wow what a story i think i would have freaked out really that was some story i
can't imagine that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. just the other day my son asked me mom i need
to ask you a question i said im i will listen to you when you need to ask me
questions i told him please feel free anytime to ask me something so he is in
the first grade and and will be 7 in just 4 months i cant believe it though here
is the question that he asked me he said how do you french kiss now all the
questions in the world he just had to ask me that i said what on earth who are
you talking to aouy this ahh he said oh my friend was just telling me this oh my
this is just beginning i told him i did not know what it is lol

reeniestavros <Hereiamrs@...> wrote:          Hi Barb,

This sure makes one count there blessing. Being the mother of two
teenage daughters, my thirteen year old daughter Danielle and my soon
to be 17 year old daughter Jessie makes me realize, that things could
always be worse. Even though just today Jessie came home with a new
peircing a bar going through her ear. Lord help us! ;)

Reenie

--- In adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com, "barbjay"
<barbjay@...> wrote:
>
> This makes you think and put things in perspective! Seeing as my
DS is 14, it really "spoke" to me!
>
> Barb
> Mom to 2 in IL
>
> Subject: why parents have gray hair
>
>
> A father passing by his son's bedroom was astonished
> to see the bed nicely made up and everything neat and
> tidy.
>
>
>
> Then he saw an envelope propped up prominently on the pillow. It
was addressed, "Dad"
>
>
>
> With the worst premonition, he opened the envelope and read the
letter with trembling hands:
>
> Dear Dad, It is with great regret and sorrow that I'm writing you.
I had to elope with my new girlfriend because I wanted to avoid a
scene with you and Mom.
>
> I've been finding real passion with Joan and she is so nice. I
knew you would not approve of her because of all her piercing,
tattoos,her tight motorcycle clothes and because she is so much older
than I am but it's
> not only the passion, Dad, she's pregnant.
>
> Joan says that we are going to be very happy. She owns a trailer in
the woods and has a stack of firewood, enough for the whole winter.
We share a dream of having many more children.
>
> Joan has opened my eyes to the fact that marijuana doesn't really
hurt anyone. We'll be growing it and trading it with the other people
in the commune for all the cocaine and ecstasy we want.
>
> In the meantime, we'll pray that science will find a cure for AIDS
so Joan can get better; she sure deserves it!
>
> Don't worry Dad, I'm 15 years old now and I know how to take care
of myself. Someday, I'm sure we'll be back to visit so you can get to
know your grandchildren.
>
> Your son,
>
> Chad
>
> P.S. Dad, none of the above is true. I'm over at Tommy's house. I
just wanted to remind you that there are worse things in life than
the report card that's in my desk drawer.
>
> I love you! Call when it is safe for me to come home.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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Yes, I have that book, too.  It is a little different format.  Apparently it was
written after "Driven to Distraction" and before "Delivered from Distraction". 
Good book.

Barb
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Heather Falls
   To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:50 PM
   Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] Is this normal???


   Barb,

   I talked with the local CHADD leader today and she also recommended "Answers
to distraction" by the same authors. She said it's old, but you may be able to
find it at the library.

   Heather

   barbjay <barbjay@...> wrote:
   Well, I applaud your interest in doing what's best for your granddaughter. I
can understand how frustrating it must be for you to urge your daughter to take
your granddaughter to a psychologist and she hasn't done it yet.

   I am curious. Who diagnosed your granddaughter with ADHD? Has she been
diagnosed? I know from my own experience that it is not easy to face the
possibility that there is something wrong with your child. And sometimes, that
causes us to ignore it and hope it goes away. However, that doesn't work at all.
I have learned that it is much better to find out what you're dealing with than
guess and just plain not know.

   I would say you need to have a frank talk with your daughter and explain that
your granddaughter's health depends on her following through with whatever she
needs to be healthy (physically and mentally). Perhaps your daughter doesn't
fully realize the importance. I don't know.

   I would recommend reading DELIVERED FROM DISTRACTION by Drs. Ed Hallowell and
John Ratey, both psychiatrists who have ADHD. It is a practical and positive
guide to dealing with ADHD. It is also on CD. Perhaps if your daughter (and you,
too) learned more about it, that would help move things along in whatever
direction needs to be taken.

   I would also suggest you check out this web site for your local chapter of
CHADD, an ADHD support group:
   http://chadd.org

   Oh, another book title that might be of interest is THE GIFT OF ADHD.

   Good luck.

   Barb
   Mom to 2 in IL
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: grndma2lia@...
   To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:26 AM
   Subject: [ADHD Parents Support Group] Is this normal???

   I wrote before stating my 7yo granddaughter was put on Concerta. She has
   done pretty well, although due to sleeplessness, the dr lowered her dose from
   36mg to 27mg. She is still having problems sleeping, and without any
reasoning,
   her mother stopped giving her the melatonin. (I asked why she stopped but
   never really got an answer) When my grand daughter went back to the dr for her
   2wk checkup after being placed on the Concerta, she had lost 5 lbs. Now, she
   went in today for a checkup so they can renew prescription, and she has lost
   another 3 lbs.

   She is 7yo and pretty tall for her age. In the beginning the dr said she is
   ok, today they told my daughter she should be 50lb at her age/height. BUT
   then he tells her if she wants she can give her a Boost (drink) once a day if
   needed. My daughter then told the dr how my grand daughter will begin hitting
   herself, not hard, but like in the face/head. And that she gets moody. One
   minute, upbeat and happy, and the next she will be very sad and say things
like
   nobody loves her, everybody ignores her, etc. The dr didn't think much of
   it. I thought that was odd, as he told us in the beginning we needed to watch
   her for certain things, as the Concerta can cause some side effects such as
   the moodiness and thoughts of suicide. While my grand daughter hasnt said
   anything pertaining to suicide, I worry about the way she is acting at times.

   I told my daughter is it imperative she follows through with the dr
   recommendations that she have her seen and talk to a psycologist. Hasnt been
done yet
   and I am upset my daughter isnt taking this seriously enough.

