I've not heard of the GMO thing so I can't answer.

Olif <OVanPelt@...> wrote:          Oh, okay. I have heard of Natren. I
have heard she uses GMOs. Is that right? Are her strains patented? If so, that
can be an indicator...

-Olif

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From: Susan Dobens
To: beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [beginnerBEDROK] Blastocystis hominis

I would just put whatever Neem is recommended orally in the bag. I've never used
it myslef but that is usually the safest way to go with something new.
Natasha had a yogurt business in Europe. She now sells probiotics under the name
"Natren." I've bought them at the HFS but you can order online too. She has a
great book Probiotics Natures Healers which I found helpful and nformative.

.


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so the black current juice doesn't feed yeast?  every juice or fruit I
ever gave my daughter seemed to make her yeasty.

Thanks,
Julie

My son had this too. Things got better when we upped his good fats...cod liver
oil, flax, etc. His diet is also extremely limited, so that probably played into
it too. His ketones dropped from the good fats and went away completely when we
introduced a limited amount of fruit back into his diet.

They have keto sticks available at drug stores in the pharmacy and you can keep
track of your levels if you are worried. A little may not be a problem, but you
don't want it to stay at a high level.....Do an archives search as I posted on
this when my son's levels are high and I know Jennifer Boddie posted a great
article....

Angie
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: mersan mersan
   To: beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 11:27 AM
   Subject: [beginnerBEDROK] ketones in urine


   Hi,
   I had a urinalysis 4 weeks into the diet and the ketones in my urine is high.
Did anyone else experience this ? I read it's due to fat being burned rather
than glucose which would make sense since I've gone to BED and cut out sugar.

   Susan


   felicity <felizatee@...> wrote:
   Here's how I do my nori: turn on the toaster over until it is bright
   red hot, open the door, lay one sheet on the little rack, close the
   door, press the button to toast, watch it. One or two seconds after
   it start to move it's done. It toasts to fast, it is so easy to burn.
   I east one or two of these with my soft boiled eggs each morning,
   felicity
   On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:02 AM, DEE33K@... wrote:

   >
   > In a message dated 12/5/07 10:26:24 PM, vickilinn13@... writes:
   >
   > > how much of it did you eat?
   > >
   > > vicki~
   > >
   > >
   >
   > I ate one little sheet. It was horrible. I won't make that mistake
   > again.
   > I ams sure you must cook it and add something to it. You certainly
   > can't
   > just eat it out of the box like I tried :-)
   >
   > Dee

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Dear Lisa,

Do you know what blood type he is?  There are kits,
$20, on the internet if you do not.

Blood type would tell you what kind of response would
be appropriate when he ask for food.  If he is a blood
type O I would send him outdoors for a heavy romp,  if
he is blood type A something soothing and meditative
to calm him down so he doesn't want to eat.

There are books out there.

Ang
--- Lisa <lisarupe@...> wrote:

> My son can eat and eat and eat until there is no
> tomorrow. He is very
> overweight at 6.5 yo. How can I tell if he is hungry
> or if the yeast is
> hungry? Usually when he asks for food I will give
> him a smoothie with
> nutrition powder (Sunrider's NuPlus) first, then if
> he still wants to
> eat after that I'll give him something. But this
> happens maybe 5 times
> in the evening. The something I give him is a rice
> cake or a hot dog
> (applegate), rice cookie or GFCF pretzels. He
> doesn't eat any junk food.
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Lisa R, Kyle's mom
>
>



      
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you are right christina. a strict stage 1 diet would not include pineapple,
blueberries or the others you mentioned. Lemon and Lime and some green apple
only on strict Stage1

   vicki~

texastykes <callen@...> wrote:
           DEFINITELY mix the YCK w/ some black currant juice, liquid stevia is
what I like best for this or even some Lakanto...I think it tastes
best with a splash of mineral water since it's so thick.

You know...of course pineapple is not in the 9th edition book yet I
BELIEVE that Donna has approved pineapple, kiwi, green apples,
blueberries as 'legal' on BED as long as YCK is taken along with them??

