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Names like Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Nancy Kurshan, Paul Krassner, Allen Ginsberg, Phil Ochs, and Judy Collins are all iconic.
A name you might not know, however, is that of Dana Beal. In 1972 Dana founded then edited the Yipster Times (later to become Overthrow) which operated until 1979. He wasn't in Chicago in 1968 where Hoffman and Rubin passed into legend for being stomped and then persecuted as part of the Chicago Seven. Beal was already underground hiding from the authorities for revolutionary activates in opposition to the Vietnam War, in support of individual rights, and support of Marijuana legalization. He continues to fight for your rights to this day being the primary organizer behind the World Wide Marijuana March through the organization Cures Not Wars. A few days ago in Coles County Illinois, Dana Beal was arrested by the authorities. A man who has sacrificed so much of his life for the civil rights of his fellow human beings now languishes in a rural jail and he needs your help this time.
Dana Beal at this years World Wide Marijuana March
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Dana Beal has been involved in every major social justice movement since his introduction to radical politics in the early 1960's. In 1963 during a left-wing political rally he stated that should a tyrant ever become President of the United States he should be shot. While that seems like a pretty reasonable assertion to anyone he was informed on and there after whenever a sitting President or candidate came to New York City his whereabouts and activities were monitored and verified by the Secret Service. In 1967 before the 1968 Democratic Convention where the Yippies would become famous, Dana was charged with trying to sell acid to an undercover cop. Beal skipped out on the rap remaining on the run with help from various activist around the country including members of the Weather Underground only to later be apprehended by authorities in Wisconsin. He served a year in prison.
Upon his release he became more active than ever not only founding the Yipster Times but he also started Greenwich Villages Community Bail Fund a money collection that bailed out members of the counter culture who were arrested on various drug charges. This fund bailed out dozens of fellow activist and revolutionaries over the years including Beal himself. When he was freed from the jail on Center Street hundreds of fellow hippies gathered then carried him on their shoulders back to his office. Dana has spent the last twenty years focusing on the legalization of marijuana and in an almost Quixotic attempt to have the African hallucinogen Ibogaine legalized as a cure for heroin, cocaine, and alcohol addictions. Howard Lotsof an activist/scientist who has done extensive work with Ibogaine as a cure for addiction stated this afternoon that, "Dana's support of Ibogaine has enabled thousands of people to walk away from addiction."
Several days ago Dana Beal was arrested by local police in Coles County, Illinois after being stopped. According to a Sheriff's department spokesperson, Beal was in possession of over $100,000.00 cash. Unable to verify where he obtained the money Beal has been incarcerated in the Coles County Jail- bail has been set at $250,000.00 (he has been deemed a flight risk due to his past record), and he is being charged with "Laundering of criminally derived property with a value of $100,000.00." Mr. Beal is yet to step into a courtroom, however, as his bail was set by a judge who evaluated his arrest and ruled that it was valid and with cause. Thursday morning (June 12th) at 9:30am Dana will appear in local circuit court, possibly to be formally charged with the offence. Meanwhile he remains incarcerated with bond set at $250,000.00 unable to come up with the 10% ($25,000.00) needed for bail.
Beal has obtained a local attorney, Ronald Tulin, and I spoke one of his representatives today. They do not want to comment on the case before they get into a courtroom but they have verified that they are representing Mr. Beal and further stated that no formal charges have been filed on Dana as of yet.
Over the next few days I will be posting news about the case and writing about who Dana Beal is. He needs our help now, brothers and sisters. Mr. Lotsof stated that Dana's immediate need is to raise $10,000.00 dollars in order to keep his attorneys on retainer. After that an additional $25,000.00 is needed for his bail. As I have stated before, Dana Beal has given up much for his ideals and to protect your rights. The Community Bail Fund he organized in the 1960's alone qualifies him as someone at least deserving of our respect and any help we can give him.
You can help financially in two ways:
If you can assist with funds for the attorney fees please email me at Cnance@... and I will put you in contact with his lawyers.
If you don't have money please at least send Dana love, good wishes, and good vibes at freedanabeal@... and they will be forwarded to him.
If you wish to send money to Dana directly it will be added to his jail account and can be used for his bond please send it to:
Irvin Beal
Coles County Jail
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Charleston, IL 61920
Organizing has happened and it is the least we owe to a man who has given so much to us. Please stay tuned and let's help this old warrior once again become a free man!
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Whoa! The top scientist involved in the anthrax terror event was a U.S. defense department employee? And his conclusions pointed to Iraq, the target of other fabricated evidence leading to war. And this scientist committed suicide?
Holy smokes, call Batman! The foundation of Gotham City has been rocked.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:53 amNope. The anthrax came from a good old-fashioned, bonifide USA, grade-A, Hot Dog and Apple Pie American.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:55 amSo did McCain take Cipro after 911 too? The way Dick Cheney and Richard Cohen did?
More evidence of the lies told to drag us into Iraq. 4000+ American dead later (not to mention countless Iraqis) what have we gained?
August 1st, 2008 at 11:55 amRe: Anthrax, 9/11 : all roads lead to Darth.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:56 am"But nothing succeeds like success."
And nothing exceeds like excess.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:56 amMcCain pulled that fresh from his ass.
That anthrax may — I repeat may — have come from Cindy McCain's cook's sourdough starter. The second phase is in McCain's kitchen…
August 1st, 2008 at 11:57 amIs this the type of man that should be running the country ?
Either he's a gullible rube or guilty of criminal complicity ; either way , he shouldn't come within 10 miles of the Oval Office………….
August 1st, 2008 at 11:58 amPretty solid demonstration that the drumbeats for war with Iraq were beating very early, and McCain had a prominent spot in the marching band.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:59 amI can't for the life of me understand how in the hell lying this country into war isn't a crime that is instantly prosecuted. If georgie shot someone dead on the street corner with a hundred eye witnesses, would he have to be impeached before he was arrested ?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:03 pmSpeaking as a concern troll I now wonder if Bruce Ivins decided all by himself to kill leading Democratic politicians…and point the Anthrax finger at Iraq? Was he an ardent anti Iraqi and anti Democrat? Did he receive large sums of money at any point & time?
And there remain some questions as to how & when & from whom ABC got some of their "revealing" info.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:03 pmJust when I think Bizarro World cant get any more Bizarre…it does.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:07 pmThat Johnny McC… such a card.
Mebbe when he's thru pretending he's gonna president, he can try out stand-up.
