--- In autismlist@yahoogroups.com, "remarksman" <remarksman@...>
wrote:
>
> boo hoo hoo! Abuser Ray punched me in the stomach!
>
> [uh . . . not -- can we say "Hyperbolized Manipulation Princess"?]
>
> he violated Mine Ears! jeezus would never hurt Mine Fweelings like
> mean nasty cruel Abuser Ray
>
> doesnt everyone know I'm autistic? plus God?
>
> :O)
>
> call Homeland Security! notify all Tort Attorneys! the mean man
> forced his Hostile Environment on Me!
>
> oh boo hoo hoo pore Victim Me is leaving then, never to return,
that
> will teach everyone never to contradict Me and ensure that wherever
I
> go, I Get My Way or else
>
>

Hello Ray, i'm Adam one of the students here at the school we set up
in our community.

There is an actual difference between contradicting someone and open
intentional insults in the form of name calling, and making fun of.

She didn't get upset about you contradicting her, she got upset about
the name calling, and insults you threw at her.

There is an actual and blatant difference.

And there wasn't an "ensuring wherever she goes she gets her way or
else", more like "wherever anyone may go they should all be treated
with respect and decency" which is a far cry from "ensuring wherever
she goes she gets her way or else" which you seem to be implying
means the same thing.

It doesn't.

Contradicting someone does not = name calling and tossing out insults.

And neither does

"Ensuring wherever she goes she gets her way or else" = "wherever
anyone may go they should all be treated with respect and decency"


we are just kids here but most of us can figure that out. Anyone can.


Now there has never been an "I can be an asshole as long as I hide
behind G-d." clause. If you chose to be a certain way you can't hide
behind anything.

A wrong does not = a right.

Just because you hide behind what you feel is right.

A wrong is simply a wrong.

There is no real justification to it.

So you chose to be an asshole and hiding behind G-d simply does not
justify your actions. It has been all an interesting debate we've all
been working through on this end as well.

And just because you may think someone is correct you do not resort
to name calling and insults as justification.

Here's another one:

Even if someone is wrong you don't in turn act wrong. And expect two
wrongs to make a right.

2 wrongs do not equal 1 right.

Now we have in Hebrew the word chait which is oftentimes translates
into English as sin.

A more accurate translation of the Hebrew chait is "error"
or "mistake.", "off target," and "not reaching the mark," rather than
sin.

There are other words in Hebrew which is also mistranslated as "sin,"
but which convey a more serious misdeed than an error.

One: Avon refers to willful, knowing transgression...

Two: Pesha refers to a willful transgression done specifically to
spite God.

Everyone makes unintentional errors in the walk of life. It's when we
commit willful knowing transgressions that we need to really worry
about.

Even if you consider the crab tail wrong, and even if she was, she
would still be just guilty of chait, an error, missing the mark, a
mistake...

You're response fits more of avon, a willful and knowing
transgression upon another. A more severe crime against another.

It is truly our responsibility. She never returned to this list by
her own motivations but by our bidding. She was not happy about it,
feeling she would be sent back to the wolves. She could have refused
but she trusted our judgment.

We needed extra help here; we had position for you to fill. You had
requested to help us in our journey here and we could have used the
help. We had your place set by the table you might say. But we have
certain guidelines and some rules we do go by here.

We are allowed to make mistakes, People make mistakes. We apologize,
clean up any mess, and move on with life. Although severe
ramifications can occur from our mistakes and fot that we are still
responsible for…

But willful knowing transgressions to be carried out against another
should not be tolerated and will not be. For it is harming us all.
What you do onto one, you do unto all. You do unto yourself.

We are all made to suffer it. Turning the other cheek does not imply
we will ever condone the action taken.

If the action one commits- causes harm to another- it must be
confronted... and then judged on the basis of whether it was done in
error, or an act of willful and knowing transgression.

It is our fault those of us that sent her back here. We had hoped
that you would stop repeating the mistakes you make. We had hoped you
can see yourself clearly and learn by the example you often hide
behind...

We had hoped you would help us build our school and our community and
you can do what you dreamed and what you had wanted to accomplish but
have not been able to. Your frustration blamed on others… but we have
heard you call us. We can't help you. You are the one thing that gets
in your own way and we can't work past you to help you. Because what
you do unto others is what you do onto everyone, and most of all it's
what you ultimately do unto yourself. you are what has gotten in the
way of all your efforts.

So you can continue with repeating ugly habits, in this, your list,
wondering vaguely why you can't get past the hold ups and obstacles
in your life.

Stop ignoring the reasons why. You know why.

Remember we had a place set for you here; we've always had that place
here waiting for you. Your position was here and we came to you. You
wonder why you have not moved forward. You know why.

For now we must apologize to the crab tail for it's our fault for
sending her here. We knew what might happen. We hoped it would not.

But you called out for us. You pleaded for us. You asked us to assist
you. And so we responded. But old habits are hard to break. And you
must want to break them. And we can't help you this way. Because
your actions are willful and knowing. You are willful in you're
attempt and desire to cause pain unto others. And it was too soon to
have sent her in because she was still not safe, although we told her
we are all here with her. That there is nothing she will go through
that we won't go through all of us together. Still, she felt alone.
And the habits of attacking others are too difficult for you to
break.

And as remedy, we take all that you have done to her and posthaste we
shall return it to you. That is be multiplied in hardship and in
depth. For it was our error we sent her here.

You are what keeps us from you. You are what keeps you from that
which you wish would be.

The right thing to do is for you make amends and make peace. It is
the right thing to do. But you take glory in making mischief and
offense. and we find it doubtful.

We will leave you with a special blessing.

That you only receive only that which you give unto others. nothing
more... nothing less.... that the same as what you have done unto
others, as much you will have done unto yourself.. so, as you have
received the crab tail, so shall you be received. For you received us
through her.

May you only reap what you have sown. As you have been.


And this is our very special blessing to you.

Do not call us again. Do not ask why you have the obstacles in you
life. You enforce them there.

She is not leaving. We are all leaving. Don't call us anymore. We
can't help you this way. You won't let us.

With much regrets..

Adam and the rest of the gang.





>
>
> We've been beaten down
> Feminized by the culture crowd
> No more nice guy, timid and ashamed
> We've had enough, cowboy up
> In the power of Jesus' name
> Welcome to the battle
> A million men have got your back
> Jump up in the saddle
> Grab a sword, don't be scared
> Be a man, grow a pair!
>