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#12807 From: marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2004 12:11 am
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Re: Can someone help me
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I will mention these meds to my psych when I see him thank you for the input god bless

marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...> wrote:
I am on triliptal and clonzapam.  I know I am not being propalby medicated.  And that is waht started this whole bizaree cycle again.  My sister is on what you are and it makes her tired but she is high functioning at her job.  All I can say is we cannot just take what the doctors want us too. We have control ..   I read in my research that depression can be caused by a lack of carbs.  I beleive that and also have your thyroid checked out.  If you are hormonal then that could elevate your symptoms even more.  You take care keep in touch. Always Marlene

christina <reaverwoman@...> wrote:
plenty of us take meds for psychosis!

there is a common one that will help with his sleep too as it has
drowsy properties...it's called seroquel.

i think your instincts on what to do are exactly on the mark!


love, christina.



--- In alicesbipolarchat@yahoogroups.com, "amyb1569" <amyb1569@c...>
wrote:
> Can someone help me with a question I have. I have thought of
> nothing sice beginning to worry about some behavior in my DH. I am
> tierd and have spent hrs and hrs online trying to find some answers,
> only to find a bunch of things that tell totally different answers
> about things.. My Dh is dealing with Bi polar..we have our ups and
> downs but it is getting better and we are making steps forward. But
> I have noticed some odd behavior last few days..Such as him saying
> odd things..like maybe he is confused or he is thinking off..he is
> not hearing voices ect. Just he gets confused and will say things
> that really make me feel he is having some mild psychosis.
> My DH is on aderell xr and lamactial 200 mg
> He has been having what I would describe as some psychosis
> behavior. I will say after trying to read about this online what he
> does have seems like mild phychosis..but heck even mild is scary to
> watch and deal with.
> My question to you is this. I did read that aderell may not be good
> for a bi polor person that has an eposide of this. He is on the
> adderel for addh. But I also found some sites that suggested adding
> a low dose antipsychosis medication may help.
> I plan to call his dr monday and talk with him.
> I found a great site that spoke about steps to treat this ..the
> first said control psychosis..then to treat sleep issue..( he has
> not been sleeping well at all..) I also notice that the eposies come
> more often at night before bed or when is trying to sleep..
> So I will call the Dr monday and explain to him we need to get DH
> sleeping..then mention to him that the sites I read about suggest he
> might need to go back on his klopin or zanaz ect. he went off these
> last week..
> But what do any of you think about adding a psychosis meds..a low
> does one.
> Is anyone here on a med like adderell and lamactial and started a
> low dose psychosis medication?




#12806 From: marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2004 12:09 am
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Re: new member, marlene
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thank you for welcoming me.  I truly need this so bad.

marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...> wrote:
I am so relieved to actually find someplace to talk about this.  I really need support right now and I know I trust each and everyone of the people on this line to make a sincere effort to help me. thank ou

christina <reaverwoman@...> wrote:
welcome marlene, i think you have found the place you need!


love, christina.


--- In alicesbipolarchat@yahoogroups.com, marlene rehrer
<bonzo332000@y...> wrote:
> I am looking forward to chatting with others to help me deal with
the problems of this disease.  I have had it all my life .  I truly
want to share my feelings and express who I really am without being
judged.  I need someone to understand me.




#12805 From: marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2004 12:02 am
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Re: Can someone help me
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I am on triliptal and clonzapam.  I know I am not being propalby medicated.  And that is waht started this whole bizaree cycle again.  My sister is on what you are and it makes her tired but she is high functioning at her job.  All I can say is we cannot just take what the doctors want us too. We have control ..   I read in my research that depression can be caused by a lack of carbs.  I beleive that and also have your thyroid checked out.  If you are hormonal then that could elevate your symptoms even more.  You take care keep in touch. Always Marlene

christina <reaverwoman@...> wrote:
plenty of us take meds for psychosis!

there is a common one that will help with his sleep too as it has
drowsy properties...it's called seroquel.

i think your instincts on what to do are exactly on the mark!


love, christina.



--- In alicesbipolarchat@yahoogroups.com, "amyb1569" <amyb1569@c...>
wrote:
> Can someone help me with a question I have. I have thought of
> nothing sice beginning to worry about some behavior in my DH. I am
> tierd and have spent hrs and hrs online trying to find some answers,
> only to find a bunch of things that tell totally different answers
> about things.. My Dh is dealing with Bi polar..we have our ups and
> downs but it is getting better and we are making steps forward. But
> I have noticed some odd behavior last few days..Such as him saying
> odd things..like maybe he is confused or he is thinking off..he is
> not hearing voices ect. Just he gets confused and will say things
> that really make me feel he is having some mild psychosis.
> My DH is on aderell xr and lamactial 200 mg
> He has been having what I would describe as some psychosis
> behavior. I will say after trying to read about this online what he
> does have seems like mild phychosis..but heck even mild is scary to
> watch and deal with.
> My question to you is this. I did read that aderell may not be good
> for a bi polor person that has an eposide of this. He is on the
> adderel for addh. But I also found some sites that suggested adding
> a low dose antipsychosis medication may help.
> I plan to call his dr monday and talk with him.
> I found a great site that spoke about steps to treat this ..the
> first said control psychosis..then to treat sleep issue..( he has
> not been sleeping well at all..) I also notice that the eposies come
> more often at night before bed or when is trying to sleep..
> So I will call the Dr monday and explain to him we need to get DH
> sleeping..then mention to him that the sites I read about suggest he
> might need to go back on his klopin or zanaz ect. he went off these
> last week..
> But what do any of you think about adding a psychosis meds..a low
> does one.
> Is anyone here on a med like adderell and lamactial and started a
> low dose psychosis medication?



