worth responding to, and act accordingly. I am sure that others may feel the same, but due to the. . .well. . .easily offended nature of some on here, they have been reluctant to say anything. But I can remain quiet no longer.

Thanks for listening!

Linda

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Frances Clark <t_roxus@...> wrote:

From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@...>
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 2:47 AM

I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group anywhere near where I live. I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to read the post and respond. I don't feel I can use this site for support anymore. I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site is doomed. I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and then it just seemed to become a domino effect. How can something so good end up like this?

Frances C.

#29513

From: Wendy Harris <peachredpink@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(

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From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:52 PM

I'm doing MUCH better on my liquids so I don't think I'm dehydrated.
And I vary my yogurt but that is one that I do eat! I really feel like
I'm doing the best I can (and am doing what I'm told) which makes it
really stressful for me to continue losing. I've been at 113 for a
little while, maybe I'm staying here? Too thin, but if it would at
least stop that would be nice!

Emma

Tammy Parker wrote:
> Hi Emma,
> Just keep doing the best that you can do until you can see someone. The main thing is DON'T GET DEHYDRATED from having so much diarrhea. Keep us posted on how you are doing. Are you eating the carb master yogurt from Kroger?
>
> Hugs,
> Tammy P
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com>
> To: centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:09:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [centennial_ support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(
>
> Hey Tammy...
>
> I have prescription meds for the diarrhea as well as over the counter
> meds...ugh! Adding in fiber and yogurt helps, but I just can't get in
> as much as they want. This is really hard.
>
> Emma
>
> Tammy Parker wrote:
>
>> Bless your heart Emma!!! I know how frustrating things like this can be. You know that there's something wrong with you, but you cannot get anyone to pay attention to you. Have you tried contacting the surgeon that did the gallbladder surgery? Maybe they could tell you what's wrong with you. Please be sure that you do get in all of your fluids so you will not end up dehydrated and back in the hospital. That wouldn't be any fun at all. Have you tried any diarrhea medication over the counter? I know that is probably a silly question...lol I'll be praying for you that you do get to feeling better soon. Please keep us posted on how you are doing.
>>
>> Big Hugs,
>> Tammy P
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Emma S McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com>
>> To: Centennial Support (GROUP) <centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com>
>> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 5:18:58 PM
>> Subject: [centennial_ support_group] Update (kind of long) from me :-(
>>
>> I've been putting off posting this long update, partially cause it's
>> kind of hard to come and say that I'm losing too much when others are
>> struggling to lose enough....but here it is....my story and where I'm
>> at....(remember I'm a Vandy patient so my eating is different than
>> Centennials) ....
>>
>> I've been struggling with my depression more than normal for me, along
>> with alot of headaches. I saw my primary care Dr this week....we talked
>> over everything and she changed my anti-depressant and added a
>> preventative for the headaches (which also happens to be an
>> anti-depressant as well...so hopefully double whammy for me).
>>
>> My other issues are my health. I was doing fairly well after the
>> gastric bypass until I had my gall bladder removed (months ago)...I just
>> didn't seem to recover as well from that surgery and things have done
>> down hill since then. I have had chronic diarrhea and the weight
>> continued to pour off. While to most people the weight loss continuing
>> might be a good thing, but for me it's reached a point where it is not.
>> I saw the nutritionist and Dr in July....they put me on a medication for
>> the diarrhea and told me I should stay at the weight I was at....136.
>> Here it is several months later and I now weight 114 dropping as low as
>> 112 a couple of times. At 110 I am underweight. ..can you imagine? I
>> never thought I'd have THAT problem. I'm eating....I' m eating as much
>> as I can (I think)...I'm getting my meds/vitamins in, getting in at
>> least 70 grams of protein in, and most days getting close to or over 64
>> ounces of liquids finally. I'm not exercising as much as I
>> should...combo of problems with dizziness that plague me off/on, the
>> depression and the fact that the weight loss continuing and the diarrhea
>> make me so so tired and feeling awful almost all of the time. I'm doing
>> ok eating, as long as I remember to eat slowly and take small bites.
>> I'm awfully hard headed in that area and after have some tummy aches
>> because I have eaten too fast or taken too big of bites...but I'm aware
>> and working on that. Because the weight loss continued and continued
>> and continued I have attempted to maintain eating healthy as I can, but
>> am not counting calories or fat or any such; I've added in a bit more
>> starch, work on getting in veg and fruit with my protein. I have
>> discovered that sugar does not bother me, in fact nothing bothers me on
>> a routine basis. Thankfully I do not want much that is sweet at all and
>> rarely have it and in small bits when I do. I still use Splenda
>> faithfully. I had to be referred to a surgeon for hemorrhoids (from
>> the gall bladder surgery) who told me to get in more fiber and
>> yogurt...I'm trying to do that, although I feel full almost all the
>> time. It has helped the diarrhea...most days, not all; but def not
>> ended it.
>>
>> I've worked myself into a frazzle because of where my weight loss has
>> dropped to, knowing it is way below where they want me. I'm worried
>> about all the time and I do my best to get in what I can....at the same
>> time I do not want to stretch my pouch out either. I absolutely LOVED
>> the nutritionist I had after surgery but she took another job and I was
