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Re: Pre-season Clinical Experience Requirements

To follow-up to Dr. Merrick's comments,

Well said!

We too at LSU have never made it "optional"....the only option would be
if we have a student or two completing an internship during this time
with an NFL team or other athletic training-related internship.

We are finishing up our week of in-services tomorrow and then start-up
with August pre-season days for various clinical sites. One thing we
have been very proactive in this week has been infusing the older
students into the "educator" role, where they have been lead instructors
with reviewing therapeutic modalities, emergency care protocols, etc.,
that have been traditionally conducted solely by staff members. With
the newer format of having the staff start off a particular in-service
component and the older student stepping up into a limited teaching role
it has furthered our students' ownership of their education and the
knowledge/understanding of concepts. Combined with the interaction that
our students have with our local EMS personnel who come in to review
spine-board protocols, physician-lead in-services, etc., it has
continued each year to evolve into a more productive and meaningful
experience for both students and staff.

It really erks me that some have fallen into the proverbial entitlement
"pool", by which I mean that students should not have to do this or that
because their peers are not doing so. We have to keep in mind that the
ATEPs are for the students, but not for the students to run as they
feel.

To reiterate Dr. Merrick's comments, these types of experiences should
NOT BE optional, but again you have to have everyone on board of the
educational value of the experiences, and then also back up the "value"
through demonstration and action.

It's late so I won't join Dr. Merrick on his bandwagon, but will save it
for another day!

Good luck to all this year!

Ray


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Ray Castle, PhD, ATC, LAT
Assistant Professor - Professional Practice
Director - Concentration in Athletic Training
Louisiana State University <http://lsu.edu/>
Department of Kinesiology <http://lsu.edu/kinesiology>
112 Huey P. Long Fieldhouse
Baton Rouge, LA 70803
O# 225.578.7175
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The Concentration in Athletic Training is accredited by the

Commission on Accreditation of Athletic Training Education (CAATE)
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After having a discussion with the ACIs regarding pre-season practices, I reviewed the comments made on this listserv at the end of 2005 regarding...
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Jul 23, 2007
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To me, this is a critical issue for athletic training education programs. As educators, we want to provide meaningful clinical experiences for athletic...
John Lowry
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Aug 3, 2007
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Jeremy and colleagues, Great topic...makes me want to rant on-and-on in a long post :-) We have never approached the "pre-season" clinicals as optional and...
Merrick, Mark
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Aug 3, 2007
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Mark, I think you hit the nail right on the head with your insightful comments. I have often wondered why our field does not follow similar practices of other...
Wes Brown
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Aug 6, 2007
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I respectfully disagree with some of my collegues on this issue. I think, given the restrictions placed on students' clinical experiences during the school...
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Aug 6, 2007
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To follow-up to Dr. Merrick's comments, Well said! We too at LSU have never made it "optional"....the only option would be if we have a student or two...
Ralph R Castle
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Cudošs to Mark for his very timely, and important discussion on the distinction between educational experiences and free-labor, as it has been coined....
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"Am I on the money or am I off my rocker? What do others think? - Mark" Quote above from Dr. Merrick from previous post on this subject. My answer to...
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Mark and colleagues. Mark you are right on the money. Pre-season football camp and other sports is an outstanding and vital learning opportunity for athletic...
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We do not require our students to come back for pre-season practices. We do try to entice them to do so by allowing them to earn up to 30% of their required...
Valerie HERZOG
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It is a requirement of our ATEP that each ATS arrives before double-days and go through our yearly orientation session. When double-days start, they assist...
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I agree with Mark. We make pre-season a requirement. We tell our students that it is an opportune time for them to see a lot of injuries and to learn what...
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To me, this is a critical issue for athletic training education programs. As educators, we want to provide meaningful clinical experiences for athletic...
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