My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16  in May

and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all sorts  of

tests...they can't find a reason. A delay can cause cancer....is there

anything to make her start her period? They tried Provera and Premerin for one

month.... I don't want her on the hormones they recommend....

  Thanks

  Kim



  PS  she has been a vegetarian for almost 5 years....we eat fish but no other 

meats....could it be from not eating balanced?



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The menstrual period is a normal phenomenon . It should not be

disturbed from the normal cycle by pre-poning or post-poning it .

Nearly three years period holiday is too long to tackle. Classical

formulation described in post:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ayurvedaonline/message/1114



The medicine described here is not available commercially, and needs

to be made by a vaidya to specific requirement. It has been seen to

be effective for 8-12 months of holiday.



The massage on certain marma points was successful for two cases

where the holiday of 15 months was observed.

The disorder has been called premature ovarian failure and strong HRT

has sometimes caused few periods to appear but it soon becomes

ineffective.

Is there a diabetes history in siblings, parents or grand parents

from both (maternal and paternal side)? Or similar premature ovarian

failure at age less than 35?



Please click on the link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ayurvedaonline/fil\

es/articles/Dr.%20BhateFiles/



and access file "Early diagnosis of Pre-diabetic or PCOS.doc"

Check for skin patches shown in the photo album also.

Dr Bhate



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  My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be

16  in May

  and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all

sorts  of

  tests...they can't find a reason.

> Is there  a diabetes history in siblings, parents or grand parents

>from both  (maternal and paternal side)? Or similar premature ovarian

>failure at age  less than 35?

>



No one in the family has diabetes. No premature ovarian failure...Her tests

were all normal , no PCOS, normal ultrasound with a follicle and another

smaller  one 6 weeks later when they redid the ultrasound... I have been

concerned

and  all the doctors said not to worry until she was 16. Thanks for any

help..Thanks  for any help!

  Kim

she might be anaemic. try 1 tab.punarnava mandur and 2tab.raja pravartini vati 

in bd dose. seeds of radish too are helpful in usch cases



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My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16 in May

and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all sorts of

tests...they can't find a reason.

My daughter is going through the same thing, and they found that she has

large amounts of the male hormone testosterone in her system.  She has an

appt. coming up in Feb. which we had to wait five months for.  She will be

there all day going through many tests.  What it will probably boil down to

her pediatrician said will be birth control pills.  Why they put your

daughter on menopause medication is strange.  Perhaps you should go for a

second opinion?

Bonnie

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  They tried Provera and Premerin for

  one

  month.... I don't want her on the hormones they recommend....

I was not repling to it because what i know is a very small thing. Take cow's

ghee in a heavy bottom frying pan,  put about two spoons or more of grated

jaggery in it.  put off the heat when the jaggery melts and add one teaspoon

sonth (dry ginger powder) mix well then add a tea spoon of ajwain.  Let her have

this twice a day. Please do let me know if this works. 

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My daughter is going through the same thing, and they found that she has

large amounts of the male hormone testosterone in her system.

Eat lots of beets everyday.



GB



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  My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be

16  in May

  and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all

sorts  of

  tests...they can't find a reason.

If all tests your daughter has done are normal, just LET HER BE !. Don't ruin

her health with hormones or birth control pills or any other medication. I am a

doctor and I have seen many girls like this, being perfectly normal. If she is

vegetarian, this may be the cause of a PERFECTLY NORMAL sublimation of the

menses.



Read this link or better try to find the book of dr Raymond Bernard

  " Physiological Enigma of a Woman"

http://books.google.ro/books?id=a82UXcSRzMsC&dq=Physiological+Enygma+of+a+woman&\

printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=nIYgm3Nh0O&sig=gKWKM963f6h_Zj6QxMw43tU1Q1A&hl=\

ro&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result



and you will understand more about it.

Don't worry and don't put any pressure on your daughter suggesting that it might

be something wrong with her, if all tests are normal



Wishing you all the best



Andreea

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My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16  in May



and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all sorts  of



tests...they can't find a reason.

Modern science tests often come to a blind end.

All tests, hormones normal does not mean that everything is OK.



