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Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch

No such thing as overkill...because they won't die.  We've had two exterminators out, stripped and washed everything single piece of fabric, and coated with DE....3 new bites last night.

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Mary Maine <seaoceanlady@...> wrote:
From: Mary Maine <seaoceanlady@...>
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch
To: bedbugger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:19 AM

I was gong to also use kleen Free or Murphys Oil. My question do you dilute Murphys oil as it is too thick to spray on.So will steam my place use MO or KF then apply  DE. Over kill or what???

--- On Wed, 8/27/08, joyy011 <joyy011@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: joyy011 <joyy011@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch
To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
Received: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:39 AM

The type I bought also says you need ventilation when applying for large amounts of time. i lightly sprinkled around my bed, using a baby powder bottle, when I was having the initial bedbug infestation. I also pulled my bed away from the wall and applied it to the baseboards around the bed. I also put some under my mattress/but not on the mattress itself, which is on a wood futon frame. I sprinkled the bottom of the frame and also along the carpet around the futon frame.
Once the powder settles in it should be fine to my understanding. You need ventilation if you are applying it and it's flying around in the room, until it settles onto the carpet etc. It has the same texture as baby powder, so it's a fine powder when applied.


Mary Maine <seaoceanlady@ yahoo.ca> wrote:
Thank you to the people who responded so appreciated. One question.... can I put DE on my bed in the cracks it is wooden and also on the mattress
Thank you do not know much about this product. The label says you need ventalation byut then I am told its okay to rub my cats fur with it ??????

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, jessica taylor <jesstaylor7@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: jessica taylor <jesstaylor7@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch
To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
Received: Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:29 PM

Mary,

get a blush brush a cheap one, from the drug store.  I dipped it in the DE and the brushed it on the floor. 

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Mary Maine <seaoceanlady@ yahoo.ca> wrote:
From: Mary Maine <seaoceanlady@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch
To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:30 AM

Oh my, is all I can say. I am back from vacations, my place sprayed a week before I left and no bites since I have returned. So this is not good news.
I have bought a steamer which will arrive on Friday I also  have DE now
I have no idea how to apply the DE. I don,t understand the sock method at all. Can someone explain this to me.
One other question. I work a lot of nights and my cat sleeps on my bed, she scratches alot and I was wondering could they be biting her instead of me??
Oh and their purpose. To make Molly maids out of us all so we all can get the housekeeping star of approval.  

--- On Sun, 8/24/08, deborah november <deblynntshirt@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: deborah november <deblynntshirt@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch
To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
Received: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:15 PM

"I've reared them and the 1st instar nymph can live at least 6 weeks without a first blood meal, but some will have died by that time"
Lou, is the 6 weeks lifespan the "average or "norm"..time for the unfed 1st instar to live, or is  the 6 weeks on the "highside".. .
Have you charted their lifespans?  How long can the 2nd instar live without a blood meal...on average?  I know there are variables but
I ask this based on your observations. ...Thank you...Deb
----- Original Message ----
From: Lou Sorkin <louento@yahoo. com>
To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:39:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch

I've reared them and the 1st instar nymph can live at least 6 weeks without a first blood meal, but some will have died by that time.  It is possible that they can live longer, especially if cooler.  I think Rick Cooper stated that he has had them go a few months (maybe 2, if my memory serves me right) without a first blood meal.
Lou

----- Original Message ----
From: terrina <terrinai@yahoo. com>
To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:26:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch

Thanks. I have already torn out the whole bottom of the sofa (lining
and foam cushioning). I have been dealing with this for awhile now and
I'm pretty sure I have it maintained to a minimum. We bought some
couch covers (plastic). I'm going to put them on after they spray. I
read somewhere that they can only live up to a month after the egg
period without eating. I found out today a friend from work has them
too. She has been dealing with them for a couple of months. She has
had PCO at her place every other week for 3 months and still has them.
But she is not the cleanest person if you know what I mean. There is
an article about bed bugs in the USA today just fyi. It's amazing to
me that we can build bombs to blow up countries even diminish the
whole planet but we cant come up with a solution to kill the BB eggs.
What is their purpose on Earth? lol

