Has anyone used Trileptal for stablizing moods? I know it is an
anti-epileptic drug, too.

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From: afha@yahoogroups.com [mailto:afha@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sylvia Ockman
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:00 AM
To: afha@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/prepuberty





Kelly,

Kristen is the same way. But now with the meds she will give in faster
than before. If I give her an answer that makes since she will now say
ok and move on. Before we could spend hours trying to get her to stop
asking the same question. With getting her way she is better also.
Before if she was something and I said no the fight was on. Now I can
reason with her and she will move on.

Sylvia

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Kelly Andrasco <kelly_andrasco@
<mailto:kelly_andrasco%40ameritech.net> ameritech.net> wrote:

From: Kelly Andrasco <kelly_andrasco@
<mailto:kelly_andrasco%40ameritech.net> ameritech.net>
Subject: RE: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/prepuberty
To: afha@yahoogroups. <mailto:afha%40yahoogroups.com> com
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 4:17 PM

Sylvia,

I think she is more impulsive and she is obsessive, as in she won’t let
things go or get off of a topic/question, especially if things don’t go
her way. I’m actually looking forward to going because I feel like help
is on the way. I started asking her neuro about her behavior at age 5
and it has gotten worse over the years. She is now 8.

Kelly

-----Original Message-----
From: afha@yahoogroups. com [mailto:afha@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Sylvia Ockman
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:48 PM
To: afha@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty

Kelly,

Good luck. Does your child have issues with being compulsive? Kristen
would pick her finger nails until they would fall off. My advice would
be to not leave out any behavior that's going on. The more information
you give the better. Even if you think it's small. Be patient, because
it could take time. The waiting was hard, but the end results were
great. Also this may sound strange, but talking to the psych help me
alot.

Sylvia

meritech.net> wrote:

From: Kelly Andrasco <kelly_andrasco@
<mailto:kelly_ andrasco% 40ameritech. net> ameritech.net>
Subject: RE: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty
To: afha@yahoogroups. <mailto:afha% 40yahoogroups. com> com
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 11:16 AM

Thank you, Sylvia. We see the psych tomorrow.

Kelly

-----Original Message-----
From: afha@yahoogroups. com [mailto:afha@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Sylvia Ockman
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:09 AM
To: afha@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty

Kelly,

The dr. is the one who suggested that we try something different. When
we would start one we gave it a couple weeks. At first things would go
well, then after they reached a certain level the behavior would start
again. The dr. was very good with knowing which one to try. When we
explained what she was doing he gave the options of the one's that he
thought would work the best. We started the seroquel because she was so
aggressive. When we saw that this was working for her we tackled the
obsessive behavior with the celexa. The side effects we saw was the
sleepiness. Which after a few days she was fine. The seroquel made her
eat more, but that was a good thing for her because she is so small, and
didn't want to eat. It has made ours lives alot better. She likes
going more now than before, and loves going to school. At one time I
had to fight her every moring to go.

Hope this is helpful.
Sylvia

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Kelly Andrasco <kelly_andrasco@
<mailto:kelly_ andrasco% 40ameritech. net> ameritech.net> wrote:

From: Kelly Andrasco <kelly_andrasco@
<mailto:kelly_ andrasco% 40ameritech. net> ameritech.net>
Subject: RE: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty
To: afha@yahoogroups. <mailto:afha% 40yahoogroups. com> com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 4:28 PM

Sylvia,

How did you know to try a different drug? Was it that it had no effect
on her behavior, so you tried another?

Kelly

(Mom to Kiley, 8 yrs. old)

-----Original Message-----
From: afha@yahoogroups. com [mailto:afha@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Sylvia Ockman
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:07 AM
To: afha@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty

Hello to all of you. I have been reading your post about
behavior/prepuberty . Kristen(15) did have issues in the beginning. We
had a few years of behavior that I thought just might drive us crazy.
We fought this with school, going out to church, out to eat. Anything
that we wanted to do as a family. She hit, bit, kicked, would
physically beat us up. After years of losing this battle I finally
brought her to a psychiatrist. I didn't want to add another drug to the
list she already was taking. But when it got to the point where we
couldn't control her anymore I had to make the decision on what was best
for her. We used several drugs(Zoloft, risperadol, abilify) we finally
ended up with seroquel and celexa. Finally we found a combination that
worked. It took some time to get her levels up, but when we did we saw
a different child. She was nice to everyone, kind to her brother and
sister,wantedtgo to school. The staff there ask us
what we did with the old Kristen. I tell you it was like day and nite.
There are still some days when she acts up, but I have to remember that
she is a teenager. There will be times where she gets cranky, but they
are nothing like before. As most of you feel the same about more drugs,
sometimes we have to try, so that they can have some kind of normal
life. I often remind myself imagine how she must feel. Kristen was
diagnosed with AHC when she was 6 months old. She developed epilepsy at
age 3. Her seizures are grand mal, and in the beginning lasted up to
two to three hours. Now they are controlled with Zonegran, Lamictal,
Tranxene and flunarizine for AHC. She also has a VNS stimulator that
made a world of difference with the seizures. She takes the depo shot
for her menstrual cycles.

This journey is a tough one, and its not fair that our children have to
struggle with this every day, but I am thankful to have her no matter
what lies ahead. Take care a keep searching for the answers!

Yvonne

From: Siggi Jóhannesson <sunnavaldis@ <mailto:sunnavaldis %40yahoo. com>
yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty
To: afha@yahoogroups. <mailto:afha% 40yahoogroups. com> com
Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 8:12 AM

Hi again

Just wanted to correct myself.
We do use Chloral, I wrote do not.