IF this is correct, then personally, I think it's because the acid
fruits (cranberry, lemon, etc) is so hard for most to stick by and IF
one is doing the diet, drinking lots of YCK, eating CVs, and doing
food combining, that an occasional green apple, kiwi, pineapple, etc
could be offset by the YCK.

I KNOW that I have read some CBEs post that pineapple, green apples
and such are OK however, I cannot confirm if it's more for the
transitional phase and phase II?

I know when I'm eating really well on BED, I do enjoy some blueberries
and green apples at times but for me, I think they are trigger foods.
If I eat some pineapple, I want more. Sometimes with a green apple.
Blueberries I'm OK with although my 3 yr old LOVES wild blueberries.
But then I have really bad yeast issues still so that may be why.

I think if you were going 100% TRUE strict BED, then it would be best
to stick to the acid fruits (lemon, lime, etc).

Can anyone validate or dispute this for me please? Can you confirm if
subacid fruits ARE BED legal stage 1 (I'm thinking NO for strict BED)
or if they are transitional only?? Thanks! Christina

--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, Natalia Ibbott <nvibbott@...>
wrote:
>
> Christina,
> Thanks very much. I do have Black current juice and can get the
others. Just wondering if Pineapple ok, we are dealing with yeast
here.
> Natalia
>
>
>
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Hi....I'm encouraging that the posting all be done on the bedrok
community message board.  Jennifer and several others are only posting
there and once we get everyone registered, we'll be closing the posting
here.

until later...Diane Farr
http://www.bedrokcommunity.org

Natalia....it takes some getting used to for some.  I actually have to
put it in capsules for Thomas.  I dont' know if this is an option.

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--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, "Natalia Ibbott" <nvibbott@...>
wrote:
>
> I have a hard time to get little one 4 yo to drink BED vitality
drink,
> tried stevia in it, but he is not very interesting
> Any advices?
> Thank you to all creative ladies
> Natalia
>

Diane

Sorry I still haven't managed to figure it out, and I'd really like to join.

Pia

Diane Farr <dianefarr@...> wrote:
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  have have not.  I have got to find some some time and another computer
  to go back and see the steps specifically.  It recognizes my computer
  so I can't start from scratch.  I won't shut the posting down until
  everyone is on board.

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Julie,

   Most of them use the ball jars. I use to see them in Walmart during canning
season. If u don't get them any glass jar will do. Avoid plastic. No, I don't
sterilize them. After they come out of the dishwasher I do pour hot baking soda
water and  swirl them once. I have heard that just washing them in the
dishwasher is good enough..

   Sangeetha


jjcox22 <jjcox22@...> wrote:
           do you use mason jars for making the YCK? Where do you get them?
Do I need to sterilize them before culturing the coconut water?

Thanks everyone!!!
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Here's how I do my nori: turn on the toaster over until it is bright
red hot, open the door, lay one sheet on the little rack, close the
door, press the button  to toast, watch it. One or two seconds after
it start to move it's done. It toasts to fast, it is so easy to burn.
I east one or two of these with my soft boiled eggs each morning,
felicity
On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:02 AM, DEE33K@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 12/5/07 10:26:24 PM, vickilinn13@... writes:
>
> > how much of it did you eat?
> >
> > vicki~
> >
> >
>
> I ate one little sheet. It was horrible. I won't make that mistake
> again.
> I ams sure you must cook it and add something to it. You certainly
> can't
> just eat it out of the box like I tried :-)
>
> Dee


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That is hard to answer Julie. Depends on how and when they were shipped and all
other details. Have u kept the whole coconut in the refrigerator??? In winter I
am able to keep the coconuts in my van (since its keeps them real cold and I do
not have an extra refrigerator) and still use that after 2- 3 days. Usually I
get them and crack them open within a day. I still suggest that u crack them
open and freeze the water and the spoonmeat.

   I hope u will get more responses from others for this question.

