Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
cannabisaction · Global Cannabis. Million Marijuana March
  • Members Only
  • Files
  • Photos
  • Links
  • Database
  • Calendar
  • Promote
  • Groups Labs (Beta)
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Show off your group to the world. Share a photo of your group with us.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

   Messages Help
Message #
Search:
Advanced
Condi Rice still lying about Saddam ties to Al Qaeda before Iraq wa   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #1319 of 1509 |
 
The day before the 5th anniversary of 9/11
the Bush administration is STILL lying,
and saying that Saddam Hussein had a relationship with Al Qaeda.
Happened Sunday Sept. 10, 2006. Unbelievable, but true!
Bush has to go before we can make any sustainable progress in the USA.
Only public opinion and/or a Democratic Congress can stop funds for Iraq.
The new book "Hubris", and the Senate report that just came out, blow
 
 
-----------start. Please forward widely.-------
 
 

Rice: ‘There Were Ties Going On Between Al Qaeda And Saddam Hussein’

Today on Fox News Sunday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice repeated the false assertion that Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda had a relationship before the 2003 invasion, despite the recent Senate Intelligence Report that found U.S. intelligence analysts strongly dispute that claim. Watch it:
 
Screenshot
 
Rice tried to pin the blame on then CIA Director George Tenet, saying he said, “there were ties going on between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein’s regime going back for a decade.” But in July, Tenet told the Senate Intelligence Committee that “the White House pressured him and that he agreed to back up the administration’s case for war despite his own agents’ doubts about the intelligence it was based on.”
 
Rice also tried to dismiss the Senate report as being after-the fact, stating, “Now, are we learning more now that we have access to people like Saddam Hussein’s intelligence services? Of course.” But as Wallace pointed out, a Defense Intelligence Agency report from Feb. 2002 — before the U.S. invasion — also concluded that Iraq and Al Qaeda had no relationship: “Iraq is unlikely to have provided bin Laden any useful CB, that’s chemical or biological, knowledge or assistance.” Rice said she did not remember seeing that report.
 
 
Full transcript below:
WALLACE: I want to discuss just one area, the issue of whether Iraq helped Al Qaeda with weapons of mass destruction. Here’s what the President said in October of 2002.
 
[BUSH VIDEO]: We’ve learned that Iraq has trained Al Qaeda members in bomb-making, in poisons, and deadly gases.
 
WALLACE: And in March 2003, just before the invasion, you said, talking about Iraq, “a very strong link to training Al Qaeda in chemical and biological techniques.” Secretary Rice, a Senate committee has just revealed that in February of 2002, months before the President spoke, more than a year, 13 months before you spoke, that the Defense Intelligence Agency concluded this, and let’s put it up on the screen: “Iraq is unlikely to have provided bin Laden any useful CB, that’s chemical or biological, knowledge or assistance.” Didn’t you and the President ignore intelligence that contradicted your case?
 
RICE: What the President and I and other administration officials relied on and — you simply rely on the Director of Central Intelligence. George Tenet gave that very testimony, that there were ties going on between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein’s regime going back for a decade. Indeed, the 9/11 Commission talked about contacts between the two. We know that Zarqawi was running a poisons network in Iraq. We know that Zarqawi ordered the killing of an American diplomat in Jordan from Iraq. There were ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Now, are we learning more now that we have access to people like Saddam Hussein’s intelligence services? Of course. We’re going to learn more.
 
WALLACE: Secretary Rice, this report — if I may, this report isn’t now. This isn’t after the fact. This was a Defense Intelligence Agency report in 2002. Two questions. First of all, did you know about that report before you made your statement?
 
RICE: Chris, we relied on the reports of the National Intelligence Office, the NIO, and of the DCI. That’s what the President and his central decisionmakers rely on.
 
WALLACE: Did you know about this report?
 
RICE: There are conflicting intelligence reports all the time. That’s why we have an intelligence system that brings those together into a unified assessment by the intelligence committee of what — community of what we’re looking at. That particular report I don’t remember seeing.
Filed under: ,
Posted by Amanda at 10:35 am
Permalink | Comment (51)
 

