My husband and I quit aspertame products a week and a half ago, my husband is

diabetic, I am not.  I am losing weight, however, he is

gaining ... he is very discouraged, he has not changed his eating

habits ... he's thinking maybe its okay for him to drink fruit drinks

with sucrulose ... I told him to give it more time ... maybe his body

needs to adjust, he feels like his metabolism is slowing down ... I mentioned

that maybe aspartame tricks his body into thinking its real sugar, maybe thats

why his metabolism was higher before.  I have fibromyalgia myself, and have

noticed improvements already ... we both noticed the fog lift right away ... my

pain level has improved 50% already.  Maybe someone knows why he is gaining

weight, as I cannot find anything on the net about "gaining weight" after

removing aspertame.

Well, he does monitor his BGLs ... The only thing he has changed is removing

aspartame from his diet ... he is pretty good at monitoring his body ... this is

what is so frustrating, cause he hasn't changed his eating habits, low sugar

intake, but he is gaining weight fairly quickly .... I told him we can go to his

doctor ... some doctors laugh at the very fact that aspartame is a problem, and

some actually recommend these diet drinks are Okay for Diabetics....Well, I am

going to encourage him to drink more water...and get more raw vegetables for him

to snack on during the day...He's sort of limited himself to the banana, apple,

and orange, but I don't think that is enough. Thanx for your advice.





--- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Burghart / Darrell StJohn - ELMHAVEN"

<elmhaven@...> wrote:

>

> Some of the 'oral' medications for type II diabetics are counterproductive

(and even CAUSE weight gain while maintaining BGLs).  One of the biggest

offenders I know of is Actos.  Other personal experiences with

Metformin/Glucophage have been the same with extended use.

>

> Each person is different, each person's body chemistry will be and react

differently, even to the same medications.  Men and Women are different.  There

are almost too many factors to even think of enumerating.

>

> Aspartame is hidden in so many foods -- one of the key things is to learn to

read the labels and learn the hidden places where the poison is slipped in, for

no good reason other than MONEY and profits.

>

> Many diabetics' bodies need to "learn to burn" again, and that takes a long

process.  Exercise, water, and lots of 'whole foods' and raw veggies, and

certain carbs/starches will soon become part of your body's leaning curve and it

will (or can) get better.

>

> We still need to work with our doctors and maintain our health -- but also WE

are responsible for checking into what the doctors tell us, getting the facts

correctly, and working from there.  Medicine is far from an exact science, and

any good doctor will tell you that straight up -- those that tell you they know

the answer, BE AFRAID!

>

> Best of luck - time is your friend (and your husband's)... give it some time. 

Check his BGLs often and learn which foods are doing what to or for him.  Listen

to your body (and he to his), it will many times show you what you need to

do--you just have to learn to read it.

>

> Bill.

>

>

> ELMHAVEN

> *Purebred Nubian Dairy Goats - Polled Genetics

> Visit our website - http://www.elmhaven.com/

>

>  - - -

>

>

> From: kewltek38

> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:08 AM

> To: aspartame@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [Aspartame Support] Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time as

me-he's gaining weight???

>

>

> My husband and I quit aspertame products a week and a half ago, my husband is

diabetic, I am not.  I am losing weight, however, he is

> gaining ... he is very discouraged, he has not changed his eating

> habits ... he's thinking maybe its okay for him to drink fruit drinks

> with sucrulose ... I told him to give it more time ... maybe his body

> needs to adjust, he feels like his metabolism is slowing down ... I mentioned

that maybe aspartame tricks his body into thinking its real sugar, maybe thats

why his metabolism was higher before.  I have fibromyalgia myself, and have

noticed improvements already ... we both noticed the fog lift right away ... my

pain level has improved 50% already.  Maybe someone knows why he is gaining

weight, as I cannot find anything on the net about "gaining weight" after

removing aspertame.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

> PLEASE TRY AND RECRUIT MEMBERS - SEND THEM TO

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/

>

> PRINT OUT THIS FLIER AND HAND IT OUT TO PEOPLE:

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>

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>

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>

You said why he is gaining here.



Banana and being a diabetic. That alone is horrible for the body.



Go to the forum I mentioned and ask questions there.



He may not have been gaining before and I doubt this has anything to do with

quitting aspartame.