I mean, he CAN'T be any worse than Dennis Miller…
August 1st, 2008 at 12:08 pmKeith H. Says:
If georgie shot someone dead on the street corner with a hundred eye witnesses, would he have to be impeached before he was arrested ?
They'd say he was just defending himself from an existential threat.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:09 pmApparently John McInsane knows a lot about fear. It's his stock in trade.
I wonder how the Vietnamese people feel about this arrogant schmuck.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:12 pmI'm more than a little creeped out that I mentioned Antrax in a thread yesterday (in the context of what Repubs may have on Pelosi), and all of this has come up today… and that the only known guy with the answers is now dead. How convenient.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:13 pmWho doesn't like a nice Anthrax Ripple with their Cockroach Cluster, and Spring Surprise?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:14 pm…McCain said, delivering the punchline to his joke
- - McCain, the McComic just McKills.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:15 pmDid it take so long to pinpoint the source of the Anthrax Terrorism or was nothing revealed because the terrorism came from within the US and they didn't want to diminish the lies about Iraq? Either way doesn't feel good.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:15 pmDavid Ferrie commits suicide when under investigation for JFK's assassination.
Bruce Ivins commits suicide when under investigation for 2001 anthrax attacks.
Curious? Yes, provactive.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:16 pmOops, I forgot to remind you all the the frogs are only the finest of baby frogs due picked and flown from… You guessed it IRAQ!
August 1st, 2008 at 12:16 pmZooey Says:
That anthrax may — I repeat may — have come from Cindy McCain's cook's sourdough starter.
- - But to be fair, Cindy Mc stole that recipe from somewhere else.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:17 pm666lattes Says:
… and that the only known guy with the answers is now dead. How convenient.
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Yeah… not unlike Jean Pelfey's death, huh?
Oh… look… something shiny!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2008 at 12:17 pmPelfrey… jean Pelfrey… the DC Madam…
August 1st, 2008 at 12:17 pm[McJustTheEffinSame]: "But nothing succeeds like success. … World power politics is very interesting. People are very friendly when they know you're the most powerful kid on the block."
A clearer adherence to the PNAC/RW-authoritarian/Dubya-Cheney world-view (and morality or lack thereof) I have not heard stated.
"… and they call him 'Maverick'…"
Cheers,
August 1st, 2008 at 12:18 pmdbadass, I'd like to remind you that when someone pops a nice little choc in their mouth, they don't expect to get their cheeks pierced.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:19 pm"some tough decisions are gonna have to be made."
They must have been tough…
August 1st, 2008 at 12:20 pmthey got them all WRONG.
Bush/Cheney were responsible for the Anthrax, Dr. Zach worked with Rummy, and he was recorded going into the Anthrax facility. And look who was sent the Anthrax, people who were questioning the Partiot Act, AND the reporter who posted pics of the Bush Twins Drunk…now ask yourself, "Why would the mailer send that to that reporter?" the answer is obvious.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:20 pmOnce again I will assert that John Sidney McCain was an itegral part of the Pentagon/Administration's secret propaganda campaign using retired repected military personell to push their agenda on television and radio. His use of the exact talking points and the television appearances directly correlate with that of other known participants in this program. More and more he is looking like the true McManchurian candidate working for the Bush Administration and their masters the neocons. If this can be proved that he was a willing participant in this program who the hell could bring themselves to vote for this former maverick?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pmBuckie…I thought the pic of the Bush bimbos was from later, like 2004 (?)?
This is prime material and should be disseminated widely to show what a war-mongering SOS McCain was and still is.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pmMcLame scares the hell out of me.
While I respect his military record, it seems that he is wrapped waaay to right……
definitely eccentric if not the beginning stages of dementia.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pmBadmoodman Says:
- - But to be fair, Cindy Mc stole that recipe from somewhere else.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Naturally. ;)
August 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pmonly anti American liberals would blame the U.S. military BEFORE blaming one of America's actual enemies for attacks on U.S. civilians. Do you people have any idea how ridiculous you appear to normal Americans?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pmA Republican loving scientist? Can't they be counted on two hands? I'll research his position on Intelligent Design. That might provide some insights.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pmMcCain's military record and the whole torture thing are probably a scam to cover for his role in the USS Forrestal incident. He was essentially removed from the ship right after the incident, lest he be killed by his shipmates (probably), and with his father embroiled in the cover-up of the USS Liberty false-flag, Johnny McLame had some protection.
The Neocons own McCain's ass!!
August 1st, 2008 at 12:36 pm#33, the government was getting ready to charge this guy for the attacks. He was a longtime defense department researcher. We're just following the rabbit trail.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pmOnly anti-American right-wing wackos would invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Do those right-wing wackos realize how stupid they are?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pmThat should have been #32. My apologies.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:38 pm'After the president returned to the White House on Sept. 11, he and his top advisers, including Clarke, began holding meetings about how to respond and retaliate. As Clarke writes in his book, he expected the administration to focus its military response on Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. He says he was surprised that the talk quickly turned to Iraq.
"Rumsfeld was saying that we needed to bomb Iraq," Clarke said to Stahl. "And we all said … no, no. Al-Qaeda is in Afghanistan. We need to bomb Afghanistan. And Rumsfeld said there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan. And there are lots of good targets in Iraq. I said, 'Well, there are lots of good targets in lots of places, but Iraq had nothing to do with it.'
http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2004/ 03/ 19/ 60minutes/ main607356.shtml
August 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm#25:
August 1st, 2008 at 12:44 pmIf only they had put Superintendent Parrot in charge of the case…
http://www.regimeofterror.com Says:
only anti American liberals would blame the U.S. military BEFORE blaming one of America's actual enemies for attacks on U.S. civilians. Do you people have any idea how ridiculous you appear to normal Americans?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm
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Are you calling the FBI a bunch of "anti-American liberals?"
August 1st, 2008 at 12:47 pmEvergreen2U Says:
Speaking as a concern troll I now wonder if Bruce Ivins decided all by himself to kill leading Democratic politicians…and point the Anthrax finger at Iraq? Was he an ardent anti Iraqi and anti Democrat? Did he receive large sums of money at any point & time?
According to the latest report from ABC News, Ivins did receive large sums of money, from Saddam Hussein!
August 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pmhttp://www.regimeofterror.com Says:
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only anti American liberals would blame the U.S. military BEFORE blaming one of America's actual enemies for attacks on U.S. civilians. Do you people have any idea how ridiculous you appear to normal Americans?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Chimpy and Cheney are whom we have blamed ; they are the enemies of the US , you GOP ball mongering moron……
August 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pmTuesday, December 19, 2006
Alex Jones was joined on air by a leading American professor, practitioner of and expert on international law to discuss his detailed knowledge of the cover up of the 2001 anthrax attacks, which he believes were perpetrated by criminal elements of the US government in an attempt to foment a police state by killing off opposition to hardline post 9/11 legislation.