   Any thoughts, opinions and help would be appreciated!!

   THANKS

   michelle

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This was just too funny!

Mike


On Aug 31, 2006, at 3:23 PM, barbjay wrote:

> This makes you think and put things in perspective! Seeing as my DS
> is 14, it really "spoke" to me!
>
> Barb
> Mom to 2 in IL
>
> Subject: why parents have gray hair
>
> A father passing by his son's bedroom was astonished
> to see the bed nicely made up and everything neat and
> tidy.
>
> Then he saw an envelope propped up prominently on the pillow. It
> was addressed, "Dad"
>
> With the worst premonition, he opened the envelope and read the
> letter with trembling hands:
>
> Dear Dad, It is with great regret and sorrow that I'm writing you.
> I had to elope with my new girlfriend because I wanted to avoid a
> scene with you and Mom.
>
> I've been finding real passion with Joan and she is so nice. I knew
> you would not approve of her because of all her piercing,
> tattoos,her tight motorcycle clothes and because she is so much
> older than I am but it's
> not only the passion, Dad, she's pregnant.
>
> Joan says that we are going to be very happy. She owns a trailer in
> the woods and has a stack of firewood, enough for the whole winter.
> We share a dream of having many more children.
>
> Joan has opened my eyes to the fact that marijuana doesn't really
> hurt anyone. We'll be growing it and trading it with the other
> people in the commune for all the cocaine and ecstasy we want.
>
> In the meantime, we'll pray that science will find a cure for AIDS
> so Joan can get better; she sure deserves it!
>
> Don't worry Dad, I'm 15 years old now and I know how to take care
> of myself. Someday, I'm sure we'll be back to visit so you can get
> to know your grandchildren.
>
> Your son,
>
> Chad
>
> P.S. Dad, none of the above is true. I'm over at Tommy's house. I
> just wanted to remind you that there are worse things in life than
> the report card that's in my desk drawer.
>
> I love you! Call when it is safe for me to come home.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Barb,

   I talked with the local CHADD leader today and she also recommended "Answers
to distraction" by the same authors.  She said it's old, but you may be able to
find it at the library.

   Heather

barbjay <barbjay@...> wrote:
           Well, I applaud your interest in doing what's best for your
granddaughter. I can understand how frustrating it must be for you to urge your
daughter to take your granddaughter to a psychologist and she hasn't done it
yet.

I am curious. Who diagnosed your granddaughter with ADHD? Has she been
diagnosed? I know from my own experience that it is not easy to face the
possibility that there is something wrong with your child. And sometimes, that
causes us to ignore it and hope it goes away. However, that doesn't work at all.
I have learned that it is much better to find out what you're dealing with than
guess and just plain not know.

I would say you need to have a frank talk with your daughter and explain that
your granddaughter's health depends on her following through with whatever she
needs to be healthy (physically and mentally). Perhaps your daughter doesn't
fully realize the importance. I don't know.

I would recommend reading DELIVERED FROM DISTRACTION by Drs. Ed Hallowell and
John Ratey, both psychiatrists who have ADHD. It is a practical and positive
guide to dealing with ADHD. It is also on CD. Perhaps if your daughter (and you,
too) learned more about it, that would help move things along in whatever
direction needs to be taken.

I would also suggest you check out this web site for your local chapter of
CHADD, an ADHD support group:
http://chadd.org

Oh, another book title that might be of interest is THE GIFT OF ADHD.

Good luck.

Barb
Mom to 2 in IL
----- Original Message -----
From: grndma2lia@...
To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:26 AM
Subject: [ADHD Parents Support Group] Is this normal???

I wrote before stating my 7yo granddaughter was put on Concerta. She has
done pretty well, although due to sleeplessness, the dr lowered her dose from
36mg to 27mg. She is still having problems sleeping, and without any reasoning,
her mother stopped giving her the melatonin. (I asked why she stopped but
never really got an answer) When my grand daughter went back to the dr for her
2wk checkup after being placed on the Concerta, she had lost 5 lbs. Now, she
went in today for a checkup so they can renew prescription, and she has lost
another 3 lbs.

She is 7yo and pretty tall for her age. In the beginning the dr said she is
ok, today they told my daughter she should be 50lb at her age/height. BUT
then he tells her if she wants she can give her a Boost (drink) once a day if
needed. My daughter then told the dr how my grand daughter will begin hitting
herself, not hard, but like in the face/head. And that she gets moody. One
minute, upbeat and happy, and the next she will be very sad and say things like
nobody loves her, everybody ignores her, etc. The dr didn't think much of
it. I thought that was odd, as he told us in the beginning we needed to watch
her for certain things, as the Concerta can cause some side effects such as
the moodiness and thoughts of suicide. While my grand daughter hasnt said
anything pertaining to suicide, I worry about the way she is acting at times.

I told my daughter is it imperative she follows through with the dr
recommendations that she have her seen and talk to a psycologist. Hasnt been
done yet
and I am upset my daughter isnt taking this seriously enough.

Any thoughts, opinions and help would be appreciated!!

THANKS

michelle

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Hi Barb,

This sure makes one count there blessing.  Being the mother of two
teenage daughters, my thirteen year old daughter Danielle and my soon
to be 17 year old daughter Jessie makes me realize, that things could
always be worse.  Even though just today Jessie came home with a new
peircing a bar going through her ear.  Lord help us! ;)