They have diabetics there and can tell you how to have a better diet.



No fruit at all for sure. NO breads and or pastas. Vegies are fine.



Meds can mess up stuff too.



Barb



--- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "kewltek38" <teklady43@...> wrote:

>

> Well, he does monitor his BGLs ... The only thing he has changed is removing

aspartame from his diet ... he is pretty good at monitoring his body ... this is

what is so frustrating, cause he hasn't changed his eating habits, low sugar

intake, but he is gaining weight fairly quickly .... I told him we can go to his

doctor ... some doctors laugh at the very fact that aspartame is a problem, and

some actually recommend these diet drinks are Okay for Diabetics....Well, I am

going to encourage him to drink more water...and get more raw vegetables for him

to snack on during the day...He's sort of limited himself to the banana, apple,

and orange, but I don't think that is enough. Thanx for your advice.

>

>

> --- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Burghart / Darrell StJohn - ELMHAVEN"

<elmhaven@> wrote:

> >

> > Some of the 'oral' medications for type II diabetics are counterproductive

(and even CAUSE weight gain while maintaining BGLs).  One of the biggest

offenders I know of is Actos.  Other personal experiences with

Metformin/Glucophage have been the same with extended use.

> >

> > Each person is different, each person's body chemistry will be and react

differently, even to the same medications.  Men and Women are different.  There

are almost too many factors to even think of enumerating.

> >

> > Aspartame is hidden in so many foods -- one of the key things is to learn to

read the labels and learn the hidden places where the poison is slipped in, for

no good reason other than MONEY and profits.

> >

> > Many diabetics' bodies need to "learn to burn" again, and that takes a long

process.  Exercise, water, and lots of 'whole foods' and raw veggies, and

certain carbs/starches will soon become part of your body's leaning curve and it

will (or can) get better.

> >

> > We still need to work with our doctors and maintain our health -- but also

WE are responsible for checking into what the doctors tell us, getting the facts

correctly, and working from there.  Medicine is far from an exact science, and

any good doctor will tell you that straight up -- those that tell you they know

the answer, BE AFRAID!

> >

> > Best of luck - time is your friend (and your husband's)... give it some

time.  Check his BGLs often and learn which foods are doing what to or for him. 

Listen to your body (and he to his), it will many times show you what you need

to do--you just have to learn to read it.

> >

> > Bill.

> >

> >

> > ELMHAVEN

> > *Purebred Nubian Dairy Goats - Polled Genetics

> > Visit our website - http://www.elmhaven.com/

> >

> >  - - -

> >

> >

> > From: kewltek38

> > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:08 AM

> > To: aspartame@yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: [Aspartame Support] Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time as

me-he's gaining weight???

> >

> >

> > My husband and I quit aspertame products a week and a half ago, my husband

is diabetic, I am not.  I am losing weight, however, he is

> > gaining ... he is very discouraged, he has not changed his eating

> > habits ... he's thinking maybe its okay for him to drink fruit drinks

> > with sucrulose ... I told him to give it more time ... maybe his body

> > needs to adjust, he feels like his metabolism is slowing down ... I

mentioned that maybe aspartame tricks his body into thinking its real sugar,

maybe thats why his metabolism was higher before.  I have fibromyalgia myself,

and have noticed improvements already ... we both noticed the fog lift right

away ... my pain level has improved 50% already.  Maybe someone knows why he is

gaining weight, as I cannot find anything on the net about "gaining weight"

after removing aspertame.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> > PLEASE TRY AND RECRUIT MEMBERS - SEND THEM TO

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/

> >

> > PRINT OUT THIS FLIER AND HAND IT OUT TO PEOPLE:

http://www.ojinaga.com/aspartame/

> >

> > CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE!! http://presidiotex.com/aspartame

> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

>

Often getting better is true but carbs for a diabetic is not a good thing but

you have a point.



Barb



--- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Burghart / Darrell StJohn - ELMHAVEN"

<elmhaven@...> wrote:

>

> We won't agree on diabetic diets (nutrition and carbs).  It is all DEGREES. 

To what degree the pancreas has ceased or interrupted functioning.

>

> Many foods, and yes this includes carbs, in more raw and natural diets are

beneficial -- again, depending on the DEGREE of the pancreas (insulin) action.

