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#14203 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:51 am
Subject: Re: Silent Subliminals
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The so called 'silent subliminals' created first by Dr. Lowry are
created by raising the audio 'floor' of the subliminals track to 14.5
kHz (or higher) before mixing it with the mask.  There are several
scripts available, including some in the files section of this site I
believe, to do this in Cool Edit or its current evolution, Adobe
Audition.  I believe there is a 30 day free trial available for
audition and copies of Cool Edit are usually fairly cheap when you
find them.

I do not know of a current plug in for Audacity to do this.  I would
recommend looking at the Audition script and back engineering it to
work with the currently available Audacity plugins.

We haven't created one do to the questionable value of using them as
audio.  Much of the successful work with the 'silent subliminal' has
been done using ultrasonic transducers that transmit a vibration as
opposed to sound waves.  Many of us can't hear frequencies that high
any more and if you can't hear the track, you don't respond to it.
Others are bothered by the track and complain of a chirping noise,
even with the track buried almost 30 db below the level of the mask.
Other methods such as vocoding, time inversion and compression all
seem to work better, are easy to do and their use in Audacity is
demonstrated in our course on Creating Subliminal and BWE Recording
with Open Source Tools
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Hope this helps


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--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "truescalper" <geminiforex@...> wrote:
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>
>
>
> Does anyone here know how silent subliminals are created --- with free
> sound editors?...
>
> annyone has a software or plugin to create silent subliminals?......
>

#14202 From: "truescalper" <geminiforex@...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:16 pm
Subject: Silent Subliminals
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Does anyone here know how silent subliminals are created --- with free
sound editors?...

annyone has a software or plugin to create silent subliminals?......

#14201 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:14 pm
Subject: Last Few Days - Act Now
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#14200 From: "cowardlyleo" <cowardlyleo@...>
Date: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: monroe / hemi-sync "focus 10, 12 etc" frequencies??? or presets
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Hi, archito2002.

Files you're looking for are still available at the 'Files' section of
the BwGen-group, just follow the rabbi... oh, sorry - just follow the
links: "Files" -> "! YahooFiles_181103.htm" -> ... "hemisync.zip"

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--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "@#$%" <archito2002@...> wrote:
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> A few years ago I had a list of the "secret" hemi-sync frequencies
> that correlated with the Gateway series (Monroe Institute) focus 10,
> 12, 15, 21, 27 etc. Does anyone have those either as a textfile or as
> presets?
>
> If yes, please let me know.
>
> Thanks..
>

#14199 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Mon Dec 3, 2007 7:31 pm
Subject: Re: New user
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Simple headphones are fine since almost all of the sounds you use will
be well below 1000 Hz.

I have used BWGEN for a number of years along with a number of other
brainwave entrainment tools and one of the areas I worked on
extensively was attention focusing and super learning.  Try a 14 Hz
program for activities that require your full concentration and
attention.    Allow 5 - 7 minutes for the brain to get entrained.

Dr. Richard Price
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--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "ruslaniii" <ruslaniii@...> wrote:
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>     Hello!!!
>
>     I am a new user of BWG.Can I use BWG with simple  headphones?
>
>      Also I am interesting in Attention
> focusing.Does anybody  use it ?
>

#14198 From: "ruslaniii" <ruslaniii@...>
Date: Mon Dec 3, 2007 2:02 pm
Subject: New user
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Hello!!!

     I am a new user of BWG.Can I use BWG with simple  headphones?

      Also I am interesting in Attention
focusing.Does anybody  use it ?

#14197 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Mon Dec 3, 2007 1:29 pm
Subject: Re: creating a precep
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If you are wanting to create a binaural beat of 50 Hz (although I
can't imagine why), take a carrier frequency of say 300 Hz for one
side and another frequency that is 50 Hz different ( 250 or 350 Hz)
for the other side.

What are you wanting to do?  The range between 50 and 60 Hz has
numerous undesirable effects and most people just beginning to use
entrainment technologies start with better researched frequencies down
below 30 Hz.

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--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "smilecollecter" <smilecollecter@...> wrote:
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>  How would I create a precep that has just the 50hz frequency?
>

#14196 From: "smilecollecter" <smilecollecter@...>
Date: Sat Dec 1, 2007 6:12 pm
Subject: creating a precep
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How would I create a precep that has just the 50hz frequency?

#14195 From: "yanis_d" <yanis@...>
Date: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:34 am
Subject: Global Jothi transmission
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#14194 From: BLKSUPERMN@...
Date: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:48 pm
Subject: Multiple Binaural Beats.
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I have been using isochronic tones but am considering going back to binaural beats; if it means I can use more than one beat. With isochronic tones the only advantage over binaural beats was the fact that you could use them without headphones, but using more then one tone wasn't very effective. Would using more then one binaural beat be any better? Thank you.




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#14193 From: "@#$%" <archito2002@...>
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 3:45 pm
Subject: monroe / hemi-sync "focus 10, 12 etc" frequencies??? or presets
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A few years ago I had a list of the "secret" hemi-sync frequencies
that correlated with the Gateway series (Monroe Institute) focus 10,
12, 15, 21, 27 etc. Does anyone have those either as a textfile or as
presets?

If yes, please let me know.

Thanks..