15 Minute MP3 Clip From Alex Jones Show
August 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pmGlenn Greenwald has a good piece up on thishttp://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/, and apparently the scientist in question was a bit of a Christianist — Catholic variety, though. He had a bunch of letters to the editor published in his hometown newspaper.
But… how convenient for anyone seeking to cover up anything that this guy, who professed his innocence — had the courtesy to commit suicide before revealing any answers.
I guess that closes the book on that case, huh?
August 1st, 2008 at 12:50 pmregimeofterror,
Dude, have you forgotten to turn your calendar ahead yet? It's 2008, NOT 2003. (And I bet you still collect Beanie Babies, too.)
Nothing like living in the past!
August 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pmGlenn Greenwald has written about this in more than one column - the way ABC went to a lot of trouble to implicate Saddam Hussein in the anthrax "attacks":
'Jennings then added at the end of the story — remember this is October, 2001:
August 1st, 2008 at 12:52 pmThis news about bentonite as the additive is being a trademark of the Iraqi biological weapons program is very significant. Partly because there's been a lot of pressure on the Bush administration inside and out to go after Saddam Hussein. And some are going to be quick to pick up on this as a smoking gun. There is a battle about Iraq that's been raging in the administration.'
Hi regimeofterror:
August 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pmWhat's up? Scared much? Me not so much. So what other interesting thoughts might you wish to share. Well "normal" ones that is…
Yeah, much more sensible to ignore evidence when it's so emotionally satisfying to blame a phantom boogeyman.
I see your point.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:54 pmhttp://www.regimeofterror.com Says
August 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm
only anti American liberals would blame the U.S. military BEFORE blaming one of America's actual enemies for attacks on U.S. civilians. Do you people have any idea how ridiculous you appear to normal Americans?
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Apparently, this troll doesn't realize how ridiculous this post looks. Not only is it written in loonspeak (and I left my translator at home this morning), but he fails to give his definition of "normal" Americans (whatever that means). Whatever normal is, I'm guessing he doesn't make the cut.
Normally I just flag gibberish on the grounds that it takes up space, but this post was stupefying in its irony.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:54 pmMissmolly,
Go look at regimeboy's 'website'.
It looks like something put together by a dweeby 13 year old who still uses a night lite and wets the bed.
I bet that person still has all those "Saddam Most Wanted" cards up on the bulletin board, too.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:00 pmsince when does only 23% represent 'normal'?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:01 pmGotta love the GOP doesn't let any facts get in the way of their talking points. Just shoot the messengers and shout out any dissenters.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:02 pm.
Shhhh… Don't mention the ANTHRAX ATTACKS… We need to keep the impression that America has never been attacked since 9-1-1..
I mean, seven Halloweens later people still think OBL took down the WTC, too. We can't let this facade slip any further, can we? What truths will it reveal if it does…? Inside jobs?
.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:03 pm"We all thought that anyway"
Why do some people consistently make declaritive statements which can never be substantiated? It sort of bugs me. Is it that they have some weird sense of all knowingness?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:04 pmmary Says:
There is a battle about Iraq that's been raging in the administration.'
"Colin, take this shaker of salt and this cartoon drawing of Iraqi WMD to the UN and scare the living hell out of those damn foreigners."
"No Mr. Cheney, please don't make me destroy my own reputation by lying to the entire world!"
"Colin, have you seen my new man-sized safe?"
"Oh gawd! Please no! I'll do whatever you say Mr. Cheney!"
August 1st, 2008 at 1:04 pmTripleKick X Says:
It was not unreasonable for McCain to think it was another muslim terrorist attack. We all thought that anyway.
Um, no. Liberal blogs were positing from day one that it was likely an unbalanced wingnut, given the targets.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:05 pmIt's about talking points. Who issued today's?
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), a former FBI agent, said that "if this is the guy, it provides some sense of relief that we know how he got it and who he was. We may never know what his motivations were. But it would be a relief to know that this chapter is closed."
August 1st, 2008 at 1:05 pmTKX said:
I don't see this particular TP criticism of McCain as being very useful.
The whole country needs to read this thread so that they can learn how complicit McCain was in leading this country into financial ruin and jeopardizing this country's reputation for many, many years by catapulting the propaganda leading to our invasion of Iraq.
There - understand now?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pmTripleKick X Says:
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It was not unreasonable for McCain to think it was another muslim terrorist attack. We all thought that anyway.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:59 pm
What's with this "we all" shit , nitwit ?
"We all" DIDN'T THINK THAT WAY , and you can stop trying to speak for me now , d-bag……….
August 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pmtriplekick,
How TF can you think anyone thought this was an actual threat from anyone other than the Repugs:
If I were a 'terrorist', why would I send Anthrax to people trying to hold back the Patriot Act??
Think about it!
August 1st, 2008 at 1:07 pmhttp://www.regimeofterror.com Says:
Do you people have any idea how ridiculous you appear to normal Americans?
How do you know? Did you ask one?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:07 pmGranted this is a bit down the list of offensive aspects of this series of events, but "go back to selling camels"? Always with the xenophobic, racial comments. Can we please have some professionals with integrity in our government?
Perhaps if our leaders acted with dignity, even in the face of horrible adversity, people around the world might respect us and be less willing to throw their lives away in anti-American hatred.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pmTrippy,
What's the difference between a man who crashes a play at a church and shoots to kill and a woman who straps on a bomb and crashes a market place and explodes it to kill people…?
They both are terrorists… 'cept one is muslim, brown, female, and not in America, the other, a disgruntled CONSERVATIVE.
Keep defending the faith man. Keep defending the GOP faith.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pmshoeless - it still kind of amazes me how Colin Powell allowed himself to be used!
August 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pmTripleKick X Says:
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Besides, there were notes left by the attacker that seemed to indicate that McCain was correct:
The New York Post and NBC News letters contained the following note:
09-11-01
THIS IS NEXT
TAKE PENACILIN NOW
DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO ISRAEL
ALLAH IS GREAT
The second anthrax note
The second note that was addressed to Senators Daschle and Leahy read:
09-11-01
YOU CAN NOT STOP US.
WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX.
YOU DIE NOW.
ARE YOU AFRAID?
DEATH TO AMERICA.