A Dr. looks at only hormones. If a woman is not menatlly ready to

conceive out of fear of added responsibility, no conception even if

hormones within normal range! A woman can conceive without menstruating, even in

menopausal years![Weed, Susun S. Menopausal Years. Ash Tree Publishing.

Woodstock, NY: 1992. 39]



How mental forces, astral forces shape the emotional and body rhythms

still remains a mystery to science, despite number of studies by

researchers. Due to the matter in the brain at birth, the difference between man

and woman is far greater, and woman is the victim of her hormonal rhythms as

shaped by external forces, as

expressed at:



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ayurvedaonline/message/4622



But the ideas expressed by dr Raymond Bernard do have substance,

somewhat similar ideas, but not taking the extreme view as he takes

are expressed at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ayurvedaonline/message/9777

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  Read this link or better try to find the book of dr Raymond Bernard

>  " Physiological Enigma of a Woman"

> http://books.google.ro/books?\

id=a82UXcSRzMsC&dq=Physiological+Enygma+of+a+woman&printsec=fro\

ntcover&source=bl&ots=nIYgm3Nh0O&sig=gKWKM963f6h_Zj6Qx\

Mw43tU1Q1A&hl=ro&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

...



don't put any pressure on your daughter suggesting that it might be

something wrong with her, if all tests are normal

Dear Mr Bate,



I am far from looking at hormones only, as you suggest. I have read carefully

all posts about the case of teenage girl and from her mother s words she seems

to be  a normal healthy vegetarian girl ( by the way, vegetarian diet, if it is

a complete diet, is perfect for a teenager), whose only " problem" seems to be

lack of menses. I have seen  cases of women who have menses every 4 or every 6

or every 12 months and they are perfectly healthy happy mothers with normal

hormone tests but on the other hand I have seen women those were also healthy

while teenagers and because they did not have menses every month they were given

hormonal treatment which ruined their health forever...



My only idea is that there are many cases when lack of menses every month can be

perfectly normal if all the other health indicators are normal (including

hormones) and besides putting pressure on a child in such a delicate

psychological period is not beneficial



With respect



Andreea



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             Modern science tests often come to a blind end.

All tests, hormones normal does not mean that everything is OK.



A Dr. looks at only hormones. If a woman is not menatlly ready to

conceive out of fear of added responsibility, no conception even if

hormones within normal range!

i do not at all think that in general hormonal treatment should be takne.

If we are herbalists why would we put chemically created or animal homrones into

our bodies?

Ashoka is very helpful in bringing on the cycle.

Dhanurasana is very useful for toning the female system.

Shatavri and triphala taken regularily would be useful as well.

Downward massage from neck to tailbone with warm sesame oil is useufl.

The meridian for the ovaries in the neck may be also blocked.

Find out if the girl in question has any kind of neck pain.





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I am far from looking at hormones only, as you suggest. I have read carefully

all posts about the case of teenage girl and from her mother s words she seems

to be a normal healthy vegetarian girl ( by the way, vegetarian diet, if it is a

complete diet, is perfect for a teenager), whose only " problem" seems to be

lack of menses.

Hari Om !



   Store, in a glass bottle ( though earthen pot is better), coriander

(dhania) decoction made by boiling 8-tablespoon dry seed powder in

sixteen cup water........ Boil it & reduce the quantity by 1/4 ( i.e. 4

cup decoction remains) for two days untouched (sugar may be added to

improve its taste). Now from the third day onward, take one cup

decoction, first thing in the morning, for four days regularly in a

month. This process must be repeated for a few months i.e. minimum four

months (on the same dates), you may find the  rays of hope. If possible,

intake of fresh coriander-leaves with veg. & pulse is beneficial. With

best wishes,



Swami Brahmavidyananda Saraswati, A Hindu Monk/Sannyasi from India





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  My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16

in May

  and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all

sorts of

  tests...they can't find a reason.

I appreciate swamis good will

 kumariasava contains  iron and  aloe juice

Is it not best for this problem.

both are safe nutrient items.

 

R.Vidhyasagar.



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Now from the third day onward, take one cup

decoction, first thing in the morning, for four days regularly in a

month. This process must be repeated for a few months i.e. minimum four

months (on the same dates), you may find the rays of hope.

Vidhyasagarji,



Hari Om !



