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#455 From: "Diana Moore" <thebowentechnique@...>
Date: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:49 pm
Subject: Moderator Needed for AFT group
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Is there anybody in this group that would like to take over as
moderator for this group?

I just don't get the time to keep an eye on it anymore.

Please either contact me directly or through the group.

With thanks
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#449 From: "kurtebert@..." <kurtebert@...>
Date: Mon Jan 9, 2006 3:04 pm
Subject: Re: AFT CD and Q-Link
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Gina:

There should be no interference between AFT CDs and any other form of energy treatment

Kutt Ebert

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Subject: Re: [attractorfieldtechnique] AFT CD and Q-Link
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My personal experience with energy devices (I use a similar, and in my opinion, better than q-link device) is that one should wear during treatments whatever one wears as a usual habit.  This keeps things consistent.  Good luck.
Gina

astudnicki <astudnicki@...> wrote:
Hello,

I am new to the group and have a question.

I recently purchased a Q-Link device and am wondering whether it
interferes with listening to an AFT CD. The Q-Link is a 'personal
energy system' that is supposed to help balance one's personal energy
field (the website is clarus.com). A representative of Q-link did not
think it would interfere but they were not familiar with AFT. I want
to make sure the Q-Link is not interfering with AFT or else I will
need to take it off when an AFT CD is playing.

Thank you,
Adam Studnicki







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#448 From: Gina Haber <kneadles@...>
Date: Sun Jan 8, 2006 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: AFT CD and Q-Link
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My personal experience with energy devices (I use a similar, and in my opinion, better than q-link device) is that one should wear during treatments whatever one wears as a usual habit.  This keeps things consistent.  Good luck.
Gina

astudnicki <astudnicki@...> wrote:
Hello,

I am new to the group and have a question.

I recently purchased a Q-Link device and am wondering whether it
interferes with listening to an AFT CD. The Q-Link is a 'personal
energy system' that is supposed to help balance one's personal energy
field (the website is clarus.com). A representative of Q-link did not
think it would interfere but they were not familiar with AFT. I want
to make sure the Q-Link is not interfering with AFT or else I will
need to take it off when an AFT CD is playing.

Thank you,
Adam Studnicki







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#447 From: "astudnicki" <astudnicki@...>
Date: Sun Jan 8, 2006 6:03 pm
Subject: AFT CD and Q-Link
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Hello,

I am new to the group and have a question.

I recently purchased a Q-Link device and am wondering whether it
interferes with listening to an AFT CD.  The Q-Link is a 'personal
energy system' that is supposed to help balance one's personal energy
field (the website is clarus.com).  A representative of Q-link did not
think it would interfere but they were not familiar with AFT.  I want
to make sure the Q-Link is not interfering with AFT or else I will
need to take it off when an AFT CD is playing.

Thank you,
Adam Studnicki

#446 From: "born43free" <born43free@...>
Date: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:51 am
Subject: Re: A List Of Succesfull Treatments
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Dear Veronica,

Nobody else around at the moment so I would like to suggest the
obvious as I have had excellent results with the Itching formula due
to allergies repeating LoC, EFC & SR at least 60 taps,(15 for UN, LL).
Trusting that this will bring some relief for your mother.

Kind Regards,
Marié







--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, Veronica V Merriman
<ResonanceShifts@t...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Nels and others,
>
> Perhaps someone can give some ideas about this.
>
> After Nels posted the file, I told my mother about the allergy protocol
> and she agreed to do it.
>
> She suffers from extremely itchy eyes due to an unknown allergen.  She
> has suffered for many years.  The only help for her is to bath her eyes
> in ice water.  She will then get relief for several hours.  She does
> have some periods on time where her eyes are mostly comfortable, but we
> have never been able to pinpoint a specific season or allergen.
>
> We did the 2 week protocol together and were very careful to get it
done
> right.  We also triple tapped through the whole protocol.
>
> She is still suffering from the itchy eyes and other symptoms.  She has
> gotten some relief from the symptom remover.  At the beginning, it was
> as effective for her as the ice water eye baths.  She also said that it
> did help her a few days ago.
>
> Can anyone give me any ideas about this?  She is 81.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Veronica
>
> Veronica Merriman
> Explore Holographic Repatterning
> www.holographic.org
> Tampa, Florida, USA
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
>

#445 From: Veronica V Merriman <ResonanceShifts@...>
Date: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:17 am
Subject: A List Of Succesfull Treatments
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Dear Nels and others,

Perhaps someone can give some ideas about this.