#12804 From: marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2004 12:08 am
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Lamictal
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God bless you too. I have lived with this illness all my life it runs in my family and If I can help anyone I will. love me

Bonnie and Daniel <lost_inalaska@...> wrote:
thanks marlene--
email anytime. i would enjoy your company
God bless you,
bonnie

marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...> wrote:
Thank you so much for your support .  I know I do love him and it must be hard to be married to someone like me.  The worst part is that I am so loveable. I really appreciate your sharing with me.  Please feel free to email me anytime I would love to help you really.

Bonnie and Daniel <lost_inalaska@...> wrote:
marlene-
 
i am wife to bp. i understand how hard it is form the other side.
 
when we have hit our worst points, the only thing that truly helps is for each of us to stop being mean, stop being hurt, or angry, and take 5 or 10 minutes to be quiet. we agree that we are not going to hurt each other again--because we agree we both want this marriage to last.
 
we have come through times of long seperation due to his anger from manic times, depressed times. he is rapid cycle, and has mixed states. the emotions he experiences then are out of line with reality at times. it has caused a great deal of pain in this marriage.
 
but the bottom line is that we both agree that we love each other, recognize our love as God driven, our lives as Faith driven, and our marriage as God ordained. knowing that we are able to stop ourselves before one or the other of us goes out the door. we apologize, and each time we reach that danger zone, we are more cautious, as we KNOW how devastating it would be for iether of us to lose what we have together.
 
its hard! no joke!! it takes a conscious decision. one stated over and over out loud in front of anyone who will listen. we declare it to the world, so we are not tempted to change our minds in weak moments. we have built support systems to help in bad times. each of us has someplace or someone to whom we can go when having a bad time with this: for support, encouragement, guidance, redirection. these people and places are those which are already determined to be what will guide us back to a strong marriage. it has not happened by accident. we decided this would keep us together, and so far it is working. better and better all the time. we do not fight as we used to. the issues that used to trigger BOTH of us do not have the power they had in the past. we sought counseling for the ones we trhought we could not manage alone, or the ones we saw were reappearing too often.
 
suggest you take time on a NOT argueing day to ask hubby if he does indeed love you. ask if you share belief about reason for life, love , and marriage. if so, then work for solution BEFORE arguements start. then when they come up, there is a plan to keep you from going too far in fit of emotional pique
 
this is not easy, but it works.
 
true, we non-bp do not understand what it is like from the inside of being bp, but then again, you bp do not know what it is like from the outside of it iether. together we can make a whole picture of what it is and what it does. together we can find solutions not available from only one perspective.
 
praying for you both!
 
God bless you,
bonnie and daniel

marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...> wrote:
Hello:
 
I am on Triliptal 300 mg a day and Clonzapam 0.5 mg a day.  I have been interviewed at my hospital and am now accepted into a study and they formed a Bipolar group of only 100 people to be studied.  I truly hope that through this program I will get the long awaited help I need and the proper medication.  My marriage is falling apart my husband feels like giving up he will not listen to me everything is my fault.  It is now affecting my job and my friends.  Noone unless they have this too, understands how each day and each episode is a totally draining battle with oneself.  We are are worst enemies.  I feel unloved and no longer cared about by my husband.  I have lashed out at him name calling ect.....he is at the end of his rope.  I do not know what to do to rectify this matter and he refuses to get help with me or to hear anything about this.  I am looked at like I am a monster.  Any suggestions???

amybuco1 <amybuco1@...> wrote:
I am currently taking 25mg of Lamictal. I have gone down from 50mg. At
50mg I developed a rash on my fingers that resemble that of a bumpy
pickle and was irritating and tuff. Now I am down to 25mg and my
fingers are blistering and peeling and look ragged. My pdoc said it
wasn't something bad but that it will eventually go away. Although I
don't feel like I'm getting enough medication. I am thinking that I
will have to try something else. I am taking Lamictal and Lexapro in
the morning and Seroquel and Xanax as well. We are running out of
anti-depressants to use. I hope we find something that works before
that happens.