>> given over to another one. When I emailed in Sept with the original one
>> she was concerned about what was going on with me. Today was my first
>> appointment with the new nutritionist. I was scared and nervous to
>> go...she doesn't know me and I didn't know what she was going to say or
>> what they were going to do. I had to go alone and I was feeling fragile.
>>
>> This turned out to be the absolutely worst appointment, so disappointing
>> and the greatest waste of my time and gas money to go to Nashville. I
>> weighed 114 at the appointment, went into her office and sat down. They
>> didn't take my blood pressure or go over my medications, even though she
>> was told mine had changed...never asked what the new one is or
>> anything. The whole appointment was probable 15 min long tops. When
>> the woman dared to ask me if I was pleased with my weight loss I swear I
>> wanted to hit her across the desk. I was floored...what do I say? How
>> do I answer that? I finally said, well if I can get to feeling better,
>> not sick, and not tired and someone can tell me this is an ok weight
>> (even though I don't think it is) then I'll be ok. She went on to say
>> that we don't have much more room to work with (meaning for me to
>> lose...you think???.... .before something has to be done....and I'm
>> thinking something needs to be done NOW).
>>
>> I tell her about my depression and she automatically decides that if we
>> get my depression under control the weight loss will get under control.
>> Now I'm not a Dr, but I haven't heard of depression causing chronic
>> diarrhea and the depression is not causing me not to eat....so how can
>> the depression be causing the weight loss? She went over 2-3 TOPS of my
>> food diary and even after looking at all I eat made the comment that I'm
>> only eating 3 meals a day? How much does this woman think I can eat at
>> a time. You can look at it and tell I'm eating more than 3 times a day
>> in order to eat that much. I said no...4-5 times a day. So since my
>> primary care Dr changed my anti-dep med she asks if I want to come back
>> see her in a few months? WHAT??? I could be dead by then! She tells
>> me to start drinking regular gatorade to get more calories in (yuck) or
>> 100% fruit juice if sugar doesn't bother me....but stay on skim milk so
>> as to not get more saturated fat, but drink more...hello, look at my
>> food diary...I am already drinking more. She tells me I can up my
>> starches...again. ...if she's actually looking at what I wrote she'd see
>> that I already have. I'm eating whatever I want, as much as I can and
>> yet I'm still losing weight. In fact she looked at one days food....and
>> said that I didn't get all my protein in (for the total I wrote
>> 36g+)....and marked that I didn't know how much protein I got at
>> breakfast (huge breakfast buffet with egg casseroles, etc and supper at
>> Chef Wangs...lots of chicken and seafood)...so the 36 is without
>> counting both of those meals...but she didn't really look at it.
>>
>> So she tells me that I need to eat healthy, but I can pretty much eat
>> whatever I want and to up how much I eat at each meal. I'M ALREADY
>> DOING THAT!!! If I over eat, it just means that it is that much longer
>> before I'm hungry and can eat again. I'm in a catch 22. What am I
>> supposed to do? She didn't seem to care. With all this going on she's
>> ready to send me away and I ask about having lab work done....nope they
>> won't do it til I come back in Dec to see Dr. WHAT??? NO!!! I pushed
>> that one and she went and asked the Dr and he said yes to labs. She
>> came back and said that this way we'd have them by the time I come back
>> in 5-6 weeks...hello lady, the labs (most of them) were posted online by
>> the time that I could drive home from Nashville, not 5-6 weeks and so
>> far 8 things are off, although I have no idea what they mean at all.
>> She decides she will see me on the same day in Dec that I'm there to see
>> the Dr and by then my new meds should be working and we'll see how I'm
>> doing.
>>
>> Even my primary care Dr said she is VERY concerned about my weight loss
>> and this lady just sent me on my way telling me to drink gatorade and
>> eat whatever I wanted and more of it....as if I'm not doing that. She
>> didn't ask much; she didn't really read my food diaries, she didn't
>> comment on anything I"m eating or not eating. Wanted to know if I had
>> thought of eating a protein bar....well. ...when could I fit it in???
>> I'm already eating!!!!
>>
>> I was in tears when I left there. I feel like something is wrong and
>> something needs to be done and now I have to wait for 5-6 weeks to go
>> back and see what they say then. In the meantime all I can do is the
>> same thing I'm doing...eat as much as I can, getting in my protein,
>> liquids, meds, vitamins and try to add in exercising (she didn't even
>> care that I wasn't exercising much).
>>
>> I went there today scared but wanting help and wanting some answers and
>> left with NOTHING at all. I'm tired of being so tired all the time,
>> tired of feeling "icky", tired of being depressed, tired of the
>> headaches, etc, etc.
>>
>> Dave faxed the lab results that are in so far to my primary care Dr to
>> get some answers cause I think she'll get back to me sooner than Vandy
>> will, so we'll see what she says about them. I'm very frustrated and
>> feeling VERY hopeless today and almost wishing I'd never had this
>> surgery...yes I'm healthier in alot of ways, I can move and sit and do
>> what I couldn't before, but I feel tired and bad all the time. Getting
>> in all the meds/vitamins/ protein/liquids/ right stuff is a full time job
>> after surgery. Don't know how I'd do it if I worked. I just want my
>> life back, I want to feel normal and enjoy life with my family. Why
>> couldn't someone have helped me today? She just shuffled me off with
>> absolutely nothing.....
>>
>> And that's the story of my day. Sorry to rant on and on, I'm so upset
>> and so frustrated! But that's my update....Thank you all for listening
>> and for your prayers!!!
>>
>> Emma
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#29512

From: TRACIE BOOKER <tracie0401@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:36 am
Subject: phone numbers

tracie.booker

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Hey guys,

The screen when out in my cell phone last night and I have NO way to retrieve my phone numbers. I have ordered a new phone off of Ebay last night. Please resend me your phone numbers and my private email is tracie0401@... in case you don't want your phone number to be out public.