   Sangeetha




jjcox22 <jjcox22@...> wrote:
           Sangeetha,
thank you for your answer. I still haven't opened the coconut, how
long is it good for?
Thanks,
Julie

--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, sangeetha pai
<sangeethapai@...> wrote:
>
> Julie,
>
> To make YCK u require the kefir starter/ED/ culture starter
packets.L planatarum is one of the strains in those packs. Ecobloom is
added when we make CV's. We can do CV's without them too. The coconut
water has enough sugar for the strains to feed on...no need to add
ecobloom.
>
> I would suggest that u wait for the starter culture. Meanwhile, u
can freeze the coconut water in ziplocs. When ur packs come in then u
can bring the coconut water to luke warm temperature and continue the
procedure. U can find the details in the files sections as to how to
go about. The coconut meat also can be frozen or refrigerated upto 1
week in the refrigerator and for a much longer time in the freezer.
>
> Once u have ur YCK u can add 1/2 cup YCK in the blended coconut
meat and allow it to rest for another 8- 12 hours.
>
> If u still have ananswered questions don't hestitate to post.
>
> Sangeetha.
>
> jjcox22 <jjcox22@...> wrote:
> OK,
> I've read everything and still not sure of something. I bought my
> young green coconut but I don't have my ecobloom or culture starter
yet.
>
> I have some l. planatarum, can I use that until I get my starter?
>
> What do I use in place of the ecobloom?
>
> Thanks,
> Julie
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Oh, okay. I have heard of Natren. I have heard she uses GMOs. Is that right? Are
her strains patented? If so, that can be an indicator...

-Olif

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Susan Dobens
   To: beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:49 PM
   Subject: Re: [beginnerBEDROK] Blastocystis hominis


   I would just put whatever Neem is recommended orally in the bag. I've never
used it myslef but that is usually the safest way to go with something new.
   Natasha had a yogurt business in Europe. She now sells probiotics under the
name "Natren." I've bought them at the HFS but you can order online too. She has
a great book Probiotics Natures Healers which I found helpful and nformative.


   .


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In a message dated 12/5/07 10:26:24 PM, vickilinn13@... writes:


> how much of it did you eat?
>
> vicki~
>
>

I ate one little sheet.   It was horrible.   I won't make that mistake again.
   I ams sure you must cook it and add something to it.   You certainly can't
just eat it out of the box like I tried   :-)

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Also, you may want to register over at BEDROK COMMUNITY so that your
question gets answered sooner (correctly)... Christina
--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, "texastykes" <callen@...>
wrote:
>
> DEFINITELY mix the YCK w/ some black currant juice, liquid stevia
is
> what I like best for this or even some Lakanto...I think it tastes
> best with a splash of mineral water since it's so thick.
>
> You know...of course pineapple is not in the 9th edition book yet
I
> BELIEVE that Donna has approved pineapple, kiwi, green apples,
> blueberries as 'legal' on BED as long as YCK is taken along with
them??
>
> IF this is correct, then personally, I think it's because the acid
> fruits (cranberry, lemon, etc) is so hard for most to stick by and
IF
> one is doing the diet, drinking lots of YCK, eating CVs, and doing
> food combining, that an occasional green apple, kiwi, pineapple,
etc
> could be offset by the YCK.
>
> I KNOW that I have read some CBEs post that pineapple, green
apples
> and such are OK however, I cannot confirm if it's more for the
> transitional phase and phase II?
>
> I know when I'm eating really well on BED, I do enjoy some
blueberries
> and green apples at times but for me, I think they are trigger
foods.
> If I eat some pineapple, I want more.  Sometimes with a green
apple.
> Blueberries I'm OK with although my 3 yr old LOVES wild
blueberries.
> But then I have really bad yeast issues still so that may be why.
>
> I think if you were going 100% TRUE strict BED, then it would be
best
> to stick to the acid fruits (lemon, lime, etc).
>
> Can anyone validate or dispute this for me please? Can you confirm
if
> subacid fruits ARE BED legal stage 1 (I'm thinking NO for strict
BED)
> or if they are transitional only?? Thanks! Christina
>
> --- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, Natalia Ibbott <nvibbott@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Christina,
> >   Thanks very much.  I do have Black current juice and can get
the
> others.  Just wondering if Pineapple ok, we are dealing with yeast
> here.
> >   Natalia
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Also, you have to be REALLY careful of the Asian brand of nori and
sea weed...MOST of them will contain some MSG, even sugar and such
in them for the flavoring. While it's delicious, it's not good for
you...