#14192 From: "Ron Hubbard" <hubbard_ron@...>
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 8:47 am
Subject: Re: Gamma
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That's good in theory, but in practice... Check out the cymatic
brainwave frequency list at:

http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm

Ron



--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, BLKSUPERMN@... wrote:
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> I was wondering what gamma waves were good for. Since faster
brainwaves,
> such as beta, are good for concentration, energy, and mood;  would
a super fast
> brainwave work for better for those problems? Just curious.  Thank
you.
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#14191 From: BLKSUPERMN@...
Date: Sun Nov 4, 2007 6:16 pm
Subject: Gamma
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I was wondering what gamma waves were good for. Since faster brainwaves, such as beta, are good for concentration, energy, and mood; would a super fast brainwave work for better for those problems? Just curious. Thank you.




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#14190 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:19 am
Subject: RCPConsulting.us Back Online
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#14189 From: Star Sounds <star_sounds@...>
Date: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:48 am
Subject: IMPORTANT - LIST OF NEW HEALING FREQUENCIES
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IMPORTANT - NEW HEALING FREQUENCIES LIST


New powerful frequencies developed and results
from their use in psycho-somatic, and physical
remediation

Thanks to Klaus for providing this to us.... I'll also
copy this to our newsgroups archive (here)


Links to the following topics can be found below
(scroll beneath the table of contents below)

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USER TESTIMONIALS      Edit


Table of Contents

1.) BODY Healing Testimonials
      Accounts of Users with DNA Repair Frequency
      Accounts of Users with Recuperation Frequency
      Accounts of Users with Anti Aging Frequency (Age
Regression)
      Accounts of Users with Sore Feet Frequency
      Accounts of Users with Sleep Frequency
     Accounts of Users with Digestive Frequency
     Accounts of Users with Dental Shield Frequency
     Accounts of Users with Recuperation Frequency

2.) Emotional Healing Testimonials
     Accounts of Users with Spiritual Attunement
Frequencies

3.) Mental Healing Testimonials
     Accounts of Users with Harmony between Heart and
Mind

     Accounts of Users with Brain and Nerve Frequencies
     Accounts of Users with Alzheimers SSF fequencies

6.) Peak Performance Testimonials
     Accounts of Users with Super Success Behaviour
Stimulation Frequency
     Accounts of Users with Telephatic stim 2

     Accounts of Users with Pets

     Accounts of Users with Custom Frequencies

ALS:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/26

     Accounts of Users with Different Results
     Use SSF with Transducers
     Bad mood and such
     Sounds and all
    Best Feeling
    Feedback on some SSF-Reports on Physical
Improvements and Changes

     FAQ

     WHEN TO STOP USING FREQUENCIES and other INFO

     Butterflies can be a Health Hazzard

     MOON PHASES
    Homoeopathic base remedies
    Rife freqs are like road signs, SSF's are like maps
    New Kind of Frequency tailored to each individual
    How to best experience the phenomenon
    Does sound frequencies have light?
    Video Shows Effects on Tissue
    Frequency Catalog List




USER TESTIMONIALS      Edit



Table of Contents

1.) BODY Healing Testimonials
     Accounts of Users with DNA Repair Frequency


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/944
     Accounts of Users with Recuperation Frequency
     Accounts of Users with Anti Aging Frequency (Age
Regression)



http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/31
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/54

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/90

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/127

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/844



     Accounts of Users with Sore Feet Frequency

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/76
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/242



     Accounts of Users with Sleep Frequency

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/117
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/161



    Accounts of Users with Digestive Frequency
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/148



    Accounts of Users with Dental Shield Frequency
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/366

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/390
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/397

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/406

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/407

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/623


    Accounts of Users with Recuperation Frequency
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/706




2.) Emotional Healing Testimonials
     Accounts of Users with Spiritual Attunement
Frequencies


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/617
     Accounts of Users with ....
     Accounts of Users with ....



3.) Mental Healing Testimonials
     Accounts of Users with Harmony between Heart and
Mind


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/43
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/77


     Accounts of Users with Brain and Nerve Frequencies
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/275
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/286

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/417
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/430

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/452

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/683

     Accounts of Users with Alzheimers SSF fequencies
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/279


6.) Peak Performance Testimonials
     Accounts of Users with Super Success

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/755
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/763

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/765
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/797

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/901

     Accounts of Users with Telephatic stim 2
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/911


     Accounts of Users with Pets
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/143
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/144

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/865


     Accounts of Users with Custom Frequencies

ALS:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/26

     Accounts of Users with Different Results
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/32
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/35



     Use SSF with Transducers
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/160


     Bad mood and such
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/181
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/185



     Sounds and all
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/189


    Best Feeling
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/192



    Feedback on some SSF-Reports on Physical
Improvements and Changes

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/224
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/228

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/314
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/554

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/653

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/665

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/696

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/703

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/743

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/828

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/845

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/846

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/848

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/852

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/894

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/912

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/942



     FAQ
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/62

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/83



     WHEN TO STOP USING FREQUENCIES and other INFO
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/178



     Butterflies can be a Health Hazzard
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/772

     MOON PHASES
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/197

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/199



    Homoeopathic base remedies
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/203



    Rife freqs are like road signs, SSF's are like maps
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/246



    New Kind of Frequency tailored to each individual
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/519
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/620



    How to best experience the phenomenon
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/592



    Does sound frequencies have light?
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/780



    Video Shows Effects on Tissue
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/721




    Frequency Catalog List
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/the_sound_of_stars/message/650

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#14188 From: "pascalsimons2000" <pascalsimons@...>
Date: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:47 am
Subject: Moog synthesizer software
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This should be on the links page of bwgen.com

While browsing the web i found a freeware Moog Synthesizer:

MinimogueVA virtual Minimoog synth program.
@  http://www.home.no/gunnare/

It's just perfect for creating your own bwgen background synth-sounds.