51 Comments »

  1. pretty much same thing on face the nation…
    she also sounded like rummy - “could we? did we? yes, but…”
    no shame…
    Comment by katy — September 10, 2006 @ 10:40 am
  2. Fire this insane woman on the spot, before she inflicts any further damage on our nation.
    Comment by Outraged in Louisville — September 10, 2006 @ 10:42 am
  3. Cheney is basically doing the exact same thing on Meet the Press. Tim is better than usual (which doesnt’ take much) is not letting Cheney get away with it. Cheney’s been a bit stifled by his questioning.
    Comment by Joshua E. — September 10, 2006 @ 10:43 am
  4. Tim seems a bit more tough with Cheney, he almost seems pissed that Cheney lied to him so many times. Tim is hitting him with the “greeted as liberators” routine, and Cheney might have just studdered. This man is evil and will go straight to hell.
    Comment by manny's mission — September 10, 2006 @ 10:49 am
  5. Good to see she can keep playing the same tune….
    If she could just learn catapulting. that would be great
    Comment by koalablue — September 10, 2006 @ 10:52 am
  6. So we are left with a quandry, who are we going to believe? Rice, Bush, Cheney…. or the CIA, FBI, 9/11 Commission, a Repulican based Senate Intelligence Committtee report….
    When you are blatantly lied to once, wouldn’t you exercise some caution the next time around?
    Or as the Decider mumbles…”Fool me once, er, ah, well hell, you know what I mean!”
    Comment by nanlichi — September 10, 2006 @ 10:54 am
  7. Was this a lie or was she just being weasely?
    I think there were contacts between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, but Hussein hated bin Laden, no?
    Comment by John — September 10, 2006 @ 10:56 am
  8. Doesn’t her nose look a bit longer than it did last week?
    Comment by unbelievable — September 10, 2006 @ 11:01 am
  9. She’s lying and being weasly, far as I can figure. To move from “Saddam was providing al-Qaeda with substantial training in biological and chemical weapons manufacturing and use” to “al-Zarqawi was operating out of Iraq” and pretend you haven’t moved at all is disingenuous, unless you’re too dumb to tell the difference (which Rice isn’t).
    Think about it: the first claim is that Hussein and al-Qaeda were coordinating paramilitary training and weapons manufacturing advice systematically and significantly. Depending on the seriousness and frequency of such alleged contact, that might well justify invading Iraq or at least bombing Iraq.
    The second claim says nothing more than “al-Qaeda had operatives in Iraq.” That’s not a reason to invade Iraq. I mean, jeepers, al-Qaeda had and/or has operatives in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, etc etc. For that matter, they had a bunch of guys operating in the US–you know, planning 9/11. In fact, if you balance the the pre-war damage done by al-Qaeda in Iraq and al-Qaeda in the US, there’s a MUCH better case to be made for having invaded ourselves.
    Comment by Jon E. — September 10, 2006 @ 11:06 am
  10. Lying, bucktoothed bitch.
    Comment by Bush Bites — September 10, 2006 @ 11:07 am
  11. “Rice also tried to dismiss the Senate report as being after-the fact…”
    When will they ever learn that facts do not have expiration dates?
    Comment by Clyde the Ripper — September 10, 2006 @ 11:10 am
  12. Condi Rice is lying about Saddam having had ties to Osama > they both hated each other big-time! The Bush Regime members are trying to foist this falsehood today, before the ABC/Disney phony docudrama is shown!
    Comment by Jay Randal — September 10, 2006 @ 11:12 am
  13. Disaster in Iraq, disaster in Afghanistan, disaster in Lebanon, disaster in New Orleans.
    The BUSH REGIEM’S plan to deal with all of these problems.
    PROPAGANDA BASED ON LIES AND DISTORTIONS
    AND MORE PHOTO OPS.
    Comment by mparker — September 10, 2006 @ 11:15 am
  14. […] OMG: Just minutes after I publish this post, Condoleeza Rice says on FoxNews: “There were ties going on between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein” […]
  15. If Ms. Rice insists on living across the line of truth she may be in need of all the protection she can get. Perhaps she should change her name to Condom.
    Comment by Clyde the Ripper — September 10, 2006 @ 11:18 am
  16. BEN-VENISTE: Isn’t it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?
    RICE: I believe the title was, “Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.”
    Now, the…
    BEN-VENISTE: Thank you.
    Comment by km4 — September 10, 2006 @ 11:20 am
  17. So the government has given us the example, lie and lie some more. A great lesson for all citizens.
    Comment by bones — September 10, 2006 @ 11:33 am
  18. liar liar pants on fire
    Comment by RealScientist — September 10, 2006 @ 11:34 am
  19. LIES!!
    Even Fox News is having trouble covering these up!
    Comment by Garrett — September 10, 2006 @ 11:39 am
  20. Thanks for deleting my comments. Perhaps my language was too truthful? Or maybe you don’t believe in resurrection?
    Comment by Godfry Daniel — September 10, 2006 @ 11:43 am
  21. It was not bad intel that led to the Bush invasion of Iraq. It was bad leadership and judgement by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice. They can never blame it on intel.
    Comment by Chet — September 10, 2006 @ 11:45 am
  22. We have one chance left. Let’s try.
    P.S. Please try nor to delete this post. It’s important!
    Comment by trueblue — September 10, 2006 @ 11:46 am
  23. Lies and more lies .Faux news , right place to postulate those lies.
    One day hteu will go arpound wearing goeble”s masks.
    Comment by Grey Eagle — September 10, 2006 @ 11:46 am
  24. Weird pic of Condi Rice used on this thread > she looks dazed and confused > the Bush Regime membership have gone insane and it shows!
    Comment by Jay Randal — September 10, 2006 @ 11:53 am
  25. What a convenient memory these bushco thugs have.
    Comment by AnAmerican — September 10, 2006 @ 11:56 am
  26. wow chris wallace didnt let her walk with that excuse. way to go little man
    Comment by Mr. Todd — September 10, 2006 @ 11:57 am
  27. test……
    Comment by Marie — September 10, 2006 @ 12:01 pm
  28. As I recall, the Repukelicans were in full battle cry about President Clinton lying about a blowjob and tried to find any justification for him lying to get him impeached. Now we have every damned one of the highest administration officials blatantly lying about a somewhat more serious issue (forcing a country to war and all its ramifications) and all is OK?
    Comment by Jay — September 10, 2006 @ 12:05 pm
