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#1116 From: Nathalie Levreault <natlevreault@...>
Date: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:17 am
Subject: Re: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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Thank you Amber for these precious advices.
 
I will consider them for sure. Luckily, she doesn't seem to suffer from any pain, only telling me that she 'feels' her left pupil...
 
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#1115 From: A Friend <hot_chica58368@...>
Date: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:17 am
Subject: Re: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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I have just entered my second year with adies and although I still find a few things difficult, I have been able to adjust well.  My best advice to you is to make sure that you encourage your daughter to tell you of any new symptoms that occur.  Just tell her that if she does this, it can be helped quicker and the pain or anything else that accompanies this symptom will lessen.  If she enjoys reading encourage her to continue, but when I was first diagnosed I was not able to read for more than a half hour without my eyes hurting.  Over time I am able to go an hour and a half without pain.  I am going in to get new reading glasses this week though, with hope to extend the time further.  As far as the light, it has always hurt my eyes and without dark glasses it is worth.  As long as she needs new glasses I would invest in the transition for the safety of her eyes.  The last thing is that my specialist said that fluorescents seem to be a problem for many of his adies patients and if they are the school should know.  There are things that they can do to help her with this.  I have almost no reflexes anymore, less in my right than my left.  It does not bother me much except for when someone tries to tickle me.  Then I notice that it doesn't bother the right, but it tickles on my left. 
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#1114 From: "natlevreault" <natlevreault@...>
Date: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:21 am
Subject: Re: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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Thank you Marie. I will certainly consider your advices! Your help is
very precious to me.

Nathalie



--- In adie_syndrome@yahoogroups.com, Rita Cullum <ritac42@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Worried Mom,
>
> I think I can say the light is an issue for everyone
> with adie's.  I wear sunglasses all the time.  Some
> people do develop headaches because of the sun, I am
> not one of them. If the sun is an issue for your
> daughter, then ask the eye doctor about lenses that
> auto-shade.  In fact if your daughter says the sun
> hurts her eyes, by all means do what ever it takes to
> shade the sun from her eyes. In answer to your 3rd
> question, yes, my reflexes are slow.  I have them, but
> a reflex check does not produce the same results as a
> normal person and I am not that ticklelish either.
> I've had adies for a little over eight years, as of
> yet, my pupil has not gotten small.  It isn't as huge
> as it use to be.  I have more trouble with shadows and
> I can't explain double vision, because it's not really
> double vision, but I see a thing and a shadow of the
> thing close to it.  I have adies in my left eye only.
> I do require reading glasses now.  I have contact
> lenses that keep distance looking the same and then
> plain dollar store reading glasses to read.  In the
> beginning I had to have bi-focals and  different
> strength in each eye because of the adies'. And to
> help her "just love her",  stess is a big factor with
> adies.  I'm not saying to spoil her, but notice when
> things make her nervous or afraid.  Maybe someone else
> can comment on helping more.  I find that when I eat a
> high protein/low carb diet my adies gets better, but
> I'm an adult not a child.  Above all help her to learn
> about her adies so she doesn't feel it's a death
> sentence.  Adies is mainly trial and error, what works
> for one doesn't for another, but it doesn't hurt to
> try different things as long as it is not life
> threatening.  Let her know that there are others in
> her shoes. My best to you and your daughter.  I will
> put her on my prayer list.
>
> ut--- natlevreault <natlevreault@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > My 10 year old daughter was just diagnosed with
> > Adie's syndrome.
> >
> > Going through the web, I realize that there isn't
> > much interesting
> > information about the symptoms and long term effects
> > on one's life.
> >
> > During the exam, the doctor tested her nervous
> > system reflexes (knees
> > and elbows) and to my big surprise she had none! He
> > confirmed this
> > was due to Adie's Syndrome.
> >
> > He also told me that with time her pupil (which is
> > quite dilated now)
> > will end up shrinking to a very small size.
> >
> > As I read your messages, I realize that some of you
> > have been
> > diagnosed a while ago...and I have a few unsanswered
> > questions (as it
> > is sometimes hard to get precise information from a
> > child and a
> > doctor) for which your help would be very
> > appreciated.
> >
> > 1. Is the light really an issue for someone with
> > that syndrome,
> > meaning is this what seems to cause the headaches?
> >
> > 2. She is now due for new prescription glasses;
> > would it be justified
> > to get her lens that auto-shade in the sun?
> >
> > 3. Have any of you noticed lack of nervous reflexes
> > also?
> >
> > 4. If her pupil ends up being very small eventually,
> > won't it be hard
> > for her to see in the dark?
> >
> > 5. Does it have any impact on your vision (reading
> > for example)?
> >
> > 5. Do you think there is anything I should be made
> > aware of to help
> > her?
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > From a worried mom.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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#1113 From: "natlevreault" <natlevreault@...>
Date: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:13 am
Subject: Re: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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Thank you very much Marie for your help. It is amazing that the
doctor didn't give me any advice! Amazing!
I really appreciate your advices.
Thanks!
Nathalie