--- In bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com, deborah november <deblynntshirt@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Terrina...I guess you can only get the landlady to go so far...She
is , imo, making a mistake by not treating the entire
> unit because a firewall is not a "bedbug wall"...it's a fire
wall...bedbugs can flatten their bodies down and go thru the
> absolute teeniest of crevices, not to speak of their ability to
hitchhike on rodents as well as people...but, at least she is
> agreeing to something... AS for the bedbugpowder. ..I haven't seen the
video but I would be wary of anything on Utube.
> On bedbugger.com - Diatect I believe, has placed an advertisement
for their product Results...I would go with that product
> before I would order anything off of Utube ... As for the
couch...only time will tell...For some reason, thruout all
> the time I have participated on this group, I have heard of many
people trying to save their sofas and in the end, they throw them
> out because the sofa offered too good a hideout for the bugs...BUT I
have also heard of many people salvaging their sofa's..but
> it took several months and several treatments.. .One treatment is not
enough.....You should take that sofa and turn it on its side and
> rip off all of the gauze fabric to expose the underside frame and
really inspect it from underneath.. .and then have the PCO
> treat it from underneath, and then ask them about dusting some DE
powder inside of the frame..Upholstered furniture framing is
> usually made with "soft wood" ..like cheap pine..because it's a soft
wood its prone to having lots of hairline cracks, and then
> because its covered by stuffing and fabric etc, it offers lots of
hiding places, so treating it properly is very important... . people
> think that just a PCO treatment will do the trick but I believe that
with infested, upholstered furniture, it takes a good deal of effort
on the
> part of the owner , in tandem with directions from the PCO....Please
establish good communication with the PCO...your landlady should allow
you to ask them lots
> of questions, and they should give you directives for post-treatment
procedures.. ...keep us posted...good luck...deb
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: terrina <terrinai@.. .>
> To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:15:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch
>
>
> I talked to the landlady again today about the apartment units. i live
> in a ranch and am on the end side. there is one townhouse next to me.
> she said she was not going to do anything with unit next door cuz in
> between is a firewall. she is having someone come out friday to treat
> the apartment. i hope i can save the couch. Has anyone heard of the
> the site bedbugpowder. com i just watched a video on youtube about the
> product from a user?
>
> --- In bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com, deborah november <deblynntshirt@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Terrina...DE , the foodgrade type, works ok...but it has to be
> spread around evenly, not in clumps..I like
> > the product called Results from Diatect...there is a link to it on
> bedbugger.com. ..I also recommend purchasing
> > a tool to apply it with..like a small flower duster or a hand
> bellows...you have to shake the container hard to loosen it up, and
> > then dust it out.....it will kill the bedbugs but it takes time as
> it is what is referred to as a "mechanical" killer...which means that
> > the bug will be killed by getting sliced by the microscopic sharp
> edges and also dryed out..so the kill doesn't happen immediately.
> > But that doesn't mean its not very useful...you definitely should
> get some and use it... Several years ago, when I purchased it, the
> > people at Diatect were very helpful in instructing me how to use
> it...I suggest that you get lots of info about how bedbugs are
> > almost impossible to get rid of unless all surrounding units are
> treated, and print out this online info and then give it to your
> > landlady to read. She needs some "enlightening" as regards to
> bedbugs....If you give her printed info. to read, she will become
> > more aware of what to do. There are lots of articles on bedbugger
> that you can find as well as many online sites that offer
> > scientific info. on bedbugs. So I would recommend you do
> this...keep your clutter down and inspect and vacumm. Keep
> > insisting to your landlady that this problem MUST be dealt with, it
> will not end until every bedbug is killed off..in ALL apts.
> > deb
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: terrina <terrinai@ .>
> > To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:17:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch
> >
> >
> > I told the landlady and she is having someone come out this week to
> > spray. She said in the ten years she has worked here this is the 2nd
> > BB case. She wasnt too bright on the subject but tried to act like she
> > was. She told me to drench everything in alcohol and that would kill
> > the eggs. I told her it wouldnt kill the eggs and she said it would so
> > i stopped there cuz I didnt want to argue with her. I also suggested
> > to her about talking to the neighbor next to me and she said not to
> > cuz he has mental issues and would go off. So I told her if i got rid
> > of them and they were in the walls or something else of next door I
> > would keep getting them. And she then said No cuz when he comes out to
> > spray that will take care of them. OMG!!! I didn't tell her I already
> > had the apartment sprayed before and still have them. We dont get
> > along as it is and now I have this issue to deal with. At least she is
> > going to cover the first spraying treatment. How well does DE work if
> > anyone has tried it?
> >
> > --- In bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com, deborah november
<deblynntshirt@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Terrina.. I think there is some good info in the forums on
> > bedbugger.com that gives the
> > > stages of bedbugs and how they require blood to go from one stage to
> > another...Your sofa seems
> > > problematic. ..Can you phone the exterminator who you used and ask
> > them for help on how to
> > > dispose of it??? You really need to get rid of it...I don't know if
> > 5 bites means five different bugs..
> > > I think they move from one spot on the skin to another when the
> > sleeping body disturbs them..
> > > It doesn't matter ...what matters is that you have to keep fighting
> > them...Terrina. .you didn't mention anything
> > > about other units in your bldg. being potentially infested...IF you
> > live in a multi family dwelling, because if you do
> > > live in a multi family dwelling you need to have ALL surrounding
> > units inspected for bedbugs...if you get rid of them
> > > in your unit...then will eventually come back if other units are
> > infested...deb
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: terrina <terrinai@ .>
> > > To: bedbugger@yahoogrou ps.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:52:33 PM
> > > Subject: [Bedbug Support Message] Flipped Couch
> > >
> > >
> > > I flipped the couch over to do the daily maintenance. I captured 13
> > > bugs ranging in different sizes on tape and a whole nest of eggs. I
> > > swept it yesterday and found 5. It doesn't help that my couch is
navy
> > > with maroon flowers on it. They hide very well in it. The dumpster
> > > from my apartment is half a block away and the daily walk just
to dump
> > > the vacuum cup is torture lol. I steamed cleaned the carpets two
days
> > > ago. I can't keep up with them. This is exhausting! I'm going to
have
> > > to call the exterminators for another set of treatment. The last
time
> > > they came which was about April they came out 3 times every two
weeks.
> > > I thought i was rid of them for awhile but the dormant ones must of
> > > been hiding well or were busy laying eggs as fast as they could.
Does
> > > anyone know how long it takes a baby to become an adult? and how
often
> > > they feed? oh and my daughter had five bites on her. Does this
mean 5
> > > different ones bit her or can one bite more than once? She was
laying
> > > on the floor watching tv next to the couch.
> > >
> >
>





