Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
anosmia · Mailing list and resources for people lacking the sense of smell. This list replaces the former Anosmia Resource Center.
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Show off your group to the world. Share a photo of your group with us.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Anyone know anything about Dr. Henkin's clinic in Wash., D.C.?   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #12930 of 21397 |
RE: [anosmia] Re: Anyone know anything about Dr. Henkin's clinic in Wash., D.C.?

I don't blame you. Enough said on the subject.
Either give the man a try or find a different doctor.
No matter who you go to (inspite of the expense),
there is no miracle cure.








--- mick.o'hare@... wrote:

> OK, I'm outta here.
>
> Preconceptions are unlikely to be changed on either
> side. Readers of this
> site will have drawn their own conclusions and come
> down on either side, or
> just ended up plain bored.
>
> Sorry to have been incoherent.
>
> Mick
>
> > ----------
> > From: anosmia@yahoogroups.com on behalf of
> iccedric
> > Reply To: anosmia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2005 0:06 AM
> > To: anosmia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [anosmia] Re: Anyone know anything about
> Dr. Henkin's clinic
> > in Wash., D.C.?
> >
> > Did you read your message {shown below} before you
> sent it? In my
> > view, it crosses the line from your usual,
> incessant Henkin
> > cheerleading to incoherence!
> >
> > You acknowledge that it would be "beneficial" for
> Henkin to publicly
> > offer information about his success rate, but then
> you issue a thinly
> > veiled threat to those deign to doubt his 65%
> figure*. Duh! If
> > Henkin producing verifiable statistics about a
> medical treatment HE
> > offers isn't "within the realms of medicine" what
> da hell is?
> >
> > You're constantly doing Henkin's bidding on this
> forum. And you can
> > produce, at will and out of the ether, pro-Henkin
> testimonials. So,
> > why can't you prevail upon the good doctor to
> publish his treatment
> > results statistics? After all, it would
> authoritatively answer the
> > question you're asked "more than any other".
> >
> > C'mon Mick, put down the pom-poms, pick up the
> phone and ask Henkin
> > to put an end to this vexing and divisive
> controversy by simply
> > publishing his results. Tell him not to fret
> about the "double
> > blind" issue. We're currently totally blind!
>
> >
> >
> >
> > * "Henkin reports that about 65% of patients
> treated for low levels
> > of cAMP with theophylline recover either fully or
> significantly
> > towards normal smell function."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In anosmia@yahoogroups.com, mick.o'hare@r...
> wrote:
> > > I guess it is now incumbent on us all to merely
> draw our own
> > conclusions
> > > about Dr Henkin. You are obviously unconvinced -
> and equally
> > obviously
> > > entitled to that view - others take the opposite
> tack. many more
> > will be
> > > ambivalent.
> > >
> > > One thing I would argue in Dr Henkin's defence
> is that many, many
> > people ask
> > > what chance they have of success. It is the one
> question I am asked
> > more
> > > than any other. For him to have that information
> can only be
> > beneficial. If
> > > you accuse him of inflating his figures then
> that is, I imagine,
> > beyond the
> > > realms of medicine and into legal territory.
> This is a printed,
> > worldwide
> > > forum that can be read by anybody.
> > >
> > > You assumption that his figures are vastly
> inflated is just that, an
> > > assumption, is it not? Or is there evidence?
> > >
> > > Mick
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: anosmia@yahoogroups.com on behalf of
> iccedric
> > > > Reply To: anosmia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 21:34 PM
> > > > To: anosmia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [anosmia] Re: Anyone know anything
> about Dr. Henkin's
> > clinic
> > > > in Wash., D.C.?
> > > >
> > > > Franni
> > > >
> > > > It is becoming increasingly difficult to
> believe that you are
> > missing
> > > > the point other than intentionally, relative
> to "guarantees" of
> > > > success, as furnished by Henkin.
> > > >
> > > > So, let me clarify the issue for once and for
> all: I, for one,
> > did
> > > > not anticipate nor request a guarantee of
> success. Indeed, I was
> > > > quite taken aback when Henkin spontaneously
> volunteered it! He
> > > > said "across the board" he could help 65% of
> anosmics and given
> > my
> > > > description OVER THE PHONE he forecasted an
> 80% probability of
> > > > success!
> > > >
> > > > Now, on one hand, I'm happy for you, Mick and
> the others who
> > > > attribute their recoveries to Henkin's
> treatment. On the other
> > hand,
> > > > however, given the fearful and desperate state
> people are in when
> > > > they first call Henkin, I feel it's reckless
> and ultimately cruel
> > to
> > > > tease them with what I suspect are drastically
> inflated numbers.
> > > >
> > > > Many, many brilliant and dedicated medical
> professionals have
> > drawn
> > > > conclusions about anosmia and its treatment
> which are virtually
> > the
> > > > opposite of Henkin's. Henkin has chosen to
> crawl onto the limb
> > upon
> > > > which he is now perched. Therefore, the
> burden of proof is
> > clealy
> > > > upon him. After all, he's the one who claims
> everyone who
> > disagrees
> > > > with him is wrong and he's right!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In anosmia@yahoogroups.com, "franni_nm"
> <franni_nm@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Bill,
> > > > >
> > > > > Several of us (that is, Dr. Henkin's
> successes) have posted
> > this
> > > > past
> > > > > week, which I think would qualify as "hard
> data." While I know
> > Mick,
> > > > > myself, and others want to be supportive and
> offer information,
> > when
> > > > > does it finally become enough?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm also baffled by the fact that people
> expect guarantees from
> > Dr.
> > > > > Henkin when they wouldn't typically expect
> guarantees for a
> > medical
> > > > > procedure. I know of no doctor that
> absolutely guarantees
> > success.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be happy to share my
> information/hard data with you if
>
=== message truncated ===


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com



Wed Jun 1, 2005 1:20 pm

kathykerrkur...
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #12930 of 21397 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

OK, I'm outta here. Preconceptions are unlikely to be changed on either side. Readers of this site will have drawn their own conclusions and come down on...
mick.o'hare@...
mickohare
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
8:47 am

I don't blame you. Enough said on the subject. Either give the man a try or find a different doctor. No matter who you go to (inspite of the expense), there...
kathy kurland
kathykerrkur...
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
1:21 pm

... None on my part Bill. I'm just a patient who was suffering until I had some success (as my FAQ states it might have been coincidental) and wanted others to...
mick.o'hare@...
mickohare
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
8:50 am

... Just had to walk away from the computer to calm down a bit there... didn't know whether to scream or laugh. What the hell, for what it's worth, no I'm not...
mick.o'hare@...
mickohare
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
8:56 am

good advise, Jan. ... <JanetPinfield@...> ... __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with...
kathy kurland
kathykerrkur...
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
1:19 pm

Thanks also Jan. Coming from a neutral I'm thankful for your note of reason. Mick ... r===================== DISCLAIMER ====================== This message is...
mick.o'hare@...
mickohare
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
1:26 pm

You know what, this person needs to quit stressing out over this. Whatever is causing your anosmia, it isn't life threatening. Do the best you know how to...
kathy kurland
kathykerrkur...
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
1:41 pm

Thanks Kathy. M ... r===================== DISCLAIMER ====================== This message is intended only for the use of the person(s) (\"Intended...
mick.o'hare@...
mickohare
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
1:28 pm

BTW Delighted top say I'll be on holiday (UK)/vacation (US) from Friday. That'll produce a hiatus in the heated discussion for sure... If anybody has a...
mick.o'hare@...
mickohare
Offline Send Email
Jun 1, 2005
1:54 pm
 First  |  |  Next > Last 
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help