Since I have some computer time available to me I would like "stir up a bit of energy here" and make a few observations and welcome some discussion regarding various forms of energy work.

It is my impression that there are several members of this group who are practicing various forms of energy work and may have joined this group in order to find out more about what AFT has to offer that may be of value to their current work. And also those interested in finding out more details about what is offered on Kurt's website:

 http://www.the-tree-of-life.com/

I would like to say up front that what is available at the website is just the tip of the iceberg of the true potential of AFT. After taking the three levels of training in July 2006 I can say that with total confidence as well as being amazed at its potential.

I also would like to inform members that Dr. Ebert is so busy with his work developing the techniques that he has very little time to keep people who may be interested, informed and aware of the continual development. This is both a concern and a reality for him is my observation.

Many members I am sure are already familiar with EFT as well as the various "cousins" that Gary Craig refers to. Although it seems similar to EFT in actual practice it approaches and addresses our self-limiting thought structures in more depth and with more precision. This is not meant to "knock" EFT or any other energy modality in any way. It simply takes a more in depth approach, based on the research and teachings of Dr. David Hawkins in a large degree as well as "A Course in Miracles."

Two things that separate it from all other energy medicine techniques is first,  the use of Dr, Hawkins methods of kinesiological muscle testing and secondly in employing his "Map of Consciousness"  as a reference point for uncovering subconscious thought structures that can rob us all of vital life energy.

An overview of the background scientific evidence to support the method is available at the website at the link "related articles".  This takes some studying to understand and I can vouch for that personally having studied it for about three years myself just to get a handle on it.

At the same time one can just follow the instructions as posted on the website without knowing anything and still experience positive results. But like I said that is just the tip of the iceberg.

I have had several enquiries from folks familiar with EFT making the observation that AFT is "just too complicated so why bother with it when I already know EFT?" I would like to say that as far as I am aware, every AFT practitioner is very familiar with EFT and many other similar modalities and decided AFT was worth the extra effort to learn.

I therefore welcome any enquiries, comments or questions and if I can't answer them I will push the folks who can to respond.

So feel free to fire away!

Blessings,

Nels

Hi Jo-Anne,

I very much appreciate your assessments and agree with them. I noticed the Darlene Hay "connection" and perusing your website confirmed that. More responses below.

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Jo-Anne Eadie" <joanne@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Nels: The emotion behind chapped lips is frustration. (the
> person is wanting to share more but cannot because they think they
> may say the wrong thing)

Hey that's me all the way (Sorry!)

The physical behind chapped lips is
> drinking more water and perhaps Omega 3's essential fatty acids.

I agree that this is a factor for a lot of people who have dry skin and I recommend Udo's 3-6-9 Oil blend. A canuck connection as well eh?
>
> The emotion behind skin problems is anxiety, fear and old buried gunk
> and the physical is liver, which fits the emotional. I had brown
> age spots which have largely disappeared because of doing regular
> liver cleanses.

What type of cleanse would that be? Did you use EFT in conjucntion with the cleanse?
>
> The emotion behind bladder problems is anxiety and holding on to old
> ideas. Fear of letting go and being "pissed off"

As I mentioned to Kurt, I Googled the condition which I guess is diagnosed as "Pelvic Organ Prolapse". Seems fairly serious from looking at this link.

http://www.womenshealthlondon.org.uk/leaflets/prolapse/prolapse.html

Any suggested treatment at an energy level? Or physical level for that matter?
>
> Hope this helps a little
>
> Jo-Anne Eadie
> www.poweroffreedom.ca
>

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "kurtebert@..."
<kurtebert@...> wrote:
>
> Nels:
> Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Sorry but there are no
formulas for the conditions that you asked about.
> How are you doing? Are you settled in your new home? I am looking
forward to hearing from you.
> Kurt

Hi Kurt,

Are you back from Europe yet - or are you using your Blackberry to
check in?

I am presently back in my old place in Saskatchewan getting it ready
to sell - and have no internet or phone connections. My cell doesn't
even connect out here in the boonies. Is it ever great!

I Googled the bladder condition and I hope it is something you can
address when you get time.

In the meantime I am reviewing all the AFT material and practicing
what I understand to the best of my ability. (Old guy who keeps
forgetting to apply the memory formula:-)

I am continually amazed at how one can apply Dr. Hawkins Map of
Consciousness to help others better understand their situations and
ways to reframe their self-limiting beliefs.

