aspartame doggerel has a fan on alt.support.diabetes, so here's more...:
Rich Murray 2009.05.30
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.htm
Saturday, May 29, 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1574

Aspartame
does cause pain
with no gain.

Some maintain
it to blaim,
so complain.

Some maintain
not the same
ills have fame.

Each not same --
entertain
complex game.

It is sane
not to blaim
facts untame.

Not the same
type of stain,
very plain.

Do not deign
just to blaim
victim's pain --
they don't feign,
in the main,
they be maim,
gamely lame,
seem insane,
torn membrane,
burning vein,
poor sad brain,
spinning vane,
mad as Cain,
like cocaine,
as tears rain,
relief vain,
hope does wane.

Heinous bane,
a cruel reign,
with the name,
Aspartame.

http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.htm
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1572

"Of course, everyone chooses, as a natural priority, to enjoy
peace, joy, and love by helping to find, quickly share, and positively
act upon evidence about healthy and safe food, drink, and
environment."

Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@...
505-501-2298 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505

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Newsgroups: alt.support.diabetes, alt.support.diabetes.uk,
misc.health.diabetes
From: Alan Mackenzie <a...@...>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:01:45 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, May 13 2009 6:01 am
Subject: Re: re huge reduction in preterm births: folic acid prevents harm
from formaldehyde and formic acid made by body from methanol in alcohol
drinks and aspartame, BM Kapur, DC Lehotay, PL Carlen at U. Toronto, Alc
Clin Exp Res 2007 Dec: Rich Murray 2009

[ snip ~1000 lines ]

Rich, get real, will you? This newsgroup is for discussion of DIABETES,
in any of its variants. The effect of folic acid on births has nothing
to do with diabetes, except in so far as everything has some effect on
everything else.

Just as importantly, NOBODY is going to be reading a 1000 line post.
Even if your post were relevant, stylishly written, and interesting,
still nobody would read it. They'd get to, perhaps, line 100, then stop
to attend to their other things, or go to bed. As it was, my hands got
tired holding Ctrl-K long enough to delete these many hundred lines.

Please don't burden these newsgroups (or any other) with these mammoth
posts.

Thanks!
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).


From: "Julie Bove" <julieb...@...>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:05:01 -0700
Local: Wed, May 13 2009 10:05 am

Hope you don't get your e-mail flooded like I did some years ago.
Best to just killfile him because he won't go away.

[ Rich Murray: For what my testimony is worth to you,
someone unknown dumped a virus on the members
of alt.support.diabetes that I had just emailed directly and publicly,
repeating my post over and over as if I was the sender.
Never in my ten years as an aspartame toxicity information
activist have I done any internet crime.
I am unfailingly polite, attentive, and careful.
What sense would there be in alienating the very people
that need the documented information I provide?
Why would I undermine my own reputation, the only asset I have?

My posts are long, because each has to carry a lot of supporting
documentation from mainstream research, aimed at the minority
of readers who have evolved the academic skills to enjoy rapidly
assimilating copious, dull details.
I have to meet the challenge of persuading key citizens
who are ten to a hundred times faster and more educated
and experienced than I am.
Google picks up on all these details in my many long posts,
and so refers them to anyone who searches the deails.
The industry for almost four decades has persistently and brilliantly
flooded the mainstream journals and media with biased "research" --
just as have the tobacco, alcohol, and lead industries. ]


From: Alan Mackenzie <a...@...>
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:28:27 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, May 14 2009 4:28 am

That's not entirely fair. I had a courteous email conversation with Rich
a few years back. He's not a bad guy. Anybody who can write this can't
be all bad:

a giraffe
on a raft
tiny craft
must be daft
and aghast
better laugh
not a gaffe

not to grind
gears of mind
is sublime
why be blind
try to bind
hide behind
bitter rind
we can climb
the incline
on a dime
for the line
in the mine
pays this time
ninety nine
we opine
and we pine
better rhyme
than sling slime
we can whine
or recline
my enzyme
fot the mind
just remind
mighty fine

(Subject: Re: yet three more stevia abstracts: ......
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:06:21 -0600
Message-ID: <11fdf9r9pt4b...@...>)

Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).


From: "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@...>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:53:08 -0500
Local: Thurs, May 28 2009 3:53 pm

Then, I might mention that I've seen some articles mentioning that some
people seem to have problems with the conversion pathway from folic
acid to the form actually used. One step leads to folinic acid, which
happens to be available as a supplement those people can use instead
of folic acid. Another step leads to the only form that can cross the
blood-brain barrier, and is therefore the only form the brain can use.
This form has a name so long I haven't gotten around to checking
whether it is available as a supplement.

Could Rich Murray consider the possibility that people with problems
in these conversion steps might be the only ones who need to worry
about the products of normal amounts of aspartame? I haven't found
anything yet to say whether this is true or not.

Robert Miles

aspartame, caffeine, MSG, alcohol may cause migraine headaches,
C Sun-Edelstein, A Mauskop, The New York Headache Center,
Clin J Pain 2009 June: Rich Murray 2009.05.25
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.htm
Monday, May 25, 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1573