Thanks

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Tracie

#29511

From: "Frances Clark" <t_roxus@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:25 am
Subject: Tammy P...... Disappointed...

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My sweet Tammy, I knew I would hear from you.  Thank you for always being here
for me.  It seems like the extended famly is mostly MIA and I miss hearing from
them.  I gotta get some kind of boost for my morning energy.  I'm not a coffee
drinker at all and tea just isn't getting it. I had my lab work done last Friday
so maybe I will find out something from that which might be causing my
drowsiness in the a.m.'s. I have talked to Pam H. and she is going to be
watching for my lab work to come through to see if there is any connection
there.  Any suggestions?  I am sixteen months out now and on maintenance since
July '08. By the way, Kathy P. is still not able to post but we do talk on the
phone.

xoxoxo
Frances

--- In centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
wrote:
>
> I don't know Frances!!  I also miss the buddies that aren't posting any
longer.  I don't know what's going to happen to this site.  I do know that I'll
be here till the end.  I love everyone on here and I need them too.  So Frances,
you are NEVER alone!!!  I'm always here!!!  On November 4, 2006 is when I first
started reading/posting on the yahoo group.  I feel like everyone here is my
extended family.....and I do miss everyone that I've not heard from in so
long....
>
> Love you!!
> Hugs,
> Tammy P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@...>
> To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:06 PM
> Subject: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...
>
> I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group
anywhere near where I live.  I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to
read the post and respond.  I don't feel I can use this site for support
anymore.  I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always
a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site
is doomed.  I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and
then it just seemed to become a domino effect.  How can something so good end up
like this?
>
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#29510

From: "Frances Clark" <t_roxus@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:15 am
Subject: Frankie....... Disappointed...

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Thank you for updating me.  I know you and Tim are on the road all of the time
so it is hard for you but I did know that you would respond to my message.  I do
think of you often and wonder how it is out there on the roads and where ya'll
are at.  Rick drives a gasoline transport but he is home everynight so I can
relate to how it is for you and Tim.  I look forward to seeing you both at the
reunion. I just gotta find something to wear. Stay safe from all of those crazy
tail gaiters....

xoxoxo
Frances

--- In centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com, Frankie Ashby
<frankielashby@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone
> I'm still here and I read all the posts (mostly when I'm driving, like now).
So I don't feel safe to respond. Tim & I are doing well. Between being on the
road, my photography business, & college class it seems I don't have any
downtime to stay in touch with all of you as much as I would like to. I can
hardly wait for the holiday reunion so I can see all of you. Even though I don't
get to respond very often, know that I think of you & miss you all every day.
See you all in December.
> Hugs from AL
> Frankie
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know Frances!! I also miss the buddies that aren't posting any longer.
I don't know what's going to happen to this site. I do know that I'll be here
till the end. I love everyone on here and I need them too. So Frances, you are
NEVER alone!!! I'm always here!!!  On November 4, 2006 is when I first started
reading/posting on the yahoo group. I feel like everyone here is my extended
family.....and I do miss everyone that I've not heard from in so long....
>
> Love you!!
> Hugs,
> Tammy P
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@...>
> To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:06 PM
> Subject: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...
>
> I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group
anywhere near where I live. I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to
read the post and respond. I don't feel I can use this site for support anymore.
I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always a
sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site is
doomed. I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and then
it just seemed to become a domino effect. How can something so good end up like
this?
>
> Frances C.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>

#29509

From: Frankie Ashby <frankielashby@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:13 am
Subject: Re: Frances..... Disappointed...

frankielashby

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Hi Everyone

Hugs from AL

Frankie

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...> wrote:

I don't know Frances!! I also miss the buddies that aren't posting any longer. I don't know what's going to happen to this site. I do know that I'll be here till the end. I love everyone on here and I need them too. So Frances, you are NEVER alone!!! I'm always here!!! On November 4, 2006 is when I first started reading/posting on the yahoo group. I feel like everyone here is my extended family.....and I do miss everyone that I've not heard from in so long....

Love you!!
Hugs,
Tammy P

----- Original Message ----
From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@yahoo.com>
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:06 PM
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...

I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group anywhere near where I live. I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to read the post and respond. I don't feel I can use this site for support anymore. I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site is doomed. I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and then it just seemed to become a domino effect. How can something so good end up like this?

Frances C.

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From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:28 am
Subject: Vicki...Dealing with issues

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Hi Vicki,
It sounds like you are having water retention.  To be sure that it what it is,
keep a food journal and keep up with all of your calorie intake for a couple of
days and see exactly how many calories you're taking in each day.  Just be
honest with yourself about everything.  Sometimes when we have to account to
ourselves exactly what we're putting in our mouths, we tend to watch every bite.
This surgery that we've had is only a tool, a life changing decision that we've
made.  It's a learned behavior that we must adapt to succeed.  Keep us posted on
how you are doing!!!

Big Hugs,
Tammy P



----- Original Message ----
From: Vicki <gasorski@...>
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:20 PM
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Dealing with issues

Hi to all,

Haven't posted in a while but have been reading almost everyday.