If you do have plain nori, you can place a sheet over a hot stove
burner, briefly warm it up like a tortilla (turning it over)...since
it's so thin, it takes a second or two then while it's hot, sprinkle
with celtic sea salt. Powdered red pepper is yummy on it too but
don't give it to your kids! :-)

I like mine wrapped around quinoa or millet fried rice.  Christina
-- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, vicki hartzog
<vickilinn13@...> wrote:
>
> how much of it did you eat?
>
>   vicki~
>
> DEE33K@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/5/07 1:35:47 PM, vickilinn13@... writes:
>
> > each package explains in detail how each kind of ocean vegetable
should be
> > prepared. there are other kinds of ocean vegetables too like
Nori. you can
> > buy this in sheets like they use to make sushi. you can wrap all
kinds of stuff
> > in them.
> >
> >
>
> OK, please don't make the mistake I did with the Nori. I read
about it as a
> "snack" on an article.... and I bought it at my health food store.
I
> thought wow, I can just take this to work and if I get hungry
after lunch use it
> for a snack.... Oh NO! I have not been so sick!!!
>
> I love sushi but oh my goodness!!!!! NEVER again! You have to use
it as a
> wrap, I guess. This didn't have any directions on it as it is
foreign.
>
> Blessings,
> Dee
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DEFINITELY mix the YCK w/ some black currant juice, liquid stevia is
what I like best for this or even some Lakanto...I think it tastes
best with a splash of mineral water since it's so thick.

You know...of course pineapple is not in the 9th edition book yet I
BELIEVE that Donna has approved pineapple, kiwi, green apples,
blueberries as 'legal' on BED as long as YCK is taken along with them??

IF this is correct, then personally, I think it's because the acid
fruits (cranberry, lemon, etc) is so hard for most to stick by and IF
one is doing the diet, drinking lots of YCK, eating CVs, and doing
food combining, that an occasional green apple, kiwi, pineapple, etc
could be offset by the YCK.

I KNOW that I have read some CBEs post that pineapple, green apples
and such are OK however, I cannot confirm if it's more for the
transitional phase and phase II?

I know when I'm eating really well on BED, I do enjoy some blueberries
and green apples at times but for me, I think they are trigger foods.
If I eat some pineapple, I want more.  Sometimes with a green apple.
Blueberries I'm OK with although my 3 yr old LOVES wild blueberries.
But then I have really bad yeast issues still so that may be why.

I think if you were going 100% TRUE strict BED, then it would be best
to stick to the acid fruits (lemon, lime, etc).

Can anyone validate or dispute this for me please? Can you confirm if
subacid fruits ARE BED legal stage 1 (I'm thinking NO for strict BED)
or if they are transitional only?? Thanks! Christina

--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, Natalia Ibbott <nvibbott@...>
wrote:
>
> Christina,
>   Thanks very much.  I do have Black current juice and can get the
others.  Just wondering if Pineapple ok, we are dealing with yeast
here.
>   Natalia
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I can never recall the name since I never focus on drinking the juice
in it...St. Cruz? Anyway, there is this brand in the organic juice
sections...usually next to the Knudson juices in 1qt glass bottles
with a metal screw on top.  Their lemonade and raspberry lemonade
generally go on sale for $1.00 a bottle.  Since my husband sticks to
his SAD diet, I buy these when they are on sale, have him drink the
lemonade and use the bottles for YCK. It's great because it's exactly
1qt. If you can't find those, the 100% cranberry, pomegrante glass
bottles are the same and you CAN drink those! :-)  Christina
--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, "jjcox22" <jjcox22@...> wrote:
>
> do you use mason jars for making the YCK?  Where do you get them?
> Do I need to sterilize them before culturing the coconut water?
>
> Thanks everyone!!!
> Julie
>

I would just put whatever Neem is recommended orally in the bag. I've never used
it myslef but that is usually the safest way to go with something new.
   Natasha had a yogurt business in Europe. She now sells probiotics under the
name "Natren." I've bought them at the HFS but you can order online too. She has
a great book Probiotics Natures Healers which I found helpful and nformative.

