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`Loss of control' is an unfalsifiable, hence unscientific, hypothesis.

I don't believe that addiction is a disease. Cancer is a disease.
It takes over the body and destroys it. Alzheimer's is a disease. It
takes over the body and the mind and it ruins them. Parkinson's is a
disease. It takes over the body and the mind and makes them shake and
it wrecks them.

Addiction is not a disease. Not even close. Diseases are destructive
medical conditions that human beings do not control. They do not
choose when to have them, they do not choose when to get rid of them.
They do not choose the type of the disease they would like or in what
form it is delivered, they do not choose how much of it they would
like or at what time they would like it.

A disease is a medical condition that must be dealt with using medical
technology. It cannot be dealt with using a group or a set of steps.
It cannot be dealt with by talking about it. It cannot be dealt with
by having family members attend three-day seminars about it or by
reading books with blue covers or saying prayers about serenity.

"The idea that addiction is a disease," is the greatest medical hoax
since the idea that masturbation would make you go blind."

Although genetics and a genetic link may be undeniable, everything
about us is genetic, and everything about our physical selves is
predetermined by a genetic link. If an individual is fat but wants to
be thin, it is not a genetic disease. If someone is stupid, but wants
to be smart, it is not a genetic disease. If a drunk is a drunk, but
doesn't want to be drunk any more, it is not a genetic disease.

Addiction is a decision. An individual wants something, whatever that
something is, and makes a decision to get it. Once they have it, the
make the decision to take it. If they take it too often, that process
of decision making gets out of control, and if it gets too far out of
control, it becomes an addiction. At that point the decision is a
difficult one to make, but it is still a decision. Do I or don't I.
Am I going to take it or not take it. It's a decision. Each
and every time. It's a decision. String enough of those decisions
together and you set a course and you set a standard of living.
Addict or human. Genetics do not make that call. They are just an
excuse. They allow people to say it wasn't my fault I'm genetically
predisposed. It wasn't my fault I was pre-programmed from day one.
It wasn't my fault I didn't have any say in this matter. Bullshit

Genetics is an interesting theory. It probably holds some weight. I
can accept it for what I feel it is, which is a possibility. I won't
accept it as a root cause, because I think it's a cop out, and because
I don't think it does me any good to accept anything other than myself
and my own weakness as a root cause. I did everything I did. I made
the decisions to do it all. The only way I'm going to get better is
if I accept responsibility for these decisions to be either an Addict
or not to be an addict.

I could say I'm flawed in my genetic make-up, that I have this disease
and my addictions are caused by the presence of it, but I think that's
a load of shit. I'm a victim of nothing but myself, just as I believe
that most people with this so-called disease aren't victims of
anything other than themselves. If you want to call that philosophy
stubbornness, go right ahead. I call it being reasonable. I call it
the acceptance of my own problems and my own weaknesses with honour
and dignity. I call it getting better."






Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:02 am

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Sorry , but I don't understand why we are complicating things with this discussion about whether or not It is a disease. It was decided by the AMA that...
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