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Re: Pre-season Clinical Experience Requirements

Mark,

I think you hit the nail right on the head with your insightful
comments. I have often wondered why our field does not follow
similar practices of other allied health programs when it comes to
preparation of our students for the real world that they will be
entering upon graduation. Let's take graduate programs for
instance. I can see the argument that grad students should have
their hours limited due to having to attend classes and in some cases
do research. 20 hours a week does not really compare to the
realistic 40+ hours a week that they will experience if they get a
job post grad school. So are we really preparing that grad student
for the real world that they'll soon be entering? I definitely
believe the pre-season experience is of key importance for a number
of reasons other than students being used as work force. During
preseason if weight charts, SAC & BESS assessment, various heat
related illnesses, equipment fitting, and other such practices are
being done, shouldn't that be enough proof that students' presence to
be involved with these activites are necessary? If they come to the
clinical rotation once all these things are completed, when will they
get the chance to experience these things? Seeing it in class, but
never using it in a realistic situation is definitely not learning
over time and would technically be non-compliant standards-wise,
wouldn't it? We HIGHLY ENCOURAGE our students to make sure they can
be available for preseason. If they do, great. If they don't we no
longer get upset. It's their education. If they can live with
getting into the real world and not knowing some of the real world
applications of certain things due to not having the opportunity for
practice then that's fine. It also affects them later when they come
for references.

Wes Brown, MSED,LAT,ATC,PES,CES
Director of Sports Medicine
UNC Wilmington
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Fri Aug 3, 2007 3:46 pm

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After having a discussion with the ACIs regarding pre-season practices, I reviewed the comments made on this listserv at the end of 2005 regarding...
jerdmann101
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Jul 23, 2007
7:19 pm

To me, this is a critical issue for athletic training education programs. As educators, we want to provide meaningful clinical experiences for athletic...
John Lowry
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Aug 3, 2007
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Jeremy and colleagues, Great topic...makes me want to rant on-and-on in a long post :-) We have never approached the "pre-season" clinicals as optional and...
Merrick, Mark
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Aug 3, 2007
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Mark, I think you hit the nail right on the head with your insightful comments. I have often wondered why our field does not follow similar practices of other...
Wes Brown
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Aug 6, 2007
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I respectfully disagree with some of my collegues on this issue. I think, given the restrictions placed on students' clinical experiences during the school...
Taylor, Jeffrey Owen
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Aug 6, 2007
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To follow-up to Dr. Merrick's comments, Well said! We too at LSU have never made it "optional"....the only option would be if we have a student or two...
Ralph R Castle
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Aug 6, 2007
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Cudošs to Mark for his very timely, and important discussion on the distinction between educational experiences and free-labor, as it has been coined....
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Aug 6, 2007
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"Am I on the money or am I off my rocker? What do others think? - Mark" Quote above from Dr. Merrick from previous post on this subject. My answer to...
Ward, Scot
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Aug 6, 2007
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Mark and colleagues. Mark you are right on the money. Pre-season football camp and other sports is an outstanding and vital learning opportunity for athletic...
Jeffrey Bonacci
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Aug 6, 2007
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We do not require our students to come back for pre-season practices. We do try to entice them to do so by allowing them to earn up to 30% of their required...
Valerie HERZOG
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Aug 3, 2007
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It is a requirement of our ATEP that each ATS arrives before double-days and go through our yearly orientation session. When double-days start, they assist...
David Tomchuk
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Aug 3, 2007
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I agree with Mark. We make pre-season a requirement. We tell our students that it is an opportune time for them to see a lot of injuries and to learn what...
Sterner, Robert Lance
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Aug 6, 2007
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To me, this is a critical issue for athletic training education programs. As educators, we want to provide meaningful clinical experiences for athletic...
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