Reenie

--- In adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com, "barbjay"
<barbjay@...> wrote:
>
> This makes you think and put things in perspective!  Seeing as my
DS is 14, it really "spoke" to me!
>
> Barb
> Mom to 2 in IL
>
> Subject: why parents have gray hair
>
>
> A father passing by his son's bedroom was astonished
> to see the bed nicely made up and everything neat and
> tidy.
>
>
>
> Then he saw an envelope propped up prominently on the pillow. It
was addressed, "Dad"
>
>
>
> With the worst premonition, he opened the envelope and read the
letter with trembling hands:
>
> Dear Dad, It is with great regret and sorrow that I'm writing you.
I had to elope with my new girlfriend because I wanted to avoid a
scene with you and Mom.
>
> I've been finding real passion with Joan and she is so nice.  I
knew you would not approve of her because of all her piercing,
tattoos,her tight motorcycle clothes and because she is so much older
than I am but it's
> not only the passion, Dad, she's pregnant.
>
> Joan says that we are going to be very happy. She owns a trailer in
the woods and has a stack of firewood, enough for the whole winter.
We share a dream of having many more children.
>
> Joan has opened my eyes to the fact that marijuana doesn't really
hurt anyone. We'll be growing it and trading it with the other people
in the commune for all the cocaine and ecstasy we want.
>
> In the meantime, we'll pray that science will find a cure for AIDS
so Joan can get better; she sure deserves it!
>
> Don't worry Dad, I'm 15 years old now and I know how to take care
of myself. Someday, I'm sure we'll be back to visit so you can get to
know your grandchildren.
>
> Your son,
>
>  Chad
>
> P.S. Dad, none of the above is true. I'm over at Tommy's house. I
just wanted to remind you that there are worse things in life than
the report card that's in my desk drawer.
>
> I love you! Call when it is safe for me to come home.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

This makes you think and put things in perspective!  Seeing as my DS is 14, it
really "spoke" to me!

Barb
Mom to 2 in IL

Subject: why parents have gray hair


A father passing by his son's bedroom was astonished
to see the bed nicely made up and everything neat and
tidy.



Then he saw an envelope propped up prominently on the pillow. It was addressed,
"Dad"



With the worst premonition, he opened the envelope and read the letter with
trembling hands:

Dear Dad, It is with great regret and sorrow that I'm writing you. I had to
elope with my new girlfriend because I wanted to avoid a scene with you and Mom.

I've been finding real passion with Joan and she is so nice.  I knew you would
not approve of her because of all her piercing, tattoos,her tight motorcycle
clothes and because she is so much older than I am but it's
not only the passion, Dad, she's pregnant.

Joan says that we are going to be very happy. She owns a trailer in the woods
and has a stack of firewood, enough for the whole winter. We share a dream of
having many more children.

Joan has opened my eyes to the fact that marijuana doesn't really hurt anyone.
We'll be growing it and trading it with the other people in the commune for all
the cocaine and ecstasy we want.

In the meantime, we'll pray that science will find a cure for AIDS so Joan can
get better; she sure deserves it!

Don't worry Dad, I'm 15 years old now and I know how to take care of myself.
Someday, I'm sure we'll be back to visit so you can get to know your
grandchildren.

Your son,

  Chad

P.S. Dad, none of the above is true. I'm over at Tommy's house. I just wanted to
remind you that there are worse things in life than the report card that's in my
desk drawer.

I love you! Call when it is safe for me to come home.






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One of my friends calls this "contract negotiation".

Angela :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Erin Schmidt" <deerhart@...>
To: <adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06



> We are also not above bribing the kids with a treat for behaving
>

Oh heavens, do I know what you mean!  I tried for a LONGGGGG  time to break my
DS of the habit, till I read it's function in DELIVERED FROM DISTRACTION (I
think I had said DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION before . . . DELIVERED is the sequel and
you don't need DRIVEN if you have DELIVERED.)

I have to say, DS does it somewhat less now (he's 14), and has found that a
"stress ball" serves this function for him, as well.  AND  IT'S  QUIET!!!!!  lol

Well, take care.

Barb
Mom to 2 in IL
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Angela Roller
   To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:12 PM
   Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06


   Keep reminding me of that! That's something I still find myself trying to
   get him to stop doing when we're doing school.

   Angela :-)

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "barbjay" <barbjay@...>
   To: <adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:57 PM
   Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06

   > Yes, Angela. I read that in DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION. I couldn't understand
   > my son's constant tapping and twirling his pencil/pen in his hand. Then
   > the words stood out in that wonderful book to shed light on this behavior.
   > It is exactly as you say . . . a calming thing for them so they are
   > actually ABLE to focus better and slow their brains down.
   >
   > Barb
   > Mom to 2 in IL





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Keep reminding me of that!  That's something I still find myself trying to
get him to stop doing when we're doing school.

Angela :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "barbjay" <barbjay@...>
To: <adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06


> Yes, Angela.  I read that in DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION.  I couldn't understand
> my son's constant tapping and twirling his pencil/pen in his hand.  Then
> the words stood out in that wonderful book to shed light on this behavior.
> It is exactly as you say . . . a calming thing for them so they are
> actually ABLE to focus better and slow their brains down.
>
> Barb
> Mom to 2 in IL

Yes, Angela.  I read that in DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION.  I couldn't understand my
son's constant tapping and twirling his pencil/pen in his hand.  Then the words
stood out in that wonderful book to shed light on this behavior.  It is exactly
as you say . . . a calming thing for them so they are actually ABLE to focus
better and slow their brains down.

Barb
Mom to 2 in IL
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Angela Roller
   To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:52 PM
   Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06


   I think others have said that it's how they calm themselves. Their brains
   are racing so fast, they need a way to focus their concentration, ie, pencil
   tapping, foot tapping, chewing, etc. Others explain it much more eloquently
   than I. :-)

   Angela :-)

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Shelly Ring" <sring@...>
   To: <adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:53 AM
   Subject: RE: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06

   > Thanks Angela! Do you think that the chewing is something that goes
   > along with the ADHD?
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Shelly Ring
   >
   > ________________________________
   >
   > From: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
   > [mailto:adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Angela
   > Roller
   > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:51 AM
   > To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
   > Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06
   >
   >
   >
   > Welcome to the group! You will get some good advice here. I wanted to
   > tell
   > you that our son's speech therapist gave him a "Chewy Tube". It's all
   > he's
   > allowed to chew on (although, even at 7, I still have to remind him to
   > get
   > it instead of the toy in his hand.) I think it's really helped him,
   > though.
   >
   > Angela :-)
   >
   > He chews on things constantly- he chewed a
   >> hole in my brand new blanket this weekend.
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Yahoo! Groups Links
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >





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It depends on the person.  For some it is a self calming technique, for
others its a sensory input thing.  I know for both myself and my son its
actually sensory input.  becuase we are hyperactive, we crave sensory input
ALL the time.  Thus even while trying to control the hyperactivity our
bodies have become use to an increased sensory intake that needs to be
maintained.  At school my son does this through squeeze balls, sensory
breaks, weighted objects etc..  For me i do it through increased typing
speed, chewing on pens, listening to music, chewing my nails, etc..