DEATH TO ISRAEL.
ALLAH IS GREAT.
I don't see this particular TP criticism of McCain as being very useful.
August 1st, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Maybe to you , retarded Sherlock ; anyone with any viable brain matter in their head would immediately become suspicious of anyone that would write something so blatantly obvious but limited without any demands or warnings of future impending attacks …..You are nothing more than a GOP tool
August 1st, 2008 at 1:10 pmTrippy said:
Well, I see the clock is at least twice as correct as you…
August 1st, 2008 at 1:10 pmTripleKick X Says:
It was not unreasonable for McCain to think it was another muslim terrorist attack. We all thought that anyway.
At the time of this interview, McCain was in the dark about the identity of the perp, like the rest of us. He didn't know what was in the letters, because the FBI had them.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:11 pmSo our bedwetting trolls are now saying 'we' all 'knew'. Nimrod, we all didn't know this. Only the crybabies who ran under their covers thought this. You thought this.
Stop acting like you folks on the right side continue to get this right. You have been proven wrong over and over again - but still you persist in spewing lies.
You are simply a megaphone for the Low Information Voters. You disappoint me.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:11 pmTripleKick X Says:
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Barfly,
even a broken clock is correct sometimes. I'm not sure what your point is because those same blogs you refer to more thank likely have posters who think 911 was an inside job.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pm
And was 9/11 the work of Iraqis , dum-dum ?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:12 pm#63
August 1st, 2008 at 1:13 pmTripleKick X:
This is sort of weak don't you think? You seem to be trying to deflect the point. Is that what you are doing?
TripleKick X Says:
It was not unreasonable for McCain to think it was another muslim terrorist attack. We all thought that anyway.
Besides, there were notes left by the attacker that seemed to indicate that McCain was correct:
The New York Post and NBC News letters contained the following note:
09-11-01
THIS IS NEXT
TAKE PENACILIN NOW
DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO ISRAEL
ALLAH IS GREAT
Why, because Muslim terrorists can't spell penicillin?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:13 pmtp,
youve asserted once again that obl is alive and free. what are your thoughts on the benazir bhutto interview where she claims he was already murdered?
link:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
August 1st, 2008 at 1:14 pmThe FBI was wrong about the anthrax, they were wrong about Richard Jewel too. Seems the FBI cannot do domestic intel worth a sh!t. Why do we have a governmental body which has been consistently wrong. Oh, I forgot. That is a requirement of the Bush administration. We should be grateful. Bush could have named Monica Goodling as the FBI head.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:15 pmwhat happened to regimeofwhatever?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:15 pmTK, like most right-wingers, has no trouble morphing "muslim" into "Iraq".
There was ZERO evidence pointing to Iraq for either the 9/11 attack or anthrax. So why would McSame go on national TV and make such a reckless charge?
Because the Neoconmen wanted to go after Saddam, that's why.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:15 pmshoeless Says:
According to the latest report from ABC News, Ivins did receive large sums of money, from Saddam Hussein!
How convenient, just when they're both dead and can't defend themselves.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:15 pmI'm not sure what your point is because those same blogs you refer to more thank likely have posters who think 911 was an inside job.
I've highlighted the weasel word. "Likely."
Try going to Kos, Eschaton, Americablog, or any of the prominent liberal blogs and finding anything. Sure, Billy Nobody's blog might have this, but no prominent liberal blogs were saying it.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:16 pmTripleKick X Says:
Barfly,
even a broken clock is correct sometimes. I'm not sure what your point is because those same blogs you refer to more thank likely have posters who think 911 was an inside job.
The point is that you're generalizing. Again. And you're wrong. Again.
"We all" did not think Muslims were to blame. You maybe did because you leaped to that conclusion.
Some of the people on the liberal blogs may or may not have doubts about 911. What the hell does that have to do with the fact that they were right?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:17 pmdbadass,
Me thinks regime boy went back under the bunk bed. Boogeymen can have that effect on the LIV's.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:17 pmTripleKick X Says:
mary
I still don't get it because the information known at the time about the very real anthrax threat from Saddam's Iraq was well documented. His statement was wrong, sure ,but it isn't as if it was ridiculous to make such a statement. Plus, he said "may — and I emphasize may — have come from Iraq." Someone asked him a question and he gave his answer. No one is clairvoyant.
He said "the second phase is Iraq". He didn't say "the second phase may be Iraq."
It's interesting that you start so many comments with "I don't get it" or "I still don't get it". Because you really don't get much.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:19 pmTripleKick X Says:
I still don't get it because the information known at the time about the very real anthrax threat from Saddam's Iraq was well documented.
You're talking about biological weapons? That drones of death neocon fantasy?
Please.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:19 pmAfter reading the WaPo piece, I'm curious about:
1) The Ivins family, obviously suffering at the moment. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
2) Dr. Ivins defense attorney who flatly claims the scientists innocence. What will happen to any evidence currently in possession of the defense attorney? Will the government confiscate it for national security reasons, especially now that there's no case to defend?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm"No one is clairvoyant"
Which is exactly why the "we all thought that way" comment makes no sense. Please try to be consistent. Thanks
August 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pmTripleKick X Says:
mary
I still don't get it because the information known at the time about the very real anthrax threat from Saddam's Iraq was well documented.
How can a lie be "well documented"? Dumbass.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pmWell Trippy,
IF T.P. HAD COVERED THE NON-IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS(*hint *hint) then you would understand the difference between what 16 Intel agencies said "might" be a threat vs. what the president omitted to assert to Congress to be an "affirmative" threat(an impeachable offense to knowingly present misleading information to the Senate).
See Trippy, there is a difference between saying Mars "might" have life versus saying mars "has" life on it. It's in the proof… 16 agencies disagree with you AND your fuhrer. I suppose that makes you cool-aide drinkers correct… yea, you and Jim Jones.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:21 pmlil triplekick,
Don't presume to speak for us about 20/20, Carmac!
I questioned where the attackers were from right away, and guess what! NONE of them were Iraqi's.
Don't deflect the blame unto those of us who did our own thinking, Ace.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:21 pmIt just shows that McLunatic is another TRAITOR to the USA like Bush and Cheney, and KNEW the TREASON planned by the Bushes.
McLiar needs to go spend his $100 Million and leave the business of the country to REAL Americans like Obama, who CARE about the US and its PEOPLE.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:22 pmROTFLMAO TK.
Evidence is evidence. There was certainly no more evidence then than there is today. Perhaps you ought to get your hindsight checked. It seems to be closer to 20/400.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:22 pmHey dribbledick-I don't recall Iraq ever beating the "death to Israel" drum before.
