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#9767 From: "Leigh Manndel" <manndel@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 9:08 am
Subject: question on packing up books 		leemanndel
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Hi everyone,
 
I'm a new member here, who's recently discovered I'm the horrified host of those darn bedbugs, I
think I'm still in shock.
 
anyhow, I have hundreds of gorgous books, that I would never part with. I went thru the archives for the
group, and discovered that the worst thing to do was store them in cardboard boxes--is this really
true??
My plan was to put my books in Banker's boxes, and then enclose them in plastic bags.  I just looked
at a bankers' box, and actually, they don't have those enclosed wavy areas, just straight cardboard.
But is the best box a plastic or Tupperware kind?  Wanted to make sure, as that will cost considerably more....
 
Also, want to get a steamer for my clothes, but the only one I can afford is the Salton Sea brand one
for steaming clothes, at Walmart.  I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada, and things are a lot more expensive here.  That model, for steaming clothes, is $90, and they have an even smaller one for $30.   Anyone have any idea if this (the $90 one)  would
be sufficient for clothes and similar stuff, and do you need an "industrial" strength steamer?
 
Would much appreciate any replies, as hopefully, someone is taking me "box-shopping" later
today :-))
 
Thanks so much,
Leigh

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#9769 From: Dee Webber <dulcimer@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 4:44 pm
Subject: RE: [Bedbug Support Message] question on packing up books 		dulcimer60
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You'll find disagreement here about cardboard boxes.  

We used both plastic & cardboard, but any cardboard we used was well sealed. Every corrugated edge was duct-taped over, & we covered the corners with tape, as well.  There was no way for anything to get in~ or out! The cardboard boxes we used were boxes we already had things stored in. I just taped them over very well.

Unless I'm picturing the wrong thing, I can't imagine that banker's boxes would be strong enough for books.  I worked in a university bookstore, & had to box & ship textbooks to auxiliary campuses~ I know the weight can build up fast.  

Just remember that box corners can poke holes in plastic bags pretty easily. Just for ease, I would use plastic tubs with solid tops (no moving latches) & seal the tops all the way around with duct tape. if the are holes in the handles (sometimes there are), tape them over, too.

If expense is an issue, well-taped cardboard boxes might suffice.  Heavy file boxes would be my choice. 

Dee


To: bedbugger@yahoogroups.com
From: manndel@...
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:08:10 -0700
Subject: [Bedbug Support Message] question on packing up books




Hi everyone,
 
I'm a new member here, who's recently discovered I'm the horrified host of those darn bedbugs, I
think I'm still in shock.
 
anyhow, I have hundreds of gorgous books, that I would never part with. I went thru the archives for the
group, and discovered that the worst thing to do was store them in cardboard boxes--is this really
true??
My plan was to put my books in Banker's boxes, and then enclose them in plastic bags.  I just looked
at a bankers' box, and actually, they don't have those enclosed wavy areas, just straight cardboard.
But is the best box a plastic or Tupperware kind?  Wanted to make sure, as that will cost considerably more....
 
Also, want to get a steamer for my clothes, but the only one I can afford is the Salton Sea brand one
for steaming clothes, at Walmart.  I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada, and things are a lot more expensive here.  That model, for steaming clothes, is $90, and they have an even smaller one for $30.   Anyone have any idea if this (the $90 one)  would
be sufficient for clothes and similar stuff, and do you need an "industrial" strength steamer?
 
Would much appreciate any replies, as hopefully, someone is taking me "box-shopping" later
today :-))
 
Thanks so much,
Leigh


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#9770 From: Robin Lives <robinlives@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 6:33 pm
Subject: RE: [Bedbug Support Message] question on packing up books 		robinclair1
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If you plan to bag up the boxes for a 18 months or so, I don't see a problem with it.  I think the idea is that the bugs can hide more easily in cardboard, but, if they are enclosed long-term, they will die no matter what kind of box they're in.
 
Robin
 
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From: manndel@...
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:08:10 -0700
Subject: [Bedbug Support Message] question on packing up books



Hi everyone,
 
I'm a new member here, who's recently discovered I'm the horrified host of those darn bedbugs, I
think I'm still in shock.
 
anyhow, I have hundreds of gorgous books, that I would never part with. I went thru the archives for the
group, and discovered that the worst thing to do was store them in cardboard boxes--is this really
true??
My plan was to put my books in Banker's boxes, and then enclose them in plastic bags.  I just looked
at a bankers' box, and actually, they don't have those enclosed wavy areas, just straight cardboard.
But is the best box a plastic or Tupperware kind?  Wanted to make sure, as that will cost considerably more....
 