#14187 From: "Jeff Magee" <lectrobeeker145@...>
Date: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Alpha.
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I took some time to search through the saved papers I have from last year. Here are some quotes to share with the group.

Quote from Dr. Thomas Budzynski study:

"The 30 AVE sessions were completed in the Fall of 1997 and the students' marks from their spring exams were recorded and compared against a control group (Figure 9). Notice the AVE group showed improvement in grade-point average (GPA) over the course of the year while the controls showed a decrease in PGA. This study demonstrates that the carry-over effect following the cessation of AVE treatment continued for at least five months."

Quote from Dr. Harold Russel study:

"Recent reports including photographs of synaptic growth and development subsequent to repeated electrical stimulation of large groups of neurons may offer a possible explanation of the results of a series of controlled studies of ADHD children utilizing photic and auditory stimulation to induce activation of large groups of neurons in the brains of these children. Observations of cognitive and behavioral improvements in these children were made at the end of 40 sessions of training with the gains persisting at 16 months follow up."


You can find the same frequency patterns used in these studies used in NP2 and the Comptronic devices. They might be in the bwgen library too, I haven't checked. I don't know what pattern pRoshi uses.


Thanks for clarifying your position Rick, that makes more sense to me.

Cheers


On 10/21/07, rickprice407 < rickprice407@...> wrote:

According to their website they still do but we need to understand
neurofeedback and what is meant by it. Neurofeedback has been around
for thousands of years and has been practiced by shamans, yogis, monks
and others. In the 1970s and 80s it appeared as biofeedback where a
light, tone or eeg trace could be made to vary through manipulating a
brainwave pattern. Most of us here can pretty much enter a desired
state with no entrainment programs after using a new one for a few
times. You learn how it 'feels'. Just like a golfer knows if the
shot was good before ever looking from the way the swing 'felt'. I
think your experience and the other come from a brain learning how it
felt to be able to focus and concentrate on a single item and to
function in a normal fashion. It liked it and, in NLP speak,
patterned the behavior. The brain is no longer requiring an
entrainment stimulus to enter or maintain a desired state. The
entrainment was very temporary but the ability of the brain to
remember and pattern that state isn't. Entrainment for sleep would be
disastrous if it didn't go away after the program was over, as would
the effects of a 20 minute mental refresher. I can vary my pulse
rate, blood pressure and mental state through years of learning how it
feels to go there; but its not brainwave entrainment. Entrainment
REQUIRES a stimulus upon which to entrain. The effects of entrainment
are temporary; the long term effects of how the individual mind
responds to entrainment may not be. It depends on the mind in question.

Dr. Richard Price
RCP Consulting
http://www.rcpconsulting.us
NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!

--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Magee" <lectrobeeker145@...> wrote:
>
> The proshi doesn't use neurofeedback, that was earlier versions of the
> roshi.
>
> Do you use the magnetic stuff Harv?
>
> Cheers
>



#14186 From: "Kroninger" <Andrew.Kroninger@...>
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:31 pm
Subject: Hearing Impaired
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What are the implications of being hearing impaired when it comes to
using the Brain Wave Generator?

I have different hearing losses in either ear and I wear hearing aides.

Is it better to listen without my aides in place or with my aides in
place?

Thanks to all...

Andrew

#14185 From: BLKSUPERMN@...
Date: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Some Questions.
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In a message dated 10/21/2007 9:24:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rickprice407@... writes:
The frequency doesn't have to be dominant, but usually will be in a
single voice session. Getting good entrainment on more than one
frequency can be a little tricky depending on what you want to do.
The question is why try to entrain to the higher waking brainwaves
during sleep? There is a reason they slow down during sleep. Even
your brain needs a break.

I want to use a session with faster brainwaves for depression and add. I am pretty busy on most days so the only time I get to use the sessions is at bedtime. I am hoping that using the session over and over again in my sleep will speed up the results. Should I listen to the session once at bedtime and be patience; or over and over again in my sleep?




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#14184 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: Alpha.
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According to their website they still do but we need to understand
neurofeedback and what is meant by it.  Neurofeedback has been around
for thousands of years and has been practiced by shamans, yogis, monks
and others.  In the 1970s and 80s it appeared as biofeedback where a
light, tone or eeg trace could be made to vary through manipulating a
brainwave pattern.  Most of us here can pretty much enter a desired
state with no entrainment programs after using a new one for a few
times.  You learn how it 'feels'.  Just like a golfer knows if the
shot was good before ever looking from the way the swing 'felt'.  I
think your experience and the other come from a brain learning how it
felt to be able to focus and concentrate on a single item and to
function in a normal fashion.  It liked it and, in NLP speak,
patterned the behavior.  The brain is no longer requiring an
entrainment stimulus to enter or maintain a desired state.  The
entrainment was very temporary but the ability of the brain to
remember and pattern that state isn't.  Entrainment for sleep would be
disastrous if it didn't go away after the program was over, as would
the effects of a 20 minute mental refresher.  I can vary my pulse
rate, blood pressure and mental state through years of learning how it
feels to go there; but its not brainwave entrainment.  Entrainment
REQUIRES a stimulus upon which to entrain.  The effects of entrainment
are temporary; the long term effects of how the individual mind
responds to entrainment may not be.  It depends on the mind in question.