It's true, 'Kumariasava' contains  iron and  aloe juice with a few

trace-elements, too......... it may help, somehow ( though, I am not

sure ? ), but more than a dozen teenage -girls have been benefitted with

coriander-decoction.  Secondly it's very easy ( &  easily available

coriander......... harmless, too) to prepare.  Lastly, when parents

come to Ashram and ask me to suggest a few home remedies  to bring on

periods in teenager, I suggest this home-remedy only.   After feed-back,

It has been reported  as result-oriented in 90%-cases.  With best

wishes,



Swami Brahmavidyananda Saraswati, A Hindu Sannyasi from Uttarakhand,

India

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  I appreciate swamis good will

   kumariasava contains  iron and  aloe juice

  Is it not best for this problem.

  both are safe nutrient items.

I know that coriander is given for progestrone.

> Now from the third day onward, take one cup

> decoction, first thing in the morning, for four days regularly in a

> month. This process must be repeated for a few months i.e. minimum

four

> months (on the same dates), you may find the  rays of hope.



Based on built-in natural rhythms in the body, if you choose the first

day of taking the decoction as your birth tithi (lunar phase at birth),

the effectiveness may increase. Moon has intimate connection with bio-

rhythms in women! In every lunar month, when the phase of the moon

coincides with the phase at which she was born, the chances of

menstruation/conception peak. While Indian acharyas recognized the role of moon

in the process of conception, now western researchers also believe it, e.g. see

Lunaception: A Feminine Odyssey into Fertility and Contraception by Louise

Lacey.



And south indians make a special chart based on date and time of first appearnce

of menses!



Dr Bhate

Pearl is a moon stone. It is supposed to improve the woman's

reproductive organs. Will wearing a pearl in the body help?

> Pearl is a moon stone. It is supposed to improve the woman's

> reproductive organs. Will wearing a pearl in the body help?



Ancients knew these connections well.



The marma points scattered all over the body. Wearing metal rings such

as silver, copper, gold at these places attracts astral energy and

keeps corresponding organs in good shape. While ayurveda is more

concerned with physical body, astrology is more concerned with

emotional or astral body. Its connection to moon is clearly brought out

in texts on ayurvedic astrology. Connection of sun in the chart with

causal body in reveals how astrology views human body-mind-spirit

complex in equilibrium with whole of universe.



The silver rings in the big toe helps keep volume of bleeding under

control. Tying black thread here is supposed to increase/start it

according to recent post at the list. Accupuncturist fix a grain with

adhesive tape at these points to reduce PMS symptoms, making menses

easy. The silver chain in the feet (Payal in Hindi) is tied at the

reflexology points corresponding to uterus/ovaries. A heavy silver

chain near waist is very popular in Rajastan, a state where 80% of

Indias Gold is stashed. Gold bangles in the hand also snuggle against

the points corresponding to reproductive organs defined by reflexology. And the

diamond in the nose and  in the ear lobe is supposed to keep the fertility at

peak. Notice where ear is pierced. If one looks at the corresponding

accupressure charts, you will see that the centre of earlobe where gold ring is

inserted, corresponds to the pituitary, the master gland which governs all

glands indirectly.



The oriental holistic sciences have much harmony amongst them. Discovering these

harmonies gives respects for all ancient monks. Connecting plants/gems etc to

planets and diseases through verses is a great contribution to human welfare.



The pearl bhasma/silver  is used to bring down pitta/heat quickly.

Pearl as well as silver is connected to moon in astrology, the pearl in

silver ring worn in little finger (pinky) is what is recommended to

calm down the mind, heavy bleeding etc. Moon, connected with water

principle and mind, governs the menses also, since their high and low

tides are connected with phases of the moon, moon itself governing

fluidity of rasa and rakta dhatu.



Hope this satisfies the querry.



Dr Bhate

What is ajwain?  What will this do for her?

Bonnie

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  put off the heat when the jaggery melts and add one

teaspoon sonth (dry ginger powder) mix well then add a tea spoon of ajwain.

Ajwain is bishop's seeds they have hot properties and I know that these three

things are given for scanty periods and also after delivery to clear out any

trace of unwanted stuff in the uterus.



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What is ajwain? What will this do for her?