hI! You could use a lancet to prick at the aucupoint, or find some
small veins where there is an indication of clotting in our system.

Best regards
Nelson Sim

--- In acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com, "wcanavarro" <wcanavarro@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Please, anyone could give me an idea how to use the technique to
bleed
> acupucture points?
>
> Thanks!
>

Where the point is exactly located?


elake001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
           there are great point for it... sp 9 the next point is 3 finger down
fron sp 9 and sp 6 .. this has drop me suger by 50 point winthin 30
min.of the TX.

--- In acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com, "peter_justin96"
<peter_justin96@...> wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me the accpressure points for Diabetes as well the
> time for which the pressure should be maintained?
>






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Could youplease specify the exact location of the points.

   regards,

   Harish

elake001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
           there are great point for it... sp 9 the next point is 3 finger down
fron sp 9 and sp 6 .. this has drop me suger by 50 point winthin 30
min.of the TX.

--- In acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com, "peter_justin96"
<peter_justin96@...> wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me the accpressure points for Diabetes as well the
> time for which the pressure should be maintained?
>






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Hello Everyone,

I'd like to share some info about an upcoming Master Tung seminar in San
Jose, CA on Oct 21,22 & 28,29.  It's going to be an incredible seminar with
a lot of knowledge passed on!

  Some common questions people ask regarding the seminar is...

  "How is this seminar different from all the other Tong seminars?"

  To be brief,   Esther is going to teach HOW and WHY the Tong system is
effective, how it relates to the fundamental principles of the Tai Chi
meridian theory, how the Tong system relates to traditional acupuncture
points and other common systems and to use these and integrate them into
your practice.  With this in-depth view, it allows practitioners to really
learn and benefit a lot more than just a "cook book" recipe style.

  Also it is limited to 15 people to encourage questions, discussion  and
hands-on learning.

  If you have specific questions, please feel free to call Esther Su at
408-263-4267.

  Seminar info is pasted below and attached to this email.

Thank you,

Peter

*
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
--------------------------------
*

*Understanding Master Tong's Acupuncture Points in Depth: **t**he Principle
of Taiji Meridians***

* *

*Lectured in English by Esther C. Su, L. Ac., M. A. *

*A long term apprentice of Miriam Lee and student of Young Wei-chieh*

* *

This two weekend course examines the fundamental principles of Master Tong's
points and, by encouraging hands-on participation from students,
demonstrates the applicability of those points in effective acupuncture.  The
lecturer's extensive background and experience in the field of Chinese
medicine will lend to an in-depth understanding of both the theories and
practices of acupuncture.



The first two days of the course will focus on commonly used points in
clinical practice: their locations, applications, and clinical effects.  The
following weekend's course will relate Master Tong's points with traditional
acupuncture points and other practical systems.



This course will be limited to a group of 15 participants, to ensure a
pleasant learning environment.



*Time:* Oct. 21, 22 and 28, 29, 2006.  9 AM-12 PM; 2 PM-5 PM. (6 hours per
day)

*Place: *3119 Terrywood Court, San Jose, CA 95132

*Tuition:* $600.00 for licensed acupuncturists and practitioners; $500.00
for students



*To reserve a seat,* please send the required tuition fee (checks only, no
cash) to:

Esther C. Su, 3119 Terrywood Court, San Jose, CA 95132

*Registration deadline: **Oct. 1, 2006*



Admission will be granted on a rolling basis.  Prospective participants who
enroll after the course has already been filled may request to be placed on
a waiting list for the next class (tentatively to be held in Spring, 2007)



*Cancellation/Refund Policy: *Notice of cancellation must be made, in
writing, by Oct. 14th for a full refund.  A fee of $60 will be charged after
Oct. 14th.  No refunds will be granted after Oct. 21th—this includes
no-shows.



*Continuing education credit (for 24 hours) is available and approved by the
**California** Acupuncture Board*.



For further information, please contact Esther C. Su at
esthersu@..., or call 408-263-4267.



*About the lecturer:  *

Esther C. Su graduated from National Taiwan University with a Master's
degree in philosophy.  She learned acupuncture and Chinese medicine from
Miriam Lee and was her apprentice from 1978 to 1986.  In the '80s, Esther
was the continuing education coordinator and translator for the Acupuncture
Association of America.  There, she studied Master Tong's points with Dr.
Young Wei-chieh, a principal lecturer for the AAA during this time.  Esther
then opened her own clinic in 1986; she has been practicing Chinese
acupuncture and medicinal herbs in San Jose for twenty years.