Also, want to get a steamer for my clothes, but the only one I can afford is the Salton Sea brand one
for steaming clothes, at Walmart.  I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada, and things are a lot more expensive here.  That model, for steaming clothes, is $90, and they have an even smaller one for $30.   Anyone have any idea if this (the $90 one)  would
be sufficient for clothes and similar stuff, and do you need an "industrial" strength steamer?
 
Would much appreciate any replies, as hopefully, someone is taking me "box-shopping" later
today :-))
 
Thanks so much,
Leigh


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#9790 From: "esuelin31" <esuelin31@...>
Date: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: question on packing up books 		esuelin31
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--- In bedbugger@yahoogroups.com, "Leigh Manndel" <manndel@...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm a new member here, who's recently discovered I'm the horrified

host of

> those darn bedbugs, I

> think I'm still in shock.

>

> anyhow, I have hundreds of gorgous books, that I would never part

with. I

> went thru the archives for the

> group, and discovered that the worst thing to do was store them in

cardboard

> boxes--is this really

> true??

> My plan was to put my books in Banker's boxes, and then enclose them

in

> plastic bags.  I just looked

> at a bankers' box, and actually, they don't have those enclosed wavy

areas,

> just straight cardboard.

> But is the best box a plastic or Tupperware kind?  Wanted to make

sure, as

> that will cost considerably more....

>

> Also, want to get a steamer for my clothes, but the only one I can

afford is

> the Salton Sea brand one

> for steaming clothes, at Walmart.  I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada,

and

> things are a lot more expensive here.  That model, for steaming

clothes, is

> $90, and they have an even smaller one for $30.   Anyone have any idea

if

> this (the $90 one)  would

> be sufficient for clothes and similar stuff, and do you need an

"industrial"

> strength steamer?

>

> Would much appreciate any replies, as hopefully, someone is taking me

> box-shopping" later

> today :-))

>

> Thanks so much,

> Leigh

>


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#9791 From: deborah november <deblynntshirt@...>
Date: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Re: question on packing up books 		deblynntshirt
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Leigh...I am not familiar with a Bankers Box, but cardboard , by nature, makes an ideal harborage for bugs of all kinds...maybe Bankers boxes are corrugated?? in any case, if you enclose the boxes in doubles 3 mm contracters bags, dusted inside with some DE and then closed up with a secured cable tie, that should do the trick....but just storing in uncovered cardboard imo is risky....I think its all about minimizing your chances of any bugs escaping...so the plastic bags are very important and its important to double them up so as to not allow any tears for escape....even if you did purchase the plastic containers from Walmart or any large discount store, I always recommend clear in color and also to line them with plastic contractor or lawn and leaf bags, that have been dusted inside with DE..
I did this...There is speculation about how long you need to store things away...a rule of thumb is , to be on the safe side, 18 months....I know it sounds long but the time will pass...I stored my things away for 2 years....hope this helps...

--- On Fri, 7/10/09, esuelin31 <esuelin31@...> wrote:

From: esuelin31 <esuelin31@...>
Subject: [Bedbug Support Message] Re: question on packing up books
To: bedbugger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 9:24 AM


--- In bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com, "Leigh Manndel" <manndel@... > wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm a new member here, who's recently discovered I'm the horrified
host of
> those darn bedbugs, I
> think I'm still in shock.
>
> anyhow, I have hundreds of gorgous books, that I would never part
with. I
> went thru the archives for the
> group, and discovered that the worst thing to do was store them in
cardboard
> boxes--is this really
> true??
> My plan was to put my books in Banker's boxes, and then enclose them
in
> plastic bags. I just looked
> at a bankers' box, and actually, they don't have those enclosed wavy
areas,
> just straight cardboard.
> But is the best box a plastic or Tupperware kind? Wanted to make
sure, as
> that will cost considerably more....
>
> Also, want to get a steamer for my clothes, but the only one I can
afford is
> the Salton Sea brand one
> for steaming clothes, at Walmart. I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada,
and
> things are a lot more expensive here. That model, for steaming
clothes, is
> $90, and they have an even smaller one for $30. Anyone have any idea
if
> this (the $90 one) would
> be sufficient for clothes and similar stuff, and do you need an
"industrial"
> strength steamer?
>
> Would much appreciate any replies, as hopefully, someone is taking me
> box-shopping" later
> today :-))
>
> Thanks so much,
> Leigh
>