--- In alicesbipolarchat@yahoogroups.com, bridget mullen
<stagenameblood@y...> wrote:
> What exactly is the lamictal rash? i'm on lamictal again for the
second time and when i'm on it my face breaks out in mild acne. is
that a sign of the rash? It doesn't really bother me too much because
i like the way lamictal works for me so i'd rather deal with the acne
and be happy then get off it and be miserable...i did that the first
time i was on it and switched to depakote er and that made me nothing
but miserable for an entire year and a half.

>
>
> Chep <inmyprime41@y...> wrote:
> Just thought I would let you know that my doc has agreed to ride
with me with the 25 mg of Lamictal even though I have a slight rash.
With the condition that if it gets any worse to discontinue.  Feeling
good about it.  Love, Joyce 
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#12803 From: marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2004 12:07 am
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Re: new member, marlene
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I am so relieved to actually find someplace to talk about this.  I really need support right now and I know I trust each and everyone of the people on this line to make a sincere effort to help me. thank ou

christina <reaverwoman@...> wrote:
welcome marlene, i think you have found the place you need!


love, christina.


--- In alicesbipolarchat@yahoogroups.com, marlene rehrer
<bonzo332000@y...> wrote:
> I am looking forward to chatting with others to help me deal with
the problems of this disease.  I have had it all my life .  I truly
want to share my feelings and express who I really am without being
judged.  I need someone to understand me.



#12802 From: marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2004 12:05 am
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] trying to get stable...
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It sounds to me like you have the right drs.  Keep the faith it will be alright.  Please contact me anytime.  I am eager to help and also to be helped.

Caressa AlQanni <diagnosedbp@...> wrote:
I'm on my 6th and 7th med right now.
 
Chris

ruthi <ruthi@...> wrote:
Some people are lucky and get the right meds right away. A LOT of people go
through a lot of them before finding the right drug or combination to get
them stable. So don't get discouraged, sometimes it takes a while.

ruthi
--------------
| back In january of this yr I was diagnosed with BP
| I have tried zyprexa, symbyax and now risperdal.. has anyone else had
| to keep trying different meds before they became stable enuff
| thank you




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#12801 From: Bonnie and Daniel <lost_inalaska@...>
Date: Mon Aug 2, 2004 12:03 am
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Lamictal
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thanks marlene--
email anytime. i would enjoy your company
God bless you,
bonnie

marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...> wrote:
Thank you so much for your support .  I know I do love him and it must be hard to be married to someone like me.  The worst part is that I am so loveable. I really appreciate your sharing with me.  Please feel free to email me anytime I would love to help you really.

Bonnie and Daniel <lost_inalaska@...> wrote:
marlene-
 
i am wife to bp. i understand how hard it is form the other side.
 
when we have hit our worst points, the only thing that truly helps is for each of us to stop being mean, stop being hurt, or angry, and take 5 or 10 minutes to be quiet. we agree that we are not going to hurt each other again--because we agree we both want this marriage to last.
 
we have come through times of long seperation due to his anger from manic times, depressed times. he is rapid cycle, and has mixed states. the emotions he experiences then are out of line with reality at times. it has caused a great deal of pain in this marriage.
 
but the bottom line is that we both agree that we love each other, recognize our love as God driven, our lives as Faith driven, and our marriage as God ordained. knowing that we are able to stop ourselves before one or the other of us goes out the door. we apologize, and each time we reach that danger zone, we are more cautious, as we KNOW how devastating it would be for iether of us to lose what we have together.
 
its hard! no joke!! it takes a conscious decision. one stated over and over out loud in front of anyone who will listen. we declare it to the world, so we are not tempted to change our minds in weak moments. we have built support systems to help in bad times. each of us has someplace or someone to whom we can go when having a bad time with this: for support, encouragement, guidance, redirection. these people and places are those which are already determined to be what will guide us back to a strong marriage. it has not happened by accident. we decided this would keep us together, and so far it is working. better and better all the time. we do not fight as we used to. the issues that used to trigger BOTH of us do not have the power they had in the past. we sought counseling for the ones we trhought we could not manage alone, or the ones we saw were reappearing too often.
 
suggest you take time on a NOT argueing day to ask hubby if he does indeed love you. ask if you share belief about reason for life, love , and marriage. if so, then work for solution BEFORE arguements start. then when they come up, there is a plan to keep you from going too far in fit of emotional pique
 
this is not easy, but it works.
 
true, we non-bp do not understand what it is like from the inside of being bp, but then again, you bp do not know what it is like from the outside of it iether. together we can make a whole picture of what it is and what it does. together we can find solutions not available from only one perspective.
 
praying for you both!
 
