Rich Murray: Sullivan: symptom-free aspartame use 6.1.1 rmforall

Hello Dick Sullivan,

Yeah, Santa Fe is paradise!-- since Jan 1999,
I've given up my home-mixed regular Coke and vanilla
ice cream slurps; my twice-daily 20 oz mugs, half filled with dry milk,
1 Tbs instant coffee, 1 Tbs cocoa powder, 2 Tbs sugar,
hot city water added, cinnamon and nutmeg to taste
(great for surfing the Net for hours);
and all meat, poultry, fish, eggs, milk-butter-yogurt-cheese;

in favor of the John McDougall diet, low-protein and low-fat:
http://www.drmcdougall.com
rice, beans, vegetables, a few fruits, with garlic, salt, pepper;
two quarts daily of popcorn with 2 Tbs flaxseed oil, garlic, salt,
pepper;
1 - 2 pints oatmeal, cooked with same amount of deionized water with
various nuts and raisins. Gave up all wheat for months, then found
that sprouted grain wheat breads are fine,
2-4 slices daily with honey and organic peanut butter.
All food is organic. Gave up coffee and cocoa
last month-- have black, green, and chai teas. Additive-free
vitamin-mineral capsule, 4 gm C, 2 gm E, calcium-magnesium capsule,
1000 micrograms B-12, 1200 micrograms folic acid, ginko, ginsing,
200 mg 5-HTP.
At age 58, my past good health is much improved,
about 140 lb, 5'11", little exercise, rare colds,
decades of very loose stools have become soft formed,
forehead gets a little rashy, usual March allergies (for which I'm OK
with a morning chinese herbal pill), much improved mental clarity,
focus, and evenness (always had mild attention deficit disorder),
hair thinning on top, grey beard (if I dared grow it),
lost a molar in March due to sudden large cavity, healthy gums,
7 mercury amalgam fillings were replaced with epoxy silicon
dioxide composites in 1984 (ending metallic taste in mouth,
reducing headaches, less gum bleeding). Gave up potatoes, since
two alkaloids common in many varieties of potatoes may well
be a major co-factor in schizophrenia-- the world's highest
incidence is in Ireland... Also, no soy, due to high levels
of hormones, fat, and protein. Smoked a pack a day from
1974 to 1984. Gave up pot and LSD in 1980.
Almost never used alcohol. Some days I put a tsp sugar in
my pint of tea, some days I use 6 drops stevia extract.

Rather free of stress, having worked 16 years as home hospice
care giver-- indulge in wonderful meditations with my friends
every day, and with Sondra, my lady, an acapuncturist. Usually
sleep from midnight to 6 AM, with little naps during some of
the meditations-- danger of drooling!

I drank about 10 L lemon Crystal Light in 1995, on ice with orange
juice, over a period of 6 months, and by Sept. 1995
slowly had gotten a very stiff neck, very hard to look to my L while
driving, and then suddenly at midnight had bad R shoulder joint
pain with a permanent numbness on the end of my R thumb on the
R side-- at 3 AM, I bought aspirin, Tylenol, and Ibuprofen,
and took lots that night. Since I had gotten a mild neck jolt
a few weeks earlier from being rear-ended in my car, then with
the many chiropractic adjustments plus acapuncture plus almost
accidentally not buying more Crystal Light, I soon had normal
neck mobility. Only learned about the possibility of
aspartame toxicity in Jan 1999. So, it's possible I had a
reaction to aspartame. I never noticed headaches from the
rare Diet Cokes I had, and have had no aspartame since Jan
1999. Mild headaches a few times a year. Tonsils and
adenoids out in 1947 at age 5; knocked out for 10 minutes
in 1953 at age 10 from blow to top of head-- I believe I
had permanent mild cognitive deficits from that. Grew up
as a bookworm nerd type in a small town in East Texas.
Typically, very slow at reading piano music, but good at
turning myself loose into spontaneous improvisations.
Not talented at the visual arts or singing, poorly
coordinated at fast sports. Usual disposition: happy,
sweet, relaxed, playful, independent, stubborn,
yet accomodating and helpful. This year I tend to wake
up feeling friendly and up, rather than needing an hour
to feel OK. Some dream recall, with enjoyment and
interest, occasionally precognitive about the next day or
two.

Rich Murray Room For All rmforallearthlink.net
1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, NM 87505 505-986-9103
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/618
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Murray: Sullivan: symptom-free aspartame use 5.31.1

May 31 2001 Hello Dick Sullivan, Thank you for your report on your
experience with using aspartame. Did you start in February 2001?
How many diet drinks and packets of NutraSweet do you use daily?
I invite you to share more about your diet, health in general,
medications, exercise, use of alcohol (an antidote to methanol),
and any other relevant factors.
May I share your reports with various networks involved with the issue
of aspartame toxicity? Since Jan 1999 I have found almost no reports
of aspartame users who are free of the typical complaints reported by
aspartame reactors. The claim is that the toxicity is cumulative--
many reactors report that their symptoms did not start to evolve until
after months of use.