>

> To lump any one food group is just like Doctors telling us it is OK to drink

the **diet** poisons on the market.

>

> Each body is different and each person must learn to listen to their body --

the sooner we all do, the sooner we all have an ***Opportunity*** to help

ourselves and our health.

>

> Things can and do get better, but not without effort and certainly not by

doing nothing.

>

> Bill.

>

>

> ELMHAVEN

> *Purebred Nubian Dairy Goats - Polled Genetics

> Visit our website - http://www.elmhaven.com/

>

>  - - -

>

>

> From: btleah

> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:01 PM

> To: aspartame@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [Aspartame Support] Re: Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time

as me-he's gaining weight???

>

>

> You said why he is gaining here.

>

> Banana and being a diabetic. That alone is horrible for the body.

>

> Go to the forum I mentioned and ask questions there.

>

> He may not have been gaining before and I doubt this has anything to do with

quitting aspartame.

>

> They have diabetics there and can tell you how to have a better diet.

>

> No fruit at all for sure. NO breads and or pastas. Vegies are fine.

>

> Meds can mess up stuff too.

>

> Barb

>

> --- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "kewltek38" <teklady43@> wrote:

> >

> > Well, he does monitor his BGLs ... The only thing he has changed is removing

aspartame from his diet ... he is pretty good at monitoring his body ... this is

what is so frustrating, cause he hasn't changed his eating habits, low sugar

intake, but he is gaining weight fairly quickly .... I told him we can go to his

doctor ... some doctors laugh at the very fact that aspartame is a problem, and

some actually recommend these diet drinks are Okay for Diabetics....Well, I am

going to encourage him to drink more water...and get more raw vegetables for him

to snack on during the day...He's sort of limited himself to the banana, apple,

and orange, but I don't think that is enough. Thanx for your advice.

> >

> >

> > --- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Burghart / Darrell StJohn -

ELMHAVEN" <elmhaven@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Some of the 'oral' medications for type II diabetics are counterproductive

(and even CAUSE weight gain while maintaining BGLs).  One of the biggest

offenders I know of is Actos.  Other personal experiences with

Metformin/Glucophage have been the same with extended use.

> > >

> > > Each person is different, each person's body chemistry will be and react

differently, even to the same medications.  Men and Women are different.  There

are almost too many factors to even think of enumerating.

> > >

> > > Aspartame is hidden in so many foods -- one of the key things is to learn

to read the labels and learn the hidden places where the poison is slipped in,

for no good reason other than MONEY and profits.

> > >

> > > Many diabetics' bodies need to "learn to burn" again, and that takes a

long process.  Exercise, water, and lots of 'whole foods' and raw veggies, and

certain carbs/starches will soon become part of your body's leaning curve and it

will (or can) get better.

> > >

> > > We still need to work with our doctors and maintain our health -- but also

WE are responsible for checking into what the doctors tell us, getting the facts

correctly, and working from there.  Medicine is far from an exact science, and

any good doctor will tell you that straight up -- those that tell you they know

the answer, BE AFRAID!

> > >

> > > Best of luck - time is your friend (and your husband's)... give it some

time.  Check his BGLs often and learn which foods are doing what to or for him. 

Listen to your body (and he to his), it will many times show you what you need

to do--you just have to learn to read it.

> > >

> > > Bill.

> > >

> > >

> > > ELMHAVEN

> > > *Purebred Nubian Dairy Goats - Polled Genetics

> > > Visit our website - http://www.elmhaven.com/

> > >

> > >  - - -

> > >

> > >

> > > From: kewltek38

> > > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:08 AM

> > > To: aspartame@yahoogroups.com

> > > Subject: [Aspartame Support] Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time

as me-he's gaining weight???

