I responded once earlier in regards to grading the student. If I were
to encounter the scenario of the student expressing the "you can't
require me to do that" attitude I would return the sentiment by saying
"the same goes for the letter of recommendation that you may think you
deserve from me".
Colleagues, I know that several years ago, a conversation (a rather hotly debated one if my memory serves me correctly) on this listserv was generated re:...
Dr. Paul Geisler, ATC
pgeisler@...
Nov 14, 2005 4:07 pm
You cannot grade them if the semester has not started, or if the semester is over....the students would win any fight that came from a poor grade. What we...
How about student teachers assigned to a school that has a different academic schedule than the University? My University also offers a variety of courses...
Jose' E. Rivera
jrivera@...
Nov 18, 2005 4:42 pm
Why couldn't you grade them? We have an internship program that doesn't necessarily run concurrently with the academic semester and we grade students on...
Rob Carmichael
RCARMICHAEL@...
Nov 16, 2005 12:25 am
I agree that technically they are volunteers, however they are covered under liability insurance (I have asked several people here more than once and they...
One way we have dealt with it recently is by requiring service hours each semester. Freshmen are required to earn 5, sophomores 10, juniors 15, and seniors 20...
Kristen: We offer an Internship course in the summer. We give incomplete grades for those that do not finish by the time grades are oficially due. Once the...
James Leone
jleoneatc@...
Nov 18, 2005 4:40 pm
I responded once earlier in regards to grading the student. If I were to encounter the scenario of the student expressing the "you can't require me to do...
Rob Carmichael
RCARMICHAEL@...
Nov 16, 2005 12:26 am
This has always been an interesting delimena: We don't have an athletic training program, but we do have students that volunteer and assist with our athletic...
abram357@...
Nov 16, 2005 12:26 am
Dr. Geisler and All: This topic recently came up and was addressed within our ATEP. We had students attending summer football camp before classes started and...
James Leone
jleoneatc@...
Nov 16, 2005 12:27 am
You know, in the old days . . . sorry, but I still have to bring it up. We did not worry about students playing "academic lawyer" with us on what they did or...
Kristin. << I think it goes back to the same issues raised with students counting hours.....they dont realize it is not the hours, but the commitment to their...
It may sound like I am taking a hard line on this (and I am), but there is good reason. I continually talk to PD's and CI's in other programs who notice and...
Rob Carmichael
RCARMICHAEL@...
Nov 18, 2005 4:42 pm
Rob--you make great points. I feel one of the dangers about the restrictions placed upon us is that we will be turning out great "book smart" students, who...
I have to agree with Rob Carmichael. Students are becoming too pampered. They have no clue what the real world is like in certain settings. Part of any...
On reading all the post on this issue, it looks like ATEP are going to continually rewrite policy on this issue. I concurr with the post by Dr Alverez and Rob...
abram357@...
Nov 27, 2005 11:06 pm
I agree, wholeheartedly, with Monroe's comments. The problem (or is it) is the accreditation agency. How do we give our students a REAL feel of what our...
I have read all of the postings and can see both sides of the issue. I agree that students need to have commitment to their education and must be willing to...
A couple of thoughts/comments: FIrst, the idea mentioned of having students select working at summer camps offered at the university or college as a one credit...
Rob, Jeff and others...I agree that the ATS should be made accountable towards the current cultural mindset of AT. The idea that an ATS would leave a patient,...
This is long!! But the discussion has taken several twists and turns. So read it or dump it. I printed and read all the Yahoo Group listed on this...
Robert D. Duchardt
DUCHARDT@...
Nov 29, 2005 11:13 pm
Members of the Listserv: I'm apologize to rehash old wounds on sore topic, but given all the responses on this a couple of months ago. I wanted to respond...