--- In adie_syndrome@yahoogroups.com, Trisha Marie <qcgirl63@...>
wrote:
>
> As for me I am in to my 5 th yr and I just lost my reflexes this
year. Light does bother the eye or eyes. Try using dim lighting and
avoid overhead lights. Keep her sun vissor down in the car and make
sure she wears her sunglasses and a bucket hat if possible outside.
It's all about adjusting to your situation and everybodys case is
different. If all possible shorten her computer time and when she is
online adjust your monitor so it isn't as bright.
>
> natlevreault <natlevreault@...> wrote:   Hello everyone,
>
> My 10 year old daughter was just diagnosed with Adie's syndrome.
>
> Going through the web, I realize that there isn't much interesting
> information about the symptoms and long term effects on one's life.
>
> During the exam, the doctor tested her nervous system reflexes
(knees
> and elbows) and to my big surprise she had none! He confirmed this
> was due to Adie's Syndrome.
>
> He also told me that with time her pupil (which is quite dilated
now)
> will end up shrinking to a very small size.
>
> As I read your messages, I realize that some of you have been
> diagnosed a while ago...and I have a few unsanswered questions (as
it
> is sometimes hard to get precise information from a child and a
> doctor) for which your help would be very appreciated.
>
> 1. Is the light really an issue for someone with that syndrome,
> meaning is this what seems to cause the headaches?
>
> 2. She is now due for new prescription glasses; would it be
justified
> to get her lens that auto-shade in the sun?
>
> 3. Have any of you noticed lack of nervous reflexes also?
>
> 4. If her pupil ends up being very small eventually, won't it be
hard
> for her to see in the dark?
>
> 5. Does it have any impact on your vision (reading for example)?
>
> 5. Do you think there is anything I should be made aware of to help
> her?
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> From a worried mom.
>
>
>
>
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#1112 From: "natlevreault" <natlevreault@...>
Date: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:18 am
Subject: Re: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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Thank you for your advices! Yes, she has been wearing glasses for
about 5 years, for her 'close' vision. I am seeing an ophtalmologist
this week for a new prescription. I guess the Adie situation may
change the required prescription...

Thanks.

Nathalie


--- In adie_syndrome@yahoogroups.com, "MStafford" <Mstafford220@...>
wrote:
>
> Hope this helps:
> 1.  Light could cause the headaches.  You would also have to be
careful long
> term about the ultraviolet rays entering the pupil and causing
cateracts.
> 2.  That's up to you.  I found they do not get dark enough though.
> 3.  Yes. I have no knee reflex on the adie's side as well as a non-
sweating
> forearm.
> 4.  I've had adie since 1992 and it has not gotten to that point
yet even
> though it is smaller than it was at the beginning.
> 5.  Yes.  Does you daughter already wear glasses?  She may need
reading
> glasses or have to hold the material further away.  Or may need to
have
> glasses changed more ofter than one or two years.
>

#1111 From: "MStafford" <Mstafford220@...>
Date: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:01 pm
Subject: Re: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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Hope this helps:
1.  Light could cause the headaches.  You would also have to be careful long
term about the ultraviolet rays entering the pupil and causing cateracts.
2.  That's up to you.  I found they do not get dark enough though.
3.  Yes. I have no knee reflex on the adie's side as well as a non-sweating
forearm.
4.  I've had adie since 1992 and it has not gotten to that point yet even
though it is smaller than it was at the beginning.
5.  Yes.  Does you daughter already wear glasses?  She may need reading
glasses or have to hold the material further away.  Or may need to have
glasses changed more ofter than one or two years.

#1110 From: Rita Cullum <ritac42@...>
Date: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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Dear Worried Mom,

I think I can say the light is an issue for everyone
with adie's.  I wear sunglasses all the time.  Some
people do develop headaches because of the sun, I am
not one of them. If the sun is an issue for your
daughter, then ask the eye doctor about lenses that
auto-shade.  In fact if your daughter says the sun
hurts her eyes, by all means do what ever it takes to
shade the sun from her eyes. In answer to your 3rd
question, yes, my reflexes are slow.  I have them, but
a reflex check does not produce the same results as a
normal person and I am not that ticklelish either.
I've had adies for a little over eight years, as of
yet, my pupil has not gotten small.  It isn't as huge
as it use to be.  I have more trouble with shadows and
I can't explain double vision, because it's not really
double vision, but I see a thing and a shadow of the
thing close to it.  I have adies in my left eye only.
I do require reading glasses now.  I have contact
lenses that keep distance looking the same and then
plain dollar store reading glasses to read.  In the
beginning I had to have bi-focals and  different
strength in each eye because of the adies'. And to
help her "just love her",  stess is a big factor with
adies.  I'm not saying to spoil her, but notice when
things make her nervous or afraid.  Maybe someone else
can comment on helping more.  I find that when I eat a
high protein/low carb diet my adies gets better, but
I'm an adult not a child.  Above all help her to learn
about her adies so she doesn't feel it's a death
sentence.  Adies is mainly trial and error, what works
for one doesn't for another, but it doesn't hurt to
try different things as long as it is not life
threatening.  Let her know that there are others in
her shoes. My best to you and your daughter.  I will
put her on my prayer list.

ut--- natlevreault <natlevreault@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My 10 year old daughter was just diagnosed with
> Adie's syndrome.
>
> Going through the web, I realize that there isn't
> much interesting
> information about the symptoms and long term effects
> on one's life.
>
> During the exam, the doctor tested her nervous
> system reflexes (knees
> and elbows) and to my big surprise she had none! He
> confirmed this
> was due to Adie's Syndrome.
>
> He also told me that with time her pupil (which is
> quite dilated now)
> will end up shrinking to a very small size.
>
> As I read your messages, I realize that some of you
> have been
> diagnosed a while ago...and I have a few unsanswered
> questions (as it
> is sometimes hard to get precise information from a
> child and a
> doctor) for which your help would be very
> appreciated.
>
> 1. Is the light really an issue for someone with
> that syndrome,
> meaning is this what seems to cause the headaches?
>
> 2. She is now due for new prescription glasses;
> would it be justified
> to get her lens that auto-shade in the sun?
>
> 3. Have any of you noticed lack of nervous reflexes
> also?
>
> 4. If her pupil ends up being very small eventually,
> won't it be hard
> for her to see in the dark?
>
> 5. Does it have any impact on your vision (reading
> for example)?
>
> 5. Do you think there is anything I should be made
> aware of to help
> her?
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> From a worried mom.
>
>
>
>


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#1109 From: Trisha Marie <qcgirl63@...>
Date: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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As for me I am in to my 5 th yr and I just lost my reflexes this year. Light does bother the eye or eyes. Try using dim lighting and avoid overhead lights. Keep her sun vissor down in the car and make sure she wears her sunglasses and a bucket hat if possible outside. It's all about adjusting to your situation and everybodys case is different. If all possible shorten her computer time and when she is online adjust your monitor so it isn't as bright.

natlevreault <natlevreault@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,

My 10 year old daughter was just diagnosed with Adie's syndrome.