One thing I would like you to consider in that regard and that is
having the Basic Treatment CD include the 315 LoC accutones since
that is the level of "Willingness". People seem to struggle with
getting to that level - or is it just my impression?

Blessings everyone,

Nels

Hi Nels:  The emotion behind chapped lips is frustration.  (the
person is wanting to share more but cannot because they think they
may say the wrong thing)  The physical behind chapped lips is
drinking more water and perhaps Omega 3's essential fatty acids.

The emotion behind skin problems is anxiety, fear and old buried gunk
and the physical is liver, which fits the emotional.  I had brown
age spots which have largely disappeared because of doing regular
liver cleanses.

The emotion behind bladder problems is anxiety and holding on to old
ideas.  Fear of letting go and being "pissed off"

Hope this helps a little

Jo-Anne Eadie
www.poweroffreedom.ca


> Nels:
> Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Sorry but there are no
formulas for the conditions that you asked about.
> How are you doing? Are you settled in your new home? I am looking
forward to hearing from you.
> Kurt
> -- "Nels" <arvent@...> wrote:

>
> --- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to know if there are formulas for the following:
> >
> > Age spots
> > Chapped lips
> > Dropped bladder
> >
> > Thanks, Nels
> >
>

Nels:

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Sorry but there are no formulas for the conditions that you asked about.

How are you doing? Are you settled in your new home? I am looking forward to hearing from you.

Kurt 
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--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...>
wrote:
>
> I would like to know if there are formulas for the following:
>
> Age spots
> Chapped lips
> Dropped bladder
>
> Thanks, Nels
>

I would like to know if there are formulas for the following:

Age spots
Chapped lips
Dropped bladder

Thanks, Nels

Hi Syahmi.


> I found out my "madness" level had depleted to a more moderate level.
> Still, a lot more must being done......

Thanks for letting us know about your experience- very interesting!

Many formulas do require repetition so keep going. The CP formula
needs two applications a week apart so in effect you are only halfway
through that one.


I'm not aware of a specific formula for panic attacks - perhaps
because the triggers can be different for different people.

Doing the LoC formulas for level 100 sounds like a good thing to try.
In addition, think about if there is any particular thing which
usually triggers the attacks.
If there is any social element (e.g. fear of social embarrassment)
then try the LoC 20 formulas too which address beliefs around
humiliation etc.


Regards,
Mary


_______________________________________________________________________
_

Mary L.R. Jones BSc MSc
Personal Coach, EFT Advanced Practitioner and Trainer, NLP
Practitioner, AFT Practitioner
www.thefuturestartsnow.com
Author of "The EFT Coach": www.eftcoach.com

okay... here what I done using AFT for the last few days.

-schizophrenia
-physchosis
-cerebral palsy
-mental sharpening

I found out my "madness" level had depleted to a more moderate level.
Still, a lot more must being done. (Ussually, I blurted out on
occasions, and being kinda embarassed about it. I think I am more in
control now). I tried EFT b4 on this issues with little success. Maybe
I didnt got the aspects right.

As for cerebral palsy, I didnt noticed any progress, physically but I
noticed a shift in my mind. But I still dont know what that "shift"
stands for.

As for mental sharpening, well, I noticed I am more calm when speaking
and hearing (I got this audio misperception and sometimes I found it
is hard for me to speak and describe things clearly, and I sound silly
when I talked on the phone). As for concentration and memory, no
noticable progress.

Thank you to eveyone who is kind enough lead me the way.

#p.s : Anyone got formula for panic attacks? Or should I just do the
the LoC that respresents "fear"?

Hi Syahmi,


> thank you very much for the much needed information. I am currently
> using BSFF and EFT alongside AFT. is it ok for me them
simulatenously?

Do whatever supports you and you find helpful.
AFT is a particular tool for shifting energy and belief patterns - if
you have other tools you know and like and which help do this then it
all helps. I still use EFT myself sometimes :-)

> Just now I do the physchosis formula (I have been a schizophrenic
for
> some years now) and my grandieur thoughts has diminished a little,
but
> my "daydreaming" still heavy. (maybe I should do the voice
physchosis
> and schizophrenia formulas).