Nice try gunga din. Try and peddle your apologist bullshit somewhere else. We're not buying it here. It's a little ironic how McCain's timing (10/07)and use of the GOP talking points on this subject were so helpful to the Administration's Iraq war efforts.
"I don't see this particular TP criticism of McCain as being very useful."
You don't see much that is right in front of your face do you? Not useful to whom? The McCain campaign? Oh yeah, you're not a Republican, right? Another Libertarian who just happened to vote for Bush twice, huh?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pmTK in 74
August 1st, 2008 at 1:24 pmSo, if it "may" have come from Iraq, does it not then mean it "may not" have come from Iraq. Please, be reasonable here, and think about this objectively. You do not offer up a country's name unless you're trying to make a point. Why not any of the other countries of the world in which anthrax could be found? It couldn't be because the R's were fixated on Iraq for over 10 years could it?
dbadass, I don't know if others have mentioned it, but I have taken note of your newfound civil tone when dealing with trolls, and I must say I admire it.
I'm not always able to maintain such bemused decorum.
I salute you.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:24 pmAnother thing concerned me about the WaPo article:
It said Dr. Ivins did "unauthorized testing" for the presence of anthrax in several areas of the lab. I know how much my scientist and physician friends like bureaucrats.
Obviously, lots of pieces are missing and will likely remain that way. The FBI even refused to update Congress on their investigation, when two members were targets of the attacks.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:24 pmMy neighbor's dog was poisoned last weekend and it may have been Iran's fault.
I said "may", so I have a little cover in case it's ever pointed out that I am dead ass wrong. But, that aside, do you think we should bomb Iran? They may be puppy killers for all we know. Don't want the smoking gun to be a pile of dead puppies.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:27 pmMcTreason is just another TRAITOR to the USA, like MURDERER Bush the COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA.
More of the SAME TREASON from the Rapeublican TRAITORS.
Is anyone "surprised"?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:28 pmTripleKick X Says:
Sure 20/20 looking back and all, but I doubt you knew all that for sure 7 years ago when this happened.
Stop projecting your gullibility and stupidity on everyone else, you fool.
I realize that it is impossible to connect even readily apparent dots, when you own neuron synapses do not connect. So, you will just have to accept the idea that some people are actually capable of cognitive reasoning.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:28 pmTriplekick,
I ask you again, why would any 'terrorist' send the Antrax to two Dems, who were trying to STOP the Patriot Act? Sounds more like the 'terrorists' were the NeoCon Repugs, wanting to get more control over the sheeple of the US.
Make sense?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:29 pmCue bush: Looking around in the Oval Office, "That anthrax's got to be here somewhere, no, no anthrax over there, maybe under here?"
August 1st, 2008 at 1:30 pmMcCain: People are very friendly when they know you're the most powerful kid on the block.
They're not called friends, they're called victims afraid of your bullying.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:31 pmTripleKick X Says:
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It was not unreasonable for McCain to think it was another muslim terrorist attack. We all thought that anyway.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:31 pmTk in 97
August 1st, 2008 at 1:33 pmAnd he shouldn't give his best answer unless it is backed by evidence. That is how innocent people's lives get ruined, guilty people get off the hook, and false wars are started. That is just irresponsible and should not be considered leadership. Everyone is quick to clam up during any investigation into their cronies corruption, but when there is a national security concern it is reasonable to blather about who "may" have done it. Sorry, but I disagree with your perspective.
A vote for the failed policies, LIES and TREASON of McLunatic is a vote for the ENEMIES OF AMERICA, whether Bin Laden or
his family business partner, the Bushes…
August 1st, 2008 at 1:33 pmTripleKick X Says:
(From the article)
"…best known for her alleged involvement with the weapons of mass destruction programme which the US insists Iraq pursued."
"In 1996, she became the head of Iraq's Microbiology Society, a group alleged to be a front for research into potential biological weapons such as anthrax and smallpox."
"Dubbed "Mrs Anthrax" by Washington, US intelligence services say she masterminded the reconstruction of Iraq's biological weapons facilities after the 1991 Gulf War."
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Is this what you call "well documented"?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:36 pmOkay TripleKick X not that I buy that but the point I am trying to help you with is that your agenda interfers with logical thought which is why I seem to always be finding you running in circles chasing your own tail. It may help to think things through first and reread your words before hitting "Submit Comment". Traumatized or not I think most expect their leaders to be clear headed and not mislead by an alledged "group think". That's what leading is right?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:36 pmTK calling anyone else "uninformed" is a little like G Dumbya calling someone "inarticulate".
I'm speaking figuratively, of course. No one expects Bush to be able to pronounce "inarticulate".
August 1st, 2008 at 1:36 pmTripleKick X Says:
When the anthrax attacks came shortly after, I know many of my liberal friends who believed it was indeed an Al Queda or Saddam's Iraq.
So, you like to make friends with other naive morons, without regard to their idealogical philosophy.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:36 pmSo, tripe-yX, so what if there was a letter that said ALLAH IS GREAT.
Look at what YOU wrote.
You wrote all that stuff. Does that mean that YOU are an Islamofascist - you know, you MUST be, because you wrote all that stuff, right? That's EVIDENCE, right?
What a credulous gullible moron you are.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:37 pm.
Trippy,
Please explain how U.S. Military Grade Anthrax was used by terrorists?
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August 1st, 2008 at 1:38 pmBut why were the targets of the anthrax attacks LIBERALS? Riddle me that, Batman.
And we didn't want to go after Saddam. We are the ones who put him in power in the first place. We wanted to control that part of the world. Why? Well, the first reason is that it has the second largest reserves of oil. Their oil is easy to extract and needs little refining. And they sit in between the largest (Saudi Arabia) and third largest (Iran) oil reserves.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:38 pmWow, this dribbledick character is really scared, isn't it?
Why are these right wingers such massive cowards hiding under Dubya's cheerleading skirt?
Do they really think drunken frat boy is capable of protecting them? He sent a military in to do a policeman's job, elevating simple thug criminals into holy warriors and helping recruit more terrorists to justify his power grab in the US.
