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Hi Jim......I agree with you...he knows his family will eventualy
take him in and feel sorry for him...but if they just stand back and
let him see what its like being really alone in the world..he MAY
change...Kathy....you said your dropping him off at a the rehab
center AGAIN...why not let him go there by him self...if he wants the
help...he will walk there to get it....Some times you have to be hard
nosed so they'll understand you mean bussiness ....I know how ya
feel...but you can't fix him...only he can....PS...Jim ..I like these
3 rules... (1)surrender, (2) acceptance & (3) willingness,...Thats
really all he needs to REALLY get it.....all other stuff will fall
into place....Loveya...Mike

















--- In anewbeginning2@yahoogroups.com, "Jim C." <jimnctltx@t...>
wrote:
> Oh he's not gonna freeze on the street. Maybe he what he needs is a
> little time on skid row & the realization that his days of
> manipulating his family are over.
>
> Nothing like a night under a bridge figuring out the ones who love
> him are tired of his crap.
>
> No matter how many tools you may have, unless you have the 3 most
> important ones, (1)surrender, (2) acceptance & (3) willingness,
none
> of the others will ever be used.
> Jim
>
>
>
> --- "Kathy" <itsmeekathy@y...> wrote:
> > How true. Wish I would have had this to give to my brother in
law
> > who relapsed...yet again. He made 31 days sober and blew it a
few
> > days ago. Since then.....He's gotten kicked out of his sober
> house,
> > he's slept in a garage, in a car, he's gotten a
> > DUI, and open bottle ticket(He wasn't even driving, he was pulled
> > over sleeping), his parents car impounded. He fell drunken on
ice,
> > knocked himself out, got a concussion, lacerations on his face
and
> > glasses and spent the night in the hospital. This all in not
quite
> > 3 days. We are waiting for
> > Monday to throw him back into a treatment center(for little cost)
> > he's already spent 2 other times at. I don't know why we
are....he
> > has all the tools he needs. He just doesn't want it yet. I
guess
> > it's just because we've been having such extreamly cold, snowy,
> > freezing weather that we feel sorry for him....and NO ONE will
take
> > him. The shelters are full, My sister is less than out of money
> and
> > morgaged to the hilt from him, and what else is there to do but
> > leave him to freeze on the street?
> > Personally...I'd really like to give him another
concussion....but
> I
> > heard that could be a really bad thing. ;) Right now he's at
his
> > parents and they want him out yesterday! Soooo sad.
> >
> > Hugs
> > Kathy
> > --- In anewbeginning2@yahoogroups.com, "Jim C." <jimnctltx@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > 1. I decided I could handle drugs and or alcohol if other
people
> > > would just quit trying to run my life.




Mon Jan 5, 2004 4:38 pm

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1. I decided I could handle drugs and or alcohol if other people would just quit trying to run my life. 2. I firmly believed that there was no Power greater...
Jim C.
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Jan 3, 2004
5:59 pm

How true. Wish I would have had this to give to my brother in law who relapsed...yet again. He made 31 days sober and blew it a few days ago. Since...
Kathy
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Jan 5, 2004
12:11 am

Hey Everyone, Its been a long time since I have talked to everyone. Buried my dad over the holiday. spent the last three weeks taking care of him with Mom and...
ANGELA KELLY
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Jan 5, 2004
1:08 am

Hi Angel. So sorry about your Dad. It really does sound like he is in a better place. Stay safe in the home you are in...the atmosphere sounds kind of...
Kathy
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Jan 6, 2004
7:25 am

Oh he's not gonna freeze on the street. Maybe he what he needs is a little time on skid row & the realization that his days of manipulating his family are...
Jim C.
jimnctltx
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Jan 5, 2004
3:12 pm

Hi Jim......I agree with you...he knows his family will eventualy take him in and feel sorry for him...but if they just stand back and let him see what its...
rednek53
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Jan 5, 2004
4:38 pm

I remember well the time when my family told me that they loved me but they would no longer allow me to infect them with my insanity. The rule was simple. Your...
Jim C.
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Jan 6, 2004
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