After Nels posted the file, I told my mother about the allergy protocol
and she agreed to do it.

She suffers from extremely itchy eyes due to an unknown allergen.  She
has suffered for many years.  The only help for her is to bath her eyes
in ice water.  She will then get relief for several hours.  She does
have some periods on time where her eyes are mostly comfortable, but we
have never been able to pinpoint a specific season or allergen.

We did the 2 week protocol together and were very careful to get it done
right.  We also triple tapped through the whole protocol.

She is still suffering from the itchy eyes and other symptoms.  She has
gotten some relief from the symptom remover.  At the beginning, it was
as effective for her as the ice water eye baths.  She also said that it
did help her a few days ago.

Can anyone give me any ideas about this?  She is 81.

Thank you,

Veronica

Veronica Merriman
Explore Holographic Repatterning
www.holographic.org
Tampa, Florida, USA




>
>

#444 From: "born43free" <born43free@...>
Date: Fri Dec 9, 2005 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: A List Of Succesfull Treatments
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Hi Nels & All,

This is my first post here and I do have a question or two:

Formulas were mentioned in earlier posts that I do not pickup in my AFT
downloaded list namely Willpower and Metabolic Accelerator. I  will be ever so
grateful if anyone who happens to have these handy will print them here, please,
that is with the LoC formula as well.

Thanking you,
kind regards,
Marié
--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have compiled a more or less complete list of treatments that I
> have received a lot of personal benefit from, as well as several I
> have surrogately used for others at a remote distance.
>
> I have uploaded them in a folder to files entitled "Nels".
>
> Some of the results have been subjective as one cannot totally
> assess them, but the indications are very positive. Many have been
> 100% successful after allopathic medicine has failed completely. The
> most recent was a devestating attack of gout in both feet that had
> me laid up for about three months last spring.
>
> Several of the conditions had been chronic for years if not most of
> my life. One being constipation and the resulting hemmorhoids as
> well as bowel problems. Another was being diagnosed with Rheumatoid
> Arthritis and having had cortisone shots as I could not raise arm
> above my shoulder.
>
> My first treatment was for a shoulder injury from a skiing accident
> and it is much the same as what Dr. Ebert has written about.
>
> One of my favorites is the Allergy series which has also been a
> chronic condition in my past.
>
> The one for eyesight in yellow is a work in progress as is the
> cataracts. For a brief while I was able to go without glasses for
> brief periods but I think the glasses themselves interfered with the
> results when shifting back and forth.
>
> I have used the Basic Tx CD for most of the treatments, although I
> often just treat with the SR nowadays. It seems I have used the CD
> for long enough that a lot of the lower energy fields are no longer
> as deeply ingrained as they were. I have surrendered a lot of my
> previously self-limiting beliefs to God.
>
> Usually I double tap all the points and sometimes triple tap if the
> condition is severe.
>
> This list is presented only as a sharing of what has worked for me
> and I make special claims as to its being a panacea. It is worth a
> try in my view and is always my first responce choice. If I cannot
> find a formula that fits or if I am away from my manual I then
> choose EFT often just performing the tapping using internal
> visualization.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nels
>

#443 From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
Date: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:10 pm
Subject: A List Of Succesfull Treatments
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Hi All,

I have compiled a more or less complete list of treatments that I
have received a lot of personal benefit from, as well as several I
have surrogately used for others at a remote distance.

I have uploaded them in a folder to files entitled "Nels".

Some of the results have been subjective as one cannot totally
assess them, but the indications are very positive. Many have been
100% successful after allopathic medicine has failed completely. The
most recent was a devestating attack of gout in both feet that had
me laid up for about three months last spring.

Several of the conditions had been chronic for years if not most of
my life. One being constipation and the resulting hemmorhoids as
well as bowel problems. Another was being diagnosed with Rheumatoid
Arthritis and having had cortisone shots as I could not raise arm
above my shoulder.

My first treatment was for a shoulder injury from a skiing accident
and it is much the same as what Dr. Ebert has written about.

One of my favorites is the Allergy series which has also been a
chronic condition in my past.

The one for eyesight in yellow is a work in progress as is the
cataracts. For a brief while I was able to go without glasses for
brief periods but I think the glasses themselves interfered with the
results when shifting back and forth.

I have used the Basic Tx CD for most of the treatments, although I
often just treat with the SR nowadays. It seems I have used the CD
for long enough that a lot of the lower energy fields are no longer
as deeply ingrained as they were. I have surrendered a lot of my
previously self-limiting beliefs to God.