Yes, give it a try!

I have try my physchosis with EFT, but it
> only worked with very specific event.

That seems to be the way with EFT.
A lot of the training is about how to close in and get specific so
that EFT can work.
AFT (I believe) works at a more general level, dissipating the energy
field which is fuelling the whole problem.

>
> Another thing I want to ask it can I treat 2 ailments in one
session?

Yes - you can do as many formulas as you like one after the other -
it doesn't matter if they are at different levels.

All best wishes,
Mary

______________________________________________________________________
__

Mary L.R. Jones BSc MSc
Personal Coach, EFT Advanced Practitioner and Trainer, NLP
Practitioner, AFT Practitioner
www.thefuturestartsnow.com
Author of "The EFT Coach": www.eftcoach.com

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Jones"
<maryjones@...> wrote:

> Tapping can produce a little bit of "spaceiness" because of the
> energy shifting around and things being released.
> You can "ground" yourself by rubbing the Under Nose and Lowwer Lip
> points together while focussing on your feet being on the floor.
> Having a drink of water helps too.
>
>

> Yes, you need to do both lines.
> It is one complete formula - it's just split into two for visual
> formatting reasons.
>
> If you noticed a reduction in "temptation" reducing after just half
> the formula I will be very interested to hear what happens when you
> apply the whole thing!
>
> >

>
> I can't say exactly what your response to the formula would be - you
> would have to try it to see.
>
> When you refer to "modern medicine" don't forget that this uses a
> model of cause and effect based on mechanistic principles (Physical
> thing A causes physical thing B).
> AFT isn't working on that level - it is addressing the underlying
> energetic patterns which allow a condition to arise, not the
> condition itself.
> Since "modern medicine" doesn't look at or even admit the existance
> of the energetic level, its ideas about what "can't be treated" will
> be dictated by that.
> We used to think that we "can't" sail beyond the horizon or we'd fall
> off, and that we "can't" fly to the moon.
>
> I would suggest that you simply try the formula with an open mind and
> see for yourself (and let us know the results!).
>
> Best of luck,
> Mary
----------------
Hi mary,

thank you very much for the much needed information. I am currently
using BSFF and EFT alongside AFT. is it ok for me them simulatenously?
Just now I do the physchosis formula (I have been a schizophrenic for
some years now) and my grandieur thoughts has diminished a little, but
my "daydreaming" still heavy. (maybe I should do the voice physchosis
and schizophrenia formulas).I have try my physchosis with EFT, but it
only worked with very specific event.

Another thing I want to ask it can I treat 2 ailments in one session?
  Such as cerebral palsy and schizophrenia? Cerebral Palsy is LoC 50
LV,K1 while Schizophrenia is LoC 20 GV 1 or 2. If I cant, can I treat
them saparately at 2 different time in 1 day?

thank you very much. I cant really expressed how thankful I am on all
your explanations.

regards,
syahmi

Hi syahmi,

> thank you. I am currently using AFT to ditch one of my addiction. I
do
> it 2 times a day, 2 rounds each session. I felt a shift in mind the
> 1st time I use it, followed by a little dizziness. Is this normal?

Tapping can produce a little bit of "spaceiness" because of the
energy shifting around and things being released.
You can "ground" yourself by rubbing the Under Nose and Lowwer Lip
points together while focussing on your feet being on the floor.
Having a drink of water helps too.


the
> 1st time, I didnt use habit control, so I found my "tempation" for
> addiction still high, but as I applied the habit control formula,
the
> tempation went down a bit. Oh, and the habit control has 2 lines of
> formula, do I need to do all two? or can I pick either one?

Yes, you need to do both lines.
It is one complete formula - it's just split into two for visual
formatting reasons.

If you noticed a reduction in "temptation" reducing after just half
the formula I will be very interested to hear what happens when you
apply the whole thing!

>
> I noticed Cerebral Palsy is one of the ailment that AFT can treat.
> Having cerebral palsy myself, I wonder what can be expected if one
> decide to treat his/her cerebral palsy? I am curious because
according
> to modern medicine, cerebral palsy cant be treated, oer get worse.

I can't say exactly what your response to the formula would be - you
would have to try it to see.