Not suprisingly, we can also go into sensory overload.  Both of us have/had
issues with tags in the clothes, water, dislike of shoes etc..  Even when I
am sleeping I have to maintain the sensory input through white noise and
heavy blankets!

On 8/31/06, Angela Roller <arroller@...> wrote:
>
>   I think others have said that it's how they calm themselves. Their
> brains
> are racing so fast, they need a way to focus their concentration, ie,
> pencil
> tapping, foot tapping, chewing, etc. Others explain it much more
> eloquently
> than I. :-)
>
> Angela :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shelly Ring" <sring@... <sring%40ffres.com>>
> To:
<adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com<adhdparentssupportgroup%40yahoogroups.c\
om>
> >
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06
>
> > Thanks Angela! Do you think that the chewing is something that goes
> > along with the ADHD?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Shelly Ring
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From:
adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com<adhdparentssupportgroup%40yahoogroups.co\
m>
> >
[mailto:adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com<adhdparentssupportgroup%40yahoog\
roups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Angela
> > Roller
> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:51 AM
> > To:
adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com<adhdparentssupportgroup%40yahoogroups.co\
m>
> > Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06
> >
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the group! You will get some good advice here. I wanted to
> > tell
> > you that our son's speech therapist gave him a "Chewy Tube". It's all
> > he's
> > allowed to chew on (although, even at 7, I still have to remind him to
> > get
> > it instead of the toy in his hand.) I think it's really helped him,
> > though.
> >
> > Angela :-)
> >
> > He chews on things constantly- he chewed a
> >> hole in my brand new blanket this weekend.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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I think others have said that it's how they calm themselves.  Their brains
are racing so fast, they need a way to focus their concentration, ie, pencil
tapping, foot tapping, chewing, etc.  Others explain it much more eloquently
than I.  :-)

Angela :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelly Ring" <sring@...>
To: <adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06


> Thanks Angela!  Do you think that the chewing is something that goes
> along with the ADHD?
>
>
>
>
>
> Shelly Ring
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Angela
> Roller
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:51 AM
> To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06
>
>
>
> Welcome to the group! You will get some good advice here. I wanted to
> tell
> you that our son's speech therapist gave him a "Chewy Tube". It's all
> he's
> allowed to chew on (although, even at 7, I still have to remind him to
> get
> it instead of the toy in his hand.) I think it's really helped him,
> though.
>
> Angela :-)
>
> He chews on things constantly- he chewed a
>> hole in my brand new blanket this weekend.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Trisha.  I am sorry that you are having such a rough time with your son.  What
does his therapist/psychiatrist say?  Is anything else being done besides
medication?  If he is choking you ad loosing his temper to that extent, it makes
me wonder a few things:

1.    Is it just ADHD?
2.    Do his medications need to be changed?  Sounds like it to me.
3.    Is he getting any behavior modification help?

Good luck.

Barb
Mom to 2 in IL
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Trisha
   To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:32 AM
   Subject: [ADHD Parents Support Group] help me


   i have a son who has been but on so myuch medicine for his problems
   and nothing seems to hel the other day he choked me and it took me
   forever to get him to calm down because when he gets upset he looses
   his temper and i have tried every technique to get his anger issues
   delt with and he is only 11 and he is involved with court stuff now





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Well, I applaud your interest in doing what's best for your granddaughter.  I
can understand how frustrating it must be for you to urge your daughter to take
your granddaughter to a psychologist and she hasn't done it yet.

I am curious.  Who diagnosed your granddaughter with ADHD?  Has she been
diagnosed?  I know from my own experience that it is not easy to face the
possibility that there is something wrong with your child.  And sometimes, that
causes us to ignore it and hope it goes away.  However, that doesn't work at
all.  I have learned that it is much better to find out what you're dealing with
than guess and just plain not know.

I would say you need to have a frank talk with your daughter and explain that
your granddaughter's health depends on her following through with whatever she
needs to be healthy (physically and mentally).   Perhaps your daughter doesn't
fully realize the importance.  I don't know.

I would recommend reading DELIVERED FROM DISTRACTION by Drs. Ed Hallowell and
John Ratey, both psychiatrists who have ADHD.  It is a practical and positive
guide to dealing with ADHD.  It is also on CD.  Perhaps if  your daughter (and
you, too) learned more about it, that would help move things along in whatever
direction needs to be taken.

I would also suggest you check out this web site for your local chapter of
CHADD, an ADHD support group:
http://chadd.org

Oh, another book title that might be of interest is THE GIFT OF ADHD.

Good luck.

Barb
Mom to 2 in IL
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: grndma2lia@...
   To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:26 AM
   Subject: [ADHD Parents Support Group] Is this normal???



   I wrote before stating my 7yo granddaughter was put on Concerta. She has
   done pretty well, although due to sleeplessness, the dr lowered her dose from
   36mg to 27mg. She is still having problems sleeping, and without any
reasoning,
   her mother stopped giving her the melatonin. (I asked why she stopped but
   never really got an answer) When my grand daughter went back to the dr for her
   2wk checkup after being placed on the Concerta, she had lost 5 lbs. Now, she
   went in today for a checkup so they can renew prescription, and she has lost
   another 3 lbs.