I'm going through some stuff and am asking for guidance. I had my RNY in April,
08, at Detroit Medical Center, Michigan. Although I had a couple of minor
problems in the beginning, overall my surgery has been successful. I, on the
otherhand, not feeling it. I thought when I had this done, I wouldn't have to
think about dieting anymore. But, that's all I think about.

Exercising is a very difficult option but have managed to lose 90# but still
have about 40 to go. I've been told by the doctor and nutritionist that if I
can't exercise, that weight probably won't come off. So, in my mind, I feel like
a failure. I know I'm not, but my fat brain won't let me go....I guess that's
the only way I can say it.

I'm more concerned about my weight than ever before, fearing I'll put it back
on. The reason I say that is I'm also dealing with a 3# fluctuation on a regular
basis. For 8 months, I stayed at a constant 188. The past month, I'm bouncing
between 188 and 191. When I hit 190, I cut way back on my food, like only shakes
and soups for the day to get rid of the weight. It's reacting like it's water
weight because it seems to come right off within 24 hours.

Any ideas / suggestions are appreciated. I haven't called the doctor yet on this
but need to see him next month....just thought I'd ask the group to see if
anyone else is dealing with these issues.

vicki g.
michigan




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From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:18 am
Subject: Frances..... Disappointed...

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I don't know Frances!!  I also miss the buddies that aren't posting any longer. 
I don't know what's going to happen to this site.  I do know that I'll be here
till the end.  I love everyone on here and I need them too.  So Frances, you are
NEVER alone!!!  I'm always here!!!  On November 4, 2006 is when I first started
reading/posting on the yahoo group.  I feel like everyone here is my extended
family.....and I do miss everyone that I've not heard from in so long....

Love you!!
Hugs,
Tammy P



----- Original Message ----
From: Frances Clark <t_roxus@...>
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:47:06 PM
Subject: [centennial_support_group] Disappointed...

I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group
anywhere near where I live.  I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to
read the post and respond.  I don't feel I can use this site for support
anymore.  I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always
a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site
is doomed.  I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and
then it just seemed to become a domino effect.  How can something so good end up
like this?

Frances C.



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From: Tammy Parker <bamagal4ever@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:09 am
Subject: Re: Emma......Update (kind of long) from me :-(

bamagal4ever

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Hi Emma,
I am so glad to hear that you're doing MUCH better today.  Just take one day at
a time....did you hear any thing from your surgeon?  I'll be praying for you!!!

Hugs,
Tammy P



----- Original Message ----
From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:52:18 PM
Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from me
:-(

I'm doing MUCH better on my liquids so I don't think I'm dehydrated.
And I vary my yogurt but that is one that I do eat!  I really feel like
I'm doing the best I can (and am doing what I'm told) which makes it
really stressful for me to continue losing.  I've been at 113 for a
little while, maybe I'm staying here?  Too thin, but if it would at
least stop that would be nice!