Usually I double tap all the points and sometimes triple tap if the
condition is severe.

This list is presented only as a sharing of what has worked for me
and I make special claims as to its being a panacea. It is worth a
try in my view and is always my first responce choice. If I cannot
find a formula that fits or if I am away from my manual I then
choose EFT often just performing the tapping using internal
visualization.

Sincerely,

Nels

#442 From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: AFT for weight loss
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Dear Janet,

Any recent progress report?

Also I am wondering if the formulas are available any longer? They
are no longer in the file section and I lost mine when my old
computer went down the tubes:-)

Thanks, Nels

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moore"
<thebowentechnique@y...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Kurt for the files.
>
> I look forward to using them.
>
> I will update group every now and then about how I am going.
>
> I noticed the Toxin Sensitivity (Foods) formula.  My husband will
be
> trying this as he has terrible reactions to specific foods
especially
> sulphur dioxide which we all know most of our food we eat these
days
> is smothered in the stuff.
>
> I really enjoyed reading your story on how AFT developed.
Wonderful.
>
> You truly are blessed and we are so lucky to have you.
>
> Kind regards,
> Diana
>

#441 From: "Robert Schwarz" <doctorbob1000@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:16 am
Subject: Re: Re: Cataract Formulas
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Great. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Nels
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: [attractorfieldtechnique] Re: Cataract Formulas

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Schwarz"
<doctorbob1000@m...> wrote:
>
> The advanced formulas will be out in an E-book at some point. 
there is a ton of work involved.  I am not sure when they will  be
out. What you have does come from them/   The pre formulas are the
LOCSs.  The expanded formulas are not correct.  They are missing the
new points.  Ignore them for now.
>
> Bob

Dr. Bob,

Thanks, I will continue on with the formula without the expanded
sections. I seem to already be noticing an improvement using the
jumbled up version!

Formulas for: Eye Sight-Cataracts
 Best applied: Anytime
 Apply all formulas AS NEEDED, minimally once a day.
 Pre Formula
 LF SH LF DT FH V OE EB UE C
 DT LF MF IF SH TH T C
 IF LF SH TH FH DT AE TE LL UN C

 Formula for: Eye Sight-Cataracts
 
 OE EB OE UE OE EB UE OR V FH C
 V OE EB OE UE C SN IF LF OE T C
 OE EB OE UE C
 UE V FH C OE EB OE V C
 OR DT EB V SN
 OE SN UE OE V FH UN LL


I am considering ordering the Weight Loss, Cancer, Respiratory, and
Eye-sight CD's - all of which reflect ongoing family conditions. Now
I am wondering if these CD's will become obsolete once the new
expanded formulas are completed? I already have some obsolete CD's
from the previous upgrading to triple tapping and each time there is
an upgrade one has to return the old ones and pay $25 USD for the
upgrades.

Any reccommendations as to what would be the most effective choices
if you were me? I have manually tapped the Cancer formula for four
people previously and it has had total success in three of the cases
and in the forth the Cancer went into remission for over a year and
now has manifested in a different area of the body. Manually triple
tapping the Cancer formulas is a very exhausting precedure for even
a healthy person, so I am considering the CD may be of great help.

Pretty much the same for the weight loss formulas. They take a lot
of willpower to maintain, and often this is not the strong suit of a
person who is overweight:-)

Sincerely, Nels






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#440 From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
Date: Wed Nov 9, 2005 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: Cataract Formulas
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--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Schwarz"
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> The advanced formulas will be out in an E-book at some point.
there is a ton of work involved.  I am not sure when they will  be
out. What you have does come from them/   The pre formulas are the
LOCSs.  The expanded formulas are not correct.  They are missing the
new points.  Ignore them for now.
>
> Bob

Dr. Bob,

Thanks, I will continue on with the formula without the expanded
sections. I seem to already be noticing an improvement using the
jumbled up version!