Going through the web, I realize that there isn't much interesting
information about the symptoms and long term effects on one's life.

During the exam, the doctor tested her nervous system reflexes (knees
and elbows) and to my big surprise she had none! He confirmed this
was due to Adie's Syndrome.

He also told me that with time her pupil (which is quite dilated now)
will end up shrinking to a very small size.

As I read your messages, I realize that some of you have been
diagnosed a while ago...and I have a few unsanswered questions (as it
is sometimes hard to get precise information from a child and a
doctor) for which your help would be very appreciated.

1. Is the light really an issue for someone with that syndrome,
meaning is this what seems to cause the headaches?

2. She is now due for new prescription glasses; would it be justified
to get her lens that auto-shade in the sun?

3. Have any of you noticed lack of nervous reflexes also?

4. If her pupil ends up being very small eventually, won't it be hard
for her to see in the dark?

5. Does it have any impact on your vision (reading for example)?

5. Do you think there is anything I should be made aware of to help
her?

Thank you for your help.

From a worried mom.





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#1108 From: "natlevreault" <natlevreault@...>
Date: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:53 am
Subject: Adie Syndrome Diagnostic
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Hello everyone,

My 10 year old daughter was just diagnosed with Adie's syndrome.

Going through the web, I realize that there isn't much interesting
information about the symptoms and long term effects on one's life.

During the exam, the doctor tested her nervous system reflexes (knees
and elbows) and to my big surprise she had none! He confirmed this
was due to Adie's Syndrome.

He also told me that with time her pupil (which is quite dilated now)
will end up shrinking to a very small size.

As I read your messages, I realize that some of you have been
diagnosed a while ago...and I have a few unsanswered questions (as it
is sometimes hard to get precise information from a child and a
doctor) for which your help would be very appreciated.

1. Is the light really an issue for someone with that syndrome,
meaning is this what seems to cause the headaches?

2. She is now due for new prescription glasses; would it be justified
to get her lens that auto-shade in the sun?

3. Have any of you noticed lack of nervous reflexes also?

4. If her pupil ends up being very small eventually, won't it be hard
for her to see in the dark?

5. Does it have any impact on your vision (reading for example)?

5. Do you think there is anything I should be made aware of to help
her?

Thank you for your help.

From a worried mom.

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#1106 From: Kathy Erickson <ozzymommy1962@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Before Adies in one eye, now in both...
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Hi Carol ~ I have had Adies in my right eye for at least 15 years now. Pupil was huge ~ now it's getting small. Never got it in my left eye ~ yet. I have adjusted, though at  times I get frustrated. I agree, doctors get a real kick out of it all, saying things like they have heard of it but never have actually seen it, and could they bring in the other docs. or students in ~ or that they have never heard of it. Seems strange.

ga_carol11 <carol@...> wrote:
Well, this is a fun one.  I started about 4 years ago with Adies in my
right eye.  This developed after a really bad sinus infection.  Now
both eyes are dialated.  It actually has helped the headaches because
both eyes are taking in the same amount of light now.  I still live in
my sunglasses but they are stylish so I don't mind too much.  Has
anyone else's eyes "compensated" like this??

I did have a bit of fun with it a couple of weeks ago.  Went to my
regular doctor and a med student was taking my history and totally
freaked out when he saw my eyes.  How is it that most of the medical
community has no idea of this condition??  He spent an extra 30 minutes
with me talking about Adies. I told him to look up this group to see
what everyone else deals with.

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#1105 From: "ga_carol11" <carol@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 2:15 am
Subject: Before Adies in one eye, now in both...
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Well, this is a fun one.  I started about 4 years ago with Adies in my
right eye.  This developed after a really bad sinus infection.  Now
both eyes are dialated.  It actually has helped the headaches because
both eyes are taking in the same amount of light now.  I still live in
my sunglasses but they are stylish so I don't mind too much.  Has
anyone else's eyes "compensated" like this??

I did have a bit of fun with it a couple of weeks ago.  Went to my
regular doctor and a med student was taking my history and totally
freaked out when he saw my eyes.  How is it that most of the medical
community has no idea of this condition??  He spent an extra 30 minutes
with me talking about Adies. I told him to look up this group to see
what everyone else deals with.

Everyone have a great night!

#1104 From: Kathy Erickson <ozzymommy1962@...>
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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Bob,
     Thank you so much for responding. As far as the headaches ~ I am on Topamax twice a day, the very lowest dose possible. I feel that the more drugs you take, the more drugs you will have to take for the side effects from the drugs that you might not need so much of in the first place. So far, so good ~ but it is all in the early stages of getting used to the Topamax still. My headaches probably aren't so much from my Adies as they are migranes that I have been dealing with since I was a kid at 14 years old. I guess I thought everyone had blinding headaches all of the time, and I just dealt with them the best way Ithat I could.
     As far as Adies goes, I haven't let it get in the way very much in my past. Until reading a bit, I hadn't really noticed that my pupil went from *large* to *small*. I just thought that my vision was getting majorly nasty.  I did have to compensate a lot for the depth perception thing and all, but I am so accustomed to compensating in life. I am in awe of people who have no arms and use their feet to paint and write and such. I am dyslexic, and believe it or not ~ did not realize it until I was over 30! I just kind of made up little rules and games for myself to help myself learn to read and stuff in school. I must admit, I still cannot play bingo or do word searches well at all.
     When the neurologist told me that Adies and Adies Holmes Syndrome are two different things, that kind of worried me a bit. Although, him saying that he wants to see me in six months to see how much I regress doesn't make me happy either. Yeah, I'm falling and tripping, have no reflexes, joint and muscle stuff going on, no balance, classic of the Holmes syndrome - from what I gather, it is a neurological thing. I still have a lot of research to do on this and it is tough because there isn't much info out there. Also, whatever you do happen to find conflicts with anything else you might find.
     I'm still not *sure* that the diagnosis of Holmes Adies is actually correct. We shall see - Eh?
Thanks For Listening,
Kath