Emma

Tammy Parker wrote:
> Hi Emma,
> Just keep doing the best that you can do until you can see someone.  The main
thing is DON'T GET DEHYDRATED from having so much diarrhea.  Keep us posted on
how you are doing.  Are you eating the carb master yogurt from Kroger?
>
> Hugs,
> Tammy P
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
> To: centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 2:09:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [centennial_support_group] Emma......Update (kind of long) from
me :-(
>
> Hey Tammy...
>
> I have prescription meds for the diarrhea as well as over the counter
> meds...ugh!  Adding in fiber and yogurt helps, but I just can't get in
> as much as they want.  This is really hard.
>
> Emma
>
> Tammy Parker wrote:
>
>> Bless your heart Emma!!!  I know how frustrating things like this can be. 
You know that there's something wrong with you, but you cannot get anyone to pay
attention to you.  Have you tried contacting the surgeon that did the
gallbladder surgery?  Maybe they could tell you what's wrong with you.  Please
be sure that you do get in all of your fluids so you will not end up dehydrated
and back in the hospital.  That wouldn't be any fun at all.  Have you tried any
diarrhea medication over the counter?  I know that is probably a silly
question...lol  I'll be praying for you that you do get to feeling better soon. 
Please keep us posted on how you are doing.
>>
>> Big Hugs,
>> Tammy P
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Emma S McCann <emmasmccann@...>
>> To: Centennial Support (GROUP) <centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 5:18:58 PM
>> Subject: [centennial_support_group] Update (kind of long) from me :-(
>>
>> I've been putting off posting this long update, partially cause it's
>> kind of hard to come and say that I'm losing too much when others are
>> struggling to lose enough....but here it is....my story and where I'm
>> at....(remember I'm a Vandy patient so my eating is different than
>> Centennials)....
>>
>> I've been struggling with my depression more than normal for me, along
>> with alot of headaches.  I saw my primary care Dr this week....we talked
>> over everything and she changed my anti-depressant and added a
>> preventative for the headaches (which also happens to be an
>> anti-depressant as well...so hopefully double whammy for me).
>>
>> My other issues are my health.  I was doing fairly well after the
>> gastric bypass until I had my gall bladder removed (months ago)...I just
>> didn't seem to recover as well from that surgery and things have done
>> down hill since then.  I have had chronic diarrhea and the weight
>> continued to pour off.  While to most people the weight loss continuing
>> might be a good thing, but for me it's reached a point where it is not.
>> I saw the nutritionist and Dr in July....they put me on a medication for
>> the diarrhea and told me I should stay at the weight I was at....136.
>> Here it is several months later and I now weight 114 dropping as low as
>> 112 a couple of times.  At 110 I am underweight...can you imagine?  I
>> never thought I'd have THAT problem.  I'm eating....I'm eating as much
>> as I can (I think)...I'm getting my meds/vitamins in, getting in at
>> least 70 grams of protein in, and most days getting close to or over 64
>> ounces of liquids finally.  I'm not exercising as much as I
>> should...combo of problems with dizziness that plague me off/on, the
>> depression and the fact that the weight loss continuing and the diarrhea
>> make me so so tired and feeling awful almost all of the time.  I'm doing
>> ok eating, as long as I remember to eat slowly and take small bites.
>> I'm awfully hard headed in that area and after have some tummy aches
>> because I have eaten too fast or taken too big of bites...but I'm aware
>> and working on that.  Because the weight loss continued and continued
>> and continued I have attempted to maintain eating healthy as I can, but
>> am not counting calories or fat or any such; I've added in a bit more
>> starch, work on getting in veg and fruit with my protein.  I have
>> discovered that sugar does not bother me, in fact nothing bothers me on
>> a routine basis.  Thankfully I do not want much that is sweet at all and
>> rarely have it and in small bits when I do.  I still use Splenda
>> faithfully.  I had to be referred to  a surgeon for hemorrhoids (from
>> the gall bladder surgery) who told me to get in more fiber and
>> yogurt...I'm trying to do that, although I feel full almost all the
>> time.  It has helped the diarrhea...most days, not all; but def not
>> ended it.
>>
>> I've worked myself into a frazzle because of where my weight loss has
>> dropped to, knowing it is way below where they want me.  I'm worried
>> about all the time and I do my best to get in what I can....at the same
>> time I do not want to stretch my pouch out either. I absolutely LOVED
>> the nutritionist I had after surgery but she took another job and I was
>> given over to another one.  When I emailed in Sept with the original one
>> she was concerned about what was going on with me.  Today was my first
>> appointment with the new nutritionist.  I was scared and nervous to
>> go...she doesn't know me and I didn't know what she was going to say or
>> what they were going to do.  I had to go alone and I was feeling fragile.
>>
>> This turned out to be the absolutely worst appointment, so disappointing
>> and the greatest waste of my time and gas money to go to Nashville.  I
>> weighed 114 at the appointment, went into her office and sat down.  They
>> didn't take my blood pressure or go over my medications, even though she
>> was told mine had changed...never asked what the new one is or
>> anything.  The whole appointment was probable 15 min long tops.  When
>> the woman dared to ask me if I was pleased with my weight loss I swear I
>> wanted to hit her across the desk.  I was floored...what do I say?  How
>> do I answer that?  I finally said, well if I can get to feeling better,
>> not sick, and not tired and someone can tell me this is an ok weight
>> (even though I don't think it is) then I'll be ok.  She went on to say
>> that we don't have much more room to work with (meaning for me to
>> lose...you think???.....before something has to be done....and I'm
>> thinking something needs to be done NOW).
>>
>> I tell her about my depression and she automatically decides that if we
>> get my depression under control the weight loss will get under control.
>> Now I'm not a Dr, but I haven't heard of depression causing chronic
>> diarrhea and the depression is not causing me not to eat....so how can
>> the depression be causing the weight loss?  She went over 2-3 TOPS of my
>> food diary and even after looking at all I eat made the comment that I'm
>> only eating 3 meals a day?  How much does this woman think I can eat at
>> a time.  You can look at it and tell I'm eating more than 3 times a day
>> in order to eat that much.  I said no...4-5 times a day.  So since my
>> primary care Dr changed my anti-dep med she asks if I want to come back
>> see her in a few months?  WHAT???  I could be dead by then!  She tells
>> me to start drinking regular gatorade to get more calories in (yuck) or
>> 100% fruit juice if sugar doesn't bother me....but stay on skim milk so
>> as to not get more saturated fat, but drink more...hello, look at my
>> food diary...I am already drinking more.  She tells me I can up my
>> starches...again....if she's actually looking at what I wrote she'd see
>> that I already have.  I'm eating whatever I want, as much as I can and
>> yet I'm still losing weight.  In fact she looked at one days food....and
>> said that I didn't get all my protein in (for the total I wrote
>> 36g+)....and marked that I didn't know how much protein I got at
>> breakfast (huge breakfast buffet with egg casseroles, etc and supper at
>> Chef Wangs...lots of chicken and seafood)...so the 36 is without
>> counting both of those meals...but she didn't really look at it.
>>
>> So she tells me that I need to eat healthy, but I can pretty much eat
>> whatever I want and to up how much I eat at each meal.  I'M ALREADY
>> DOING THAT!!!  If I over eat, it just means that it is that much longer
>> before I'm hungry and can eat again.  I'm in a catch 22.  What am I
>> supposed to do?  She didn't seem to care.  With all this going on she's
>> ready to send me away and I ask about having lab work done....nope they
>> won't do it til I come back in Dec to see Dr.  WHAT???  NO!!!  I pushed
>> that one and she went and asked the Dr and he said yes to labs.  She
>> came back and said that this way we'd have them by the time I come back
>> in 5-6 weeks...hello lady, the labs (most of them) were posted online by
>> the time that I could drive home from Nashville, not 5-6 weeks and so
>> far 8 things are off, although I have no idea what they mean at all.
>> She decides she will see me on the same day in Dec that I'm there to see
>> the Dr and by then my new meds should be working and we'll see how I'm
>> doing.
>>
>> Even my primary care Dr said she is VERY concerned about my weight loss
>> and this lady just sent me on my way telling me to drink gatorade and
>> eat whatever I wanted and more of it....as if I'm not doing that.  She
>> didn't ask much; she didn't really read my food diaries, she didn't
>> comment on anything I"m eating or not eating.  Wanted to know if I had
>> thought of eating a protein bar....well....when could I fit it in???
>> I'm already eating!!!!
>>
>> I was in tears when I left there.  I feel like something is wrong and
>> something needs to be done and now I have to wait for 5-6 weeks to go
>> back and see what they say then.  In the meantime all I can do is the
>> same thing I'm doing...eat as much as I can, getting in my protein,
>> liquids, meds, vitamins and try to add in exercising (she didn't even
>> care that I wasn't exercising much).
>>
>> I went there today scared but wanting help and wanting some answers and
>> left with NOTHING at all.  I'm tired of being so tired all the time,
>> tired of feeling "icky", tired of being depressed, tired of the
>> headaches, etc, etc.
>>
>> Dave faxed the lab results that are in so far to my primary care Dr to
>> get some answers cause I think she'll get back to me sooner than Vandy
>> will, so we'll see what she says about them.  I'm very frustrated and
>> feeling VERY hopeless today and almost wishing I'd never had this
>> surgery...yes I'm healthier in alot of ways, I can move and sit and do
>> what I couldn't before, but I feel tired and bad all the time.  Getting
>> in all the meds/vitamins/protein/liquids/right stuff is a full time job
>> after surgery.  Don't know how I'd do it if I worked.  I just want my
>> life back, I want to feel normal and enjoy life with my family.  Why
>> couldn't someone have helped me today?  She just shuffled me off with
>> absolutely nothing.....
>>
>> And that's the story of my day.  Sorry to rant on and on, I'm so upset
>> and so frustrated!  But that's my update....Thank you all for listening
>> and for your prayers!!!
>>
>> Emma
>>
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From: "Frances Clark" <t_roxus@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:00 am
Subject: Vicki....Re: Dealing with issues