God bless you,
bonnie and daniel

marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...> wrote:
Hello:
 
I am on Triliptal 300 mg a day and Clonzapam 0.5 mg a day.  I have been interviewed at my hospital and am now accepted into a study and they formed a Bipolar group of only 100 people to be studied.  I truly hope that through this program I will get the long awaited help I need and the proper medication.  My marriage is falling apart my husband feels like giving up he will not listen to me everything is my fault.  It is now affecting my job and my friends.  Noone unless they have this too, understands how each day and each episode is a totally draining battle with oneself.  We are are worst enemies.  I feel unloved and no longer cared about by my husband.  I have lashed out at him name calling ect.....he is at the end of his rope.  I do not know what to do to rectify this matter and he refuses to get help with me or to hear anything about this.  I am looked at like I am a monster.  Any suggestions???

amybuco1 <amybuco1@...> wrote:
I am currently taking 25mg of Lamictal. I have gone down from 50mg. At
50mg I developed a rash on my fingers that resemble that of a bumpy
pickle and was irritating and tuff. Now I am down to 25mg and my
fingers are blistering and peeling and look ragged. My pdoc said it
wasn't something bad but that it will eventually go away. Although I
don't feel like I'm getting enough medication. I am thinking that I
will have to try something else. I am taking Lamictal and Lexapro in
the morning and Seroquel and Xanax as well. We are running out of
anti-depressants to use. I hope we find something that works before
that happens.


--- In alicesbipolarchat@yahoogroups.com, bridget mullen
<stagenameblood@y...> wrote:
> What exactly is the lamictal rash? i'm on lamictal again for the
second time and when i'm on it my face breaks out in mild acne. is
that a sign of the rash? It doesn't really bother me too much because
i like the way lamictal works for me so i'd rather deal with the acne
and be happy then get off it and be miserable...i did that the first
time i was on it and switched to depakote er and that made me nothing
but miserable for an entire year and a half.

>
>
> Chep <inmyprime41@y...> wrote:
> Just thought I would let you know that my doc has agreed to ride
with me with the 25 mg of Lamictal even though I have a slight rash.
With the condition that if it gets any worse to discontinue.  Feeling
good about it.  Love, Joyce 
>
>
> J Chepeus
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#12800 From: marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 11:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Thinking about commiting myself
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Before you do that think about if you can just sleep on it and get through another day.  You sound like a strong person and I would not want you to do something foolish.  Sometimes being hospitalized is not the answer.  It just screws you up even more.  Take my dad for instance. they took him off all his meds and he was crawling on the floor looking for fish. He was delussional .  I mean it take a deep breath and pray and think about it.  You have me here for support.  Please keep in touch.

Chep <inmyprime41@...> wrote:
Chris,  I also wanted to mention that they may have a good outpatient program through one of your hospitals.  You may want to check that out.  It was more helpful for me.  Just a thought.  Love, Joyce

diagnosedbp <diagnosedbp@...> wrote:
Hi All:

I'm seriously thinking about calling my therapist tomorrow and
talking to her about possibly commiting myself and getting someone in
here to take care of Scott.  I can't stand the anxiety and the
irregular sleep patterns anymore.  I think I may be going into a
mixed state now and its driving me nuts.  I just want to seclude,
study, get my meds regulated, get rid of the intense anxiety and get
my sleep regulated and then come home.  No therapy, I have my
therapists and I'm satisfied with them.  I'm not suicidal, just
jumping out of my skin ALL the time.  Getting tearful all the time. 
Had a major fight with Scott yesterday and just screamed at him and
cried.  Can;t stand it anymore.  Any suggestions.

Love

Chris





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#12799 From: marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Lamictal
bonzo332000
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Thank you so much for your support .  I know I do love him and it must be hard to be married to someone like me.  The worst part is that I am so loveable. I really appreciate your sharing with me.  Please feel free to email me anytime I would love to help you really.

Bonnie and Daniel <lost_inalaska@...> wrote:
marlene-
 
i am wife to bp. i understand how hard it is form the other side.
 
when we have hit our worst points, the only thing that truly helps is for each of us to stop being mean, stop being hurt, or angry, and take 5 or 10 minutes to be quiet. we agree that we are not going to hurt each other again--because we agree we both want this marriage to last.
 
we have come through times of long seperation due to his anger from manic times, depressed times. he is rapid cycle, and has mixed states. the emotions he experiences then are out of line with reality at times. it has caused a great deal of pain in this marriage.
 
but the bottom line is that we both agree that we love each other, recognize our love as God driven, our lives as Faith driven, and our marriage as God ordained. knowing that we are able to stop ourselves before one or the other of us goes out the door. we apologize, and each time we reach that danger zone, we are more cautious, as we KNOW how devastating it would be for iether of us to lose what we have together.
 
its hard! no joke!! it takes a conscious decision. one stated over and over out loud in front of anyone who will listen. we declare it to the world, so we are not tempted to change our minds in weak moments. we have built support systems to help in bad times. each of us has someplace or someone to whom we can go when having a bad time with this: for support, encouragement, guidance, redirection. these people and places are those which are already determined to be what will guide us back to a strong marriage. it has not happened by accident. we decided this would keep us together, and so far it is working. better and better all the time. we do not fight as we used to. the issues that used to trigger BOTH of us do not have the power they had in the past. we sought counseling for the ones we trhought we could not manage alone, or the ones we saw were reappearing too often.
 
suggest you take time on a NOT argueing day to ask hubby if he does indeed love you. ask if you share belief about reason for life, love , and marriage. if so, then work for solution BEFORE arguements start. then when they come up, there is a plan to keep you from going too far in fit of emotional pique
 
this is not easy, but it works.
 
true, we non-bp do not understand what it is like from the inside of being bp, but then again, you bp do not know what it is like from the outside of it iether. together we can make a whole picture of what it is and what it does. together we can find solutions not available from only one perspective.
 
praying for you both!
 