  29. Fox News can’t even pig lipstick on this pig anymore.
    Comment by Heynow — September 10, 2006 @ 12:06 pm
  30. Why are we surprised at her comments - She is where she is because she learned to play the “The Game”. Condoleeza is a bright, educated woman who has payed a price for success and that price is her integrity. She is only regurgitating what the administration demands of her. Shame on her for selling out, but that happened a long time ago.
    Comment by Not Surprised — September 10, 2006 @ 12:08 pm
  31. If they knew all this about Tenet, why did Bush adorn him with medals, and why hasn’t anyone asked why he did so?
    Comment by Robert Mendez — September 10, 2006 @ 12:11 pm
  32. Well then, Condi, you better haul ass down to the Senate Intelligence Committee and straighten them right out.
    Or is there a sale on Ferragamo?
    Comment by Canuckistanian — September 10, 2006 @ 12:12 pm
  33. Cheney just tried the same thing with Russert. These are stupid and evil people.
    Comment by steve ex-expat — September 10, 2006 @ 12:13 pm
  34. #31 Robert
    In answer to your question:
    “Heck of a job ___________________ .” (Add your own screw-up)
    Comment by Clyde the Ripper — September 10, 2006 @ 12:19 pm
  35. Rice can’t stop lying. Someone stop her. She’s out of control.
    There seems to be a mental disorder afflicting all who occupy the White House — a kind of insanity that compels them to ignore facts and re-write history; they constantly lie to the public, and support their fellow liars in the White House asylum.
    Comment by Marie — September 10, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
  36. Recent predictions of a full-on right wing information campaign appear to be materializing, as Dr. Rice is called in to use her Doctorly powers and tell us how it is.
    Comment by For Truth — September 10, 2006 @ 12:33 pm
  37. Russert let Cheney get away with saying that Zarqawi was in cahoots
    with Sadaam, when the Intelligence Commitee report says just the opposite. Also that Sadaam compensated the families of suicide bombers –
    leaving the impression that these were attackers against the US, when in
    fact these were subsidies to Hezbullah or Hamas members; Russert didn’t
    make him clarify this.
    Comment by laird Okie — September 10, 2006 @ 12:38 pm
  38. This kind of bs is to be expected one day before 9/11. They’ve dominated the airwaves this entire week, I guess they figure the more the message is told the better the brainwash, eh? They’re clearly desperate to keep their asses out of jail.
    Comment by Sadly Disappointed — September 10, 2006 @ 12:43 pm
  39. SPINDOCTOR RICE is at it again. Condi, get your head out of your butt for once - it’s doing nothing for your hairdo!
    Comment by sunshine — September 10, 2006 @ 12:44 pm
  40. These are not mistakes.
    It’s simple.
    perpetual war = retain power = transfer of wealth
    There is NOTHING they won’t do
    to retain power.
    Comment by Simple — September 10, 2006 @ 12:45 pm
  41. THERE IS PANIC IN THE WHITHE HOUSE
    The loss of the house and better yet the senate could mean endless investigation and exposure of their machinations which could bring them long term jail.
    Could it be they new in advance of the attack of 9/11 .It would not surprise me the least.
    Comment by Grey Eagle — September 10, 2006 @ 12:54 pm
  42. I see George (Speed Bump) Tenet has finally served his ultimate purpose — being thrown under the bus when Condi’s toes get a little close to the fire.
    Condi must have gotten her copy of the Senate Intel Committee’s incomplete report…
    She’s a cool liar, I gotta hand it to her, not even a hint of sweat on that upper lip.
    Comment by Zooey — September 10, 2006 @ 12:54 pm
  43. BushCo… Taking crazy to a whole level.
    Comment by Cyra Brown — September 10, 2006 @ 12:56 pm
  44. I’m waiting for Condi to go on one of these TV talk shows and insist that she’s Caucasian and blow off all evidence to the contrary. She’ll repeat it over and over with a straight face, flummoxing the host who will eventually believe her staunch sincerity.
    Comment by Badmoodman — September 10, 2006 @ 1:00 pm
  45. so what else is new…always blame someone else for your mistakes. we are constantly being fed distortions and lies from this administration. why doesn’t the media spend more time bringing out the truth by talking to someone other than members of this administration?
    Comment by jean simpson — September 10, 2006 @ 1:14 pm
  46. jean simpson,
    No time! Gotta talk about the missing white girls; gotta have a wet dream or two about getting the footage of Croc Hunter’s stingray encounter; there’a a surfing squirrel out there somewhere; gotta go to Costco to get the big barrel of lip gloss; cell phone ringing!; and latte — can’t live without the latte…
    …were you saying something?
    Comment by Zooey — September 10, 2006 @ 1:21 pm
  47. But as Wallace pointed out, a Defense Intelligence Agency report from Feb. 2002 — before the U.S. invasion — also concluded that Iraq and Al Qaeda had no relationship: “Iraq is unlikely to have provided bin Laden any useful CB, that’s chemical or biological, knowledge or assistance.”
    Is Amanda dishonest or illiterate? “unlikely to have provided bin Laden any useful CB, that’s chemical or biological, knowledge or assistance.” DOES NOT EQUAL “no relationship”.
    Comment by USA PATRIOT — September 10, 2006 @ 1:31 pm
  48. DUMBASS!
    Comment by Brian — September 10, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
  49. She might want to get her head out of her ass before she opens her mouth.
    Comment by Republicans Are The Fear And Smear Party — September 10, 2006 @ 1:40 pm
  50. She is a liar. George Tenet got his Medal of Freedom for giving the Bush/Cheney regime the trumped-up evidence it wanted.
    Comment by A Raging Moderate — September 10, 2006 @ 1:44 pm
  51. #45 why doesn’t the media spend more time bringing out the truth by talking to someone other than members of this administration?
    This should be asked and then demanded every day. The TV news shows are just that - shows - they are a revolving stage for White House minions, followed by the he said/she said pundits.
    Why are there so few interviews with experts, with people who know the history, know the facts and the background? We hear from those with agendas on a mission to promote themselves.
    Could it be that people who really are objective, impartial and in the know are a threat to the White House and, by default, the self-serving corporate agenda of their own?
    Comment by Marie — September 10, 2006 @ 1:58 pm