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You are not a failure Vicki.  When we all hit those plateaus it seems like they
last for ever.  I would keep my doctor appointment and see what suggestions he
has.  I would also see the nutritionist.  In my case they are always full of
good ideas.  Have you tried water aerobics as a form of exercise and good on the
joints.  It's exercising but it is also fun. I would see what the doctor and the
nutrionist say and go from there.  Keep us posted on how you are doing.

Frances C.

--- In centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com, "Vicki" <gasorski@...> wrote:
>
> Hi to all,
>
> Haven't posted in a while but have been reading almost everyday.
>
> I'm going through some stuff and am asking for guidance. I had my RNY in
April, 08, at Detroit Medical Center, Michigan. Although I had a couple of minor
problems in the beginning, overall my surgery has been successful. I, on the
otherhand, not feeling it. I thought when I had this done, I wouldn't have to
think about dieting anymore. But, that's all I think about.
>
> Exercising is a very difficult option but have managed to lose 90# but still
have about 40 to go. I've been told by the doctor and nutritionist that if I
can't exercise, that weight probably won't come off. So, in my mind, I feel like
a failure. I know I'm not, but my fat brain won't let me go....I guess that's
the only way I can say it.
>
> I'm more concerned about my weight than ever before, fearing I'll put it back
on. The reason I say that is I'm also dealing with a 3# fluctuation on a regular
basis. For 8 months, I stayed at a constant 188. The past month, I'm bouncing
between 188 and 191. When I hit 190, I cut way back on my food, like only shakes
and soups for the day to get rid of the weight. It's reacting like it's water
weight because it seems to come right off within 24 hours.
>
> Any ideas / suggestions are appreciated. I haven't called the doctor yet on
this but need to see him next month....just thought I'd ask the group to see if
anyone else is dealing with these issues.
>
> vicki g.
> michigan
>

#29504

From: "Frances Clark" <t_roxus@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:47 am
Subject: Disappointed...

t_roxus

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I have had to use this site for support since there is not a support group
anywhere near where I live.  I know everyone is as busy as I am but I do try to
read the post and respond.  I don't feel I can use this site for support
anymore.  I feel like I am on my own here in western KY. Tammy P, you are always
a sweetheart who responds to everyone but I am beginning to wonder if this site
is doomed.  I know that some people got upset a while back and quit posting and
then it just seemed to become a domino effect.  How can something so good end up
like this?

Frances C.

#29503

From: "Vicki" <gasorski@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:47 am
Subject: Dealing with issues

gasorski

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Hi to all,

Haven't posted in a while but have been reading almost everyday.

I'm going through some stuff and am asking for guidance. I had my RNY in April,
08, at Detroit Medical Center, Michigan. Although I had a couple of minor
problems in the beginning, overall my surgery has been successful. I, on the
otherhand, not feeling it. I thought when I had this done, I wouldn't have to
think about dieting anymore. But, that's all I think about.

Exercising is a very difficult option but have managed to lose 90# but still
have about 40 to go. I've been told by the doctor and nutritionist that if I
can't exercise, that weight probably won't come off. So, in my mind, I feel like
a failure. I know I'm not, but my fat brain won't let me go....I guess that's
the only way I can say it.