Olif <OVanPelt@...> wrote:
           Susan:
"Donna has advised us to use NEEM Powder in the enema bag. I don't think enzymes
would be appropriate in an enema bag. I think they could damage the mucous coat.
"

That is what I feared with the enzymes. Thanks for letting me know about the
neem though! How much powder per bag are we talking?

"Natasha Trenev has a nice Bifuda powder that could make a good implant for
you."

Who is this?

"What type of organism is it. ? amoeba or other protozoa?"

It is a single celled organism. It used to be classified as a yeast, but since
DNA analysis, they changed it. Here is what Wikipedia says about its
classification:

Blastocystis is neither yeast nor a protozoan. It is placed in a new Kingdom
known as the Stramenopiles. Other Stramenopiles include brown algae, mildew,
diatoms, the organism that caused the Irish potato famine, and the organism
responsible for Sudden oak death disease.

Here is the link, if you are interested in more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blastocystis

I think the most important thing may be to build up my immune system, and that
is what BED is for! :-)

Thanks,
Olif

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how much of it did you eat?

   vicki~

DEE33K@... wrote:

In a message dated 12/5/07 1:35:47 PM, vickilinn13@... writes:

> each package explains in detail how each kind of ocean vegetable should be
> prepared. there are other kinds of ocean vegetables too like Nori. you can
> buy this in sheets like they use to make sushi. you can wrap all kinds of
stuff
> in them.
>
>

OK, please don't make the mistake I did with the Nori. I read about it as a
"snack" on an article.... and I bought it at my health food store. I
thought wow, I can just take this to work and if I get hungry after lunch use it
for a snack.... Oh NO! I have not been so sick!!!

I love sushi but oh my goodness!!!!! NEVER again! You have to use it as a
wrap, I guess. This didn't have any directions on it as it is foreign.

Blessings,
Dee

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Lisa,

   most fries that you buy have gluten in them. flour of one sort or another on
the outside as a coating and they are not red potatoes. you sure can make your
own fries out of red potatoes and coconut oil. lots of us do!

   keep it up. you will get there!

   vicki~

Lisa <lisarupe@...> wrote:
           My goal is to be rid of rice by the middle of the month - but I don't
know what to replace it with - he eats so much of it. I make some meats
with vegetables in them, but certainly not 80/20. He won't eat a
vegetable yet. If I bribe him with fries he can get down ONE tablespoon
in about 20 bites. Major gag drama boy. Why aren't french fries on the
diet - is it bc of the oils? Can we fry red potatoes in a BED oil to
make fries or does that break combining rules?
I'll get there :-)
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Christina,
   Thanks very much.  I do have Black current juice and can get the others.  Just
wondering if Pineapple ok, we are dealing with yeast here.
   Natalia



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do you use mason jars for making the YCK?  Where do you get them?
Do I need to sterilize them before culturing the coconut water?

Thanks everyone!!!
Julie

Sangeetha,
thank you for your answer.  I still haven't opened the coconut, how
long is it good for?
Thanks,
Julie








--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, sangeetha pai
<sangeethapai@...> wrote:
>
> Julie,
>
>   To make YCK u require the kefir starter/ED/ culture starter
packets.L planatarum is one of the strains in those packs. Ecobloom is
added when we make CV's. We can do CV's without them too. The coconut
water has enough sugar for the strains to feed on...no need to add
ecobloom.
>
>   I would suggest that u wait for the starter culture. Meanwhile, u
can freeze the coconut water in ziplocs. When ur packs come in then u
can bring the coconut water to  luke warm temperature and continue the
procedure. U can find the details in the files sections as to how to
go about. The coconut meat also can be frozen or refrigerated upto 1
week in the refrigerator and for a much longer time in the freezer.
>
>   Once u have ur YCK u can add 1/2 cup YCK in the blended coconut
meat and allow it to rest for another 8- 12 hours.
>
>   If u still have ananswered questions don't hestitate to post.
>
>   Sangeetha.
>
> jjcox22 <jjcox22@...> wrote:
>           OK,
> I've read everything and still not sure of something. I bought my
> young green coconut but I don't have my ecobloom or culture starter
yet.
>
> I have some l. planatarum, can I use that until I get my starter?
>
> What do I use in place of the ecobloom?
>
> Thanks,
> Julie
>
>
>
>
>
>
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My family  LOVES this now and yes, it's BED legal. Just don't combine
it with a protein or other starchy veggie.