Formulas for: Eye Sight-Cataracts
  Best applied: Anytime
  Apply all formulas AS NEEDED, minimally once a day.
  Pre Formula
  LF SH LF DT FH V OE EB UE C
  DT LF MF IF SH TH T C
  IF LF SH TH FH DT AE TE LL UN C

  Formula for: Eye Sight-Cataracts

  OE EB OE UE OE EB UE OR V FH C
  V OE EB OE UE C SN IF LF OE T C
  OE EB OE UE C
  UE V FH C OE EB OE V C
  OR DT EB V SN
  OE SN UE OE V FH UN LL


I am considering ordering the Weight Loss, Cancer, Respiratory, and
Eye-sight CD's - all of which reflect ongoing family conditions. Now
I am wondering if these CD's will become obsolete once the new
expanded formulas are completed? I already have some obsolete CD's
from the previous upgrading to triple tapping and each time there is
an upgrade one has to return the old ones and pay $25 USD for the
upgrades.

Any reccommendations as to what would be the most effective choices
if you were me? I have manually tapped the Cancer formula for four
people previously and it has had total success in three of the cases
and in the forth the Cancer went into remission for over a year and
now has manifested in a different area of the body. Manually triple
tapping the Cancer formulas is a very exhausting precedure for even
a healthy person, so I am considering the CD may be of great help.

Pretty much the same for the weight loss formulas. They take a lot
of willpower to maintain, and often this is not the strong suit of a
person who is overweight:-)

Sincerely, Nels

#439 From: "Robert Schwarz" <doctorbob1000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 9, 2005 2:11 am
Subject: Re: Re: Cataract Formulas
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The advanced formulas will be out in an E-book at some point.  there is a ton of work involved.  I am not sure when they will  be out. What you have does come from them/   The pre formulas are the LOCSs.  The expanded formulas are not correct.  They are missing the new points.  Ignore them for now.
 
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Nels
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:29 PM
Subject: [attractorfieldtechnique] Re: Cataract Formulas

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Schwarz"
<doctorbob1000@m...> wrote:
>   They are separate formulas.  You do them one after the other. You
must be using an advanced sheet.  The expanded formulas contain
additional points not used on the basic formulary that is on the web. 
>
Dr. Bob,

Thanks for the clarification.

Below are the formulas as I received them, passed along by another
member. I was not aware that there are advanced sheets so this
confused me as it seemed rather different from what I am used to.

Do these formulas already include the LoC tapping protocols or must
one tap them as well or play the Basic Tx CD first?

Any time frame as to when these advanced sheets will be made
available, or are you too swamped to project this? At present there is
no cataract formula at all on the website that I am aware of.

Formulas for: Eye Sight-Cataracts
 Best applied: Anytime
 Apply all formulas AS NEEDED, minimally once a day.
 Pre Formula
 LF SH LF DT FH V OE EB UE C
 DT LF MF IF SH TH T C
 IF LF SH TH FH DT AE TE LL UN C

 Formula for: Eye Sight-Cataracts
 
 OE EB OE UE OE EB UE OR V FH C
 V OE EB OE UE C SN IF LF OE T C
 OE EB OE UE C
 UE V FH C OE EB OE V C
 OR DT EB V SN
 OE SN UE OE V FH UN LL
 
 Formulas for: Eye Sight-Cataracts expanded
 Best applied: Anytime
 Apply all formulas AS NEEDED, minimally once a day.
 Pre Formula
 IF LF SH TH FH
 DT AE TE LL UN C
 T UE SN FH
 
 Formula for: Eye Sight-Cataracts expanded
 SH BH T LF C
 T OR UE UE OE EB C


Sincerely,

Nels





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#438 From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
Date: Tue Nov 8, 2005 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Cataract Formulas
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--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Schwarz"
<doctorbob1000@m...> wrote:
>   They are separate formulas.  You do them one after the other. You
must be using an advanced sheet.  The expanded formulas contain
additional points not used on the basic formulary that is on the web.
>
Dr. Bob,

Thanks for the clarification.

Below are the formulas as I received them, passed along by another
member. I was not aware that there are advanced sheets so this
confused me as it seemed rather different from what I am used to.

Do these formulas already include the LoC tapping protocols or must
one tap them as well or play the Basic Tx CD first?

Any time frame as to when these advanced sheets will be made
available, or are you too swamped to project this? At present there is
no cataract formula at all on the website that I am aware of.

