RE: [apeced] Carers website and question about systemic immunosuppression
Hi Vicki,
We live in Australia and so I’m names of drugs are
different which is really annoying! The retinoic acid was prescribed by
James’s cornea specialist – Dr Males (pronounced Ma-less) at the
Sydney Eye Hospital – I’m sure he’d be happy to talk to other
specialists if your specialist wants to (just google Sydney Eye Hospital for
the number J). The drops are 0.01% Retinoic Acid – and as you can
imagine from reading their name they hurt big! James has them every
second night just before bed because he can’t see for a while after they
are put in.
Hope this helps,
Liz
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[mailto:apeced@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vicki Robson Sent: Friday, 31 October 2008 6:39 AM To: apeced@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [apeced] Carers website and question about systemic
immunosuppression
HI Liz,
My son also has the eye condition associated with APS. He
uses a steriod drop along with cyclosporin(Restasis). I have never
heard of Retinoic Acid. Is this something new? I would love to find out more
about it so we can share it with his cornea specialist.
Thanks very much,
Vicki
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From: Liz and James Yarker
<theyarkers@...>
Subject: RE: [apeced] Carers website and question about systemic
immunosuppression
To: apeced@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 11:28 PM
Hi Jennifer,
James has changed from hydrocortisone
to prednisone – much better on the prednisone as he isn’t going
low all the time. Thanks for the advice of seeing a rheumatologist
– will ask to do that before doing anything else. I’m in
Australia so eye drops are probably called different things – but James
is on the following eye drops: Predsol (0.5% prednisolone) , Cellufresh
(artificial tears), Lacrilube (a thicker version of the artificial tears) and
Retinoic Acid which apparently helps reverse the limbal stem cell
failure. The photosensitivity is defiantly better than it was in
February, but his vision fluctuates wildly – 20/200 one week and then
20/16 the next.
James has a candida infection on one
nail but he hasn’t tried the solutions you mentioned – although
he might now J.
Liz
From: apeced@yahoogroups. com [mailto:apeced@
yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Orange, Jennifer Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 3:10 AM To: apeced@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [apeced] Carers website and question about systemic
immunosuppression
Hi Liz,
Julia is on Cellcept aka MMF as a systemic immunosuppressant. Julia was
previously on imuran. I know that other people have also been on cyclosporin.
It is a big step to start immunosuppressants as it puts you at risk for
infections. However, Julia's symptoms were so severe that she was stuck in
hospital dependent on IV calcium because she had malabsorption. Our medical
team agreed to do a 30 day trial of high dose steroids (prednisone) to see if
the steroids would work. High dose steroids suppress the immune system and work
much faster than long term immunosuppressant drugs, but are not as safe in
the long term. The experiment worked. Julia made major improvements within a
week and got off the IV calcium in 10 days. She was discharged from hospital
within the month.
On MMF her oral calcium dose has been halved, she is salivating and tearing
more, her photosensitivity is a bit improved and she is no longer anemic.
She was hospitalized in May for 6 days with the flu, but recovered well after
that.
I personally would talk to a rheumatologist about systemic immunosuppression
as they are the experts in this field. (My sister is a rheumi, so there is my
bias). Julia's meds levels follow those of a child with lupus.
If James' eyes are the problem, have you tried cyclosporin eye drops
(Restasis)? They are a local, non-systemic approach.
Could I ask what meds James has switched to for Addison's?
Also, Julia has candida infections on her nails and vinegar water soaks have
not worked. I spoke to a herbalist last week who said that white vinegar
would not help, but that unpasteurized apple cider vinegar might. She
recommended topical application of neem oil or oil of oregano. Has anyone
tried these?
Thanks,
Jennifer
Jennifer Orange
Torys LLP
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to send an email about a new social network for Carers.
The new site is http://www.carers.
ning.com <http://www.carers.
ning.com> if enough people who care
for people with APECED join we can start a group for us all :).
Hope everyone is well. James has started on new Addison's meds and
that has made his diabetes control much better. The question I have
is that the new eye specialist is talking about starting some kind of
systemic immunosupression. He didn't say much more than that as he
wanted to talk to James's Endo first. So I just wanted to know if
other people are on systemic immunosuppession, and what they think
about it. It sounds a bit scarey to me.
Thanks,
Liz
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