Robert Batey <bobbikesandantiques@...> wrote:
Dear Kath ,
 
I share your thinking on the medical profession as I came up with the same lack of understanding ,strangely enough this has recent;y improved ,I am working in China now fpr more that two years and was gobsmacked when the local doctor told me I had Aidies , she was very up to date on this condition and it appears that she had a lot of experience.
She told me dont worry you have to live with Aidies and dont die with it neither will you end up with a walking cane unless some other illness befalls you as well.
I have had this condition for more than 20 years and now forget about it , yes there are headaches but you can deal with this , I agree done let people mess with you eyes
 
Hope a little comfort in theis finding
 
Regards
 
Bob Batey

Denise Thilmony <pollyanna95926@...> wrote:
Hi,
I just have a quick question for you. Can you tell me
the medicine that your doctor was referring to? I am
curious as to what kind of side effects that the
medicine in question might have. I take Pilocarpine
drops and I worry about the side effects that they
might have. Although, I have read several people that
take them, without any problems.
Thank you,
Denise

--- Rita Cullum <ritac42@...> wrote:

> When I went to the nuro-opthamologist, he put a
> solution of medicine that had actual cocaine in my
> eyes to make sure I had Adies.  My pupil did what it
> was suppose to do and he announced I had Adies.
> Then
> I had to do some eye exercises with these moving
> beams
> of lights and dots and a control in my hand to push
> when I saw these lights and dots.  He told me that
> there was nothing to do about Adies and the medicine
> he could prescribe had bad side effects, but he did
> give me the choice.  I left owing a big bill for a
> second opinion that I had Adies.
>
> --- ozzymommy1962 <ozzymommy1962@...> wrote:
>
> >      Wow - so many people with the same problem! I
> > thought I was the
> > only one with this *syndrome*. Quite the
> frustrating
> > little bugger -
> > it is! I went to the regular doc yesterday. The
> > neurologist wanted
> > her to perscribe drugs for the headaches. Why
> didn't
> > He help me with
> > that??? I am VERY sceptical of docs., and will not
> > go through life
> > all drugged up (unless I was terminal). They just
> > seem to make a bit
> > too many mistakes, so I always question their
> > decisions - ticking off
> > more than my share of professionals, I'm sure,
> > mainly the one's that
> > feel that patients should be seen and not heard.
> >      Anyway, she perscribed Triazalam, to help me
> > sleep, which I will
> > gladly take being as I haven't slept *normal* in
> > close to 25 years.
> > Does anyone have problems sleeping????
> >      She aslo ordered me up some beta blockers -
> > Atenolol - to
> > prevent migraines. I have very low blood pressure
> as
> > it is and don't
> > want to take this. I e-mailed the doc. and asked
> her
> > if there was
> > anything else I could use. Anyone else have
> chronic
> > migraines????
> >      The last drug she ordered me was Amerge, a
> six
> > pill perscription
> > that costs WAY too much. So, I cannot justify the
> > cost and will not
> > be taking those either.
> >      This doc. never even heard of Holmes Adies
> > Syndrome!!! She was
> > asking me questions!?!? I am supposed to go and
> see
> > a neuro -
> > opthomologist (spelling???) Honestly, I don't know
> > what he is
> > supposed to do to help me. Has anyone else gone to
> > one of these
> > specialists??? I won't let him mess with my
> pupils.
> >      I hope that I am doing this correctly. Am I
> > supposed to go to
> > the site and post - or answer e-mails??? Do the
> > e-mails go to this
> > site as well as the individuals???
> >      The neurologist told me that I will end up
> > using a cain - anyone
> > have that prognosis yet??? Does anyone know if the
> > joints are
> > affected to the point of cains, or walkers, or
> > wheelchairs???
> >      Does anyone know of any books that are aimed
> at
> > Adies and it's
> > wonderful little *syndrome*???? (excuse the
> attitude
> > please - it's a
> > very sunny day)
> >       
> >        Hope to hear from someone soon,
> >                Thanks,
> >                 Kath
> >     
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#1103 From: Robert Batey <bobbikesandantiques@...>
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 3:03 am
Subject: Re: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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Dear Kath ,
 
I share your thinking on the medical profession as I came up with the same lack of understanding ,strangely enough this has recent;y improved ,I am working in China now fpr more that two years and was gobsmacked when the local doctor told me I had Aidies , she was very up to date on this condition and it appears that she had a lot of experience.
She told me dont worry you have to live with Aidies and dont die with it neither will you end up with a walking cane unless some other illness befalls you as well.
I have had this condition for more than 20 years and now forget about it , yes there are headaches but you can deal with this , I agree done let people mess with you eyes
 
Hope a little comfort in theis finding
 
Regards
 
Bob Batey

Denise Thilmony <pollyanna95926@...> wrote:
Hi,
I just have a quick question for you. Can you tell me
the medicine that your doctor was referring to? I am
curious as to what kind of side effects that the
medicine in question might have. I take Pilocarpine
drops and I worry about the side effects that they
might have. Although, I have read several people that
take them, without any problems.
Thank you,
Denise