God bless you,
bonnie and daniel

marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...> wrote:
Hello:
 
I am on Triliptal 300 mg a day and Clonzapam 0.5 mg a day.  I have been interviewed at my hospital and am now accepted into a study and they formed a Bipolar group of only 100 people to be studied.  I truly hope that through this program I will get the long awaited help I need and the proper medication.  My marriage is falling apart my husband feels like giving up he will not listen to me everything is my fault.  It is now affecting my job and my friends.  Noone unless they have this too, understands how each day and each episode is a totally draining battle with oneself.  We are are worst enemies.  I feel unloved and no longer cared about by my husband.  I have lashed out at him name calling ect.....he is at the end of his rope.  I do not know what to do to rectify this matter and he refuses to get help with me or to hear anything about this.  I am looked at like I am a monster.  Any suggestions???

amybuco1 <amybuco1@...> wrote:
I am currently taking 25mg of Lamictal. I have gone down from 50mg. At
50mg I developed a rash on my fingers that resemble that of a bumpy
pickle and was irritating and tuff. Now I am down to 25mg and my
fingers are blistering and peeling and look ragged. My pdoc said it
wasn't something bad but that it will eventually go away. Although I
don't feel like I'm getting enough medication. I am thinking that I
will have to try something else. I am taking Lamictal and Lexapro in
the morning and Seroquel and Xanax as well. We are running out of
anti-depressants to use. I hope we find something that works before
that happens.


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second time and when i'm on it my face breaks out in mild acne. is
that a sign of the rash? It doesn't really bother me too much because
i like the way lamictal works for me so i'd rather deal with the acne
and be happy then get off it and be miserable...i did that the first
time i was on it and switched to depakote er and that made me nothing
but miserable for an entire year and a half.

>
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With the condition that if it gets any worse to discontinue.  Feeling
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#12798 From: Bonnie and Daniel <lost_inalaska@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Lamictal
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i am wife to bp. i understand how hard it is form the other side.
 
when we have hit our worst points, the only thing that truly helps is for each of us to stop being mean, stop being hurt, or angry, and take 5 or 10 minutes to be quiet. we agree that we are not going to hurt each other again--because we agree we both want this marriage to last.
 
we have come through times of long seperation due to his anger from manic times, depressed times. he is rapid cycle, and has mixed states. the emotions he experiences then are out of line with reality at times. it has caused a great deal of pain in this marriage.
 
but the bottom line is that we both agree that we love each other, recognize our love as God driven, our lives as Faith driven, and our marriage as God ordained. knowing that we are able to stop ourselves before one or the other of us goes out the door. we apologize, and each time we reach that danger zone, we are more cautious, as we KNOW how devastating it would be for iether of us to lose what we have together.
 
its hard! no joke!! it takes a conscious decision. one stated over and over out loud in front of anyone who will listen. we declare it to the world, so we are not tempted to change our minds in weak moments. we have built support systems to help in bad times. each of us has someplace or someone to whom we can go when having a bad time with this: for support, encouragement, guidance, redirection. these people and places are those which are already determined to be what will guide us back to a strong marriage. it has not happened by accident. we decided this would keep us together, and so far it is working. better and better all the time. we do not fight as we used to. the issues that used to trigger BOTH of us do not have the power they had in the past. we sought counseling for the ones we trhought we could not manage alone, or the ones we saw were reappearing too often.
 
suggest you take time on a NOT argueing day to ask hubby if he does indeed love you. ask if you share belief about reason for life, love , and marriage. if so, then work for solution BEFORE arguements start. then when they come up, there is a plan to keep you from going too far in fit of emotional pique
 
this is not easy, but it works.
 
true, we non-bp do not understand what it is like from the inside of being bp, but then again, you bp do not know what it is like from the outside of it iether. together we can make a whole picture of what it is and what it does. together we can find solutions not available from only one perspective.
 
praying for you both!
 