When you refer to "modern medicine" don't forget that this uses a
model of cause and effect based on mechanistic principles (Physical
thing A causes physical thing B).
AFT isn't working on that level - it is addressing the underlying
energetic patterns which allow a condition to arise, not the
condition itself.
Since "modern medicine" doesn't look at or even admit the existance
of the energetic level, its ideas about what "can't be treated" will
be dictated by that.
We used to think that we "can't" sail beyond the horizon or we'd fall
off, and that we "can't" fly to the moon.

I would suggest that you simply try the formula with an open mind and
see for yourself (and let us know the results!).

Best of luck,
Mary


______________________________________________________________________
__

Mary L.R. Jones BSc MSc
Personal Coach, EFT Advanced Practitioner and Trainer, NLP
Practitioner, AFT Practitioner
www.thefuturestartsnow.com
Author of "The EFT Coach": www.eftcoach.com

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Jones"
<maryjones@...> wrote:
>
> > thank you mary. another thing is about LoC. does one need to have the
> > appropriate LoC to do the procedures? in the manual under the
> physical
> > ailment category, Usually the LoC are stated. I wonder if it just an
> > indication of our current LoC
> >
>
> The LoC next to each condition is the LoC at which the condition
> occurs.
>
> But it is also an instruction and part of the formula.
>
> It will say LoC 123 followed by some combination of the following: GV,
> LV, P, E and K
>
> These are specific pre-formulas which need to be tapped before the
> formula given in the manual.
> The GV (GodView), LV (LifeView), P (Process), E (Emotion) and K
> (Karma) formulas for each Loc are listed towards the back of the
> manual on pages 40-44.
>
> So if we take the Arm Pain formula it says:
> LoC 100 GV, LV 2
>
> This means:
> Tap the LoC 100 GV formula.
> Then tap the LoC 100 LV formula
> (The 2 indicates time of day to tap is afternoon)
> Then tap the Energy Field Clearer.
> Then tap the Sympton remover.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Mary
------------------
thank you. I am currently using AFT to ditch one of my addiction. I do
it 2 times a day, 2 rounds each session. I felt a shift in mind the
1st time I use it, followed by a little dizziness. Is this normal? the
1st time, I didnt use habit control, so I found my "tempation" for
addiction still high, but as I applied the habit control formula, the
tempation went down a bit. Oh, and the habit control has 2 lines of
formula, do I need to do all two? or can I pick either one?

I noticed Cerebral Palsy is one of the ailment that AFT can treat.
Having cerebral palsy myself, I wonder what can be expected if one
decide to treat his/her cerebral palsy? I am curious because according
to modern medicine, cerebral palsy cant be treated, oer get worse.

thank you.

regards,
syahmi

> thank you mary. another thing is about LoC. does one need to have the
> appropriate LoC to do the procedures? in the manual under the
physical
> ailment category, Usually the LoC are stated. I wonder if it just an
> indication of our current LoC
>

The LoC next to each condition is the LoC at which the condition
occurs.

But it is also an instruction and part of the formula.

It will say LoC 123 followed by some combination of the following: GV,
LV, P, E and K

These are specific pre-formulas which need to be tapped before the
formula given in the manual.
The GV (GodView), LV (LifeView), P (Process), E (Emotion) and K
(Karma) formulas for each Loc are listed towards the back of the
manual on pages 40-44.

So if we take the Arm Pain formula it says:
LoC 100 GV, LV 2

This means:
Tap the LoC 100 GV formula.
Then tap the LoC 100 LV formula
(The 2 indicates time of day to tap is afternoon)
Then tap the Energy Field Clearer.
Then tap the Sympton remover.

Hope this helps.
Mary

_______________________________________________________________________
_

Mary L.R. Jones BSc MSc
Personal Coach, EFT Advanced Practitioner and Trainer, NLP
Practitioner, AFT Practitioner
www.thefuturestartsnow.com
Author of "The EFT Coach": www.eftcoach.com

