This is a great subject...My experience first came when I was 3 or 4 month sober trying to find a sponcer..well the guy I picked was someone I thought I could...
Couldn't have said it better myself. I commend you for sticking up for the newcomer. I wish someone had of looked out for me like that. Even just a quiet word...
The groups I've attended take a dim view of 13th stepping because it does interfere with recovery. However, there is no means of control. Nobody is in charge....
Its not obvious for me. I am confused Who are the sickest people? Maybe I misunderstood I thought you were referring to those who have mental health issues? I...
Aww shucks I read your original message wrong. It is no excuse, but I was beginning to feel as if no-one agreed with me on anything in here. Today though I...
I'm sure it does. I know of one meeting where it was fairly prevalent. I avoided that one just because I didn't like their sobriety. At most of the meetings I...
No I don't think that counts either. I understand what you are saying and agree. I don't really believe that it is accepted in any group yet it still goes on. ...
Yes, I too have had bad experiences in the rooms. But in my case, this was usually because I failed to heed the advice of friends and sponsors who suggested...
Does anyone have any experience with SOS, Rational Recovery (AVRT) or SMART Recovery? I've read a little about them and like what they have to offer. Here's...
Someone was talking about it on another list that I frequent. I think they were just starting. That was the first I've heard of it. I did a search and came up...
I copied this from another list because I though it was cocl. **************************************** God, make me brave for life; oh, braver than this. Let...
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12 Step Coercion Watch <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12-Step_Coercion_Watch/> 12-Step Coercion Watch is a discussion list for those concerned about the...
DAILY PRAYER God, bless this day for me and for all of us. Make it a day in which we grow more in Knowing and in carrying out your will. Dear God, I spend as...
Well, thank you so much for your extensive research. However, I am looking for any kind of personal experience with any of the other recovery path choices....
Thank you, God, for all you've given to me, for all you've taken from me, and for all you've left me. A man in the groups I attended in early sobriety used to...
I have had experience with both LifeRing and SOS. SOS I found to be too rigid. The Yahoo Group is pretty argumentative. I left it for that very reason....
Alcoholics Victorious is a church based 12 step program that has groups all over the country. I know what you mean about the people who are forced to go. They...
I use to think that too about people being forced to be at meetings..But I was told that it is planting the seed of recovery and maybe some one will hear their...
OMG!!! This is one of the most shocking statements I have ever heard in a recovery group. I think that is an awful thing to say! People are coerced into...
OMG!!!!!! Sorry you feel that way..But I know people who were mandated and hated it only to return when they knew it was what they needed and to try what ever...
It is not just AA or nothing. I am trying to empower people ~ not tear them down! If someone drives drunk repeatedly, yank their license and throw their ass in...