God bless you,
bonnie and daniel

marlene rehrer <bonzo332000@...> wrote:
Hello:
 
I am on Triliptal 300 mg a day and Clonzapam 0.5 mg a day.  I have been interviewed at my hospital and am now accepted into a study and they formed a Bipolar group of only 100 people to be studied.  I truly hope that through this program I will get the long awaited help I need and the proper medication.  My marriage is falling apart my husband feels like giving up he will not listen to me everything is my fault.  It is now affecting my job and my friends.  Noone unless they have this too, understands how each day and each episode is a totally draining battle with oneself.  We are are worst enemies.  I feel unloved and no longer cared about by my husband.  I have lashed out at him name calling ect.....he is at the end of his rope.  I do not know what to do to rectify this matter and he refuses to get help with me or to hear anything about this.  I am looked at like I am a monster.  Any suggestions???

amybuco1 <amybuco1@...> wrote:
I am currently taking 25mg of Lamictal. I have gone down from 50mg. At
50mg I developed a rash on my fingers that resemble that of a bumpy
pickle and was irritating and tuff. Now I am down to 25mg and my
fingers are blistering and peeling and look ragged. My pdoc said it
wasn't something bad but that it will eventually go away. Although I
don't feel like I'm getting enough medication. I am thinking that I
will have to try something else. I am taking Lamictal and Lexapro in
the morning and Seroquel and Xanax as well. We are running out of
anti-depressants to use. I hope we find something that works before
that happens.


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> What exactly is the lamictal rash? i'm on lamictal again for the
second time and when i'm on it my face breaks out in mild acne. is
that a sign of the rash? It doesn't really bother me too much because
i like the way lamictal works for me so i'd rather deal with the acne
and be happy then get off it and be miserable...i did that the first
time i was on it and switched to depakote er and that made me nothing
but miserable for an entire year and a half.

>
>
> Chep <inmyprime41@y...> wrote:
> Just thought I would let you know that my doc has agreed to ride
with me with the 25 mg of Lamictal even though I have a slight rash.
With the condition that if it gets any worse to discontinue.  Feeling
good about it.  Love, Joyce 
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#12796 From: "christina" <reaverwoman@...>
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#12794 From: Yoga4life83@...
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I am still working on finding the right meds -- and i am on 6 of them now but it
seems to be a great combo for me!



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>back In january of this yr I was diagnosed with BP
>I have tried zyprexa, symbyax and now risperdal.. has anyone else had
>to keep trying different meds before they became stable enuff
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#12793 From: "christina" <reaverwoman@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Thinking about commiting myself
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i agree with joyce, the best way is to have your pdoc treat you while
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> If you think you need to be in the hospital you probably do.  I am
glad to hear you are not suicidal.  If you were I would say go right
now.  I don't want to be discouraging but my experience has been that
they don't keep you long enough to become stable.  I have had some
bad experiences.  One time they changed all my med's, overdosed me on
Lithium and I left the hospital in terrible shape.  Had to start new
med's all over again with my doc and went through a pretty bad
transition.  If you could keep your same doctor that knows your
history while inpatient I think it would be a good thing.  Best
Wishes, Joyce
>
> diagnosedbp <diagnosedbp@y...> wrote: Hi All:
>
> I'm seriously thinking about calling my therapist tomorrow and
> talking to her about possibly commiting myself and getting someone
in
> here to take care of Scott.  I can't stand the anxiety and the
> irregular sleep patterns anymore.  I think I may be going into a
> mixed state now and its driving me nuts.  I just want to seclude,
> study, get my meds regulated, get rid of the intense anxiety and
get
> my sleep regulated and then come home.  No therapy, I have my
> therapists and I'm satisfied with them.  I'm not suicidal, just
> jumping out of my skin ALL the time.  Getting tearful all the
time.
> Had a major fight with Scott yesterday and just screamed at him and
> cried.  Can;t stand it anymore.  Any suggestions.
>
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#12792 From: Michelle Petersen <chowten@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Just thinking.
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I always made my pets their own rhinestone collars,so I made a few
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for cats and dogs asked me to make some and now I sell them on ebay as
well as some for special clients.

Michelle
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> Michelle,  What are you selling on ebay?  Joyce 
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>  regular hours and I felt bad about this.
> Inadaquit to be exact. But I have started at at home (make my own
>  hours) make my own product and am doing pretty well
> on ebay. I know it's simple , but I feel more independant. I hope it
> continues to do well. I am proud of anyone who keeps a regular job.
> I need to do something as I am afraid to ever get on disablity . I am
>  afraid of the stigma, so I persevere without it. I am lucky my husband
> has a good job. Thanks for listening.
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#12791 From: Chep <inmyprime41@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Thinking about commiting myself
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Chris,  I also wanted to mention that they may have a good outpatient program through one of your hospitals.  You may want to check that out.  It was more helpful for me.  Just a thought.  Love, Joyce

diagnosedbp <diagnosedbp@...> wrote:
Hi All:

I'm seriously thinking about calling my therapist tomorrow and
talking to her about possibly commiting myself and getting someone in
here to take care of Scott.  I can't stand the anxiety and the
irregular sleep patterns anymore.  I think I may be going into a
mixed state now and its driving me nuts.  I just want to seclude,
study, get my meds regulated, get rid of the intense anxiety and get
my sleep regulated and then come home.  No therapy, I have my
therapists and I'm satisfied with them.  I'm not suicidal, just
jumping out of my skin ALL the time.  Getting tearful all the time. 
Had a major fight with Scott yesterday and just screamed at him and
cried.  Can;t stand it anymore.  Any suggestions.