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Jones"
<maryjones@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> > Im new to AFT and very delighted to learn about it. I have read the
> > manual, but still confused about 2 things.
> >
> > 1 - how many rounds can you do in an AFT session? is it just one
> > round? I have looked for the addioction category and it does not tell
> > me anything.
> >
> > 2 - is it required for me to perform AFT daily or weekly?
>
> How often you need to do AFT varies on the condition and this is
> specified in the manual.
>
> For the addiction formulas it says:
> "Begin substance control by first using the addiction
> belief Formula for your particular addiction, and then performing the
> Habit Control and
> Withdrawal Formulas as needed. You only need to do the addiction
> belief Formulas once,
> unless you re-addict yourself by continuing substance use."
>
> What this means is:
> 1) Find the belief formula for the relevant addiction and do this
> ONCE.
> This assumes that you have given up the substance at this point. If
> you are continuing substance use, the implication is that you may need
> to do this formula more than once - but how often you would need to do
> so will vary by individual depending on their substance usage.
> You will do youself no harm by tapping more than is needed.
>
> 2) Depending on your withdrawal symptoms and cravings, do
> the "Withdrawal Symptoms" and/or "Habit Control" formulas as needed.
> For a particular person this may be once a day or several times a day
> initially, and would hopefully reduce over time.
>
>
> I hope this clarifies - do let us know how you get on and if you need
> further clarification.
> The manual can be a bit daunting to the beginner so please do ask more
> questions if you wish.
>
> Regards
> Mary
-----------------------
thank you mary. another thing is about LoC. does one need to have the
appropriate LoC to do the procedures? in the manual under the physical
ailment category, Usually the LoC are stated. I wonder if it just an
indication of our current LoC

Hello,

> Im new to AFT and very delighted to learn about it. I have read the
> manual, but still confused about 2 things.
>
> 1 - how many rounds can you do in an AFT session? is it just one
> round? I have looked for the addioction category and it does not tell
> me anything.
>
> 2 - is it required for me to perform AFT daily or weekly?

How often you need to do AFT varies on the condition and this is
specified in the manual.

For the addiction formulas it says:
"Begin substance control by first using the addiction
belief Formula for your particular addiction, and then performing the
Habit Control and
Withdrawal Formulas as needed. You only need to do the addiction
belief Formulas once,
unless you re-addict yourself by continuing substance use."

What this means is:
1) Find the belief formula for the relevant addiction and do this
ONCE.
This assumes that you have given up the substance at this point. If
you are continuing substance use, the implication is that you may need
to do this formula more than once - but how often you would need to do
so will vary by individual depending on their substance usage.
You will do youself no harm by tapping more than is needed.

2) Depending on your withdrawal symptoms and cravings, do
the "Withdrawal Symptoms" and/or "Habit Control" formulas as needed.
For a particular person this may be once a day or several times a day
initially, and would hopefully reduce over time.


I hope this clarifies - do let us know how you get on and if you need
further clarification.
The manual can be a bit daunting to the beginner so please do ask more
questions if you wish.

Regards
Mary

_______________________________________________________________________
_

Mary L.R. Jones BSc MSc
Personal Coach, EFT Advanced Practitioner and Trainer, NLP
Practitioner, AFT Practitioner
www.thefuturestartsnow.com
Author of "The EFT Coach": www.eftcoach.com

Hi All,

Im new to AFT and very delighted to learn about it. I have read the
manual, but still confused about 2 things.

1 - how many rounds can you do in an AFT session? is it just one
round? I have looked for the addioction category and it does not tell
me anything.

2 - is it required for me to perform AFT daily or weekly?

thank you in advance

James:

Thanks for the support. I hope you are doing well.

I spoke with Alice today and she told me about your conversation concerning the Trainer's training. You are probably correct. I would rather have a very few really good trainers that many poor ones.

Kurt

Kurt

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From: attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com [mailto:attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Nels
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:36 AM
To: attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [attractorfieldtechnique] Re: Changes to AFT group

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Jones"
<maryjones@...> wrote:
>

> I'd like to ask the group a question:
> The membership of the group is unrestricted and there is no pre-post
> moderation at this time.
> This does leave us open to weird and wonderful postings of all kinds -

Hi Mary,

I would say that we could leave things as they are for now and see how
it goes. I think what happens is that if we are not paying close
attention some offensive spam gets through by hit and run weirdos.

So it may help to have more than one co-moderator to fill in when the
other person may be away or too busy to monitor the group on a daily
basis. In that regard, Diana has made me a co-moderator and in turn I
have made my friend, and working partner, Susan Bolstad in Norway a
co-moderator as well.