> > >

> > >

> > > My husband and I quit aspertame products a week and a half ago, my husband

is diabetic, I am not.  I am losing weight, however, he is

> > > gaining ... he is very discouraged, he has not changed his eating

> > > habits ... he's thinking maybe its okay for him to drink fruit drinks

> > > with sucrulose ... I told him to give it more time ... maybe his body

> > > needs to adjust, he feels like his metabolism is slowing down ... I

mentioned that maybe aspartame tricks his body into thinking its real sugar,

maybe thats why his metabolism was higher before.  I have fibromyalgia myself,

and have noticed improvements already ... we both noticed the fog lift right

away ... my pain level has improved 50% already.  Maybe someone knows why he is

gaining weight, as I cannot find anything on the net about "gaining weight"

after removing aspertame.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > > PLEASE TRY AND RECRUIT MEMBERS - SEND THEM TO

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/

> > >

> > > PRINT OUT THIS FLIER AND HAND IT OUT TO PEOPLE:

http://www.ojinaga.com/aspartame/

> > >

> > > CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE!! http://presidiotex.com/aspartame

> > >

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> > >

> > > to unsubscribe from this list, send a blank e-mail to:

aspartame-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

> > >

> > > Yahoo! Groups Links

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

> PLEASE TRY AND RECRUIT MEMBERS - SEND THEM TO

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/

>

> PRINT OUT THIS FLIER AND HAND IT OUT TO PEOPLE:

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There are some that may not agree with me but low carb is promoted by docs for

diabetics to keep blood sugar under control.



Lowcarber.org is the name I think to ask questions on this matter.



He should not be eating a lot of carbs because of the sugar issue.



If my mom did not do so she may still be here and I do miss her.



Barb



--- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "kewltek38" <teklady43@...> wrote:

>

> My husband and I quit aspertame products a week and a half ago, my husband is

diabetic, I am not.  I am losing weight, however, he is

> gaining ... he is very discouraged, he has not changed his eating

> habits ... he's thinking maybe its okay for him to drink fruit drinks

> with sucrulose ... I told him to give it more time ... maybe his body

> needs to adjust, he feels like his metabolism is slowing down ... I mentioned

that maybe aspartame tricks his body into thinking its real sugar, maybe thats

why his metabolism was higher before.  I have fibromyalgia myself, and have

noticed improvements already ... we both noticed the fog lift right away ... my

pain level has improved 50% already.  Maybe someone knows why he is gaining

weight, as I cannot find anything on the net about "gaining weight" after

removing aspertame.

>

I would not use it but it is the choice of the person as I had to learn the hard

way no MSG at all. It is hard when one is watching others eat what they are.



I went to art shows today and I got a plain hamburg. Read the lables on the

condiments and took only the safe one's.  Boy am I am going to get tired of

hamburg.



Barb



--- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, margaret russell <margaretjrussell@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Barb!

> Fruit is allowed, and so is bread, but in tiny amounts. (Certainly NOT 3 lots

of fruit in a day!) Low Carb Dieting over the past few weeks has changed my

Invulin from 4 x times a day to ONCE!

>  

> Regards

> Marg

>

> --- On Sat, 11/7/09, btleah <btleah@...> wrote:

>

>

> From: btleah <btleah@...>

> Subject: [Aspartame Support] Re: Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time

as me-he's gaining weight???

> To: aspartame@yahoogroups.com

> Received: Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 9:01 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You said why he is gaining here.

>

> Banana and being a diabetic. That alone is horrible for the body.

>

> Go to the forum I mentioned and ask questions there.

>

> He may not have been gaining before and I doubt this has anything to do with

quitting aspartame.

>

> They have diabetics there and can tell you how to have a better diet.

>

> No fruit at all for sure. NO breads and or pastas. Vegies are fine.

>

> Meds can mess up stuff too.

>

> Barb

>

> --- In aspartame@yahoogrou ps.com, "kewltek38" <teklady43@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Well, he does monitor his BGLs ... The only thing he has changed is removing

aspartame from his diet ... he is pretty good at monitoring his body ... this is

what is so frustrating, cause he hasn't changed his eating habits, low sugar

intake, but he is gaining weight fairly quickly .... I told him we can go to his

doctor ... some doctors laugh at the very fact that aspartame is a problem, and

some actually recommend these diet drinks are Okay for Diabetics... .Well, I am

going to encourage him to drink more water...and get more raw vegetables for him

to snack on during the day...He's sort of limited himself to the banana, apple,

and orange, but I don't think that is enough. Thanx for your advice.

> >

> >

> > --- In aspartame@yahoogrou ps.com, "Bill Burghart / Darrell StJohn -

ELMHAVEN" <elmhaven@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Some of the 'oral' medications for type II diabetics are counterproductive

(and even CAUSE weight gain while maintaining BGLs). One of the biggest

offenders I know of is Actos. Other personal experiences with

Metformin/Glucophag e have been the same with extended use.