Cut red potatoes in french fry sizes.  Fry in organic, unfiltered
coconut oil. Sprinkle w/ Celtic Sea salt and enjoy! Christina

--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa" <lisarupe@...> wrote:
>
> My goal is to be rid of rice by the middle of the month - but I
don't
> know what to replace it with - he eats so much of it. I make some
meats
> with vegetables in them, but certainly not 80/20. He won't eat a
> vegetable yet. If I bribe him with fries he can get down ONE
tablespoon
> in about 20 bites. Major gag drama boy. Why aren't french fries on
the
> diet - is it bc of the oils? Can we fry red potatoes in a BED oil to
> make fries or does that break combining rules?
> I'll get there :-)
> Lisa R, Kyle's mom
>

In a message dated 12/5/07 1:35:47 PM, vickilinn13@... writes:


> each package explains in detail how each kind of ocean vegetable should be
> prepared. there are other kinds of ocean vegetables too like Nori. you can
> buy this in sheets like they use to make sushi. you can wrap all kinds of
stuff
> in them.
>
>

OK, please don't make the mistake I did with the Nori.   I read about it as a
"snack" on an article....   and I bought it at my health food store.   I
thought wow,   I can just take this to work and if I get hungry after lunch use
it
for a snack.... Oh NO!    I have not been so sick!!!

I love sushi but oh my goodness!!!!!   NEVER again!   You have to use it as a
wrap, I guess.   This didn't have any directions on it as it is foreign.

Blessings,
Dee


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HI,
   Do you happen to have the BED book ?  There are 3 recipes for ocean veg in
there.  I bought ocean veg in the summer and had no clue what to do with them. 
I got the book 2 weeks ago and am FINALLY using the ocean veg.

   Susan


Lisa <lisarupe@...> wrote:
           Hi Everyone,
First thank you for the encouragement, but please don't get the idea
I'm a pitty party mom unable to handle all this LOL! I wouldn't be
here if I was the type of person to sit back and let things happen by
themselves. I can feel that this is the diet Kyle needs but I have
put off doing it for over a year bc it is so complicated. God
promises not to give us more than we can handle, and some days I
wonder if he doesn't have me confused with someone else :-) but we do
just fine - everyday.
We are so much further along in this diet than many newcomers bc we
have been doing Sunrider and GFCF soy free for 3 years and are very
healthy and eat well. Kyle is able to tolerate many more foods than
he could 2 years ago.
I'm not confused about any one of the principles in BED (in fact
sunrider teaches the 80/20 acid ash eating and I've found some
benefit from the blood type diet this past year) it's just that doing
them all together is overwhelming and I haven't gotten to the point
where I can even visualize a whole BED meal for my family.
Ocean Vegetables - I am COMPLETELY ignorant about these. I have no
idea where to buy them, what they taste like, what parts of them you
eat and how to prepare them!
Thank you :-)
Lisa R, Kyle's mom