Dr. Richard Price
RCP Consulting
http://www.rcpconsulting.us
NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!




--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Magee" <lectrobeeker145@...> wrote:
>
> The proshi doesn't use neurofeedback, that was earlier versions of the
> roshi.
>
> Do you use the magnetic stuff Harv?
>
> Cheers
>
> On 10/18/07, rickprice407 <rickprice407@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Harv,
> >
> > A number of things separate the pROSHI systems from the 'consumer'
> > grade BWE devices like BWGEN, the Transparent products like NP2 and
> > the programs we describe making in our guide to open source tools for
> > this. First is the $1950 price tag. Most of us don't have that kind
> > of cash laying around. The second is that fact that they use light,
> > sound and magnetics to provide not only entrainment but neurofeedback
> > with is the big difference. Although passive, neurofeedback trains
> > you to self control brainwave patterns without the use of an
> > entrainment stimulus. This is common among shamans, monks and others
> > who practice extended, deep meditation or conversely, many extreme
> > workaholics who can stay up and focused for several days at a time.
> > Many of us in this field have learned to drop in and out of different
> > states at will through training; you have as well.
> >
> > This is why is saud and still stand by the statement I made.
> > Regardless of the tool in use, Brainwave entrainment is temporary,
> > once the stimulus goes away, so does the entrainment. Through
> > feedback and training you have learned to control your brainwaves to
> > where you only require the periodic use to maintain your desired
> > state. You don't get the same options and performance in a Chevette
> > as in a Porsche - but they can both take you where you want to go.
> >
> > Dr. Richard Price
> > RCP Consulting
> > http://www.rcpconsulting.us
> > NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
> > store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!
> >
> > --- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com <bwgen%40yahoogroups.com>, "Harv
Howard" <
> > harv.howard@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rick-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Usually, your info and suggestions are "right on" as judged by my
> > limited
> > > experience. But I must differ greatly with you over the following
> > statement
> > > you made:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
> > > you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other
frequencies."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Since you regularly discuss other devices other than bwgen, I'm
> > making the
> > > assumption that you have not limited your words to only the bwgen
> > > techniques. I believe it is correct to include the pROSHI within the
> > > "brainwave entrainment" universe. -I'm sure Chuck would argue for a
> > special
> > > classification, but in any case whether by my definition or
another, the
> > > pROSHI definitely does brainwave entrainment. It works for many
> > users, and
> > > it works on my over half a century of ADD, and after a year and a
> > half, I
> > > notice no diminishing of the result but a continuation of
> > improvement. And
> > > at my age, 69, that is a terrific endorsement for the device and
Chuck's
> > > ingenuity.
> > >
> > > HH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: bwgen@yahoogroups.com <bwgen%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > bwgen@yahoogroups.com <bwgen%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > > rickprice407
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:40 PM
> > > To: bwgen@yahoogroups.com <bwgen%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [bwgen] Re: Alpha.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My first suggestion is to try the NP2 sessions and see what happens.
> > > If they work then edit those. If they don't then try something else.
> > >
> > > Of greater importance is to understand what is causing the
depression
> > > and ADD. This also applies to the bipolar disorder you posted on
> > > earlier. All three of these can be caused by chemical imbalances
that
> > > playing a session 24 hrs a day won't help. Knowing the root causes
> > > is key to success for this type of problem.
> > >
> > > Alpha is a range of frequencies(8 - 13 Hz), some of which can
cause a
> > > rise in neurotransmitters. Why does this sound like a good idea to
> > > you? Is there something in a diagnosis you have received that
> > > indicates a need for this? Most depression sessions concentrate in
> > > the theta or delta waves.
> > >
> > > Around 10 Hz or a low beta (12 -15 Hz) is sometimes helpful in
> > > treating some forms of ADD, again the root cause is a major
factor here.
> > >
> > > Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
> > > you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other
frequencies.
> > > Therefore, although using a session may help you to effectively
> > > concentrate, you must be listening to the session for it to do any
> > > good and have been listening to it long enough to have become
> > > entrained (usually 5 to 7 minutes). Within a few minutes of ending a
> > > session the brain is no longer entrained on the program's frequency.
> > >
> > > Dr. Richard Price
> > > RCP Consulting
> > > http://www.rcpconsu <http://www.rcpconsulting.us> lting.us
> > > NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
> > > store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!
> > >
> > > --- In bwgen@yahoogroups. <mailto:bwgen%
<bwgen%25>40yahoogroups.com>
> > com,
> > > BLKSUPERMN@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I want to create a session for depression and ADD. NP2 advices
that
> > > I use
> > > > faster brainwaves but I want to use Alpha cause of the
> > > neurotransmitters it
> > > > releases, My question is; are Alpha waves considered slow
> > > brainwaves? Will using
> > > > Alpha at 10htz be counterproductive? I know that NP2 has a session
> > for
> > > > depression and one for ADD, but I like to create my own so I have
> > > more control
> > > > over the session. I know exactly what is in the session and I can
> > > edit it at any
> > > > time. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ************************************** See what's new at
> > > http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com> com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

#14183 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: Some Questions.
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The frequency doesn't have to be dominant, but usually will be in a
single voice session.  Getting good entrainment on more than one
frequency can be a little tricky depending on what you want to do.
The question is why try to entrain to the higher waking brainwaves
during sleep?  There is a reason they slow down during sleep.  Even
your brain needs a break.