I'm more concerned about my weight than ever before, fearing I'll put it back
on. The reason I say that is I'm also dealing with a 3# fluctuation on a regular
basis. For 8 months, I stayed at a constant 188. The past month, I'm bouncing
between 188 and 191. When I hit 190, I cut way back on my food, like only shakes
and soups for the day to get rid of the weight. It's reacting like it's water
weight because it seems to come right off within 24 hours.

Any ideas / suggestions are appreciated. I haven't called the doctor yet on this
but need to see him next month....just thought I'd ask the group to see if
anyone else is dealing with these issues.

vicki g.
michigan

#29502

From: Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Update (kind of long) from me :-(

mckimmergal

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I'll put it on my calendar now and pray pray pray that I can make it
this month; I need it so badly.  Wish I could make Murf tonight but I
just put on my jammies after the 5 yr old threw the BIGGEST fit in the
driveway and I'm not getting back out lol.

Susan Seal wrote:
>
>
> It is the 4th Saturday. of the month
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Emma McCann <emmasmccann@...>
> *To:* centennial_support_group@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Mon, November 9, 2009 2:11:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [centennial_support_group] Update (kind of long) from
> me :-(
>
>
>
> Thanks so much Susan. I sure hope I can make the Nov meeting (what date
> is it? 4th Sat??). I keep trying to come but it seems like with my
> family something always comes up plus we've all been sick back and forth
> for months!
>
> Emma
>
> Susan Seal wrote:
> >
> >
> > Emma,
> > Sorry to hear about your rough time. From what I understand that
> > being underweight and trying to gain weight can be a frustrating
> > process, especially when taking in so little then you are given the
> > green light to eat more. In going to a conference this summer
> > stretching out your pouch is a fear most patients have, but 3 surgeons
> > at this conference said it was exceedingly rare to happen. I have
> > heard of a patient who has to eat 2000 calories a day to maintain
> > their weight after RNY. You may have turned into one of these after
> > your gallbladder procedure. You may want to see if you pcp can call
> > and talk with your surgeon and discuss her concerns and see if they
> > can work out a plan for you.
> > Sometimes other docs can get things out of docs that we patients can't.
> > Hang in there.
> > If you have the time or the energy, there will still be a support
> > group in November at
> > Stonecrest.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > *From:* Emma S McCann <emmasmccann@ gmail.com
> <mailto:emmasmccann%40gmail.com>>
> > *To:* Centennial Support (GROUP)
> > <centennial_support_ group@yahoogroup s.com
> <mailto:centennial_support_group%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > *Sent:* Wed, November 4, 2009 5:18:58 PM
> > *Subject:* [centennial_ support_group] Update (kind of long) from me :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > I've been putting off posting this long update, partially cause it's
> > kind of hard to come and say that I'm losing too much when others are
> > struggling to lose enough....but here it is....my story and where I'm
> > at....(remember I'm a Vandy patient so my eating is different than
> > Centennials) ....
> >
> > I've been struggling with my depression more than normal for me, along
> > with alot of headaches. I saw my primary care Dr this week....we talked
> > over everything and she changed my anti-depressant and added a
> > preventative for the headaches (which also happens to be an
> > anti-depressant as well...so hopefully double whammy for me).
> >
> > My other issues are my health. I was doing fairly well after the
> > gastric bypass until I had my gall bladder removed (months ago)...I just
> > didn't seem to recover as well from that surgery and things have done
> > down hill since then. I have had chronic diarrhea and the weight
> > continued to pour off. While to most people the weight loss continuing
> > might be a good thing, but for me it's reached a point where it is not.
> > I saw the nutritionist and Dr in July....they put me on a medication for
> > the diarrhea and told me I should stay at the weight I was at....136.
> > Here it is several months later and I now weight 114 dropping as low as
> > 112 a couple of times. At 110 I am underweight. ..can you imagine? I
> > never thought I'd have THAT problem. I'm eating....I' m eating as much
> > as I can (I think)...I'm getting my meds/vitamins in, getting in at
> > least 70 grams of protein in, and most days getting close to or over 64
> > ounces of liquids finally. I'm not exercising as much as I
> > should...combo of problems with dizziness that plague me off/on, the
> > depression and the fact that the weight loss continuing and the diarrhea
> > make me so so tired and feeling awful almost all of the time. I'm doing
> > ok eating, as long as I remember to eat slowly and take small bites.
> > I'm awfully hard headed in that area and after have some tummy aches
> > because I have eaten too fast or taken too big of bites...but I'm aware
> > and working on that. Because the weight loss continued and continued
> > and continued I have attempted to maintain eating healthy as I can, but
> > am not counting calories or fat or any such; I've added in a bit more
> > starch, work on getting in veg and fruit with my protein. I have
> > discovered that sugar does not bother me, in fact nothing bothers me on
> > a routine basis. Thankfully I do not want much that is sweet at all and
> > rarely have it and in small bits when I do. I still use Splenda
> > faithfully. I had to be referred to a surgeon for hemorrhoids (from
> > the gall bladder surgery) who told me to get in more fiber and
> > yogurt...I'm trying to do that, although I feel full almost all the
> > time. It has helped the diarrhea...most days, not all; but def not
> > ended it.
> >
> > I've worked myself into a frazzle because of where my weight loss has
> > dropped to, knowing it is way below where they want me. I'm worried
> > about all the time and I do my best to get in what I can....at the same
> > time I do not want to stretch my pouch out either. I absolutely LOVED
