ASH-L is a mailing list which grew out of the newsgroup alt.suicide.holiday but which allows for trolls and harrassers to be removed. ASH-L is not connected with the newsgroup, except in sharing a pro-choice position on individuals' right to suicide. New members are moderated until the moderators are satisfied that they do not intend to harass or spam the members.

To protect members' privacy, there are NO ARCHIVES in this group; that's why the message list says "No messages for this group." Messages can ONLY be read/received by email. People who join and set their preferences to "No E-mail" will periodically be removed. (Members who need to temporarily set the group to "no e-mail" should let the moderators know, to avoid being unsubscribed.)

SEARCHING FOR A SUPPORT GROUP? If you are seeking a conventional supportgroup that will help you move away from your suicidal feelings, or because you need to discuss your grief over a loved one's suicide, ASH-L may not be the right place for you. To request a broad, balanced list of links to alternative groups and websites, please e-mail the moderators at ash-l-owner@yahoogroups.com

ASH-L is NOT a suicide methods discussion group, though such discussions will come up from time to time. Despite some sleazy journalism, people who join wanting to be told about a fast/easy/painless/certain method would be better off searching elsewhere on the Internet to see for themselves there are no "perfect methods."

New members who post requests for methods advice should not expect those posts to be approved by the moderators. Any methods information that does get posted here is strictly the non-expert opinion of the individual posters, and cannot be assumed accurate.