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Murphy's comes in either a ready to use formulation, or a concentrate that you dilute yourself. Check your bottle to see which you bought. I suspect you...
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No such thing as overkill...because they won't die.  We've had two exterminators out, stripped and washed everything single piece of fabric, and coated with...
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Mary...I never used the sock method but as I understand it, you fill a porous, cotton sock up with the DE..actually I am thinking that cheeseloth might work...
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Mary...Where did you get your DE from?? Does it have a brand name? Ideally I think it does need ventilation...nothing in dust form is good for one's...
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I ... What is it in the Murphy's that kills them? I am skeptical. Thanks, Pris Is your pig a speed bump? "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book at ...
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Hi, Pris! Murphy's contains citrus oil (even the regular formulation). Citrus oil contains d-limonene, which is a solvent. It is used in many "safer"...
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Mary...the 2 pts water to one part MO, like Dee said, is what I too would suggest....Did you purchase a dry vapor steamer?? I use a steamer, although I no...
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Deb, Could you tell me what kind of dry vapor steamer you purchased. I definitely would like to get one. I woke up this morning to find 3 - what look like -...
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I bought a vapor dragon, I got it from e bay it had excellent reviews. I think it is considered a dry steam although not advertised as such. I justv read the...
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I bought a vapor cleaner and not sure if it is working the same way as a dry vapor. Is there water that comes out and then you have to wipe what ever you...
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I e mailed the person who sold me my steam cleaner and it its a dry steam cleaner. I love this product and am quite impressed with it. The cost was great at...
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Mary..its very hard to say from your description exactly what you have...a "vapor" cleaner?? as opposed to a "dry vapor" steam cleaner...please google dry...
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