Formulas for: Eye Sight-Cataracts
  Best applied: Anytime
  Apply all formulas AS NEEDED, minimally once a day.
  Pre Formula
  LF SH LF DT FH V OE EB UE C
  DT LF MF IF SH TH T C
  IF LF SH TH FH DT AE TE LL UN C

  Formula for: Eye Sight-Cataracts

  OE EB OE UE OE EB UE OR V FH C
  V OE EB OE UE C SN IF LF OE T C
  OE EB OE UE C
  UE V FH C OE EB OE V C
  OR DT EB V SN
  OE SN UE OE V FH UN LL

  Formulas for: Eye Sight-Cataracts expanded
  Best applied: Anytime
  Apply all formulas AS NEEDED, minimally once a day.
  Pre Formula
  IF LF SH TH FH
  DT AE TE LL UN C
  T UE SN FH

  Formula for: Eye Sight-Cataracts expanded
  SH BH T LF C
  T OR UE UE OE EB C


Sincerely,

Nels

#437 From: "Robert Schwarz" <doctorbob1000@...>
Date: Tue Nov 8, 2005 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: Cataract Formulas
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From: Nels
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: [attractorfieldtechnique] Cataract Formulas

Hi Folks,

I have cataracts and would be interested in applying AFT for them,
before opting for surgery.

I am a bit confused on how the formulas are to be used for best
results.

From what I understand there are two sets of formulae - the first
called the "Eye Sight - Cataracts", and second called "Eye Sight -
Cataracts expanded."

Does one do the first formula followed by  the expanded formula or
does one just add the expanded lines to the first formula and do it
all as one? Or does one do the second fromula if the cataracts have
expanded as opposed to just starting?
They are separate formulas.  You do them one after the other. You must be using an advanced sheet.  The expanded formulas contain additional points not used on the basic formulary that is on the web. 

From what I understand the formulas can be applied any time, unlike
some others that must be applied on a strict schedule and one does
them until the eyes clear themselves with not fixed number of days
or weeks?
 
COrrect

Also some of the formula lines do not end with a C as seems to
normally be the protocol. Is this correct or was there an oversight
when the formula was passed along to the folks in the field?
 
NO it is not an oversight.  The formulas that do not end in C are a different kind of formula.  There are several different levels of formula.  Each level has a different energetic pathway through the "sefriot" of the tree of life.  Each has slightly different action.   It is a bit too much to go into at the moment.  The bottom line is the more you do the better.  Of course you want to look at what is going on at the fear level of consciousness that is providing the context for this disorder.   I hope this helps
 
Namaste,
 
Bob Schwarz
Co Developer of AFT
 
 

Sincerely, Nels





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#436 From: Lawrence Sobel <larry_sobel@...>
Date: Mon Nov 7, 2005 12:29 am
Subject: Re: Cataract Formulas
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Nels:

Well put.

Perhaps, Dr. Ebert will respond to this post.

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--- Nels <arvent@...> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I have cataracts and would be interested in applying AFT for them,
> before opting for surgery.
>
> I am a bit confused on how the formulas are to be used for best
> results.
>
> From what I understand there are two sets of formulae - the first
> called the "Eye Sight - Cataracts", and second called "Eye Sight -
> Cataracts expanded."
>
> Does one do the first formula followed by  the expanded formula or
> does one just add the expanded lines to the first formula and do it
> all as one? Or does one do the second fromula if the cataracts have
> expanded as opposed to just starting?
>
> From what I understand the formulas can be applied any time, unlike
> some others that must be applied on a strict schedule and one does
> them until the eyes clear themselves with not fixed number of days
> or weeks?
>
> Also some of the formula lines do not end with a C as seems to
> normally be the protocol. Is this correct or was there an oversight
> when the formula was passed along to the folks in the field?
>
> Sincerely, Nels
>
>
>
>




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#435 From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
Date: Mon Nov 7, 2005 12:17 am
Subject: Cataract Formulas
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Hi Folks,

I have cataracts and would be interested in applying AFT for them,
before opting for surgery.

I am a bit confused on how the formulas are to be used for best
results.

From what I understand there are two sets of formulae - the first
called the "Eye Sight - Cataracts", and second called "Eye Sight -
Cataracts expanded."

Does one do the first formula followed by  the expanded formula or
does one just add the expanded lines to the first formula and do it
all as one? Or does one do the second fromula if the cataracts have
expanded as opposed to just starting?

From what I understand the formulas can be applied any time, unlike
some others that must be applied on a strict schedule and one does
them until the eyes clear themselves with not fixed number of days
or weeks?

Also some of the formula lines do not end with a C as seems to
normally be the protocol. Is this correct or was there an oversight
when the formula was passed along to the folks in the field?