   She is 7yo and pretty tall for her age. In the beginning the dr said she is
   ok, today they told my daughter she should be 50lb at her age/height. BUT
   then he tells her if she wants she can give her a Boost (drink) once a day if
   needed. My daughter then told the dr how my grand daughter will begin hitting
   herself, not hard, but like in the face/head. And that she gets moody. One
   minute, upbeat and happy, and the next she will be very sad and say things
like
   nobody loves her, everybody ignores her, etc. The dr didn't think much of
   it. I thought that was odd, as he told us in the beginning we needed to watch
   her for certain things, as the Concerta can cause some side effects such as
   the moodiness and thoughts of suicide. While my grand daughter hasnt said
   anything pertaining to suicide, I worry about the way she is acting at times.

   I told my daughter is it imperative she follows through with the dr
   recommendations that she have her seen and talk to a psycologist. Hasnt been
done yet
   and I am upset my daughter isnt taking this seriously enough.

   Any thoughts, opinions and help would be appreciated!!

   THANKS


   michelle

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Hi Michelle,
Sounds like my son.  He is 8. He loves to agravate everyone.  Now nobody will
come by.  Sad isnt it?  Havent talked to my father in 5 yrs to this day.  My
Mother takes sides with her other grandchild 1 yr younger adhd too.  So I had it
with everyone.  I dont see them .  I havent talked to my mother in a week.  She
seems to think everything that happens is my sons fault when its clearly seen as
not.  He acts differently when he is around my mother because he must get a bad
feeling.  (oh well)   I did start him on the Foclin a wk ago.  Just for school. 
good so far.
Marria


----- Original Message ----
From: grndma2lia@...
To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:31:29 AM
Subject: [ADHD Parents Support Group] Re: Is this Normal I FORGOT TO ADD

Sorry, I forgot to add this. Since she has been on the Concerta, we HAVE
seen some positive changes in her as well. She can sit quietly for longer
periods of time, stay focused on whatever she is doing and summer school went
very
well. SHe stayed focused and completed more work than she did during regular
school. The biggest thing we heard about her was from my parents who during a
recent visit (last week) noticed a dramatic improvement in her. She was able
to stay with my parents while my daughter ran to the store, something I
wouldn't do in the past for fear of how it would go, My mom said she sat
quietly,
read a book, and she didn't aggravate anyone while she was there. She loved
to antagonize my father everytime she would visit there. So i am hoping this
is positive if others are noticing as well as ourselves

Michelle

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Hi Lisa you go to the main support group. go to members. and if you see the
orange yahoo.smily face that shows there on line.  You can im them if they are
on line.  There is no chat room.
Marria


----- Original Message ----
From: lisa <lkrmclean@...>
To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:04:47 AM
Subject: [ADHD Parents Support Group] chat room

Can someone tell me how to find the chat room???????Please, I am new to
this site and need to chat,
thanks,
Lisa.




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Yes it can be very had to find the right medication and while medication may
help some of the issues, it WILL NOT suddenly create the picture perfect
well behaved child.  All the medication will do is open the door for the
child to be able to learn to sustain their attention, control their activity
level etc.. the child still has to be TAUGHT these things, jsut like any
other child.  Though, usually the child is behind his age apporopriate
peers, thus what their peers learned 3-4 years ago, the child is just now
picking up.

As for side effects, they can range from insomnia, loss of appitite, mood
swings: both small ones and major ones, rebounding effects (as the meds wear
off the child's behaviors is much worse then it is not on meds), aggression,
increased anxiety, stunting of growth, heart problems, suicidal thoughts,
problems with other organs etc..  Some of these are rarer side effects
(organ issues, suicidal thoughts) others like insomnia, loss of appitite and
mood swings are rather common.

My son started on ritalin and after 2 montsh we noticed a lot more
aggressive and defiant behaviors, he was placed on concerta which lasted 2
whole days, with him having horrid mood swings, severe anxiety and rigidity
(to the point the school described it as him on pins and needles, shakey and
waiting to snap).  I refused to give it to him after the second day when he
came home, had threatened to hurt his grandmother because she woudln't do
what he said and then he burst into uncontrollable tears for the next 2
hours!   We then moved to Focalin, which was working fairly well for about 4
months, but over that time both his anxiety increased as did his defiant and
aggressive behaviors.  Since it was summer (and i was forgetting to give him
the meds at times) we really saw the difference in when we forgot the meds
and when he got them with these behaviors.  We discussed it with his Ped who
was conerned about them but unsure where to proceed from here and we pulled
him off the meds and he's been doing pretty good since then.

I remember when my oldest was 3.5 and had a new 1 yr old baby brother.
Besides the insitance that we put little brother back for the first 8 months
then for the next 4 montsh that baby brother needed to LEAVE (or we needed
to leave him) he also would ahve horrible tantrums, most lasting 2-3 hours
with some lasting well over 6-8 hours.  When I was pregnant (and getting
rather sick) and right after the baby was born, my oldest pretty much
completely shut down.  The pictures I have from that time frame are such a
differnet child (he woudln't look at the camera, very blank stares etc..)
looking back while we know there were a lot of things going on with him at
the time (speech delay, CAPD, hyperactivity) its pretty obvious he also had
some mood issues as well (hard to admit that your 2.5-3 year old can be
depressed but he had all the classic signs).  But with the turmoil in his
life at the time I can understand it!


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Sorry, I forgot to add this. Since she has been on the Concerta, we HAVE
seen some positive changes in her as well. She can sit quietly for longer
periods of time, stay focused on whatever she is doing and summer school went 
very
well. SHe stayed focused and completed more work than she did during  regular
school. The biggest thing we heard about her was from my parents who  during a
recent visit (last week) noticed a dramatic improvement in her. She was  able
to stay with my parents while my daughter ran to the store, something I
wouldn't do in the past for fear of how it would go, My mom said she sat 
quietly,
read a book, and she didn't aggravate anyone while she was there. She  loved
to antagonize my father everytime she would visit there.  So i am  hoping this
is positive if others are noticing as well as ourselves

Michelle


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Thanks for the information and advice!  I really do appreciate it.



We've been saying "he's just a 3 year old" and "he's a boy, what do you
expect?" for a year now and things just keep getting worse.  His
behavior was getting bad before I even got pregnant with Haley, but I do
agree that part of the problem is his jealousy towards his sister.  He
was so used to getting 100% of my attention and now he has to share it.
I know that's got to be rough on him.