> > the nutritionist I had after surgery but she took another job and I was
> > given over to another one. When I emailed in Sept with the original one
> > she was concerned about what was going on with me. Today was my first
> > appointment with the new nutritionist. I was scared and nervous to
> > go...she doesn't know me and I didn't know what she was going to say or
> > what they were going to do. I had to go alone and I was feeling fragile.
> >
> > This turned out to be the absolutely worst appointment, so disappointing
> > and the greatest waste of my time and gas money to go to Nashville. I
> > weighed 114 at the appointment, went into her office and sat down. They
> > didn't take my blood pressure or go over my medications, even though she
> > was told mine had changed...never asked what the new one is or
> > anything. The whole appointment was probable 15 min long tops. When
> > the woman dared to ask me if I was pleased with my weight loss I swear I
> > wanted to hit her across the desk. I was floored...what do I say? How
> > do I answer that? I finally said, well if I can get to feeling better,
> > not sick, and not tired and someone can tell me this is an ok weight
> > (even though I don't think it is) then I'll be ok. She went on to say
> > that we don't have much more room to work with (meaning for me to
> > lose...you think???.... .before something has to be done....and I'm
> > thinking something needs to be done NOW).
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> > I tell her about my depression and she automatically decides that if we
> > get my depression under control the weight loss will get under control.
> > Now I'm not a Dr, but I haven't heard of depression causing chronic
> > diarrhea and the depression is not causing me not to eat....so how can
> > the depression be causing the weight loss? She went over 2-3 TOPS of my
> > food diary and even after looking at all I eat made the comment that I'm
> > only eating 3 meals a day? How much does this woman think I can eat at
> > a time. You can look at it and tell I'm eating more than 3 times a day
> > in order to eat that much. I said no...4-5 times a day. So since my
> > primary care Dr changed my anti-dep med she asks if I want to come back
> > see her in a few months? WHAT??? I could be dead by then! She tells
> > me to start drinking regular gatorade to get more calories in (yuck) or
> > 100% fruit juice if sugar doesn't bother me....but stay on skim milk so
> > as to not get more saturated fat, but drink more...hello, look at my
> > food diary...I am already drinking more. She tells me I can up my
> > starches...again. ...if she's actually looking at what I wrote she'd see
> > that I already have. I'm eating whatever I want, as much as I can and
> > yet I'm still losing weight. In fact she looked at one days food....and
> > said that I didn't get all my protein in (for the total I wrote
> > 36g+)....and marked that I didn't know how much protein I got at
> > breakfast (huge breakfast buffet with egg casseroles, etc and supper at
> > Chef Wangs...lots of chicken and seafood)...so the 36 is without
> > counting both of those meals...but she didn't really look at it.
> >
> > So she tells me that I need to eat healthy, but I can pretty much eat
> > whatever I want and to up how much I eat at each meal. I'M ALREADY
> > DOING THAT!!! If I over eat, it just means that it is that much longer
> > before I'm hungry and can eat again. I'm in a catch 22. What am I
> > supposed to do? She didn't seem to care. With all this going on she's
> > ready to send me away and I ask about having lab work done....nope they
> > won't do it til I come back in Dec to see Dr. WHAT??? NO!!! I pushed
> > that one and she went and asked the Dr and he said yes to labs. She
> > came back and said that this way we'd have them by the time I come back
> > in 5-6 weeks...hello lady, the labs (most of them) were posted online by
> > the time that I could drive home from Nashville, not 5-6 weeks and so
> > far 8 things are off, although I have no idea what they mean at all.
> > She decides she will see me on the same day in Dec that I'm there to see
> > the Dr and by then my new meds should be working and we'll see how I'm
> > doing.
> >
> > Even my primary care Dr said she is VERY concerned about my weight loss
> > and this lady just sent me on my way telling me to drink gatorade and
> > eat whatever I wanted and more of it....as if I'm not doing that. She
> > didn't ask much; she didn't really read my food diaries, she didn't
> > comment on anything I"m eating or not eating. Wanted to know if I had
> > thought of eating a protein bar....well. ...when could I fit it in???
> > I'm already eating!!!!
> >
> > I was in tears when I left there. I feel like something is wrong and
> > something needs to be done and now I have to wait for 5-6 weeks to go
> > back and see what they say then. In the meantime all I can do is the
> > same thing I'm doing...eat as much as I can, getting in my protein,
> > liquids, meds, vitamins and try to add in exercising (she didn't even
> > care that I wasn't exercising much).
> >
> > I went there today scared but wanting help and wanting some answers and
> > left with NOTHING at all. I'm tired of being so tired all the time,
> > tired of feeling "icky", tired of being depressed, tired of the
> > headaches, etc, etc.
> >
> > Dave faxed the lab results that are in so far to my primary care Dr to
> > get some answers cause I think she'll get back to me sooner than Vandy
> > will, so we'll see what she says about them. I'm very frustrated and
> > feeling VERY hopeless today and almost wishing I'd never had this
> > surgery...yes I'm healthier in alot of ways, I can move and sit and do
> > what I couldn't before, but I feel tired and bad all the time. Getting
> > in all the meds/vitamins/ protein/liquids/ right stuff is a full
> time job
> > after surgery. Don't know how I'd do it if I worked. I just want my
> > life back, I want to feel normal and enjoy life with my family. Why
> > couldn't someone have helped me today? She just shuffled me off with
> > absolutely nothing.....
> >
> > And that's the story of my day. Sorry to rant on and on, I'm so upset
> > and so frustrated! But that's my update....Thank you all for listening
> > and for your prayers!!!
> >
> > Emma
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