Love

Chris





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#12790 From: Chep <inmyprime41@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Thinking about commiting myself
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If you think you need to be in the hospital you probably do.  I am glad to hear you are not suicidal.  If you were I would say go right now.  I don't want to be discouraging but my experience has been that they don't keep you long enough to become stable.  I have had some bad experiences.  One time they changed all my med's, overdosed me on Lithium and I left the hospital in terrible shape.  Had to start new med's all over again with my doc and went through a pretty bad transition.  If you could keep your same doctor that knows your history while inpatient I think it would be a good thing.  Best Wishes, Joyce

diagnosedbp <diagnosedbp@...> wrote:
Hi All:

I'm seriously thinking about calling my therapist tomorrow and
talking to her about possibly commiting myself and getting someone in
here to take care of Scott.  I can't stand the anxiety and the
irregular sleep patterns anymore.  I think I may be going into a
mixed state now and its driving me nuts.  I just want to seclude,
study, get my meds regulated, get rid of the intense anxiety and get
my sleep regulated and then come home.  No therapy, I have my
therapists and I'm satisfied with them.  I'm not suicidal, just
jumping out of my skin ALL the time.  Getting tearful all the time. 
Had a major fight with Scott yesterday and just screamed at him and
cried.  Can;t stand it anymore.  Any suggestions.

Love

Chris





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#12789 From: Chep <inmyprime41@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Just thinking.
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Michelle,  What are you selling on ebay?  Joyce 

Michelle Petersen <chowten@...> wrote:
You know , I was thinking. I am unable to keep a job that requires
regular hours and I felt bad about this.
Inadaquit to be exact. But I have started at at home (make my own
hours) make my own product and am doing pretty well
on ebay. I know it's simple , but I feel more independant. I hope it
continues to do well. I am proud of anyone who keeps a regular job.
I need to do something as I am afraid to ever get on disablity . I am
afraid of the stigma, so I persevere without it. I am lucky my husband
has a good job. Thanks for listening.

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#12788 From: "christina" <reaverwoman@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Just thinking. jenni
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may i suggest that you try to perfect piecrust making?

unless i buy a frozen pieshell or make dough from scratch i can never
find a good pie to buy anywhere, the crust is always thick, hard and
heavy instead of light and flaky...

i think homemade pies/tarts with truly good crust might be a very hot
seller is all.


love, christina.




--- In alicesbipolarchat@yahoogroups.com, "jennifer"
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> I too feel inadequit as well. I feel like i can't keep a regular
job.
> But i no longer have the husband with a good job so i have to try.
> I'm going to try as hard as I can with my new job at Sonic Drive
In.
>
> But on the stay at home note. My boyfriend and i are working on
> recipes to start making mail order desserts. and we're going to try
> to market them around town at the small stores. if we can get a
good
> enough recipie. We made two batches the other day and his mother
> loved them. So i think we're on the right track. Congrats on your
> Ebay job. I think that is the way to go for those of us who may be
> unable to keep regular jobs.
>
> Jenni
>
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requires
> > regular hours and I felt bad about this.
> > Inadaquit  to be exact. But I have started at at home (make my
own
> > hours) make my own product and am doing pretty well
> > on ebay. I know it's simple , but I feel more independant.  I
hope
> it
> > continues to do well. I am proud of anyone who keeps a regular
job.
> > I need to do something as I am afraid to ever get on disablity .
I
> am
> > afraid of the stigma, so I persevere without it. I am lucky my
> husband
> > has a good job. Thanks for listening.
> >
> > Michelle
> > On Jul 31, 2004, at 5:11 PM, Yoga4life83@a... wrote:
> >

#12787 From: "christina" <reaverwoman@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 1:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] Just thinking. michelle!
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people who work from their homes are considered INDEPENDANT
BUSINESSMEN/WOMEN!!!

i happen to think that is better than any job since it makes you self-
reliant, a self-made person like donald trump, just not in the same
numbers as he is, lol!

my hubby works his business from home and i couldn't be prouder of
him even though he hasn't made me rich yet, lol!


love, christina.



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> regular hours and I felt bad about this.
> Inadaquit  to be exact. But I have started at at home (make my own
> hours) make my own product and am doing pretty well
> on ebay. I know it's simple , but I feel more independant.  I hope
it
> continues to do well. I am proud of anyone who keeps a regular job.
> I need to do something as I am afraid to ever get on disablity . I
am
> afraid of the stigma, so I persevere without it. I am lucky my
husband
> has a good job. Thanks for listening.
>
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Hi All:

I'm seriously thinking about calling my therapist tomorrow and
talking to her about possibly commiting myself and getting someone in
here to take care of Scott.  I can't stand the anxiety and the
irregular sleep patterns anymore.  I think I may be going into a
mixed state now and its driving me nuts.  I just want to seclude,
study, get my meds regulated, get rid of the intense anxiety and get
my sleep regulated and then come home.  No therapy, I have my
therapists and I'm satisfied with them.  I'm not suicidal, just
jumping out of my skin ALL the time.  Getting tearful all the time. 
Had a major fight with Scott yesterday and just screamed at him and
cried.  Can;t stand it anymore.  Any suggestions.