Part of me does not want to just go straight to medication, but part of
me does.  If it really helps him, then it will in turn help the whole
family.  He's going to be evaluated by the therapist first and then his
pediatrician.  His pediatrician may refer us to a pediatric psychologist
before he gets put on any meds.  So, we may have a while to go.





Shelly Ring

________________________________

From: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Erin
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:35 AM
To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06



Hello
as a parent of 2 children with ADHD diagnoses at fairly young ages (my
oldest was tentively diagnosed at age 4 and offically diagnosed at age
5, my
youngest was tentaively diagnosed right after he turned 3) there are
some
things I would like to add from a more practical point.

It is still fairly normal for children that age to have tantrums and
outbursts, even more so for children with ADHD. Also with the
hyperactivity, these outbursts can be EXTREMELY prolonged, espeically if
you
fight the child. Depending on the child's personality, fighting can not
only increase the length of the outbursts but als othe intesity. This
was a
major problem with my oldest. he is VERY much like his mother and will
argue you into the ground especially if he feels he's right. When he
thinks
he's wrong, he will either try to talk his way out of it, negotiate or
just
give in. Both of my children also have strong independant personalities
which lead to a lot of conflict. We have found that offering controled
choices and changing our langague from demands to options made a huge
difference.

It also sounds like your son has some sensory issues (chewing) and like
many
kids with hyperactivity he may feed off the energy of others (ie: the
more
active people are around him the more hyper he gets). This makes places
like classrooms, malls, or anywhere wtih large number of people very
difficult for the child. While my oldest also has audiotry processing
problems, some things we have found that help when both kids get more
out of
control
- turn off the TV or anything else that is on, we have gone so far as to
turn off all the lights
- talking softly or whispering to them
- removing them from the situation when they are not able to handle it
- allowing them to bring a dsitractor with them (squishy ball, toy, heck
gameboy)
We are also not above bribing the kids with a treat for behaving

Another thing I would consider, especially since you stated the behavior
has
increased in the last year is that there may be some jealousy issues
going
on with your oldest in regards to having a new baby sister. The acting
out
at school and at home can simply be exagerated by attention seeking
behavior
due to him feeling the baby gets all the attention. In many cases the
child
will do the exact opposite of what the parent/teacher wants as a way of
getting attention and to a child that is seeking attention ANY
attention-
good or bad is wanted.

Also look at the activities you are giving him. They simply may not be
of
interest to him at all and even at 3.5 it isn't uncommon for them to not
be
interested in preschool activites. My youngest still has little to no
interest in learning things like his letters, ratttling off numbers or
even
getting colors right though we know he knows parts of this and think he
knows the rest. he's far more interested in seeing how many things he
can
bang his trucks into or creating complex make belevie games to play. 6
months ago, he would not have been able to attend in a preschool
classroom,
now he can and actively wants to.

As for functioning in school.. you would be AMAZED at what 2 years will
do
for your son. My oldest just went into 1st grade after Kindy. While
Kindy
was successful, he had a really up and down year in regards to his
behaivor. We did have him on meds for half the year. He matured a great
deal over the summer and we have pulled him completely off meds and his
behavior is still below what it was last year on meds.

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--- In adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Paul and Katie
Fowler" <katherin.thornton@...> wrote:MAYBE HE NEEDS TO HAVE MEDS
INCREASED HAVE YOU TRIED THE REWARD SYSTEM MAYBE HIS DR WOULD HAVE
SOME SUGGESTIONS ITS GOOD THAT THE SCHOOL CALLS ABOUT HIS DAY,DOES HE
HAVE A IEP AT SCHOOL WHERE HE CAN GET EXTRA HELP
>
> We are in desperate need of help.  Paul has a 6 yr. old from a
previous
> marriage.  He started kindergarden this year-all day. He is
currently
> taking 20mg of strattera in the morning.  Since he has been in
school
> we have had a note sent home everyday.  Recently the teacher began
> calling to discuss the day.  Yesterday the school called and said
that
> we needed to pick him up because they cannot control him.  Paul went
> this morning and then again in the afternoon to observe cameron
through
> another room.  We just don't know what to do. Please help.
>

i have a son who has been but on so myuch medicine for his problems
and nothing seems to hel the other day he choked me and it took me
forever to get him to calm down because when he gets upset  he looses
his  temper and i have tried every  technique to get his anger issues
delt with and   he is only 11 and he is involved with court stuff now

Hi Michelle,

Just saw all the emails today.  Thank you so much for you support.
Hopefully, Danielle will have a better year. I am keeping my fingers
crossed.

So sorry to here about your husband.  Do the doctors know exactly yet
what kind damage your husband caused to his eye?  Don't lose hope and
please don't blame yourself.  My brother did something similar years
ago to his eye he had to go for 2 operations and he had to wear
corrective glasses and his eye healed well.  Please let me know how
things go.  You are in my prayers.

Reenie


In adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com, michelle
<michellebyrnside@...> wrote:
>
> thanks im scared to death ! its always something isnt it i knew and
was weorried he was takeing on too much i had just told him friday
night he should wear eye goggles for the woerk hes doing you know men
he looked at me like i was crazy! a wife knows! i will keep you
informed he goes tommorow at 1;30 . were young 27, with four kids so
he takes on whatever he can i feel like if i had been working
fulltime he wouldnt have got hurt but i guess it was in the cards !
michelle
>
>     happy holidays michelle!!!
>
>
>
>
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>

Do you mind telling me what some of the negative side effects are?  I'm
a little puzzled at the fact that a lot of parents are still having
problems when their child is medicated.  Is it really hard to find the
right medication for a child???