--- Rita Cullum <ritac42@...> wrote:

> When I went to the nuro-opthamologist, he put a
> solution of medicine that had actual cocaine in my
> eyes to make sure I had Adies.  My pupil did what it
> was suppose to do and he announced I had Adies.
> Then
> I had to do some eye exercises with these moving
> beams
> of lights and dots and a control in my hand to push
> when I saw these lights and dots.  He told me that
> there was nothing to do about Adies and the medicine
> he could prescribe had bad side effects, but he did
> give me the choice.  I left owing a big bill for a
> second opinion that I had Adies.
>
> --- ozzymommy1962 <ozzymommy1962@...> wrote:
>
> >      Wow - so many people with the same problem! I
> > thought I was the
> > only one with this *syndrome*. Quite the
> frustrating
> > little bugger -
> > it is! I went to the regular doc yesterday. The
> > neurologist wanted
> > her to perscribe drugs for the headaches. Why
> didn't
> > He help me with
> > that??? I am VERY sceptical of docs., and will not
> > go through life
> > all drugged up (unless I was terminal). They just
> > seem to make a bit
> > too many mistakes, so I always question their
> > decisions - ticking off
> > more than my share of professionals, I'm sure,
> > mainly the one's that
> > feel that patients should be seen and not heard.
> >      Anyway, she perscribed Triazalam, to help me
> > sleep, which I will
> > gladly take being as I haven't slept *normal* in
> > close to 25 years.
> > Does anyone have problems sleeping????
> >      She aslo ordered me up some beta blockers -
> > Atenolol - to
> > prevent migraines. I have very low blood pressure
> as
> > it is and don't
> > want to take this. I e-mailed the doc. and asked
> her
> > if there was
> > anything else I could use. Anyone else have
> chronic
> > migraines????
> >      The last drug she ordered me was Amerge, a
> six
> > pill perscription
> > that costs WAY too much. So, I cannot justify the
> > cost and will not
> > be taking those either.
> >      This doc. never even heard of Holmes Adies
> > Syndrome!!! She was
> > asking me questions!?!? I am supposed to go and
> see
> > a neuro -
> > opthomologist (spelling???) Honestly, I don't know
> > what he is
> > supposed to do to help me. Has anyone else gone to
> > one of these
> > specialists??? I won't let him mess with my
> pupils.
> >      I hope that I am doing this correctly. Am I
> > supposed to go to
> > the site and post - or answer e-mails??? Do the
> > e-mails go to this
> > site as well as the individuals???
> >      The neurologist told me that I will end up
> > using a cain - anyone
> > have that prognosis yet??? Does anyone know if the
> > joints are
> > affected to the point of cains, or walkers, or
> > wheelchairs???
> >      Does anyone know of any books that are aimed
> at
> > Adies and it's
> > wonderful little *syndrome*???? (excuse the
> attitude
> > please - it's a
> > very sunny day)
> >       
> >        Hope to hear from someone soon,
> >                Thanks,
> >                 Kath
> >     
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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#1102 From: Denise Thilmony <pollyanna95926@...>
Date: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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Hi,
I just have a quick question for you. Can you tell me
the medicine that your doctor was referring to? I am
curious as to what kind of side effects that the
medicine in question might have. I take Pilocarpine
drops and I worry about the side effects that they
might have. Although, I have read several people that
take them, without any problems.
Thank you,
Denise

--- Rita Cullum <ritac42@...> wrote:

> When I went to the nuro-opthamologist, he put a
> solution of medicine that had actual cocaine in my
> eyes to make sure I had Adies.  My pupil did what it
> was suppose to do and he announced I had Adies.
> Then
> I had to do some eye exercises with these moving
> beams
> of lights and dots and a control in my hand to push
> when I saw these lights and dots.  He told me that
> there was nothing to do about Adies and the medicine
> he could prescribe had bad side effects, but he did
> give me the choice.  I left owing a big bill for a
> second opinion that I had Adies.
>
> --- ozzymommy1962 <ozzymommy1962@...> wrote:
>
> >      Wow - so many people with the same problem! I
> > thought I was the
> > only one with this *syndrome*. Quite the
> frustrating
> > little bugger -
> > it is! I went to the regular doc yesterday. The
> > neurologist wanted
> > her to perscribe drugs for the headaches. Why
> didn't
> > He help me with
> > that??? I am VERY sceptical of docs., and will not
> > go through life
> > all drugged up (unless I was terminal). They just
> > seem to make a bit
> > too many mistakes, so I always question their
> > decisions - ticking off
> > more than my share of professionals, I'm sure,
> > mainly the one's that
> > feel that patients should be seen and not heard.
> >      Anyway, she perscribed Triazalam, to help me
> > sleep, which I will
> > gladly take being as I haven't slept *normal* in
> > close to 25 years.
> > Does anyone have problems sleeping????
> >      She aslo ordered me up some beta blockers -
> > Atenolol - to
> > prevent migraines. I have very low blood pressure
> as
> > it is and don't
> > want to take this. I e-mailed the doc. and asked
> her
> > if there was
> > anything else I could use. Anyone else have
> chronic
> > migraines????
> >      The last drug she ordered me was Amerge, a
> six
> > pill perscription
> > that costs WAY too much. So, I cannot justify the
> > cost and will not
> > be taking those either.
> >      This doc. never even heard of Holmes Adies
> > Syndrome!!! She was
> > asking me questions!?!? I am supposed to go and
> see
> > a neuro -
> > opthomologist (spelling???) Honestly, I don't know
> > what he is
> > supposed to do to help me. Has anyone else gone to
> > one of these
> > specialists??? I won't let him mess with my
> pupils.
> >      I hope that I am doing this correctly. Am I
> > supposed to go to
> > the site and post - or answer e-mails??? Do the
> > e-mails go to this
> > site as well as the individuals???
> >      The neurologist told me that I will end up
> > using a cain - anyone
> > have that prognosis yet??? Does anyone know if the
> > joints are
> > affected to the point of cains, or walkers, or
> > wheelchairs???
> >      Does anyone know of any books that are aimed
> at
> > Adies and it's
> > wonderful little *syndrome*???? (excuse the
> attitude
> > please - it's a
> > very sunny day)
> >
> >        Hope to hear from someone soon,
> >                Thanks,
> >                 Kath
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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#1101 From: "michaela_rees" <michaela_rees@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: treatments
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Hi Lucy
thanks i will try some of the things you mentioned, my daughter
suffers alot with sinus problems, i read that dairy products, produces
mucus which can worsen the condition, i don't know if you know that, i
told my daughter this but she won't give up cheese or other dairy
products, to find out if it makes things better, she has a constant
cold and sinus most of the time.
Anyway i hope you have a good pregnancy and all goes well, its so
exciting a new baby, look after yourself.
Love Michaela x