Lucid Dreaming is a learned skill, not a collection of brainwave
frequencies but we publish a guide that includes a Preparation CD and
an 8 hour MP to sleep with that includes the brainwave entrainment and
audio cues to stimulate Lucid Dreaming sessions.  It is on our website
under the Spiritual Development section in the store.  Just toggling
between beta and theta all night would produce a very restless night
with little if any deep sleep.  Remember that a dream may seem like a
long adventure but may only take a few minutes of actual time.  You
are working at the speed of the other than conscious mind.

Most psychedelic drugs rely on distorting the signals that are passed
along the nerves for their effects. These are completely apart from
your brainwaves.  However, using light glasses hooked to an audio
strobe output can provide some incredible visual effects.  Try running
a theta audio track and stepping the glasses back and forth in both
steps every few minutes and then an occasional fast ramp of a couple
of hertz in maybe 30 secs.  There are sites sell programs that are
supposed to mimic drugs but I have yet to find one that really worked
in a blind study.  They rely in great measure on the placebo effect;
you think its going to do this, so you think it does.

Dr. Richard Price
RCP Consulting
http://www.rcpconsulting.us
NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!


--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, BLKSUPERMN@... wrote:
>
> I know I ask a lot of questions on this yahoo group but here are
some  more.
> 1: NP2 says that the brainwave being trained doesn't have to be the
  dominate
> brainwave. If one wanted to use a session that focused on faster
brainwaves
> in their sleep when the dominate brainwaves would be theta or delta,
  would
> the session be effective?
> 2: Does anyone know how the to create a session that produces lucid
> dreaming? I thought maybe a session that ramps rapidly from beta to
theta and  back
> would do it. Maybe a session that does beta for a few minutes, drops
to  theta
> for a few minutes, jumps back to beta and repeats the process over
and  over
> might do it.
> 3: Is there so why to use brainwave entrainment to close one's eyes
and  have
> a psychedelic experience?
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read this post and possibly
answering  these
> questions.
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at
http://www.aol.com
>

#14182 From: BLKSUPERMN@...
Date: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:24 pm
Subject: Some Questions.
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I know I ask a lot of questions on this yahoo group but here are some more.
1: NP2 says that the brainwave being trained doesn't have to be the dominate brainwave. If one wanted to use a session that focused on faster brainwaves in their sleep when the dominate brainwaves would be theta or delta, would the session be effective?
2: Does anyone know how the to create a session that produces lucid dreaming? I thought maybe a session that ramps rapidly from beta to theta and back would do it. Maybe a session that does beta for a few minutes, drops to theta for a few minutes, jumps back to beta and repeats the process over and over might do it.
3: Is there so why to use brainwave entrainment to close one's eyes and have a psychedelic experience?
 
Thank you for taking the time to read this post and possibly answering these questions.




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#14181 From: "Jeff Magee" <lectrobeeker145@...>
Date: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Alpha.
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The proshi doesn't use neurofeedback, that was earlier versions of the roshi.

Do you use the magnetic stuff Harv?

Cheers

On 10/18/07, rickprice407 <rickprice407@...> wrote:

Harv,

A number of things separate the pROSHI systems from the 'consumer'
grade BWE devices like BWGEN, the Transparent products like NP2 and
the programs we describe making in our guide to open source tools for
this. First is the $1950 price tag. Most of us don't have that kind
of cash laying around. The second is that fact that they use light,
sound and magnetics to provide not only entrainment but neurofeedback
with is the big difference. Although passive, neurofeedback trains
you to self control brainwave patterns without the use of an
entrainment stimulus. This is common among shamans, monks and others
who practice extended, deep meditation or conversely, many extreme
workaholics who can stay up and focused for several days at a time.
Many of us in this field have learned to drop in and out of different
states at will through training; you have as well.

This is why is saud and still stand by the statement I made.
Regardless of the tool in use, Brainwave entrainment is temporary,
once the stimulus goes away, so does the entrainment. Through
feedback and training you have learned to control your brainwaves to
where you only require the periodic use to maintain your desired
state. You don't get the same options and performance in a Chevette
as in a Porsche - but they can both take you where you want to go.

Dr. Richard Price
RCP Consulting
http://www.rcpconsulting.us
NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!

