To: "cancercured@yahoogroups.com" <cancercured@yahoogroups.com>
From: Trudy Newman <tnewman@...>

Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:50:12 -0700
Subject: [cancercured] Re: Help Requested


Hi Art,


You raise excellent questions and ones that I have asked myself even
before I started passing along everyone's emails to my friend's son.
When I first heard the news, I really prayed that the Lord would show
me how to pray for my friend. Would it be better to pray for a quick
and peaceful departure or a miracle? Quite frankly, given the
extensive health challenges my friend faces I thought for sure he
would want to go home. But when talking to my friend's son, he
informed me that whenever he reads his dad our prayer requests his dad
gets a smile on his face. There are many within the Christian
community who are praying for my friend.


While in prayer, the Lord reminded me of Deb and Rex's emails.
(Remember the sister and brother/husband who had a wife with stage
four cancer?) So I immediately forwarded them on. Then I was
reminded of Moonbeam's post, so I passed that along. I have been
passing along everyone's response to my request ever since. I have
even been doing more research, not only for my friend, but also for
myself. In fact, I recently came across a link that, no doubt, most
on this group are already familiar with; however, it was new to me.


http://www.drkelley.com/CANLIVER55.html


Dr. Kelley also commented on the importance of the patient and his
next of kin not having lost hope. As I was going through the article,
I was so impressed by the information that was being shared; however,
I found myself engaged in a lot of introspection. I found myself
questioning my own will to live. I began to realize that the ten
years of continued and sustained abuse from allopathic medicine and
its doctors has taken its toll. I was talking about it with some
friends who know me quite well and they commented that I was just
going through a grieving process and I have to come to terms with the
fact that I misplaced my trust in allopathic medicine. (...my friends
are convinced that this is just a passing phase that I have to work
through.) I remember last year when I had ten sessions of colon
hydrotherapy the lady asked me what happened to me that I did not want
to live any more. I found that a strange question. It was only when
I was recently looking for answers for my friend that I discovered how
the years of abuse have affected me. Unfortunately, I have been on
pharmaceuticals that have shut down organ function, so I will be
dependent upon allopathic doctors for life. ...talk about a life
sentence.


Anyway, I sure would be interested in hearing from anyone who has
followed Dr. Kelley's protocol. Unless I missed something, it didn't
seem like he listed the vitamins and nutrients individually, so is a
person supposed to purchase them from a specific company?
(Personally, I prefer to buy locally.)


I must say, I was so shocked when Dr. Kelley alleged that some of the
Pancreatin that had been marketed to the Medical and Health Supplement
industries had been laced with a deadly bacteria, B. cereus
(Gram-positive Endospore-forming). It made me start to wonder about
the safety of all of the other supplements that I have been taking.
Has anyone heard of any other reports of this nature? ...I'm still
trying to get over the shock of it all.


Kind regards,
Trudy


Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:52:21 -0500
From: "A. C. Brown" <abrown101@...>
Subject: Re: Help Requested


Hi Trudy,


The big question is how much spirit or fight does this man have left
in him? Is he open to alterantives? I know that may be an
uncomfortable question, but it's where any hope for recovery begins
and ends.


I remember reading a sobering article by Mildred Nelson, the wonderful
nurse that took over the Hoxsey therapy center in Mexico and ran it
for so many years after Hoxsey died. She said that unless a patient
really wants to go on, there is no therapist in the world,
conventional or alternative, that will be able to do much.


She went on to say many people were brought to her clinic actually
against their will, too weak to resist the efforts of well-intentioned
friends and relatives who insisted they go. The reults were usually
dismal.


- Art