#1100 From: lucy gleeson <lucygleeson1uk@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: treatments
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hiya
congrats on becoming a grandmother!!
i have reflexology and use homeopathic remedies.  i
find it takes a little longer for results but they are
more long term, also something called phytobiophysics
which has been amazing for my sinus problems. it helps
more because it gives you some possible answers as to
why the body is imbalanced i.e viruses you may be
carrying etc.
as i said each to their own but if it helps anyone
else then that is great.
i hope all is well with you
lucy
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Hi Lucy
Thats Great news that your having a baby, i hope
everything goes well
and that you will be very happy.
Ive just become a grandmother and she's beautiful, her
name is Holly.
You said you had treatments of some kind that helped
you, can you tell
me what you had, im interested in natural treatment
and would prefer
that then stuff from the doctors, which don't really
work anyway and
give bad side effects.
Sorry i did't meet up with you we didn't get much time
in London when
i went to Moorfields, i was in there for five hours
waiting to see the
doctor, for him to spend ten minutes with him waste of
time.
We are planning to come down again for a few days
break in tha near
future maybe we can met up then.
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#1099 From: Rita Cullum <ritac42@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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When I went to the nuro-opthamologist, he put a
solution of medicine that had actual cocaine in my
eyes to make sure I had Adies.  My pupil did what it
was suppose to do and he announced I had Adies.  Then
I had to do some eye exercises with these moving beams
of lights and dots and a control in my hand to push
when I saw these lights and dots.  He told me that
there was nothing to do about Adies and the medicine
he could prescribe had bad side effects, but he did
give me the choice.  I left owing a big bill for a
second opinion that I had Adies.

--- ozzymommy1962 <ozzymommy1962@...> wrote:

>      Wow - so many people with the same problem! I
> thought I was the
> only one with this *syndrome*. Quite the frustrating
> little bugger -
> it is! I went to the regular doc yesterday. The
> neurologist wanted
> her to perscribe drugs for the headaches. Why didn't
> He help me with
> that??? I am VERY sceptical of docs., and will not
> go through life
> all drugged up (unless I was terminal). They just
> seem to make a bit
> too many mistakes, so I always question their
> decisions - ticking off
> more than my share of professionals, I'm sure,
> mainly the one's that
> feel that patients should be seen and not heard.
>      Anyway, she perscribed Triazalam, to help me
> sleep, which I will
> gladly take being as I haven't slept *normal* in
> close to 25 years.
> Does anyone have problems sleeping????
>      She aslo ordered me up some beta blockers -
> Atenolol - to
> prevent migraines. I have very low blood pressure as
> it is and don't
> want to take this. I e-mailed the doc. and asked her
> if there was
> anything else I could use. Anyone else have chronic
> migraines????
>      The last drug she ordered me was Amerge, a six
> pill perscription
> that costs WAY too much. So, I cannot justify the
> cost and will not
> be taking those either.
>      This doc. never even heard of Holmes Adies
> Syndrome!!! She was
> asking me questions!?!? I am supposed to go and see
> a neuro -
> opthomologist (spelling???) Honestly, I don't know
> what he is
> supposed to do to help me. Has anyone else gone to
> one of these
> specialists??? I won't let him mess with my pupils.
>      I hope that I am doing this correctly. Am I
> supposed to go to
> the site and post - or answer e-mails??? Do the
> e-mails go to this
> site as well as the individuals???
>      The neurologist told me that I will end up
> using a cain - anyone
> have that prognosis yet??? Does anyone know if the
> joints are
> affected to the point of cains, or walkers, or
> wheelchairs???
>      Does anyone know of any books that are aimed at
> Adies and it's
> wonderful little *syndrome*???? (excuse the attitude
> please - it's a
> very sunny day)
>
>        Hope to hear from someone soon,
>                Thanks,
>                 Kath
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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#1098 From: "michaela_rees" <michaela_rees@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: treatments
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Hi Lucy
Thats Great news that your having a baby, i hope everything goes well
and that you will be very happy.
Ive just become a grandmother and she's beautiful, her name is Holly.
You said you had treatments of some kind that helped you, can you tell
me what you had, im interested in natural treatment and would prefer
that then stuff from the doctors, which don't really work anyway and
give bad side effects.
Sorry i did't meet up with you we didn't get much time in London when
i went to Moorfields, i was in there for five hours waiting to see the
doctor, for him to spend ten minutes with him waste of time.
We are planning to come down again for a few days break in tha near
future maybe we can met up then.
Michaela