Shelly Ring

________________________________

From: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marria
Brown
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 6:39 AM
To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06



Hi Shelly, Welcome to the group. We are all here for you if you need
advice about anything. So if you want to go on and on about your family
it is fine w/me. Sorry to hear about what you and your family is going
through. I have a 8 yr old with adhd. Every year since he was 1 yr I
always wondered if when he was 2 if it was going to get better, then 3,
then 4 so forth. For my ds he has improved w/age. (Thank God). He's a
great kid. I was told to get driven to distraction by Edward M.
Hallowell, M.D. and John. Ratey,M.D. and also find myself and my husband
both have it. I knew from along time ago when I heard it with my son.
But didnt think of it. My husband has the frustration kind, short fuse,
yelling all the time, like he's never happy. So reading that I said my
poor kid is just like his father LOL but anyways I had him on Concerta
then Adderall both bad side effect. took him off for one year now he is
on Foclin which is working well so far. its only really
been a week, but I know its not like the others so thats a good thing.

Anyways we are here for you anytime.
Good luck with your little guy
Marria

----- Original Message ----
From: Shelly Ring <sring@... <mailto:sring%40ffres.com> >
To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:adhdparentssupportgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:35:09 AM
Subject: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06

Good morning to all. I am new here, this is my first post. My name is
Shelly and I am the proud mother of two young children. My son Tristen
will be 4 years old in December and my daughter Haley will be one year
old on September 26th.

We have started having problems with Tristen since he turned 3 years
old. Actually, we've had problems since his birth but they have became
progressively worse in the last year. We have a great relationship with
his day-care teacher, Miss Chris, who is also the parent of a child with
ADD, Bipolar Disorder and depression. She knows what we are (about) to
go through. She has suspected that Tristen may be ADHD. He's been
showing some signs even though he is so young. Me, dh and my mother
have also seen him change this year and his behavior has gotten out of
our control. We have "tried everything" to get him to straighten up to
no avail.

Finally, after a long talk with Miss Chris and finding out that she can
no longer even hold a class with Tristen in it, we have gone to see a
therapist. We just went on Monday and it was for parent's only. Just
going by what we told her, she said he's showing classic signs of ADHD.
She is going to meet Tristen next week and do some observing. She
cannot prescribe medication so we are also seeing his pediatrician on
the 11th of this month. I've heard he doesn't like to diagnose ADHD
though, so I am a little worried. I just don't see why we should wait
until Tristen goes to school to try and do something? At this point,
there is absolutely NO way Tristen could function at a public school.
We would get calls immediately.

As for what Tristen does to make us concerned, he is VERY hyperactive.
He goes and goes constantly. He chews on things constantly- he chewed a
hole in my brand new blanket this weekend. He screams and has outburst
when it is totally inappropriate. He becomes very angry and lashes out
at us. He will not follow directions or do what he is asked. He has
started to mistreat his friends at school and his little sister. He
cannot handle change of any kind. He cannot sit down and participate in
any kind of activity at school or at home that include sitting down and
concentrating. He is very argumentative. Just to name a few things.

Anyway, that is enough rambling about us and our problems for now! I'm
just glad to find a place where people can identify with what we are
going through as parents. This is our first time to deal with ADHD.
Neither of us were diagnosed as children, but hardly anyone was when we
were kids. It just was not looked into like it is today.

Nice to meet you all.

-Shelly & Jeremiah

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I wrote before stating my 7yo granddaughter was put on  Concerta. She has
done pretty well, although due to sleeplessness, the dr  lowered her dose from
36mg to 27mg. She is still having problems sleeping, and  without any reasoning,
her mother stopped giving her the melatonin. (I asked why  she stopped but
never really got an answer)  When my grand daughter went  back to the dr for her
2wk checkup after being placed on the Concerta, she had  lost 5 lbs. Now, she
went in today for a checkup so they can renew prescription,  and she has lost
another 3 lbs.

She is 7yo and pretty tall for her age. In the beginning  the dr said she is
ok, today they told my daughter she should be 50lb at her  age/height. BUT
then he tells her if she wants she can give her a Boost (drink)  once a day if
needed.  My daughter then told the dr how my grand daughter  will begin hitting
herself, not hard, but like in the face/head. And that she  gets moody. One
minute, upbeat and happy, and the next she will be very sad and  say things like
nobody loves her, everybody ignores her, etc. The dr didn't  think much of
it. I thought that was odd, as he told us in the beginning we  needed to watch
her for certain things, as the Concerta can cause some side  effects such as
the moodiness and thoughts of suicide. While my grand daughter  hasnt said
anything pertaining to suicide, I worry about the way she is acting  at times.

I told my daughter is it imperative she follows through with the dr
recommendations that she have her seen and talk to a psycologist. Hasnt been 
done yet
and I am upset my daughter isnt taking this seriously enough.

Any thoughts, opinions and help would be  appreciated!!

THANKS


michelle


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Has your son been on the Strattera for 6 weeks ?? If so, I would talk to the
doctor and possibly get him on something else quickly.  My son took Strattera
and we hoped it would work, but it was like taking water.  He's only responded
well to the Concerta, Adderall, Ritalin and is now on the patch - doing pretty
well, we may have to increase, but its the last med before the psychiatrist has
to prescribe, so i'm trying to milk it as long as I can.  He's getting notes
home already too - been in school for 3 weeks.

   Good luck with your stepson, let us know how it goes.

   Heather

Paul and Katie Fowler <katherin.thornton@...> wrote:
           We are in desperate need of help. Paul has a 6 yr. old from a previous
marriage. He started kindergarden this year-all day. He is currently
taking 20mg of strattera in the morning. Since he has been in school
we have had a note sent home everyday. Recently the teacher began
calling to discuss the day. Yesterday the school called and said that
we needed to pick him up because they cannot control him. Paul went
this morning and then again in the afternoon to observe cameron through
another room. We just don't know what to do. Please help.






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Hi Shelly, Welcome...

   I had a problem putting my son on meds and everyone has their opinion.  The
behaviors he was showing convinced me that he had to get on meds.  He was 5,
middle of kindergarten.  He did kindergarten again because he got nothing out of
the first year except a little bit of structure.  But I fought the med thing
until we just couldn't.