You'd have to be a quivering ninny to support such a thing.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:38 pmTripleKick X Says:
dbadass
The country was traumatized after 911 and looking to our leaders for answers. When the anthrax attacks came shortly after, I know many of my liberal friends who believed it was indeed an Al Queda or Saddam's Iraq. Its simply not unreasonable to suspect our enemies, no matter what you want to believe here on TP. So while "we all" perhaps didn't agree at the time that the attack was a muslim terrorist or Iraq, many did and McCain was just giving his best answer to a question that was asked. Its not really a huge controversy that he was wrong. We still don't know who actually did the attacks anyway, at least not for sure. There are more legitimate things to criticize McCain for than this.
If he didn't know who the attacks came from, it was utterly irresponsible to speculate and to suggest that this made Iraq a legitimate target. And you keep avoiding a basic point: McCain said that Iraq was the second phase. He's not giving a "best answer", he's paving the way for the invasion of Iraq with a loose potential possible maybe connection to anthrax.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:39 pmMcCain was simply continuing the terroristic threats that scared spineless cowards like dribbledick into supporting their obviously un-American and un-Constitutional agenda.
Republicans are terrorists because fear works well on the uninformed, aka, their base.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pmLeftside Annie Says:
So, tripe-yX,
What a credulous gullible moron you are.
Otherwise known as the Republican base.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:43 pmralph:
August 1st, 2008 at 1:43 pmI regret that you may have ever thought I had anything but a civil tone. I am a strong advocate of civility and manners with a strong dose of sarcasm mixed in. Still there are multiple ways to help others to reflect more deeply upon their assumptions.
Wasn't the Florida newspaper office that was the target a tabloid that had printed pictures of the Bush twins drunk on the floor of a bar? Just asking.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:43 pmTripleKick X Says:
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lol ralph,
There was ZERO evidence pointing to Iraq for either the 9/11 attack or anthrax. So why would McSame go on national TV and make such a reckless charge?
Sure 20/20 looking back and all, but I doubt you knew all that for sure 7 years ago when this happened. This whole thread is so reaching, and so opportunistic with regards to the suicide and all.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:18 pm
You try to chastise us for being correct and TP for posting a thread on the GOP's presidential candidate making an unsubstantiated statement that turned out to be completely erroneous , several days after the "suicide" of the man who was going to be charged with the anthrax attacks , and it's just 3 short months before a new president is elected ; why does the McStupid camp question Obama's 'judgement' , when this proves that Johnny boy doesn't know shit from shinola ?
When opportunity knocks , one answers the door …….
August 1st, 2008 at 1:44 pmTripleKick X Says:
Lefside, no offense but I have no clue what you mean. Honestly, after the anthrax attacks maybe we should have simply deferred to TP's perfect all-knowing community for guidance.
Well, we have gotten a Hell of a lot more right than the Repugs and the US intelligence agencies, so, maybe you do have a point there.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:44 pmUm, would't a letter postmarked Baghdad raise someone's suspicions?
What we're asked to believe, is that "Dr. Anthrax" made the stuff, and Saddam's American sleeper cell henchmen delivered it in letters to the dems. Better than the Drones of Death nonsense - which sounded like something from an old Jerry Lewis movie - but not by much.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:46 pmTripleKick X Says:
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dbadass
The country was traumatized after 911 and looking to our leaders for answers.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
The above is the crux of your problem ; why would you GOP backing morons believe that Chimpy could even answer the question of his own birthplace , much less an anthrax attack ………?
Looking towards an unintelligible imbecile for "answers" makes less sense than pissing in the wind……….
August 1st, 2008 at 1:48 pmForgive me. Perhaps I should have said a new patient tone.
You have always been civil, that I can't deny. But you seem to have a new patience — more centered, more cooperational.
For myself, I sometimes get into that mode and find it energizing, but the inevitable temptation to Whack-A-Troll, sadly, always proves too great in the end.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pmTripleKick X Says:
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Lefside, no offense but I have no clue what you mean. Honestly, after the anthrax attacks maybe we should have simply deferred to TP's perfect all-knowing community for guidance.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Yeah , it makes much more sense to look for answers to questions to come from a life-long failure , liar and moronic , uncouth lout like Chimpy , doesn't it ?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pmKeith Says:
But why were the targets of the anthrax attacks LIBERALS? Riddle me that, Batman.
"Mr. Cheney, someone sent anthrax to Patrick Leahy!"
"Scooter, only one devil is capable of such an evil plot to kill my good friend Pat! That sinister figure is none other than Saddam Hussein!"
"Good friend? But Mr. Cheney, didn't you just tell Senator Leahy to go fu(k himself, right on the floor of the Senate?"
"Yes Scooter, of course I told Pat to go fu(k himself. We always joke around like that. Now, get the Pentagon on the phone. We must move heaven and earth to save my dear friend Patrick from the dastardly Saddam Hussein!"
August 1st, 2008 at 1:52 pmTripleKick X Says:
Lefside, no offense but I have no clue what you mean. Honestly, after the anthrax attacks maybe we should have simply deferred to TP's perfect all-knowing community for guidance.
Again "I have no clue". So true.
If you don't know FOR SURE, you don't invade another country and precipitate years of occupation and chaos. First you find out FOR SURE. You don't start a war because (a) you think, in spite of a great deal of evidence, that there might be WMDs and (b) you think that a couple of badly-written letters are proof that one country had sent anthrax to a few people in your country.
You really do "have no clue."
August 1st, 2008 at 1:52 pmAnd what ever happened to the evil Dr.?
[dec.20, 2005]
The Release of 'Dr Anthrax'
by Felicity Arbuthnot
On Saturday, [dec.20, 2005] eight 'high value' Iraqis held without charge for over two years by the United States were released. They included Dr Huda Ammash, a distinguished internationally renowned, environmental biologist, Professor at Baghdad University, whose earned her PhD at the University of Missouri. Her father, former Iraqi Ambassador to the US, under the government of Abdul Karim Kassem (1958-1963) was executed in a purge to stamp authority by Saddam in 1981. In the 1990's Dr Ammash was, ironically offered a seat in the Legislature. When Saddam offered a position to say: 'No thanks, I've my career plan mapped out, was not an option', but her academic career remained her passion and primary focus.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:54 pm[. . .]
Don't know if this has already been pointed out in previous comments (haven't read through them yet), but I find it strange that McCain was making this link between anthrax and Iraq on Oct. 18, but the news didn't hit the public until Oct. 26 about the substance claimed to be in the anthrax that tied back to Iraq. To my knowledge, McCain was not on the Senate Intelligence Committee at that time, and would not have been informed of this yet in the normal course of events. The ABC report was clearly a planted leak. So WHY was he linking Iraq with the anthrax issue?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:55 pmTKX - Apparently you are incapable of believing that there are people in this country that did not immmediately think that the anthrax came from Iraq. As many others here have pointed out, did it not strike you as a little odd that no Republicans were targeted with those anthrax letters?
