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Re: Extracurricular Clinical Education Experience (policy)

I responded once earlier in regards to grading the student. If I were
to encounter the scenario of the student expressing the "you can't
require me to do that" attitude I would return the sentiment by saying
"the same goes for the letter of recommendation that you may think you
deserve from me".

Rob Carmichael
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Colleagues, I know that several years ago, a conversation (a rather hotly debated one if my memory serves me correctly) on this listserv was generated re:...
Dr. Paul Geisler, ATC
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Nov 14, 2005
4:07 pm

You cannot grade them if the semester has not started, or if the semester is over....the students would win any fight that came from a poor grade. What we...
Kristen Schellhase
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Nov 15, 2005
12:37 am

How about student teachers assigned to a school that has a different academic schedule than the University? My University also offers a variety of courses...
Jose' E. Rivera
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Nov 18, 2005
4:42 pm

Why couldn't you grade them? We have an internship program that doesn't necessarily run concurrently with the academic semester and we grade students on...
Rob Carmichael
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Nov 16, 2005
12:25 am

I agree that technically they are volunteers, however they are covered under liability insurance (I have asked several people here more than once and they...
Kristen Schellhase
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Nov 16, 2005
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One way we have dealt with it recently is by requiring service hours each semester. Freshmen are required to earn 5, sophomores 10, juniors 15, and seniors 20...
Valerie Herzog
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Nov 18, 2005
4:37 pm

Kristen: We offer an Internship course in the summer. We give incomplete grades for those that do not finish by the time grades are oficially due. Once the...
James Leone
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Nov 18, 2005
4:40 pm

I responded once earlier in regards to grading the student. If I were to encounter the scenario of the student expressing the "you can't require me to do...
Rob Carmichael
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Nov 16, 2005
12:26 am

This has always been an interesting delimena: We don't have an athletic training program, but we do have students that volunteer and assist with our athletic...
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Nov 16, 2005
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Dr. Geisler and All: This topic recently came up and was addressed within our ATEP. We had students attending summer football camp before classes started and...
James Leone
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Nov 16, 2005
12:27 am

You know, in the old days . . . sorry, but I still have to bring it up. We did not worry about students playing "academic lawyer" with us on what they did or...
Paul Alvarez
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Nov 18, 2005
4:36 pm

Kristin. << I think it goes back to the same issues raised with students counting hours.....they dont realize it is not the hours, but the commitment to their...
Linda Stark Bobo
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Nov 18, 2005
4:36 pm

It may sound like I am taking a hard line on this (and I am), but there is good reason. I continually talk to PD's and CI's in other programs who notice and...
Rob Carmichael
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Nov 18, 2005
4:42 pm

Rob--you make great points. I feel one of the dangers about the restrictions placed upon us is that we will be turning out great "book smart" students, who...
Taylor, Jeffrey Owen
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Nov 25, 2005
1:44 pm

I have to agree with Rob Carmichael. Students are becoming too pampered. They have no clue what the real world is like in certain settings. Part of any...
Bradley, Jay A.
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Nov 25, 2005
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On reading all the post on this issue, it looks like ATEP are going to continually rewrite policy on this issue. I concurr with the post by Dr Alverez and Rob...
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Nov 27, 2005
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I agree, wholeheartedly, with Monroe's comments. The problem (or is it) is the accreditation agency. How do we give our students a REAL feel of what our...
Taylor, Jeffrey Owen
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Nov 29, 2005
10:56 pm

I have read all of the postings and can see both sides of the issue. I agree that students need to have commitment to their education and must be willing to...
Mickle Angela M.
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Nov 29, 2005
11:07 pm

A couple of thoughts/comments: FIrst, the idea mentioned of having students select working at summer camps offered at the university or college as a one credit...
George Potter
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Dec 2, 2005
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Rob, Jeff and others...I agree that the ATS should be made accountable towards the current cultural mindset of AT. The idea that an ATS would leave a patient,...
T J John
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Nov 29, 2005
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This is long!! But the discussion has taken several twists and turns. So read it or dump it. I printed and read all the Yahoo Group listed on this...
Robert D. Duchardt
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Nov 29, 2005
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Members of the Listserv: I'm apologize to rehash old wounds on sore topic, but given all the responses on this a couple of months ago. I wanted to respond...
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