#1097 From: lucy gleeson <lucygleeson1uk@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:38 am
Subject: treatments
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hi everyone
i read all your messages with interest, i've now had
adies for about 3 years, i just wanted to add that
although everyone has their own way of treating their
symptoms - i have only really used an alternative
approach as i don't trust western medicine terribly
most of the time! all i can report is that i've found
it terribly effective and insightful - so much so that
i don't ever really think about the condition much
anymore. this obviously varies from person to person
but hope that this is helpful.
i'm also pregnant now and have gone from someone who
lost their confidence getting this condition to having
a really good life again.
hope you are all well
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#1096 From: A Friend <hot_chica58368@...>
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:24 am
Subject: Re: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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I have adies in both sides, and my neurologist believes that it was caused by a mild to severe concussion on my left side. Although I have Adies in both eyes, my right side has been much more affected than my left.  I have diminished reflexes and feeling, mostly in my right side.  Although the loss of feeling is still moderate, my optha neurologist has not predicted it getting any worse or that I may need a cane in the future.  When he diagnosed me he was not dissapointed, but slightly awed by it, because he has so few patients with it.  I was diagnosed just over a year ago and he has told me that from here on out my symptoms should not get any worse for four maybe five years.  Which is when he predicted that my pupils will become too small. From what he said, this can take anywhere between three and ten years, and some never become too small, but I have yet to hear of anyone needing a walker, cane or wheelchair simply because of adies.  One last thing that he told me is that since my diagnosis I have shown signs of fibromyalgia.  I do have a family history of it, but some of the more severe symptoms that I've had may be caused by that.

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#1095 From: "MStafford" <Mstafford220@...>
Date: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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Kathy,
     I'm not sure where you live, if it might be in a high lyme disease area, but, a dilated pupil can be a sign of neurological lyme.  If not treated, lyme is progressive.
     Back to Adie's...When you trip, have you noticed if the side with Adie is the cause?
Don't know if the slowed reflexes are the problem.
     Also, because of slow focusing, there may be a problem with depth perception.  It is usually happens when something is very close.  
    I was afraid it would cause problems playing sports like baseball or basketball when you have to focus on a moving target.  I had a fear that I would get hit in the face when I had a catch with my son.  It has not caused a problem though.
     Everyone seems to have a different degree of problems because it is a syndrome.  Most have a problem with light and headaches.  Some don't have a knee or ankle reflex on the Adie side ( Adie's is asymetrical).
Some have strange sweating patterns (my left forarm does not sweat).
     Adie's alone means you have a dilated pupil.  When you have Adie's Syndrome, it means you have additional signs, lack or absent reflexes, changes in sweating, light sensitivity with possible headaches.
     You should not have to take anything for Adie's except pilocarpine drops for the pupil which some people find helpful.
      Hope some of this is helpful.  Keep researching and continue to ask those docs questions. 
ms
    

#1094 From: "michaela_rees" <michaela_rees@...>
Date: Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:43 pm
Subject: Pilocarpine
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Hi Petra
I used a low dose of pilocarpin yesterday, and i did't feel as bad
this time, i think it helped me a bit outside in the natural light,
but when i went into the shop with alot of halogen lights i started to
get really bad headaches so i left the shop.
I find halogen lights terrible, i can't go into shops with these
lights, they make me really ill and in so much pain and thats with
sunglasses and a cap on.
Does anybody else find these lights intolerable? there almost in every
shop these days, the shops are getter brighter with all these spot
lights its becomming more impossible to go in them.
Im thinking of shopping from catalogues for my clothes, i think it
will be less stressful.
Regards to all
Michaela

#1093 From: Kathy Erickson <ozzymommy1962@...>
Date: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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Thank you for the reply - I'm not sure of your name.
     I was diagnosed with Adies in 1990. I was diagnosed with Holmes Adies Syndrome about a month ago. According to my neurologist, they are two different things. Having Adies does not mean that you will develope Holmes Adies Syndrome?? I don't know?? Trusting doctors is not something that I am accustomed to doing. That is why I am trying to find out as much as I can about this little known *syndrome*. From what I gather from this group, it seems that symptoms vary. For a few years now I have been concerned that I had MS, the neurologist ruled that out. I have been falling a lot, on flat ground and stairs. I'm tripping over my own two feet,  just 2 of  the problems I have been having the past few years. My regular doc. writes perscriptions like they are candy. Out of the many she has written the past couple of months, I only take one and keep another on hand. I'll be changing primary docs. soon.
     My nuerologist said that I may end up using a cane, I added the question of a walker or chair - because so little is known. He had me make an appointment to come back in six months to see if I have gotten worse, and if so - how much worse. Probably because of my symptoms. Who knows - I may go back in six months, and he may tell me I have something totally different and send me off somewhere else. I am trying to research this as much as possible, though not much is out there at all. It is very frustrating.
                                                          Kath

MStafford <Mstafford220@...> wrote:
Kath,
     Not much is known about this syndrome.  Please be aware that other
illnesses share some of the same symptoms.
      The neurologist I saw was not impressed with my Adie Syndrome.
I'd be curious to know why the neurologist you saw has already fortold a
future with canes and wheelchairs.  I have not seen any long term
information, and  I am also interested in muscle and joint problems.
     I have had this syndrome since 1992.
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#1092 From: "MStafford" <Mstafford220@...>
Date: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:38 am
Subject: Re: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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Kath,
      Not much is known about this syndrome.  Please be aware that other
illnesses share some of the same symptoms.
       The neurologist I saw was not impressed with my Adie Syndrome.
I'd be curious to know why the neurologist you saw has already fortold a
future with canes and wheelchairs.  I have not seen any long term
information, and  I am also interested in muscle and joint problems.
      I have had this syndrome since 1992.
ms