Also, you said: "Its simply not unreasonable to suspect our enemies, no matter what you want to believe here on TP."
Why did you consider Iraq our enemy? We wouldn't sell weapons to an enemy would we? Reagan seemed to think he was good enough to do business with after all. And did Kuwait become our 51st state when I wasn't looking? Because I do not recall being attacked by Iraq.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:55 pmTripleKick X Says:
Lefside, no offense but I have no clue what you mean.
Yes, we have established that many times, on a multitude of subjects.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:55 pmRantingTommy Says:
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Do they really think drunken frat boy is capable of protecting them?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:38 pm
That moron couldn't protect a bicycle from the rain with an airplane hangar and circus tent both at his disposal ………
August 1st, 2008 at 1:57 pmdbadass Says:
Still there are multiple ways to help others to reflect more deeply upon their assumptions.
It is impossible for a shallow pool to have deep reflections.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:58 pmPlease forgive me TripleKick as I am not a fan of justification by shifting attention but I always get a little weirded out when the same types who complain about the UN turn around to employ the same body and its resolutions when it suits them. Admittedly off topic but might you comment on the multitude of UN resolutions relative to the actions and behaviors of Israel?
August 1st, 2008 at 2:07 pmTripleKick X Says:
Oh gummitch, so naive, so angry.
Are you familiar with the cease fire agreement of the first gulf war? Are you familiar with UN resolution 1441 and the 16 previous resolutions citing non compliance, which effectively nullified the ceasefire? You argue about anthrax origins, sure, fine np. However when you argue about Saddam's Iraq being some innocent country that the Bush bullies roughed up for fun, that's just silly.
Oh, CT, so ignorant, so smug.
Please point out the part where I suggested anything at all about the "innocent country" or "roughed up for fun". Please. Any time now.
What I said was "you do not invade another country and start an occupation without PROOF." Unless, of course, you have an entirely different agenda which has nothing to do with the other country's potential to hurt you.
And I'm pretty sure you spent a great deal of time yesterday arguing that Saddam's Iraq was weak and on the verge of collapse, which does make it difficult to square with the "they were trying to kill us!" b.s.
In case you've forgotten, we were already at war in Afghanistan. A couple of envelopes and some badly-scrawled notes scarcely justify diverting troops and materiel from that.
August 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pmTripleKick X Says:
Oh gummitch, so naive,
LOL! This from the fool who believed the absurd story that Saddam Hussein was laying awake nights plotting to kill the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
August 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pmTripleKick X Says:
"Are you familiar with UN resolution 1441″
Are you? Are you familiar enough to know that there is no part of resolution 1441 that authorized an invasion of Iraq? I'm just making sure that we can agree up until that point, at least.
August 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pmA US government anthrax scientist was about to be charged with anthrax attacks that murdered five people and was blamed on Saddam Hussein and Iraq. This incident at least contributed to the hysteria for war with Iraq.
This revelation comes on the heels of reports that VP Face of Evil concocted a "plan" to dress US military personnel as Iranians and have them shoot at other US military personnel to provoke war with Iran.
Curious? Yes, provocative.
August 1st, 2008 at 2:16 pm"I don't see this particular TP criticism of McCain as being very useful."
The point, which has clearly been lost on you, is to show that John McCain is out of touch with reality and the facts. If you take this one report and combine it with all of McCain's other false statements (or statements that contradict his own previous statements, or statements that contradict his own campaign's), you should see a very clear portrait of a man who simply doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
August 1st, 2008 at 2:19 pmBush's sprint to the finish involves wrapping up as many loose ends as possible. Iraq's a blooming success, the anthrax guy is gone, any official recession is likely pushed into the next guy's term (thanks to the second quarter stimulus package).
With all this success, Bush stands ready to help Israel contain any blowback after an attack on Iranian nuclear facilities.
http://www.bloomberg.com/ apps/ news?pid=20601087&sid=a4R756DVAQsM&refer=home
Twenty dollar a gallon gas should decimate Nancy Pelosi's efforts to contain drilling expansion. That's why she's considering bringing such a bill to the House floor in September.
Hold onto your hats, things could get really wild!
August 1st, 2008 at 2:24 pmTripleKick X Says:
Its simply not unreasonable to suspect our enemies, no matter what you want to believe here on TP. So while "we all" perhaps didn't agree at the time that the attack was a muslim terrorist or Iraq, many did and McCain was just giving his best answer to a question that was asked. Its not really a huge controversy that he was wrong.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
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Maybe it's not a huge controversy if you like the idea of having a President who's willing to make hasty decisions on matters of national security and criminal prosecution before all the facts are investigated. Me, I want a President who thinks before he acts.
On October 12, there was no "indication" that the anthrax may have come from Iraq. "Speculation" yes, but not "indication."
August 1st, 2008 at 2:28 pmOn October 12, there was no "indication" that the anthrax may have come from Iraq. "Speculation" yes, but not "indication."
And what was the source for that "speculation"? The Bush Administration, right? Why does anyone believe a single thing they say any more?
August 1st, 2008 at 2:31 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
And what was the source for that "speculation"? The Bush Administration, right? Why does anyone believe a single thing they say any more?
August 1st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Of course, a week or so later, their own Homeland Security Director announced that the anthrax used in all the attacks was the Ames strain, which originated in Texas. And two weeks after that Iraq was effectively dismissed as the source: http://pubs.acs.org/ cen/ government/ 84/ 8449gov1.html
But don't expect the war hawks to let a few facts get in the way of a good jump to conclusions.
August 1st, 2008 at 2:38 pmA plain and simple sickness, mr mccain.
August 1st, 2008 at 2:41 pmYou wanna know who my heroes are:
All the everyday people seeking the truth about 9/11
August 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pmDennis Kucinich
Cynthia McKinney
David Ray Griffin
Webster Tarpley
Naomi Wolf
etc…
shoeless Says:
TAKE PENACILIN NOW
Why, because Muslim terrorists can't spell penicillin?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:13 pm
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Actually, a native Arabic speaker writing phonetically would be unlikely to spell it "penacilin." There's really no equivalent to the letter "c" in Arabic, which in English is used for K and S sounds. If it were written "penasilin" I might suspect an Arabic speaker, but not "penacilin."