Love

Chris



Chris,

I have been there.  I was commited by myself.  It is much better if you do it than someone else.  I have 3 young sons and a great supportive husband of 15 years.  I was just diagnosed in December.  Do I have any suggestions, no.  I will pray for you.  I have been in the hospital 3 times including December.  If you feel you need to go then go.  Find good care for your son and go. 


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#12785 From: "christina" <reaverwoman@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: trying to get stable...gordon
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we all go thru the medicine - go- around...!

welcome to the club!

the main thing is don't settle for somewhat stable...!

and patience may be needed, lots of it!


love, christina.




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> back In january of this yr I was diagnosed with BP
> I have tried zyprexa, symbyax and now risperdal.. has anyone else
had
> to keep trying different meds before they became stable enuff
> thank you

#12784 From: "christina" <reaverwoman@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: new member, marlene
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welcome marlene, i think you have found the place you need!


love, christina.


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> I am looking forward to chatting with others to help me deal with
the problems of this disease.  I have had it all my life .  I truly
want to share my feelings and express who I really am without being
judged.  I need someone to understand me.

#12783 From: "christina" <reaverwoman@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 12:39 pm
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plenty of us take meds for psychosis!

there is a common one that will help with his sleep too as it has
drowsy properties...it's called seroquel.

i think your instincts on what to do are exactly on the mark!


love, christina.



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> nothing sice beginning to worry about some behavior in my DH. I am
> tierd and have spent hrs and hrs online trying to find some answers,
> only to find a bunch of things that tell totally different answers
> about things.. My Dh is dealing with Bi polar..we have our ups and
> downs but it is getting better and we are making steps forward. But
> I have noticed some odd behavior last few days..Such as him saying
> odd things..like maybe he is confused or he is thinking off..he is
> not hearing voices ect. Just he gets confused and will say things
> that really make me feel he is having some mild psychosis.
> My DH is on aderell xr and lamactial 200 mg
> He has been having what I would describe as some psychosis
> behavior. I will say after trying to read about this online what he
> does have seems like mild phychosis..but heck even mild is scary to
> watch and deal with.
> My question to you is this. I did read that aderell may not be good
> for a bi polor person that has an eposide of this. He is on the
> adderel for addh. But I also found some sites that suggested adding
> a low dose antipsychosis medication may help.
> I plan to call his dr monday and talk with him.
> I found a great site that spoke about steps to treat this ..the
> first said control psychosis..then to treat sleep issue..( he has
> not been sleeping well at all..) I also notice that the eposies come
> more often at night before bed or when is trying to sleep..
> So I will call the Dr monday and explain to him we need to get DH
> sleeping..then mention to him that the sites I read about suggest he
> might need to go back on his klopin or zanaz ect. he went off these
> last week..
> But what do any of you think about adding a psychosis meds..a low
> does one.
> Is anyone here on a med like adderell and lamactial and started a
> low dose psychosis medication?

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#12780 From: "diagnosedbp" <diagnosedbp@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 11:05 am
Subject: Thinking about commiting myself
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Hi All:

I'm seriously thinking about calling my therapist tomorrow and
talking to her about possibly commiting myself and getting someone in
here to take care of Scott.  I can't stand the anxiety and the
irregular sleep patterns anymore.  I think I may be going into a
mixed state now and its driving me nuts.  I just want to seclude,
study, get my meds regulated, get rid of the intense anxiety and get
my sleep regulated and then come home.  No therapy, I have my
therapists and I'm satisfied with them.  I'm not suicidal, just
jumping out of my skin ALL the time.  Getting tearful all the time.
Had a major fight with Scott yesterday and just screamed at him and
cried.  Can;t stand it anymore.  Any suggestions.

Love

Chris

#12779 From: Caressa AlQanni <diagnosedbp@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [Alices Bipolar Chat ] trying to get stable...
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I'm on my 6th and 7th med right now.
 
Chris

ruthi <ruthi@...> wrote:
Some people are lucky and get the right meds right away. A LOT of people go
through a lot of them before finding the right drug or combination to get
them stable. So don't get discouraged, sometimes it takes a while.

ruthi
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| back In january of this yr I was diagnosed with BP
| I have tried zyprexa, symbyax and now risperdal.. has anyone else had
| to keep trying different meds before they became stable enuff
| thank you




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#12778 From: "ruthi" <ruthi@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2004 7:54 am
Subject: trying to get stable...
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Some people are lucky and get the right meds right away. A LOT of people go
through a lot of them before finding the right drug or combination to get
them stable. So don't get discouraged, sometimes it takes a while.

ruthi
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| back In january of this yr I was diagnosed with BP
| I have tried zyprexa, symbyax and now risperdal.. has anyone else had
| to keep trying different meds before they became stable enuff
| thank you

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