--- In beginnerBEDROK@yahoogroups.com, sangeetha pai
<sangeethapai@...> wrote:
>
> Lisa,
>
> Congratulations for getting things started. Right now u r doing
the YCK and CV..u will find that Kyle will too with a little bit of
encouragement and finding the right ways to get him started.
>
> I am not surprised that u r finding that this diet tough. No
doubt it seems tough...because we have to learn new ways of eating,
cooking and feeding and also encouraging your son to eat if not enjoy
his food.
>
> Actually, LEARNING seems a little more easier than UNLEARNING our
old ways/ habits. That is the reason that u will benefit from adding
new foods before taking away old foods.
>
> When i started the diet for my son my goal was to cure/recover my
son. I was always frustrated since I was keeping a goal with a time
limit. That can be v frustrating. Now, my goal is more about making
BED a lifestyle and slowly converting every unhealthy cell into
healthy ones.Someday, he will be adorned with healthy nourished cells
if I keep this going and he will have recovered. I visualize that
each time when doubts set in.
I could use some replacement ideas for ketchup and easy snacks to put
in his backpack for church and after therapy sessions. Right now we
pack potato or corn chips and envirokids rice bars
>
> You could give us a list of foods he eats then I will be able to
guide u as to how u can get this to work. I know it is more easier
to get a 3 year old kid to get into this diet than a 6 year
old....but it can be done. Also, tell me what principle of the BED is
confusing u. I will be able to guide u.
>
> Also, since u are already on this diet a little bit, u may be
going thro a little detox urself. Remember we need to align our BODY
MIND AND SPIRIT. BED is a good diet to cleanse, detox and nourish.
You need to find ways to cleanse, detox and nourish ur MIND and
SPIRIT. I do that when my kids are away at school or when they are
asleep through reading books that teach me how to SELF SOOTHE myself.
We know we are put in a tough situation where u feel that we have
more on our plate than we can handle. And somehow we are among other
people where everything seems to be okay inspite of all the junk food
other kids are eating. We see the contrast. Each one of us in this
group have felt that way and each moment seemed hard at first. I
always feel the need to be "spiritually plugged in" to understand and
deal with the task on hand.
>
> I find myself vulnerable and feel like a victim of circumstances.
I still slip, I still get frustarted, I still cry and lament over
what I am dealing with. I allow all negative emotions to flow away
from my body. That is my DETOX. When I do that, my inner spirit finds
a room to express the stronger side in me which was entwined among
all other negative emotions.
>
> The strong woman inside u needs space to express the strength and
beauty.
>
> This works for me each time. See whether that works for u.
>
> Remain encouraged,
>
> Sangeetha.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lisa <lisarupe@...> wrote:
> we're doing the yck and I'm eating the cv, I don't know
if Kyle ever
> will (6yo asd).
> I am too overwhelmed by all the different pieces to go further than
> that. Does anyone have a simple list of what to eat and what not to
> eat?
> Is rice allowed or not (I saw recipes with rice flours, but I
thought
> it wasn't allowed). Anyone have any "treat" recipes? I may need
> somethign to replace Kyle's rice cookies.
> I noticed many of the recipes (in files section) said they didn't
> follow food combing rules, so is that not important? Do foods have
to
> be combined at all - if my son won't eat vegetables, can he just
have
> meat for dinner without potatoes, or the potatoes without the meat?
> About soaking. I understand soaking whole grains and nuts, but you
soak
> flours too? How do you do that? What do you soak them in? It would
have
> to be part of the recipe?
> Yes, I have read the book, but it was a long time ago. I don't have
> time to read the whole thing again, I just need more info on the
how to
> implement areas.
> Thanks for your help!
> Mom at wits end-
> Lisa R, Kyle's mom
>
>
>
>
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Susan:
"Donna has advised us to use NEEM Powder in the enema bag. I don't think enzymes
would be appropriate in an enema bag. I think they could damage the mucous coat.
"

That is what I feared with the enzymes. Thanks for letting me know about the
neem though! How much powder per bag are we talking?

"Natasha Trenev has a nice Bifuda powder that could make a good implant for
you."

Who is this?

"What type of organism is it. ? amoeba or other protozoa?"

It is a single celled organism. It used to be classified as a yeast, but since
DNA analysis, they changed it. Here is what Wikipedia says about its
classification:

Blastocystis is neither yeast nor a protozoan. It is placed in a new Kingdom
known as the Stramenopiles. Other Stramenopiles include brown algae, mildew,
diatoms, the organism that caused the Irish potato famine, and the organism
responsible for Sudden oak death disease.

Here is the link, if you are interested in more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blastocystis

I think the most important thing may be to build up my immune system, and that
is what BED is for! :-)

Thanks,
Olif

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My goal is to be rid of rice by the middle of the month - but I don't
know what to replace it with - he eats so much of it. I make some meats
with vegetables in them, but certainly not 80/20. He won't eat a
vegetable yet. If I bribe him with fries he can get down ONE tablespoon
in about 20 bites. Major gag drama boy. Why aren't french fries on the
diet - is it bc of the oils? Can we fry red potatoes in a BED oil to
make fries or does that break combining rules?
I'll get there :-)
Lisa R, Kyle's mom