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#9792 From: deborah november <deblynntshirt@...>
Date: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Re: question on packing up books 		deblynntshirt
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Leigh, I meant to say ..maybe Bankers boxes are NOT corrugated..which would lessen the areas for harborage.....if you go online , onto bedbugger, there are bedbug photos from an entomologist who kept them in clear glass jars, and inside the jars he placed corrugated cardboard....a picture is worth a thousand words...the bugs find ideal harborage with the cardboard.  I met a bedbug sufferer who visited with the entomologist at his office in NYC...she said that when she looked at the jar, with the cardboard inside, she saw NO bugs...but , the minute the entomologist placed his warm hands onto the outside of the jar, the bugs came out by the hundreds....they sensed the human hand and they were hiding within the cardboard....I never forgot her telling me this.  Way back when I remember ordering Chinese food and the delivery person came with the food in a cardboard box, my guest told me to immediately get rid of the box because the cardboard from restaurants is notorious for hiding cockroaches and their eggs......lesson learned, I never let any cardboard box from a food establishment come into my home.......just my opinion..better safe than sorry, esp. when it comes to bedbugs......deb

--- On Fri, 7/10/09, esuelin31 <esuelin31@...> wrote:

From: esuelin31 <esuelin31@...>
Subject: [Bedbug Support Message] Re: question on packing up books
To: bedbugger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 9:24 AM


--- In bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com, "Leigh Manndel" <manndel@... > wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm a new member here, who's recently discovered I'm the horrified
host of
> those darn bedbugs, I
> think I'm still in shock.
>
> anyhow, I have hundreds of gorgous books, that I would never part
with. I
> went thru the archives for the
> group, and discovered that the worst thing to do was store them in
cardboard
> boxes--is this really
> true??
> My plan was to put my books in Banker's boxes, and then enclose them
in
> plastic bags. I just looked
> at a bankers' box, and actually, they don't have those enclosed wavy
areas,
> just straight cardboard.
> But is the best box a plastic or Tupperware kind? Wanted to make
sure, as
> that will cost considerably more....
>
> Also, want to get a steamer for my clothes, but the only one I can
afford is
> the Salton Sea brand one
> for steaming clothes, at Walmart. I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada,
and
> things are a lot more expensive here. That model, for steaming
clothes, is
> $90, and they have an even smaller one for $30. Anyone have any idea
if
> this (the $90 one) would
> be sufficient for clothes and similar stuff, and do you need an
"industrial"
> strength steamer?
>
> Would much appreciate any replies, as hopefully, someone is taking me
> box-shopping" later
> today :-))
>
> Thanks so much,
> Leigh
>



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#9794 From: "davidhealey88" <davidhealey88@...>
Date: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: question on packing up books 		davidhealey88
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Leigh,

I read on BedbugGuru.com that bed bugs can hide in very small cracks and holes. Cardboard boxes will certainly provide many such places.

I think putting them in a plastic box and then storing in freezer for a few weeks should kill the bed bugs. However I am not sure of the impact on books. It may impact paper quality.


--- In bedbugger@yahoogroups.com, "Leigh Manndel" <manndel@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm a new member here, who's recently discovered I'm the horrified host of
> those darn bedbugs, I
> think I'm still in shock.
>
> anyhow, I have hundreds of gorgous books, that I would never part with. I
> went thru the archives for the
> group, and discovered that the worst thing to do was store them in cardboard
> boxes--is this really
> true??
> My plan was to put my books in Banker's boxes, and then enclose them in
> plastic bags. I just looked
> at a bankers' box, and actually, they don't have those enclosed wavy areas,
> just straight cardboard.
> But is the best box a plastic or Tupperware kind? Wanted to make sure, as
> that will cost considerably more....
>
> Also, want to get a steamer for my clothes, but the only one I can afford is
> the Salton Sea brand one
> for steaming clothes, at Walmart. I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada, and
> things are a lot more expensive here. That model, for steaming clothes, is
> $90, and they have an even smaller one for $30. Anyone have any idea if
> this (the $90 one) would
> be sufficient for clothes and similar stuff, and do you need an "industrial"
> strength steamer?
>
> Would much appreciate any replies, as hopefully, someone is taking me
> box-shopping" later
> today :-))
>
> Thanks so much,
> Leigh
>


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