Think Progress Highlights

What We’re About

Archives

Topics

Links

About Think Progress

Contact us

Support Think Progress
Got a hot tip? E-mail us
 
 
 
 
---------end----------
 
 
This email archived here:
 
 
 
 
Growing fascism under Bush in the USA.
Table 1 from "Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 2005". A U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics report. According to a 2006 OJJDP (Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention) report there were 97,000 held in juvenile facilities as of October 22, 2006. [2] Add those to the total inmates.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/pjim05.htm
http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/ojstatbb/nr2006/html/chp7hl.html


--------------


MMM (Global Million Marijuana March):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction
Newsweek, Nov. 14, 2005, page 36:
"The most recent evidence comes from autopsies of 44 prisoners who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan in U.S. custody. Most died under circumstances that suggest torture. The reports use words like 'strangulation,' 'asphyxiation' and 'blunt force injuries.' ...  A few months before the [Abu Ghraib] scandal broke [spring 2004], Coalition Provisional Authority polls showed Iraqi support at 63 percent. A month after Abu Ghraib, the number was 9 percent. Polls showed that 71 percent of Iraqis were surprised by the revelations."

All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:45 pm

Show Message Option
tents444
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward 		Message #1319 of 1509 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

The day before the 5th anniversary of 9/11 the Bush administration is STILL lying, and saying that Saddam Hussein had a relationship with Al Qaeda. Happened... 		Eco Man
tents444
Offline Send Email 		Sep 10, 2006
7:08 pm
< Prev Topic  |  Next Topic >
Message #
Search:
Advanced
Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help