I am located in Canada and in the process of moving from Saskatachewan
to British Columbia - so am quite busy at present. I have been a
student of EFT for about 5 years now and interested in AFT for 4
years. I attended the recent training intensive in Alta Wyoming, and
found it to be a high point in my humble existence.

Susan is an EFT ADV practitioner - has translated into Norwegian and
distributes - an EFT manual written by Betty Moore-Hafter. Both her
and I are very firm believers of both modalities and find they can
been used in a complementary way.

One factor that may be of interest to discuss is why pursue AFT, when
EFT is so much easier to learn? The two major advantages of AFT from
my perspective is that it utilizes Dr. Hawkins Map Of Consciousness to
zero in on the source of a condition and how kinesiological testing
can really get to the core of that condition. In that regard it is far
more precise than EFT, while at the same time EFT is quite "handy" in
treating symptoms, like carrying around an instant first aid kit.

Blessings, Nels

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@...>
wrote:
Hi Nels,

Thanks - I will leave things as they are.


> One factor that may be of interest to discuss is why pursue AFT, when
> EFT is so much easier to learn? The two major advantages of AFT from
> my perspective is that it utilizes Dr. Hawkins Map Of Consciousness
to
> zero in on the source of a condition and how kinesiological testing
> can really get to the core of that condition. In that regard it is
far
> more precise than EFT, while at the same time EFT is quite "handy" in
> treating symptoms, like carrying around an instant first aid kit.
>

Yes, this is a common question - and I have come to much the same
conclusion as you.

I still use EFT - and it's still by far the easiest way in for someone
new to energy psychology. It builds confidence in the "mad" notion
that stimulating meridians can have an effect on emotional state and
physical state.
Once that is accepted, it's then not such a big leap to some of the
even "madder" ideas in AFT.
(I mean "mad" from the point of view of Western / allopathic medicine)

For me too the big advance is the use of the Map of Consciousness to
track down core beliefs.
I think Gary Craig himself says many times that when EFT "isn't
working" it's because we haven't found the core issues yet.
And when these core issues are unconscious it's going to be really
hard to find them just through conversation.

I've experienced this directly working with clients using EFT.
Sometimes there comes a point when we just seem to be "going round in
circles" and not quite cracking what's going on.
That's the point I usually switch to AFT.

The other really useful aspect of AFT is the focus on finding blocks
in the way of clearing beliefs. (e.g. safety, possibility,
deservedness etc).
Of course EFT would understand these as reversals and they could
perhaps be cleared with EFT - if they were identified.

Having said that, now I'm familiar with the Map of Consciousness I do
find myself using it during EFT sessions aswell. i.e. I find myself
hearing the blocks and Level of Consciousness and guiding clients to
tap on what I know are relevent beliefs and reversals around those
levels.
The Map of Consciousness is will worth learning if only to heighten
your linguistic awareness of what clients are saying during sessions.

For any newbies wondering what the Map of Consciousness is, you can
see it here:
http://www.the-tree-of-life.com/POWERF%7E2.HTML

Mary

_______________________________________________________________________
_

Mary L.R. Jones BSc MSc
Personal Coach, EFT Advanced Practitioner and Trainer, NLP
Practitioner, AFT Practitioner
07803 616107 / 01908 395612
www.thefuturestartsnow.com
Author of "The EFT Coach": www.eftcoach.com

Hi

My name is Mike I m an EFT practitioner and m current "learning" AFT with
Alister Bredee. I have only just found this group today so I am looking
forward to furthering my skills with you all. I live in Blackpool UK

Mike

--- In attractorfieldtechnique@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Jones"
<maryjones@...> wrote:
>

> I'd like to ask the group a question:
> The membership of the group is unrestricted and there is no pre-post
> moderation at this time.
> This does leave us open to weird and wonderful postings of all kinds -

Hi Mary,

I would say that we could leave things as they are for now and see how
it goes. I think what happens is that if we are not paying close
attention some offensive spam gets through by hit and run weirdos.

So it may help to have more than one co-moderator to fill in when the
other person may be away or too busy to monitor the group on a daily
basis. In that regard, Diana has made me a co-moderator and in turn I
have made my friend, and working partner, Susan Bolstad in Norway a
co-moderator as well.

I am located in Canada and in the process of moving from Saskatachewan
to British Columbia - so am quite busy at present. I have been a
student of EFT for about 5 years now and interested in AFT for 4
years. I attended the recent training intensive in Alta Wyoming, and
found it to be a high point in my humble existence.