Sincerely, Nels

#432 From: "lamiaaarabi" <lamiaaarabi@...>
Date: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:16 pm
Subject: formula for CFS requested from the netherlands
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Dear kurt,
I have sent you two messages requesting the formula for CFS maar I
didn't get any answer. Please, if I have to do something in return for
that I'm ready to do. I have this sickness since 7 years and I still
have some symtoms of this disease that deprives me from leading a
normal life.
I'm very gratefull to you and my best regards from holland.
Leila

#431 From: "kurtebert2003" <kurtebert@...>
Date: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: How Can you activate Human Growth Hormone thru AFT ?
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Clothnneedle & Other Group members:

I have not had an opportunity to check in with this group for some time.
I see that some interesting topics have arisen in my absence.

As for stimulating the human growth hormone, and promoting localized
bone growth, it is not possible using AFT.  The reading that I get is
that turning on the growth hormone leads to Acromegaly, and
reactivating bone growth points has similar unwanted side effects.
Fortunately All-That-Is does not provide the means for harming
ourselves.

There is a discussion concerning the value of the CDs. Let me make it
quite clear that I see the CDs as enormously valuable, but somewhat of
a double edged sword. It all depends on one's perspective or goal.

The CDs effectively change the energy fields that control and regulate
the biologic systems that comprise our physical being. We have
conducted studies on Humans, Mice, Hogs, Dogs, Cats, and Chickens. The
tones work.

That is part of the problem. The tones do the work. It's like taking a
pill.  It requires no real commitment to understanding why the problem
has become manifest in order to overcome the problem. This will sound a
little strange, but I see illness & suffering of all sorts an act of
mercy on the Universes' part, a wake up call telling us to pay
attention, to learn what is really wrong. If we miss the opportunity
the universe is patient, and will repeat the message, sometimes in
different forms. Until we deal with the energy at the source of the
problem we're stuck in a loop, our own "Ground Hog Day". Our thoughts
and their results are never far apart.

Tapping is a form of commitment, to one's self. It requires time,
effort, self discipline and responsibility. A pill requires swallowing,
a CD, if played continuously, requires less effort than a pill.

My problem, the source of my own conflict with the CDs, is that I have
two goals in mind for AFT: 1) To help awaken the world, to empower each
person with the knowledge that their health and happiness are something
that they can control, and 2) to help heal the world, reduce suffering,
disease, and upset of all sorts.

In an ideal world, the first goal would be addressed first, and the
second would occur as a natural consequence. It is not an ideal world.
It is difficult for people take responsibility for themselves, their
health, and their well-being. People are less interested in finding out
why they have a problem than in getting rid of the problem.  People
want to stop suffering NOW. This is understandable. While my preference
would be for people to awaken first, I must recognize the world is the
way that it is. My conflict is my conflict alone. I have come to the
point of realizing that my first goal is a really long term project (it
has taken thousands of years so far, and better men than I am have been
working at it!) and that I have more than enough on my plate trying to
accomplish something of my second goal.
Kurt Ebert

#430 From: Clothnneedle <clothnneedle@...>
Date: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: How Can you activate Human Growth Hormone thru AFT ?
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I would be very intersted in knowing this also.
 
Thank you

bo999ca <AraKara@...> wrote:

Please provide a formula .

Also looking for a formula unfuse bones for Height Growth .


Cheers

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#429 From: "bo999ca" <AraKara@...>
Date: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:25 pm
Subject: How Can you activate Human Growth Hormone thru AFT ?
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Please provide a formula .

Also looking for a formula unfuse bones for Height Growth .


Cheers

Robert

#426 From: "Solvey" <solvey@...>
Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005 2:04 am
Subject: Re: Hairloss treatment with AFT
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Hi : hair loss is related to thyroid disfunction. Why don't you check it?
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----- Original Message -----
From: jan_knegt
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:19 PM
Subject: [attractorfieldtechnique] Hairloss treatment with AFT

Dear everyone,

Thank You all for Your help, understanding and advises.
I think most of You believe I am a female because of my name but Jan
is a very common name here in The Netherlands for a man. Jan
translated to English is John.
I tried EFT to overcome some fears but I had no the positive results I
hoped for.
I almost accepted that I became bold but I still like to get my hair
back. For me it is also a kind of showing to myself (and others) that
things really can change for the better and that nothing is hopeless.
I also feel myself with hair more attractive than without hair.
I like to use the customs made acutone CD for treating baldness
instead of tapping because for me as a RN specialized in paediatric
oncology it is very difficult to do the tapping sequences as it is
supposed to do (because of my different shifts and very demanding job).
I hope to receive a message from Kurt Ebert soon and I want to like to
order this CD by email.
Thank You again all for Your help!!!
Kind regards,
Jan Knegt