   The way I looked at it was :  If he does not get on medication to help
him(hoping that it would) his behaviors become a very bad habit and that was
hurting him in the end, because then they are harder to break and become
ingrained.  When we started him on Concerta, it was an unbelievable difference
and immediate.  Didn't cure everything of course, but he was the kid that he
wanted to be and our house became a different place, much more calm,
cooperative, loving.

   Good luck, there are so many things to try for ADHD and so many opinions, it's
just a trial and error thing until you find that thing that works for your
son...

   Take care,
   Heather



Marria Brown <browndog513@...> wrote:
           Hi Shelly, Welcome to the group. We are all here for you if you need
advice about anything. So if you want to go on and on about your family it is
fine w/me. Sorry to hear about what you and your family is going through. I have
a 8 yr old with adhd. Every year since he was 1 yr I always wondered if when he
was 2 if it was going to get better, then 3, then 4 so forth. For my ds he has
improved w/age. (Thank God). He's a great kid. I was told to get driven to
distraction by Edward M. Hallowell, M.D. and John. Ratey,M.D. and also find
myself and my husband both have it. I knew from along time ago when I heard it
with my son. But didnt think of it. My husband has the frustration kind, short
fuse, yelling all the time, like he's never happy. So reading that I said my
poor kid is just like his father LOL but anyways I had him on Concerta then
Adderall both bad side effect. took him off for one year now he is on Foclin
which is working well so far. its only really
been a week, but I know its not like the others so thats a good thing.

Anyways we are here for you anytime.
Good luck with your little guy
Marria

----- Original Message ----
From: Shelly Ring <sring@...>
To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:35:09 AM
Subject: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06

Good morning to all. I am new here, this is my first post. My name is
Shelly and I am the proud mother of two young children. My son Tristen
will be 4 years old in December and my daughter Haley will be one year
old on September 26th.

We have started having problems with Tristen since he turned 3 years
old. Actually, we've had problems since his birth but they have became
progressively worse in the last year. We have a great relationship with
his day-care teacher, Miss Chris, who is also the parent of a child with
ADD, Bipolar Disorder and depression. She knows what we are (about) to
go through. She has suspected that Tristen may be ADHD. He's been
showing some signs even though he is so young. Me, dh and my mother
have also seen him change this year and his behavior has gotten out of
our control. We have "tried everything" to get him to straighten up to
no avail.

Finally, after a long talk with Miss Chris and finding out that she can
no longer even hold a class with Tristen in it, we have gone to see a
therapist. We just went on Monday and it was for parent's only. Just
going by what we told her, she said he's showing classic signs of ADHD.
She is going to meet Tristen next week and do some observing. She
cannot prescribe medication so we are also seeing his pediatrician on
the 11th of this month. I've heard he doesn't like to diagnose ADHD
though, so I am a little worried. I just don't see why we should wait
until Tristen goes to school to try and do something? At this point,
there is absolutely NO way Tristen could function at a public school.
We would get calls immediately.

As for what Tristen does to make us concerned, he is VERY hyperactive.
He goes and goes constantly. He chews on things constantly- he chewed a
hole in my brand new blanket this weekend. He screams and has outburst
when it is totally inappropriate. He becomes very angry and lashes out
at us. He will not follow directions or do what he is asked. He has
started to mistreat his friends at school and his little sister. He
cannot handle change of any kind. He cannot sit down and participate in
any kind of activity at school or at home that include sitting down and
concentrating. He is very argumentative. Just to name a few things.

Anyway, that is enough rambling about us and our problems for now! I'm
just glad to find a place where people can identify with what we are
going through as parents. This is our first time to deal with ADHD.
Neither of us were diagnosed as children, but hardly anyone was when we
were kids. It just was not looked into like it is today.

Nice to meet you all.

-Shelly & Jeremiah

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Did he just start taking the medication? Maybe you should try another kind. My
son takes 15 mg of Adderal in the morning. He just started 2nd grade. I also
found that a behavior chart helped alot. IN kindergarden we just did notes
though since he only had one teacher. He got rewarded for good notes and if he
got bad notes he was not allowed to do things he likes to do when he got home
from school.

   Also be sure he knows what is expected of him and that the teacher follows
through. He may even need another teacher. Sending him home is the worse thing
the school could do. That just tells him if he keeps doing behaviors he is doing
he won't have to stay there and can go home.

Paul and Katie Fowler <katherin.thornton@...> wrote:
   We are in desperate need of help. Paul has a 6 yr. old from a previous
marriage. He started kindergarden this year-all day. He is currently
taking 20mg of strattera in the morning. Since he has been in school
we have had a note sent home everyday. Recently the teacher began
calling to discuss the day. Yesterday the school called and said that
we needed to pick him up because they cannot control him. Paul went
this morning and then again in the afternoon to observe cameron through
another room. We just don't know what to do. Please help.










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Can someone tell me how to find the chat room???????Please,I am new to
this site and need to chat,
thanks,
Lisa.

Katie,

   I also don't remember what dose the Stattera goes up to , maybe the doc would
like to increase it too.

   Good luck again...
   Heather

Paul and Katie Fowler <katherin.thornton@...> wrote:
           We are in desperate need of help. Paul has a 6 yr. old from a previous
marriage. He started kindergarden this year-all day. He is currently
taking 20mg of strattera in the morning. Since he has been in school
we have had a note sent home everyday. Recently the teacher began
calling to discuss the day. Yesterday the school called and said that
we needed to pick him up because they cannot control him. Paul went
this morning and then again in the afternoon to observe cameron through
another room. We just don't know what to do. Please help.






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Thanks Angela!  Do you think that the chewing is something that goes
along with the ADHD?





Shelly Ring

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From: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Angela
Roller
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:51 AM
To: adhdparentssupportgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ADHD Parents Support Group] New Here 8/30/06



Welcome to the group! You will get some good advice here. I wanted to
tell
you that our son's speech therapist gave him a "Chewy Tube". It's all
he's
allowed to chew on (although, even at 7, I still have to remind him to
get
it instead of the toy in his hand.) I think it's really helped him,
though.

Angela :-)

He chews on things constantly- he chewed a
> hole in my brand new blanket this weekend.





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