--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "Harv Howard" <harv.howard@...> wrote:
>
> Rick-
>
>
>
> Usually, your info and suggestions are "right on" as judged by my
limited
> experience. But I must differ greatly with you over the following
statement
> you made:
>
>
>
> "Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
> you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies."
>
>
>
> Since you regularly discuss other devices other than bwgen, I'm
making the
> assumption that you have not limited your words to only the bwgen
> techniques. I believe it is correct to include the pROSHI within the
> "brainwave entrainment" universe. -I'm sure Chuck would argue for a
special
> classification, but in any case whether by my definition or another, the
> pROSHI definitely does brainwave entrainment. It works for many
users, and
> it works on my over half a century of ADD, and after a year and a
half, I
> notice no diminishing of the result but a continuation of
improvement. And
> at my age, 69, that is a terrific endorsement for the device and Chuck's
> ingenuity.
>
> HH
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: bwgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto: bwgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> rickprice407
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:40 PM
> To: bwgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bwgen] Re: Alpha.
>
>
>
> My first suggestion is to try the NP2 sessions and see what happens.
> If they work then edit those. If they don't then try something else.
>
> Of greater importance is to understand what is causing the depression
> and ADD. This also applies to the bipolar disorder you posted on
> earlier. All three of these can be caused by chemical imbalances that
> playing a session 24 hrs a day won't help. Knowing the root causes
> is key to success for this type of problem.
>
> Alpha is a range of frequencies(8 - 13 Hz), some of which can cause a
> rise in neurotransmitters. Why does this sound like a good idea to
> you? Is there something in a diagnosis you have received that
> indicates a need for this? Most depression sessions concentrate in
> the theta or delta waves.
>
> Around 10 Hz or a low beta (12 -15 Hz) is sometimes helpful in
> treating some forms of ADD, again the root cause is a major factor here.
>
> Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
> you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies.
> Therefore, although using a session may help you to effectively
> concentrate, you must be listening to the session for it to do any
> good and have been listening to it long enough to have become
> entrained (usually 5 to 7 minutes). Within a few minutes of ending a
> session the brain is no longer entrained on the program's frequency.
>
> Dr. Richard Price
> RCP Consulting
> http://www.rcpconsu < http://www.rcpconsulting.us> lting.us
> NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
> store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!
>
> --- In bwgen@yahoogroups. <mailto:bwgen%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> BLKSUPERMN@ wrote:
> >
> > I want to create a session for depression and ADD. NP2 advices that
> I use
> > faster brainwaves but I want to use Alpha cause of the
> neurotransmitters it
> > releases, My question is; are Alpha waves considered slow
> brainwaves? Will using
> > Alpha at 10htz be counterproductive? I know that NP2 has a session
for
> > depression and one for ADD, but I like to create my own so I have
> more control
> > over the session. I know exactly what is in the session and I can
> edit it at any
> > time. Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's new at
> http://www.aol. < http://www.aol.com> com
> >
>



#14180 From: "Jeff" <lectrobeeker145@...>
Date: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:18 am
Subject: Re: Alpha.
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I agree. I haven't used the pROSHI but my son used an NP2 ADD session
last summer for about a month and a half daily, and stopped when he
went back to school. To his and our amazement the benefits to his
concentration remained and endured until he came back home on break
and did more sessions.

There have been studies on ADD using beta programs with follow-ups of
a year or more where positive results have remained.

Often the effects of programs I do on bwgen last longer than a few
minutes. Sometimes even weeks after I'll still experience effects.
Entirely subjective I know, but like you my son really struggled with
ADD until we came upon this.

Cheers

--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "Harv Howard" <harv.howard@...> wrote:
>
> Rick-
>
>
>
> Usually, your info and suggestions are "right on" as judged by my
limited
> experience.  But I must differ greatly with you over the following
statement
> you made:
>
>
>
> "Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
> you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies."
>
>
>
> Since you regularly discuss other devices other than bwgen, I'm
making the
> assumption that you have not limited your words to only the bwgen
> techniques.  I believe it is correct to include the pROSHI within the
> "brainwave entrainment" universe.  -I'm sure Chuck would argue for a
special
> classification, but in any case whether by my definition or another, the
> pROSHI definitely does brainwave entrainment.  It works for many
users, and
> it works on my over half a century of ADD, and after a year and a
half, I
> notice no diminishing of the result but a continuation of
improvement.  And
> at my age, 69, that is a terrific endorsement for the device and Chuck's
> ingenuity.
>
> HH
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: bwgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bwgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> rickprice407
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:40 PM
> To: bwgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bwgen] Re: Alpha.
>
>
>
> My first suggestion is to try the NP2 sessions and see what happens.
> If they work then edit those. If they don't then try something else.
>
> Of greater importance is to understand what is causing the depression
> and ADD. This also applies to the bipolar disorder you posted on
> earlier. All three of these can be caused by chemical imbalances that
> playing a session 24 hrs a day won't help. Knowing the root causes
> is key to success for this type of problem.
>
> Alpha is a range of frequencies(8 - 13 Hz), some of which can cause a
> rise in neurotransmitters. Why does this sound like a good idea to
> you? Is there something in a diagnosis you have received that
> indicates a need for this? Most depression sessions concentrate in
> the theta or delta waves.
>
> Around 10 Hz or a low beta (12 -15 Hz) is sometimes helpful in
> treating some forms of ADD, again the root cause is a major factor here.
>
> Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
> you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies.
> Therefore, although using a session may help you to effectively
> concentrate, you must be listening to the session for it to do any
> good and have been listening to it long enough to have become
> entrained (usually 5 to 7 minutes). Within a few minutes of ending a
> session the brain is no longer entrained on the program's frequency.
>
> Dr. Richard Price
> RCP Consulting
> http://www.rcpconsu <http://www.rcpconsulting.us> lting.us
> NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
> store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!
>
> --- In bwgen@yahoogroups. <mailto:bwgen%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> BLKSUPERMN@ wrote:
> >
> > I want to create a session for depression and ADD. NP2 advices that
> I use
> > faster brainwaves but I want to use Alpha cause of the
> neurotransmitters it
> > releases, My question is; are Alpha waves considered slow
> brainwaves? Will using
> > Alpha at 10htz be counterproductive? I know that NP2 has a session
for
> > depression and one for ADD, but I like to create my own so I have
> more control
> > over the session. I know exactly what is in the session and I can
> edit it at any
> > time. Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's new at
> http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com> com
> >
>