The claim that widespread aspartame use protects many undiagnosed
diabetics is reasonable on the face of it, and deserves careful
evaluation. The critics claim is that aspartame increases food and
drink cravings, and in other ways worsens the diabetic process.
Dr. H.J. Roberts probably discusses this in detail:

Excellent 5-page review by H.J. Roberts in "Townsend Letter",
Jan 2000, "Aspartame (NutraSweet) Addiction"
http://www.dorway.com/tldaddic.html http://www.sunsentpress.com/
H.J. Roberts, M.D. HJRobertsmd@... sunsentpress@...
Sunshine Sentinel Press 6708 Pamela Lane West Palm Beach, FL 33405
800-814-9800 561-588-7628 561-547-8008 fax
1038 page text "Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic"
released May 30 2001 $ 85.00 postpaid data from 1200 cases
http://www.aspartameispoison.com/contents.html 34 chapters

Best regards, Rich Murray Room For All rmforall@...
1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, NM 87505 505-986-9103
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/618
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Subject: Re: [Quackbusters] Did you feel better for the days without
aspartame?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:03:19 -0600
From: Richard Sullivan FRPS <richsul@...>
To: quackbusters@yahoogroups.com

Having been diagnosed with Type II diabetes last February, I gave up my
daily intake of 6 Classic Cokes and switched to Diet Pepsi and Diet
Coke. I've lost 55 lbs since then and attribute some of that to the
Diet Pepsi. I used to drink 2 or 3 of the Cokes in the evening,
and now that I sip on the Diet Pepsis instead,
I sleep better at night now that my blood sugar is not roaring.
I now buy NutraSweet in the big 750 count
economy packs at Sam's Club. Instead of sugar, I dump a bunch on my
strawberries and blueberries which I float in soy cream, this is my
food pleasure for the day. Since I have switched from sugar to
Apartame, I feel a million times better.

There are 14 million diabetics in the US, and some estimates are that
there are that many still undiagnosed. For about 10% of the U.S.
population, sugar is a deadly poison. Up to now, and undetected by
any population study, the possible adverse effects of Apartame on
the population as a whole are far less devastating than those caused by
sugar.

Some diabetics living near the Canadian border slip across and buy
cyclamates by the gallon, a substance banned here by the notorious FDA!
Some 38 other countries allow the use of cyclamates, since it was
determined that the original studies showing it to be carcinogenic
were in error. This includes most of Western Europe.
The National Academy of Science made that determination in 1984.
Abbott labs and Dupont are/were the co-holders of the
cyclamate patents, and the idea that the FDA can be bought
is begging the question here.

--Dick Sullivan Mission Probable

Subject: Re: [Quackbusters] Murray: Sullivan: symptom-free aspartame
use 5.31.1
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:33:44 -0600
From: Richard Sullivan FRPS <richsul@...>
To: Rich Murray <rmforall@...>

Hello Rich Murray,

Sure you can use my anecdotal evidence. I am 61.

I have been an Aspartame user since it first came out, and on average
maybe 2 or three packets a day then, but it's gone up since my DM.
I might actually switch to Cyclamate if I could get hooked up with the
underground pipeline out of Canada.
Cyclamate http://www.cylcamate.com
can be used in cooking, whereas Aspartame cannot,
and it is a whole lot cheaper and comes in liquid
and can be bought in gallons. Over the years I have preferred regular
Coke over Diet, so that was one of my major sugar links.
I've used Aspartame for many things, but also used sugar too,
but I am now eliminating sugar.

My basic diet has been Pritikin/Ornish with lots of days off. Since
going diabetic, I've preferred to cut back on grains and such.
I am exploring Walford's CRON diet,
as that is pretty much where I have found myself by just
trying to work out a reasonable DM diet and also to lose weight.

Just had a pipe job -- you know the camera up the butt routine. Two
small benign polyps removed, now clean as a whistle.
My Cholesterol is 120, blood pressure runs 135/70--
I check them both regularly.
Got a meter that reads Chol. Both are rare lows in diabetics.
I suspect it is the Apartame holding them down.<grin>-- Could be!

I was DX'd at HbA1c at 7.9 in early February 2001. (by fructasomine
equivalence I am at about 5.5 now.) I've lost gone from 264 lbs in
early Feb 2001 to 208 last night on a + or - .2 Lb Tanita scale--
with 26% body fat.
No cravings -- but I suspect that is due to the CRON diet --
I think which being of an extremely high nutritional density alleviates
the cravings.
Ever ate 1500 calories of cabbage, tomatoes, squash, and
spinach and a piece of sashimi tuna? Try it, you won't be hungry.
I do some supplementing both for the DM and the calories reduction.
I am a dietary pesco vegatarian now.
No ideology, no message for the world. It's just that
the evidence seems to indicate that fish protein is more benign than
animal. Four billion years worth of evolution has evolved
into big fish eat little fish,
and it would be arrogant of me to think that I knew better
than nature (or God for believers). If I am out at dinner at a
friends, I'll eat what's served.

Addicted? Only as far as I like an occasional sweet once in a while.
Actually I've never had a big sweet tooth, until I find out sugar is
bad for me. You always want what you can't have.
I'd be perfectly happy to
indulge in my 1.5 cups of blueberries, soy milk and Apartame
with sugar instead, that is,
except for the calories and my glucose soaring. Addicted?
Sure, to calories (I am/was fat), probably built in by evolution.
It makes sense, we're warm blooded and need lots of calories to run us,
Some of us are more primitive than others in this
regard, and we grab the C's when we can, and given a choice, we'll go
for the fat and meat over the veggies.
They can be packed into the tummy
tighter and last longer for the hike to the next camp.

Why Apartame? It is clear from the evidence that 50 gm of
saturated fat is far more dangerous.
We're famous here in Santa Fe for big steaks,
and I know people who will sit down and eat a 20 oz Sirloin served
at our Applebee's who would die before
they'd touch a gram of Aspartame.
Got friends on Atkins who won't touch it either.
Got friends who smoke and won't touch it-- go figure!

at a small health food joint over on Alameda-- Health food cigs?
But then Whole Foods sells Ben and Jerry's--
Go figure again. -- I digress.

After more than 20 years of use I suspect if it was going to get me,
it would have, and if it was as bad as some claim, we'd be up to our
kiesters in wheelchairs and crutches.

Funny-- I just finished a Diet Pepsi while writing this. Cheers.
Oh, and I checked and you are in Santa Fe too?! --Dick Sullivan
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