#1091 From: "ozzymommy1962" <ozzymommy1962@...>
Date: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:42 pm
Subject: Holmes Adie's Syndrome
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Wow - so many people with the same problem! I thought I was the
only one with this *syndrome*. Quite the frustrating little bugger -
it is! I went to the regular doc yesterday. The neurologist wanted
her to perscribe drugs for the headaches. Why didn't He help me with
that??? I am VERY sceptical of docs., and will not go through life
all drugged up (unless I was terminal). They just seem to make a bit
too many mistakes, so I always question their decisions - ticking off
more than my share of professionals, I'm sure, mainly the one's that
feel that patients should be seen and not heard.
      Anyway, she perscribed Triazalam, to help me sleep, which I will
gladly take being as I haven't slept *normal* in close to 25 years.
Does anyone have problems sleeping????
      She aslo ordered me up some beta blockers - Atenolol - to
prevent migraines. I have very low blood pressure as it is and don't
want to take this. I e-mailed the doc. and asked her if there was
anything else I could use. Anyone else have chronic migraines????
      The last drug she ordered me was Amerge, a six pill perscription
that costs WAY too much. So, I cannot justify the cost and will not
be taking those either.
      This doc. never even heard of Holmes Adies Syndrome!!! She was
asking me questions!?!? I am supposed to go and see a neuro -
opthomologist (spelling???) Honestly, I don't know what he is
supposed to do to help me. Has anyone else gone to one of these
specialists??? I won't let him mess with my pupils.
      I hope that I am doing this correctly. Am I supposed to go to
the site and post - or answer e-mails??? Do the e-mails go to this
site as well as the individuals???
      The neurologist told me that I will end up using a cain - anyone
have that prognosis yet??? Does anyone know if the joints are
affected to the point of cains, or walkers, or wheelchairs???
      Does anyone know of any books that are aimed at Adies and it's
wonderful little *syndrome*???? (excuse the attitude please - it's a
very sunny day)

        Hope to hear from someone soon,
                Thanks,
                 Kath

#1090 From: "pesuwue" <petra.sutton@...>
Date: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: Holmes - Adie's Syndrome
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--Hallo Michaela, I had very similar symptoms and now I use a very low
dosage. I get drops from my pharmacy that contains 2 ml Pilocarpin 1%
drops in 8 ml of Dry-Eye-Drops. It works very fine for me, I normally
uses them twice a day, but I needed some trying to find the right
dosage. Hope I can help you with my experiences,
Petra
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<michaela_rees@y...> wrote:
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> Hi Julia
> I have tried pilicarpine, but i still got the pain and when it srunk
> my pupil down, i got pain from that too and also i was getting
> tightness across my chest every time i used it which took hours to
> ease off, so im not sure if i should try them again.
> what kind of symptoms did you first get from using them and how long
> before you got more use to them.
> KInd Regards
> Michaela
>

#1089 From: jm44dog@...
Date: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:55 am
Subject: Re: Re: Holmes - Adie's Syndrome
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 I mostly had unequal vision in both eyes while using the pilocarpine in my Adie's right eye--what strength PIlocarpine did you use?  I have gotten the best results from Pilocarpine Hci 2% although I started at 4% and then went to 1%, then finally after many years, settled in at 2%.  I never had any tightness in my chest or anything like that. I actually use the drops now in both eyes because then they start out the same--with the pupils roughly reduced the same amount by the drops, and as the drops wear off, my vision pretty much remains the same in both eyes. Probably not the solution for everyone, but it has worked for me.  I do recall feeling some discomfort initally when using the drops--that I promise goes away adter your eye becomes used to Pilocarpine.   A good opthamalogist can work with you on finding the right strength for you.
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Sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:19:34 -0000
Subject: [adie_syndrome] Re: Holmes - Adie's Syndrome

Hi Julia
I have tried pilicarpine, but i still got the pain and when it srunk my pupil down, i got pain from that too and also i was getting tightness across my chest every time i used it which took hours to ease off, so im not sure if i should try them again.
what kind of symptoms did you first get from using them and how long before you got more use to them.
KInd Regards
Michaela
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#1088 From: "michaela_rees" <michaela_rees@...>
Date: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:19 am
Subject: Re: Holmes - Adie's Syndrome
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Hi Julia
I have tried pilicarpine, but i still got the pain and when it srunk
my pupil down, i got pain from that too and also i was getting
tightness across my chest every time i used it which took hours to
ease off, so im not sure if i should try them again.
what kind of symptoms did you first get from using them and how long
before you got more use to them.
KInd Regards
Michaela

#1087 From: jm44dog@...
Date: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:00 am
Subject: Re: Re: Holmes - Adie's Syndrome
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 Michaela:
 
Why don't you try the PIlocarpine drops?  Try them--they may be just what will ease many of these symptoms you are experiencing--I hate to see you suffer so, when there is a drug that may help you.  As I have said before, I have used Pilocarpine since I was diagnosed 18 years ago--it took some getting used to, but I persevered and I am so glad I did--why not see an Opthamologist and ask to try them--they truly might help you.
 
Julie Marsh
 
-----Original Message-----
From: michaela_rees <michaela_rees@...>
To: adie_syndrome@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:44:06 -0000
Subject: [adie_syndrome] Re: Holmes - Adie's Syndrome

Thankyou Linda
I will try to do more things to relax, i think your right about stress not causing Adeis, because there are so many people under stress, so Adeis would be more common, i agree stress will make what ever comdition you have worse.
But i can't seem to stop the tension Adeis causes me, the lights just tence up my muscules in my head and i can't stop that, and then i get terrible headaches and sickness constantly, only by getting out of light into a darkend room the headaches start to ease off, but i cannot stay in a dark room all day to prevent this happening, so i just have to get the headaches if i have to get on wih my life, it is terrible but there is nothing else i can do about it.
Thankyou all for writing to me and giving me your support and idea's.
Kind Regards
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