#425 From: "jan_knegt" <jm.knegt@...>
Date: Mon Aug 1, 2005 3:19 pm
Subject: Hairloss treatment with AFT
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Dear everyone,

Thank You all for Your help, understanding and advises.
I think most of You believe I am a female because of my name but Jan
is a very common name here in The Netherlands for a man. Jan
translated to English is John.
I tried EFT to overcome some fears but I had no the positive results I
hoped for.
I almost accepted that I became bold but I still like to get my hair
back. For me it is also a kind of showing to myself (and others) that
things really can change for the better and that nothing is hopeless.
I also feel myself with hair more attractive than without hair.
I like to use the customs made acutone CD for treating baldness
instead of tapping because for me as a RN specialized in paediatric
oncology it is very difficult to do the tapping sequences as it is
supposed to do (because of my different shifts and very demanding job).
I hope to receive a message from Kurt Ebert soon and I want to like to
order this CD by email.
Thank You again all for Your help!!!
Kind regards,
Jan Knegt

#424 From: "Robert Schwarz" <doctorbob1000@...>
Date: Mon Aug 1, 2005 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hair loss formula?
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Nels is correct.  The baldness formula is the appropriate formula for hair loss.  You cantap it or you can order a CD form the foundation.  As for the emotional sufferring, you can also use the affirmation track on the basic disc.  You can forgive self for being fearful, etc.  However Baldness is a 125 life view of disappointment.  Forgive yourself for believing life is disappointing.  And any variations on that theme.  You might want to think about when your hair loss started or accelerated and look for any events about which you  were upset or disappointed.  Follow the belief change instructions for that event.  I hope this helps..
 
Namaste
 
Bob Schwarz
Co developer of AFT
----- Original Message -----
From: Nels
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:57 AM
Subject: [attractorfieldtechnique] Re: Hair loss formula?

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "jan_knegt"
<jm.knegt@t...> wrote:
> I suffer from hair loss which cause me some emotional suffering.
> I use the Basic Treatment CDs 1 and 2 for over 6 months now and I am
> wondering if there is a hair loss formula. If so I like that one on
a
> CD.
> Thank You for answering my question.
>
> Jan Knegt, Holland

Hi Jan,

Sorry, I have been offline for some time. Was your copy of the CD2 the
correct one or was it the older version? I have one with the same
labelling as you mentioned and it was supposed to be the latest
technology.

I find that the Baldness formula on page 13 of the manual works fine
for me. I applied it and the wrinkles formula twice daily for three
moths and knew them both off by heart. Just a few days ago a neighbour
who was younger asked me how I managed to hold onto my hair so well:-)

The "emotional suffering" you mention can also be treated with EFT.
The more one "worries" about losing one's hair or getting wrinkles the
more one adds to the condition. "Worry" is a very low attractor field
closely related to fear at 100.

Dr. Hawkins talks about "Serenity" in his latest radio show, archived
at:

http://beyondtheordinary.net/drhawkins.shtml

Becoming more serene is a great antidote to worry and fear. And maybe
keeping one's hair:-)

I believe that the more one can understand what Dr. Hawkins teaches
the more capable and understanding one will be with AFT. They are tied
closely together.

Perhaps someone from the foundation will comment on this?

Blessings, Nels







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#423 From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
Date: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Hair loss formula?
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--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "jan_knegt"
<jm.knegt@t...> wrote:
> I suffer from hair loss which cause me some emotional suffering.
> I use the Basic Treatment CDs 1 and 2 for over 6 months now and I am
> wondering if there is a hair loss formula. If so I like that one on
a
> CD.
> Thank You for answering my question.
>
> Jan Knegt, Holland

Hi Jan,

Sorry, I have been offline for some time. Was your copy of the CD2 the
correct one or was it the older version? I have one with the same
labelling as you mentioned and it was supposed to be the latest
technology.

I find that the Baldness formula on page 13 of the manual works fine
for me. I applied it and the wrinkles formula twice daily for three
moths and knew them both off by heart. Just a few days ago a neighbour
who was younger asked me how I managed to hold onto my hair so well:-)

The "emotional suffering" you mention can also be treated with EFT.
The more one "worries" about losing one's hair or getting wrinkles the
more one adds to the condition. "Worry" is a very low attractor field
closely related to fear at 100.