Susan is an EFT ADV practitioner - has translated into Norwegian and
distributes - an EFT manual written by Betty Moore-Hafter. Both her
and I are very firm believers of both modalities and find they can
been used in a complementary way.

One factor that may be of interest to discuss is why pursue AFT, when
EFT is so much easier to learn? The two major advantages of AFT from
my perspective is that it utilizes Dr. Hawkins Map Of Consciousness to
zero in on the source of a condition and how kinesiological testing
can really get to the core of that condition. In that regard it is far
more precise than EFT, while at the same time EFT is quite "handy" in
treating symptoms, like carrying around an instant first aid kit.

Blessings, Nels

Hi to everyone,

Thought I would introduce myself a bit.

I'm a UK based AFT practitioner (also coach and EFT practitioner)
currently building my experience of using AFT with clients.
I've taken the full AFT training twice and hope eventually to run
workshops in the UK.

I'm interested in seeing what other people are using AFT for and how
well it works for different people.
I'm also happy to help answer basic technique questions where I can
(although Bob and Kurt are best for the more more complicated and up
to date stuff) and of course share my experiences.

I'd like to ask the group a question:
The membership of the group is unrestricted and there is no pre-post
moderation at this time.
This does leave us open to weird and wonderful postings of all kinds -
  as we've seen recently.
So the question is - do you care?
As "moderator" I'm happy to delete anything obviously irrelevant
after it's been posted (I mean obvious spam type stuff).
Please let me know if you're happy with things the way they are or
whether you'd prefer more moderation. Post on here or email me
privately.
My default will be to leave things as they are unless there's an
obvious wish or need to change it.

Thanks to Diana for setting up the group and getting it this far.

Regards
Mary

______________________________________________________________________
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Mary L.R. Jones BSc MSc
Personal Coach, EFT Advanced Practitioner and Trainer, NLP
Practitioner, AFT Practitioner
www.thefuturestartsnow.com
Author of "The EFT Coach": www.eftcoach.com

Thanks Nel..

I will contact you directly.

Regards,
Diana

Hi everyone,

I have added Nels and Mary as moderators to this group.
I am sure they will contribute and add alot of their
experience to this group.

I would like to thank you both for taking this on.

I will still be coming into the group now and then, but
with all the committments I have at the moment I am unable to
put the effort needed into this group.

All the best
Diana

Thanks Mary..I will contact you directly.

All the best
Diana

Hi Mary, Kurt, Diana,

Sounds great to me!

Also Mary, I will volunteer to co-moderate if you like as would my
friend in Norway, Susan Bolstad. I co-moderate a couple of other
discussion groups but am not adept at moderating - how to set up the
spam filter system etc.

One group I co-moderate requires that new members have to be
pre-approved first before being allowed to post and it has never been
spammed in the three years I have co-moderated.

The applicant has to give a valid reason for wishing to join that
requires some knowledge of what the discussion group is all about.
Another option is to pre-screen each post, but I am sure, Mary you are
familar with what works.

By the way, a belated "Congratulations!" on becoming an AFT
Practitioner and best wishes for success.

Nels

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> Hi Diana,
>
> I'm certainly willing to help out.
> I currently moderate a couple of EFT groups so it wouldn't be much
> extra work to keep an eye on this one too.
> I would like to give Drs Ebert and Schwarz first option though.
>
> Thanks
> Mary Jones
> AFT Practitioner

Mary:

Go for it!

Kurt

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Hi Diana,

I'm certainly willing to help out.
I currently moderate a couple of EFT groups so it wouldn't be much
extra work to keep an eye on this one too.
I would like to give Drs Ebert and Schwarz first option though.

Thanks
Mary Jones
AFT Practitioner

> Is there anybody in this group that would like to take over as
> moderator for this group?
>
> I just don't get the time to keep an eye on it anymore.
>
> Please either contact me directly or through the group.
>
> With thanks
> Diana Moore
> MODERATOR
> ricandi@...
>

Is there anybody in this group that would like to take over as
moderator for this group?

I just don't get the time to keep an eye on it anymore.

Please either contact me directly or through the group.

With thanks
Diana Moore
MODERATOR
ricandi@...