#14179 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: Alpha.
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Harv,

A number of things separate the pROSHI systems from the 'consumer'
grade BWE devices like BWGEN, the Transparent products like NP2 and
the programs we describe making in our guide to open source tools for
this.  First is the $1950 price tag.  Most of us don't have that kind
of cash laying around.  The second is that fact that they use light,
sound and magnetics to provide not only entrainment but neurofeedback
with is the big difference.  Although passive, neurofeedback trains
you to self control brainwave patterns without the use of an
entrainment stimulus.  This is common among shamans, monks and others
who practice extended, deep meditation or conversely, many extreme
workaholics who can stay up and focused for several days at a time.
Many of us in this field have learned to drop in and out of different
states at will through training; you have as well.

This is why is saud and still stand by the statement I made.
Regardless of the tool in use, Brainwave entrainment is temporary,
once the stimulus goes away, so does the entrainment.  Through
feedback and training you have learned to control your brainwaves to
where you only require the periodic use to maintain your desired
state.  You don't get the same options and performance in a Chevette
as in a Porsche - but they can both take you where you want to go.

Dr. Richard Price
RCP Consulting
http://www.rcpconsulting.us
NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!





--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, "Harv Howard" <harv.howard@...> wrote:
>
> Rick-
>
>
>
> Usually, your info and suggestions are "right on" as judged by my
limited
> experience.  But I must differ greatly with you over the following
statement
> you made:
>
>
>
> "Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
> you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies."
>
>
>
> Since you regularly discuss other devices other than bwgen, I'm
making the
> assumption that you have not limited your words to only the bwgen
> techniques.  I believe it is correct to include the pROSHI within the
> "brainwave entrainment" universe.  -I'm sure Chuck would argue for a
special
> classification, but in any case whether by my definition or another, the
> pROSHI definitely does brainwave entrainment.  It works for many
users, and
> it works on my over half a century of ADD, and after a year and a
half, I
> notice no diminishing of the result but a continuation of
improvement.  And
> at my age, 69, that is a terrific endorsement for the device and Chuck's
> ingenuity.
>
> HH
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: bwgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bwgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> rickprice407
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:40 PM
> To: bwgen@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bwgen] Re: Alpha.
>
>
>
> My first suggestion is to try the NP2 sessions and see what happens.
> If they work then edit those. If they don't then try something else.
>
> Of greater importance is to understand what is causing the depression
> and ADD. This also applies to the bipolar disorder you posted on
> earlier. All three of these can be caused by chemical imbalances that
> playing a session 24 hrs a day won't help. Knowing the root causes
> is key to success for this type of problem.
>
> Alpha is a range of frequencies(8 - 13 Hz), some of which can cause a
> rise in neurotransmitters. Why does this sound like a good idea to
> you? Is there something in a diagnosis you have received that
> indicates a need for this? Most depression sessions concentrate in
> the theta or delta waves.
>
> Around 10 Hz or a low beta (12 -15 Hz) is sometimes helpful in
> treating some forms of ADD, again the root cause is a major factor here.
>
> Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
> you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies.
> Therefore, although using a session may help you to effectively
> concentrate, you must be listening to the session for it to do any
> good and have been listening to it long enough to have become
> entrained (usually 5 to 7 minutes). Within a few minutes of ending a
> session the brain is no longer entrained on the program's frequency.
>
> Dr. Richard Price
> RCP Consulting
> http://www.rcpconsu <http://www.rcpconsulting.us> lting.us
> NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
> store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!
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> --- In bwgen@yahoogroups. <mailto:bwgen%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> BLKSUPERMN@ wrote:
> >
> > I want to create a session for depression and ADD. NP2 advices that
> I use
> > faster brainwaves but I want to use Alpha cause of the
> neurotransmitters it
> > releases, My question is; are Alpha waves considered slow
> brainwaves? Will using
> > Alpha at 10htz be counterproductive? I know that NP2 has a session
for
> > depression and one for ADD, but I like to create my own so I have
> more control
> > over the session. I know exactly what is in the session and I can
> edit it at any
> > time. Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's new at
> http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com> com
> >
>

#14178 From: "Harv Howard" <harv.howard@...>
Date: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:08 am
Subject: RE: Re: Alpha.
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Rick—

 

Usually, your info and suggestions are “right on” as judged by my limited experience.  But I must differ greatly with you over the following statement you made:

 

“Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies.”