> > >

> > > Each person is different, each person's body chemistry will be and react

differently, even to the same medications. Men and Women are different. There

are almost too many factors to even think of enumerating.

> > >

> > > Aspartame is hidden in so many foods -- one of the key things is to learn

to read the labels and learn the hidden places where the poison is slipped in,

for no good reason other than MONEY and profits.

> > >

> > > Many diabetics' bodies need to "learn to burn" again, and that takes a

long process. Exercise, water, and lots of 'whole foods' and raw veggies, and

certain carbs/starches will soon become part of your body's leaning curve and it

will (or can) get better.

> > >

> > > We still need to work with our doctors and maintain our health -- but also

WE are responsible for checking into what the doctors tell us, getting the facts

correctly, and working from there. Medicine is far from an exact science, and

any good doctor will tell you that straight up -- those that tell you they know

the answer, BE AFRAID!

> > >

> > > Best of luck - time is your friend (and your husband's).. . give it some

time. Check his BGLs often and learn which foods are doing what to or for him.

Listen to your body (and he to his), it will many times show you what you need

to do--you just have to learn to read it.

> > >

> > > Bill.

> > >

> > >

> > > ELMHAVEN

> > > *Purebred Nubian Dairy Goats - Polled Genetics

> > > Visit our website - http://www.elmhaven .com/

> > >

> > > - - -

> > >

> > >

> > > From: kewltek38

> > > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:08 AM

> > > To: aspartame@yahoogrou ps.com

> > > Subject: [Aspartame Support] Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time

as me-he's gaining weight???

> > >

> > >

> > > My husband and I quit aspertame products a week and a half ago, my husband

is diabetic, I am not. I am losing weight, however, he is

> > > gaining ... he is very discouraged, he has not changed his eating

> > > habits ... he's thinking maybe its okay for him to drink fruit drinks

> > > with sucrulose ... I told him to give it more time ... maybe his body

> > > needs to adjust, he feels like his metabolism is slowing down ... I

mentioned that maybe aspartame tricks his body into thinking its real sugar,

maybe thats why his metabolism was higher before. I have fibromyalgia myself,

and have noticed improvements already ... we both noticed the fog lift right

away ... my pain level has improved 50% already. Maybe someone knows why he is

gaining weight, as I cannot find anything on the net about "gaining weight"

after removing aspertame.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

> > > PLEASE TRY AND RECRUIT MEMBERS - SEND THEM TO http://groups. yahoo.com/

group/aspartame/

> > >

> > > PRINT OUT THIS FLIER AND HAND IT OUT TO PEOPLE: http://www.ojinaga.

com/aspartame/

> > >

> > > CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE!! http://presidiotex. com/aspartame

> > >

> > > ASPARTAME BUMPER STICKER http://ojinaga. com/bumpersticke rs/freesticker/

> > >

> > > to unsubscribe from this list, send a blank e-mail to: aspartame-unsubscri

be@yahoogroups. com

> > >

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> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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On Jul 12, 2009, btleah <btleah@...> wrote:

What I learned is you can't explain it to some.  It is not an easy lifestyle. It

is in other ways.



Barb





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Re: [Aspartame Support] Re: Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time as

me-he's gaining weight???



The lowest in sugar of fruits is granny smith apples.  My son had a terrible

case of candida and a candida diet is good for diabetics because it is low on

the glycemic index.  One reason meds make you gain weight is because they are

poison and the body recognizes this and holds water in the body so the chemicals

or pharmaceuticals do not kill you.  Also it takes three months to rid the body

of any artifical sweetener.  Pastas, breads, cereals are all carbohydrates that

turn into sugar.  People need to get educated about what is a simple carbo and

a complex carbo.  My brother in  law thinks that he can have all sorts of crap

out of boxes and he is a diabetic wreck.  His  doctor tells him that instant

breakfast and glycerna bars are good for him and a bowl of cereal for

breakfast---sure it helps the doctor retain him as a patient.  I couldn't even

eat that much garbage for breakfast and I am not diabetic.  ALL of that turns

into pure sugar in the bloodstream---but he TRUSTS his doctors................it

drives me nuts.  Those things are totally full of worthless calories and

chemicals.   Â





Patty