Dr. Hawkins talks about "Serenity" in his latest radio show, archived
at:

http://beyondtheordinary.net/drhawkins.shtml

Becoming more serene is a great antidote to worry and fear. And maybe
keeping one's hair:-)

I believe that the more one can understand what Dr. Hawkins teaches
the more capable and understanding one will be with AFT. They are tied
closely together.

Perhaps someone from the foundation will comment on this?

Blessings, Nels

#422 From: Gina Haber <kneadles@...>
Date: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:07 am
Subject: Re: Hair loss formula?
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Hi, Jan,
I know of a product that works really well with hair loss from Arbonne, one of those natural beauty product companies.  It works by blocking the hair from falling out!  I hear it's good.  You could write to Betty Futter at bettyfutter@... for more info.  tell her Gina from RBN recommended her.  Good luck
Gina

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I suffer from hair loss which cause me some emotional suffering.
I use the Basic Treatment CDs 1 and 2 for over 6 months now and I am
wondering if there is a hair loss formula. If so I like that one on a
CD.
Thank You for answering my question.

Jan Knegt, Holland





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#421 From: "jan_knegt" <jm.knegt@...>
Date: Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:16 pm
Subject: Hair loss formula?
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I suffer from hair loss which cause me some emotional suffering.
I use the Basic Treatment CDs 1 and 2 for over 6 months now and I am
wondering if there is a hair loss formula. If so I like that one on a
CD.
Thank You for answering my question.

Jan Knegt, Holland

#420 From: "Diana Moore" <thebowentechnique@...>
Date: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:16 am
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Nels..We would love to here your results!

All the best
Diana

> I have experienced some phenomenal results using AFT. I know that I
> should submit my stories but the link doesn't seem to work for me.
>
> Blessings, Nels

#419 From: "Diana Moore" <thebowentechnique@...>
Date: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:14 am
Subject: Welcome to all of our new members
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Hi there..

Sorry I have been so quiet lately, but glad to see that Nels is active
here and being helpful.  Thanks Nel.

Welcome to all of the new members.  Great to see there are so many
people joining recently.

Please feel free to ask questions etc..

All the best
Diana Moore

#414 From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
Date: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:02 am
Subject: Re: New Members
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--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Salina Amey"
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> Hi Nels,
>
> Thanks for the warm welcome.  I did read messages 63 and 93, as well
> as several of Dr. Ebert's articles on his website.  As a result, I
am
> currently in information overload, but some of this is familiar
> information.
>
Hi Salina,

Yes, I can well imagine what you mean by information overload. Reading
what Dr. Ebert has written both here and on the tree-of-life site is
something similar to reading Dr. Hawkins. Every time you review it
your knowledge broadens.

I have been thinking about you all day as I have some idea of what
your are going through and I was wondering if there was anything I
might share that could be of help and not sure if I might post it here
or the the other group we post at. I guess I will respond to your
earlier one there OK? I'm very beat right now so will probably do it
in the morning. I just got all my tapping done and my prayers are with
you.

Blessings, Nels

#413 From: "Salina Amey" <salina_amey@...>
Date: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:30 am
Subject: Re: New Members
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Hi Nels,

Thanks for the warm welcome.  I did read messages 63 and 93, as well
as several of Dr. Ebert's articles on his website.  As a result, I am
currently in information overload, but some of this is familiar
information.

As far as "The ship seems to be deserted right now" - well, that
seems to have changed already.

Salina

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...>
wrote:
> Hi Salina and Linda!
>
> Welcome aboard. The ship seems to be deserted right now:-(
>
> If you would like some background information about AFT I
reccommend
> you read messages 63 and 93 as well as any others that may have Dr.
> Ebert as the poster. Dr. Shwartze is also a member of the
foundation.
>
> And post any questions you may have and see if we can get things
> moving a bit here.
>
> You may perhaps have some questions regarding a the "mechanics" of
> the technique and some of the answers may aleady be in other
> postings.
>
> You really need the diagram of the treatment location points right
> infront of you for awhile and I have one in a plastic document
> protector with me all the time. I usually tap lightly with two
> fingers as that covers a wider area and the Thymus and Vertex I
> actually use all four fingers. The DT point I use my index and
> middle finger to tap the TE and AE point simultaneously.
>
> The C - Collar bone point is usually an indicator of the end of a
> formula so if you get mixed up just tap the C point and start over
> at the beginning of that formula. If you lose count just keep
> tapping to the end. It will still help.
>
> Anybody else want to chime in here?
>
> Hugs, Nels

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