Often getting better is true but carbs for a diabetic is not a good thing but
you have a point.

Barb

--- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Burghart / Darrell StJohn - ELMHAVEN"
<elmhaven@...> wrote:
>
> We won't agree on diabetic diets (nutrition and carbs). It is all DEGREES.
To what degree the pancreas has ceased or interrupted functioning.
>
> Many foods, and yes this includes carbs, in more raw and natural diets are
beneficial -- again, depending on the DEGREE of the pancreas (insulin) action.
>
> To lump any one food group is just like Doctors telling us it is OK to drink
the **diet** poisons on the market.
>
> Each body is different and each person must learn to listen to their body --
the sooner we all do, the sooner we all have an ***Opportunity*** to help
ourselves and our health.
>
> Things can and do get better, but not without effort and certainly not by
doing nothing.
>
> Bill.
>
>
> ELMHAVEN
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>
> From: btleah
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:01 PM
> To: aspartame@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Aspartame Support] Re: Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time
as me-he's gaining weight???
>
>
> You said why he is gaining here.
>
> Banana and being a diabetic. That alone is horrible for the body.
>
> Go to the forum I mentioned and ask questions there.
>
> He may not have been gaining before and I doubt this has anything to do with
quitting aspartame.
>
> They have diabetics there and can tell you how to have a better diet.
>
> No fruit at all for sure. NO breads and or pastas. Vegies are fine.
>
> Meds can mess up stuff too.
>
> Barb
>
> --- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "kewltek38" <teklady43@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, he does monitor his BGLs ... The only thing he has changed is removing
aspartame from his diet ... he is pretty good at monitoring his body ... this is
what is so frustrating, cause he hasn't changed his eating habits, low sugar
intake, but he is gaining weight fairly quickly .... I told him we can go to his
doctor ... some doctors laugh at the very fact that aspartame is a problem, and
some actually recommend these diet drinks are Okay for Diabetics....Well, I am
going to encourage him to drink more water...and get more raw vegetables for him
to snack on during the day...He's sort of limited himself to the banana, apple,
and orange, but I don't think that is enough. Thanx for your advice.
> >
> >
> > --- In aspartame@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Burghart / Darrell StJohn -
ELMHAVEN" <elmhaven@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Some of the 'oral' medications for type II diabetics are counterproductive
(and even CAUSE weight gain while maintaining BGLs). One of the biggest
offenders I know of is Actos. Other personal experiences with
Metformin/Glucophage have been the same with extended use.
> > >
> > > Each person is different, each person's body chemistry will be and react
differently, even to the same medications. Men and Women are different. There
are almost too many factors to even think of enumerating.
> > >
> > > Aspartame is hidden in so many foods -- one of the key things is to learn
to read the labels and learn the hidden places where the poison is slipped in,
for no good reason other than MONEY and profits.
> > >
> > > Many diabetics' bodies need to "learn to burn" again, and that takes a
long process. Exercise, water, and lots of 'whole foods' and raw veggies, and
certain carbs/starches will soon become part of your body's leaning curve and it
will (or can) get better.
> > >
> > > We still need to work with our doctors and maintain our health -- but also
WE are responsible for checking into what the doctors tell us, getting the facts
correctly, and working from there. Medicine is far from an exact science, and
any good doctor will tell you that straight up -- those that tell you they know
the answer, BE AFRAID!
> > >
> > > Best of luck - time is your friend (and your husband's)... give it some
time. Check his BGLs often and learn which foods are doing what to or for him.
Listen to your body (and he to his), it will many times show you what you need
to do--you just have to learn to read it.
> > >
> > > Bill.
> > >
> > >
> > > ELMHAVEN
> > > *Purebred Nubian Dairy Goats - Polled Genetics
> > > Visit our website - http://www.elmhaven.com/
> > >
> > > - - -
> > >
> > >
> > > From: kewltek38
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:08 AM
> > > To: aspartame@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Aspartame Support] Husband is Diabetic-quit aspertame same time
as me-he's gaining weight???
> > >
> > >
> > > My husband and I quit aspertame products a week and a half ago, my husband
is diabetic, I am not. I am losing weight, however, he is
> > > gaining ... he is very discouraged, he has not changed his eating
> > > habits ... he's thinking maybe its okay for him to drink fruit drinks
> > > with sucrulose ... I told him to give it more time ... maybe his body
> > > needs to adjust, he feels like his metabolism is slowing down ... I
mentioned that maybe aspartame tricks his body into thinking its real sugar,
maybe thats why his metabolism was higher before. I have fibromyalgia myself,
and have noticed improvements already ... we both noticed the fog lift right
away ... my pain level has improved 50% already. Maybe someone knows why he is
gaining weight, as I cannot find anything on the net about "gaining weight"
after removing aspertame.
> > >
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