 

Since you regularly discuss other devices other than bwgen, I’m making the assumption that you have not limited your words to only the bwgen techniques.  I believe it is correct to include the pROSHI within the “brainwave entrainment” universe.  –I’m sure Chuck would argue for a special classification, but in any case whether by my definition or another, the pROSHI definitely does brainwave entrainment.  It works for many users, and it works on my over half a century of ADD, and after a year and a half, I notice no diminishing of the result but a continuation of improvement.  And at my age, 69, that is a terrific endorsement for the device and Chuck’s ingenuity. 

HH    

 

 


From: bwgen@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bwgen@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rickprice407
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:40 PM
To: bwgen@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bwgen] Re: Alpha.

 

My first suggestion is to try the NP2 sessions and see what happens.
If they work then edit those. If they don't then try something else.

Of greater importance is to understand what is causing the depression
and ADD. This also applies to the bipolar disorder you posted on
earlier. All three of these can be caused by chemical imbalances that
playing a session 24 hrs a day won't help. Knowing the root causes
is key to success for this type of problem.

Alpha is a range of frequencies(8 - 13 Hz), some of which can cause a
rise in neurotransmitters. Why does this sound like a good idea to
you? Is there something in a diagnosis you have received that
indicates a need for this? Most depression sessions concentrate in
the theta or delta waves.

Around 10 Hz or a low beta (12 -15 Hz) is sometimes helpful in
treating some forms of ADD, again the root cause is a major factor here.

Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however. As soon as
you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies.
Therefore, although using a session may help you to effectively
concentrate, you must be listening to the session for it to do any
good and have been listening to it long enough to have become
entrained (usually 5 to 7 minutes). Within a few minutes of ending a
session the brain is no longer entrained on the program's frequency.

Dr. Richard Price
RCP Consulting
http://www.rcpconsulting.us
NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!

--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, BLKSUPERMN@... wrote:
>
> I want to create a session for depression and ADD. NP2 advices that
I use
> faster brainwaves but I want to use Alpha cause of the
neurotransmitters it
> releases, My question is; are Alpha waves considered slow
brainwaves? Will using
> Alpha at 10htz be counterproductive? I know that NP2 has a session for
> depression and one for ADD, but I like to create my own so I have
more control
> over the session. I know exactly what is in the session and I can
edit it at any
> time. Thank you.
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at
http://www.aol.com
>


#14177 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: Alpha.
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My first suggestion is to try the NP2 sessions and see what happens.
If they work then edit those.  If they don't then try something else.

Of greater importance is to understand what is causing the depression
and ADD.  This also applies to the bipolar disorder you posted on
earlier.  All three of these can be caused by chemical imbalances that
  playing a session 24 hrs a day won't help.  Knowing the root causes
is key to success for this type of problem.

Alpha is a range of frequencies(8 - 13 Hz), some of which can cause a
rise in neurotransmitters.  Why does this sound like a good idea to
you?  Is there something in a diagnosis you have received that
indicates a need for this?  Most depression sessions concentrate in
the theta or delta waves.

Around 10 Hz or a low beta (12 -15 Hz) is sometimes helpful in
treating some forms of ADD, again the root cause is a major factor here.

Brainwave entrainment is a temporary phenomenon however.  As soon as
you remove the stimulus the brain moves off toward other frequencies.
    Therefore, although using a session may help you to effectively
concentrate, you must be listening to the session for it to do any
good and have been listening to it long enough to have become
entrained (usually 5 to 7 minutes).  Within a few minutes of ending a
session the brain is no longer entrained on the program's frequency.

Dr. Richard Price
RCP Consulting
http://www.rcpconsulting.us
NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!




--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, BLKSUPERMN@... wrote:
>
> I want to create a session for depression and ADD. NP2 advices that
I use
> faster brainwaves but I want to use Alpha cause of the
neurotransmitters it
> releases, My question is; are Alpha waves considered slow
brainwaves? Will using
> Alpha at 10htz be counterproductive? I know that NP2 has a session for
> depression and one for ADD, but I like to create my own so I have
more control
> over the session. I know exactly what is in the session and I can
edit it at any
> time. Thank you.
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at
http://www.aol.com
>

#14176 From: BLKSUPERMN@...
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:22 am
Subject: Alpha.
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I want to create a session for depression and ADD. NP2 advices that I use faster brainwaves but I want to use Alpha cause of the neurotransmitters it releases, My question is; are Alpha waves considered slow brainwaves? Will using Alpha at 10htz be counterproductive? I know that NP2 has a session for depression and one for ADD, but I like to create my own so I have more control over the session. I know exactly what is in the session and I can edit it at any time. Thank you.




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#14174 From: "rickprice407" <rickprice407@...>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: Question
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Assuming that by 'more deaf'you mean that you can hear sounds with
both ears and just not quite as well with one, the answer is a
conditional yes.  Very few people have ears that can hear all
frequencies and almost none with exactly the same in each.  As long as
both ears can detect the carrier tones, the brain will create the
binaural beat.  If one ear is significantly impaired with respect to
the other then monaural beats or another form of entrainment might be
more effective.

Dr. Richard Price
RCP Consulting
http://www.rcpconsulting.us
NEW Titles in Split Brain Programs and Relationships areas of the
store on our website. Still no Shipping and handling charges!



--- In bwgen@yahoogroups.com, Lince <onlince@...> wrote:
>
> If we have a ear that is more daef that the other, can we use de
binaural sounds effectively?
>   Thanks
>
>
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