August 1st, 2008 at 2:47 pmbridger1974 Says:
tp,
youve asserted once again that obl is alive and free. what are your thoughts on the benazir bhutto interview where she claims he was already murdered?
link:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
I saw this interview, but never heard her say that OBL had been murdered! Is it possible that the tape was edited for American consumption?
August 1st, 2008 at 2:47 pm#151
August 1st, 2008 at 2:57 pmThe question was posed at 1:38
Her answer at 2:14
Triplekick, aka CT, aka whatever: pwned
August 1st, 2008 at 3:04 pmTripleKick X Says:
Here you go shoeless:
Iraq's anthrax gal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 1/ hi/ world/ middle_east/ 3002103.stm
TPX - are you aware that she was released by the U.S. in 2005 without ever being charged…released as no longer being a security threat?
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060109/scheer1228
August 1st, 2008 at 3:06 pmdribble dick is so wrong, so often
August 1st, 2008 at 3:22 pm#
Max-1 Says:
#151
The question was posed at 1:38
Her answer at 2:14
No, I did hear it on the link just provided. What I mean is, I SAW this interview on my local PBS station at that time, and she did NOT mention OBL. That's why I'm more than curious about whether the tape was actually edited for U.S. consumption. In addition, where in the American MSM…or anywhere really…did THAT story get out.
August 1st, 2008 at 3:26 pmTKX - that soldier's death is on Bush, Cheney and McCain's heads just to name three of the individuals responsible. If not for the lies that came out of their mouths that soldier would never have been in Iraq.
So knock off the romanticism and get real!
August 1st, 2008 at 3:27 pmTripleKick X Says: documented involvement
Bwahahaha..
August 1st, 2008 at 3:28 pmYou are truely a masochist. Coming here everyday spewing your tripe for your Masters just to be pwned.
What a C0cksucker
TripleKick X Says:
impeachcheneythenbush,
The anthrax attacks were in 2001, not 2005. So I'm not sure what point you thought you made, but we're discussing Iraq's documented involvement with making anthrax before 2001 and how it related to McCain's answer on the Late Show.
I really hate to insult you, but are you actually that dense? READ the article.
August 1st, 2008 at 3:29 pmTripleKick X Says:
I feel nauseated.
It's no wonder considering that you consume a diet of constant lies.
The reason you are constantly confused and always turn out to be wrong, is the people you trust always lie to you, and you won't trust the people who try to tell you the truth.
August 1st, 2008 at 3:32 pmWasn't there a "true hero" who huffed aerosol until his death? Sad that the system supports "heros" so well…
August 1st, 2008 at 3:39 pmRemember the first guy they tried to pin the anthrax attacks on just settled with the government. Guess their second fall guy didn't want to deal with what Hatfill went through. This is all just too coincidental.
http://www.latimes.com/ news/ printedition/ front/ la-na-anthrax28-2008jun28,0,5742061.story
WASHINGTON — The former Army scientist who was the prime suspect in the deadly 2001 anthrax mailings agreed Friday to take $5.82 million from the government to settle his claim that the Justice Department and the FBI invaded his privacy and ruined his career.
Dr. Steven J. Hatfill, 54, who was called a "person of interest" in the case by then-Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft in 2002, said that label and repeated leaks of investigative details to the media damaged his reputation.
For months in the anxious atmosphere after Sept. 11, Hatfill was subjected to 24-hour surveillance and was widely identified as the leading suspect in the nation's first bioterrorism attack. However, he was never arrested or charged and a federal judge presiding over his lawsuit said recently that there "is not a scintilla of evidence" linking him to the mailings.
August 1st, 2008 at 3:43 pmWow! DribbleDick X's argument basically states that the Islamofacists hate liberals, too, because of the attack on the left. Or so that's what "all of us" thought at the time.
What I find NOT humorous is McCain joking with a classic Monty Python skit.
August 1st, 2008 at 3:53 pmAlthough "bring out your dead" is hilarious under the right context, I wonder if the families of the Anthrax victims found McSame funny?
"Try honoring a true hero."
I tried, but I keep coming back to the thought that it didn't have to happen at all.
August 1st, 2008 at 3:59 pm"Try honoring a true hero."
I also did when Pat Tillman died. Then I found out the government was using that honor and lied about how he died, but not after using his memory and sacrifice to enlist more troops.
August 1st, 2008 at 4:05 pmfor those not listening to randi's show, she spent most of the past 2 hours discussing this story, connecting some very curious dots…
see her notes here:
TOP STORY
2001 Anthrax Case Solved?
http://therandirhodesshow.com/ index.php?/ archives/ 53-Friday,-August-1,-2008.html#extended
August 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pmPBS's Washington Week called the anthrax case, "Case Closed." None asked about the possibility of a wider government conspiracy.
August 1st, 2008 at 8:28 pmTripleKick X Says:
The anthrax attacks were in 2001, not 2005. So I'm not sure what point you thought you made, but we're discussing Iraq's documented involvement with making anthrax before 2001 and how it related to McCain's answer on the Late Show.
Your link referenced Dr. Anthrax, to prove your point.
Dr. Anthrax was never charged, as my link showed, her involvement was titular at best. So your "everyone knew" was supported by bogus intel, and as I said before, we didn't accept it at the time it was offered. So, specious claims, backed by nothing.
August 1st, 2008 at 8:40 pmFunny how the Patriot Act came out of committee after 2 senators' offices were attacked with the substance. One of them is chair of the judiciary. One of them is now out of the senate, drummed out by a Bush crony. They will say and do anything to keep power. This is not over if I have anything to say about it. The DOJ is so corrupt, they will never do a thing.
August 1st, 2008 at 8:47 pm9/11 was an inside job. The Terrorists who did it are still in government and in the Pentagon.
August 2nd, 2008 at 4:22 amJohn McCain is an ignorant Zionist whore.
August 2nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm"McBush" indeed. The lies, the arrogance, the ignorance. He has ZERO chance in November.
August 2nd, 2008 at 4:27 pmAugust 1, 2008 Salon.com
Vital Unresolved Anthrax Questions and ABC News
by Glenn Greenwald
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/01/10738/
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:18 amI wonder if Emperor McCain -or- Emperor Obama will engineer another 9/11?
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:44 am#163:
He has ZERO chance in November.
"Diebold is here to save the day!"
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 amThis political system is so gd corrupt. I laugh when I see this country so concerned about having "fair" elections in say, Iraq.
The Washington Post has a piece on the Anthax scientist:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2008/ 08/ 02/ AR2008080201632.html?hpid=topnews
As the rush to close the case occurs, friends and fellow scientists doubt Dr. Ivins guilt.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:44 pm