Thanks
Ragga

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From: Siggi Jóhannesson <sunnavaldis@ yahoo.com>
To: afha@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:23:53 AM
Subject: Re: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty

Hi all

We have had terrible experience with Aivan and it is a definately not
the drug for Sunna.
Before Sunna was diagnosed with AHC at 14 mo. she was thought having
epilepsy seizures. Every time Sunna had an episode we contacted her
neurologist and we rushed her to the Childrens Hospital. It was just a
standard procedure to give her Ativan, we just did not know what to do
for her at those difficult times. It was supposed to help her calm down,
and finally get her to sleep but it worked just the opposide for her.
She got VERY aggitated, cried sooo much and we were at the hospital
walking her around for up to 12 hours in our arms. She was hurting so
much.
Sunna went through all the tests but it came negative, no epilepsy
activity.... .
Well the last time we tried Ativan was in April last year. Sunna had
then been diagnosed with AHC for 10 mo and she had been admitted to the
hospital because of the numerous episodes she had been having that day,
it did not help her at all. It was a 14 hour walk and we were exausted
and so was Sunna with no rest. Ativan is now hightlighted a NO drug to
be used for Sunna, and will remain so.
What we use not is Chloral Hydrate, it gets her to sleep within 10 min
and she usually wakes up fine. We have this at home.

Take care
Ragga
Iceland

____________ _________ _________ __
From: kcventi <kcventi@verizon. net>
To: afha@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:55:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty

When we've used valium or ativan, outside of a seizure, Addie gets very
agitated and revved up as well.

Karen V.

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, KathHurl@aol. com <KathHurl@aol. com> wrote:

From: KathHurl@aol. com <KathHurl@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty
To: afha@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:31 PM

Abbie takes .5 mg twice a day, which is a pretty low dose for a grown
woman (she is almost 20 years old now) -- but her neurologist has said
that even in low dosages it can be therapeutic. ? She does not have any
anxiety issues at all.? She does not have any behavior issues.?

-----Original Message-----

From: Heather <hgates@buckeye- express.com>

To: afha@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:54 am

Subject: Re: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty

Joce hasn't used ativan since Dx except last hospitalization. When we

used to use it she would get agitated. How much does Abbie take a day?

Does she have anxiety issues?

Heather

KathHurl@aol. com wrote:

>

>

> Are any of the children on Lorazepam or Ativan?? Abbie has been on it

> since she was about 4 -- she is now 20.? She doesn't have any

> behavioural problems now, but she could get pretty cranky when she was

> much younger.? We think that the lorazepam helped.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Kelly Andrasco <kelly_andrasco@ ameritech. net

> <mailto:kelly_ andrasco% 40ameritech. net>>

> To: afha@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afha% 40yahoogroups. com>

> Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 5:02 pm

> Subject: RE: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty

>

> Hi Heather,

>

> Kiley is 8 yrs old and is not on Keppra. I remember talking to Dr.

> Silver about her behavior when she was 5 yrs old and it has steadily

> gotten worse over the years. So in our case it has nothing to do with

> Keppra and I don't think puberty either due to the age it started.

> Kiley is somewhat similar to Jocelyn with the potty training in that
she

> doesn't want to bother with it if she is playing or in the middle of

> some other fun activity. She definitely has trouble controlling the

> poop as opposed to pee. Also, we find that just before and during

> episodes, she can't control the toileting. We have an appointment with

> Dr. Silver next week and another doctor at the end of the month

> regarding the behavior.

>

> Kelly

>

> (mom to Kiley)

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: afha@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afha% 40yahoogroups. com>

> [mailto:afha@ yahoogroups. com <mailto:afha% 40yahoogroups. com>] On
Behalf Of

> Heather

> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:30 PM

> To: afha@yahoogroups. com <mailto:afha% 40yahoogroups. com>

> Subject: [ahc] Keppra/behavior/ prepuberty

>

> Hi all, I've been reading the recent posts and we've been dealing with

> behavior issues for last year or so. We are trying to sort out what is

> behavior due to puberty beginning and "normal" bucking the

> parents/acting out behavior and what could be Keppra. As I've written

> before, we put her on Keppra after a severe AHC attack that put her in

> the hospital. The neuro thought it might help It's been 2 yrs since we

> put her on it and still are not at max dose (been on 5.5ml 2 x day)
but

> decided to slowly up it (per Neuro plan) to full max dose of 9ml 2
xday

> and see if it helps attacks. If not we were going to take her off.

> Wellllll, the behavior of hitting, kicking, yelling has come and gone

> over the last year, but over last week has gotten bad. She reacts
badly

> to every request of going to the bathroom to change pants (potty
trained

>

> now with peeing, not pooping) or stopping activity to go (even with

> warning her in advance or if know she pooped). It's like reactive

> behavior of a 2-3 yr old.

> My question, do you who have kids on Keppra think it's the Keppra,

> puberty behavior, or what? I know people have said their girls attacks

> changed (hers are more frequent and the cycles are blurring together

> with too many triggered attacks). The anxiety is also over the

> top.(which I've read can be a bad side effect of Keppra) If anyone
would

>

> like to share or be willing to talk over the phone, I'd appreciate it!

> Heather, mom to Jocelyn (10 1/2 yrs)

> hgates@buckeye- <mailto:hgates% 40buckeye- express.com> express.com

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