actually raymond, our defense comes from God (or Higher Power). He is the buffer between us and alcohol. Our state of sobriety is dependant upon our spiritual ...
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raysworkinit
Jan 2, 2002 10:30 am
hello Tom,<br> Now if I remember right, in the beginning,Bill did,nt have nor really understood his higher power at the time he got change and came into...
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sottovoice
Jan 2, 2002 1:17 pm
Good morning and Happy New Year!<br><br>Today we are at Chapter 4 - We Agnostics, Page 44. We should start by defining some terms. "Agnostic"; is comprised of...
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scarroll1998
Jan 2, 2002 1:25 pm
Perhaps "we" was meant to show that we all have the common problem...alcoholism...and did not want to scare off newcomers who did not have any concept of a ...
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sottovoice
Jan 2, 2002 2:15 pm
Suzi-<br><br>I believe that "we" has to do with our common problem of alcoholism but in this case it may also be directed toward our relationship with God....
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scarroll1998
Jan 2, 2002 4:35 pm
That makes sense. I too believed in God, I think. But, I know also that I thought that I was not worthy of communicating with HIM. I could not even look at ...
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deuscaritasest
Jan 2, 2002 6:34 pm
Does it say in the Big Book that AA is "a bridge to normal living??" I can't fond it anywhere! Do you eventually become "normal" or are we always going to be a...
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bravefrontierer86
bravefrontie...
Jan 2, 2002 6:56 pm
We will be to that part of book in a couple of weeks. Step 10 promises - starting at bottom of pg 84. "And we have ceased fighting anything or anyone - even ...
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ptaximan
Jan 2, 2002 7:21 pm
hello all, I believed in a power greater than my self years before I was introduced to AA. What I didn't have was the relationship correct. I was "without ...
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joied2
Jan 2, 2002 7:56 pm
Hi deuscaritasest<br><br>“We, of Alcoholics Anonymous, are more than<br>one hundred men and women who have recovered<br>from a seemingly hopeless state of ...
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honey_dot_com
Jan 2, 2002 9:07 pm
The Bridge of Reason:<br>"Some of us had already walked far over the Bridge of Reason toward the desired shore of faith." (page 53)<br><br>From Bridge to ...
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rlohman1010
Jan 3, 2002 12:07 am
I couldn't have said it better. I also believe God shows his self through my program of AA, and the people that have helped me with my recovery. Also taking ...
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raysworkinit
Jan 3, 2002 12:50 am
raymond and i'm a drunk,<br>alcoholics self-centered in the extreme.<br>For me,and that why it is progress not perfection,I was " without knownledge".<br> Even...
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mikeatrain
Jan 3, 2002 5:43 am
“We are not cured of alcoholism. What we really have is a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of our spiritual condition.”<br>Pg ...
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sottovoice
Jan 3, 2002 12:34 pm
Good morning all!<br><br>***Here's a good exercise for Chapter 4. Read through and count how many times the word "prejudice" in it's various forms appears....
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honey_dot_com
Jan 3, 2002 2:17 pm
Very cool, Mike! Most people focus on the "not cured" part of that sentence. It's so refreshing to see someone focus on the MAINTENANCE part!<br><br>Thank you ...
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deuscaritasest
Jan 3, 2002 3:10 pm
Been thinking about yourself a lot lately and getting all full of that old self-pity? <br>Yep, so have I!<br>So what can I do about it today?<br>Well, I can...
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fjbruin
Jan 3, 2002 3:17 pm
Ebby did NOT die drunk. He was sober for approximately the last 2 years of his life, living on the McPike farm. See a book on Ebby written by Mel B(who ...
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honey_dot_com
Jan 3, 2002 6:19 pm
Depends on what you read. Either way, Ebby certainly impacted millions of people's lives in a powerful way. When I get to heaven, I plan on thanking him...
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oktoberskyy
Jan 3, 2002 7:28 pm
This question is directed toward ptaximan in response to the particular post in which it's stated that although you believed in a power greater than yourself, ...
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clc_29577
Jan 3, 2002 8:54 pm
you wrote "I would like to know how it is you came to get your relationship "correct" as well as what your source of knowlege was which taught you how to...
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honey_dot_com
Jan 3, 2002 9:02 pm
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oktoberskyy
Jan 4, 2002 2:44 am
Thank you Chris for the book recommendation and for taking the time to reply. I get much from your post but still feel baffled by statements like "all He wants...
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ptaximan
Jan 4, 2002 2:47 am
I thank God for my sponsor who lead me through the book. In the big book, pages 46-47 helped me define my God. Then in "how it works" I was shown the "first...
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oktoberskyy
Jan 4, 2002 2:51 am
Hi Honey,<br> When a child says "thank you", that child is giving gratitude to the source of the gratification. Makes the kid stop and appreciate having what ...
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clc_29577
Jan 4, 2002 6:45 am
Dear oktobersky,<br>the words that I imparted to you come thru very much study of all the spiritual masters that I can readily find information and quotes ...
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mikeatrain
Jan 4, 2002 10:24 am
In Reply to oktoberskyy <br><br>"I loose focus trying to pray on a daily basis. I can't say I understand the difference between prayer and meditation. I don't...
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sottovoice
Jan 4, 2002 12:45 pm
Good morning and Happy Friday!<br><br>Appendix II - "The Spiritual Experience" is found on page 569.<br><br>"The terms "spiritual experience" and "spiritual ...
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sottovoice
Jan 4, 2002 12:58 pm
I've enjoyed the posts we've had here during the study regarding spirituality, God, prayer and meditation. Many of the questions posed here are answered within...
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littlehdlady
Jan 4, 2002 2:34 pm
snip<<"we MUST listen to him and do what he says to do">><br><br>I am not so sure that is true for myself. I think the one thing that the god of my...