Esther has lectured on acupuncture around the Bay Area and in Germany.  She
has also presented academic papers on subjects ranging from Chinese to
Western philosophy, and has published numerous articles concerning Chinese
medicine and the comparative philosophies of the East and West.


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there are great point for it... sp 9  the next point is 3 finger  down
fron sp 9 and sp 6 .. this has drop me suger by 50 point winthin 30
min.of the TX.









--- In acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com, "peter_justin96"
<peter_justin96@...> wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me the accpressure points for Diabetes as well the
> time for which the pressure should be maintained?
>

Please, anyone could give me an idea how to use the technique to bleed
acupucture points?

Thanks!

Hi! Domi Aurey,

I'm a user of this Acupuncture Treasure for the last 3 years.
The Company (Tienshi) distribute this product with many other health
supplements & apparatus.

Basically, it's works as an acupressure tools, combined with magnetic
healing. Use it and it will helps in managing several medical conditions.


Best regards
Nelson Sim
Singapore



--- In acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com, "Domi Andrey"
<domi_andrey@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a new member to this community.
> My name is Domi Andrey from Jakarta, Indonesia.
>
> I just like to know whether anyone in this forum have ever heard
> about an accupressure tools called Accupoint Treasure, which are
> produced by a Bio-tech company from China.
>
> I have used this tools for almost 1 year. I bought it for as much as
> 1,5 million Indonesian Rupiah for a set of Accupoint Treasure or as
> much as USD 150.
>
> That investment is not comparable to the experiences that I have
> gained and so many knowledge I have learned about the accupressure
> function and its capabilities. It's a very amazing tool, I think.
> Though I have no experience in medical background (I used to work in
> IT), but I have managed to use it to cure many illness, especially to
> my family, relatives and colleagues. Starting from Dizziness, Cold,
> Hearing problems, Tooth-ache, fever, even a hard one like Stroke.
> Once, I used to help a stroke patient who is already unable to walk
> and stand. But after an hour of therapy by using this tool, she's
> able to move her hand and shows much relief on her face.
>
> I wonder, whether any one in this forum could share an interest of
> this topics and would discuss more about this amazing tool.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
> Domi Andrey
> mail to : domi_andrey@...
>

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Hello
I would like to get some help about the herbs and the dosages in that
formula. From some reason I can't find it in the books.
Thanks a lot

Yes, please talk to my nephew about this chronic fatigue syndrome, he has
some interesting information/view on it. _Ekowal459@..._
(mailto:Ekowal459@...) , maybe he can help with  good suggestion. Just
write, Uncle Abe in
subject  line.


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Dear Erwin,

Thank you for reminding me about auricular therapy. Currently, Kate is having Ki
Therapy daily from a Japanese practitioner. We travel daily to London (10 hours,
290 miles per day, so tiring!). She has seen him for six sessions, and his
energy has completely changed the pelvic area of her body and has loosened a lot
of very tight areas. He believes her problems are due to injury (slow, not
traumatic). She now walks and moves in a very obviously different way.

We start another five days of travelling and treatment on Monday. I trust this
will soon (?) make an enormous difference, though now she is frightened and in
great pain.

Jill
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: erwin haid
   To: acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:43 AM
   Subject: Re: [Acupuncture Forum] Expert Acupucture Practitioner sought in UK
urgently



   Hi, my names is erwin haid. I live in mexico, but I can tell you that one of
the best resources you have is auricular therapy. in fact, there´s no need fo r
you to use needles on the patient, since she is so deteriorated. Ear therapy is
a branch of chinese of medicine and acupuncture. It´s totally safe, because its
effect on the human body is always regulating. For application in the ear, you
can do it by uisng tiny metal pellets or radish seeds which are stuck for a few
days in one ear, then the other and so on. If there is a therapyst who practices
this system, would be the best. Once the patient is better, she will be able to
take acupuncture.

   There are lots of illustrations you can download and learn the ear points. If
you wish, I could help via e-mail in case you need.

   Regards and good luck.





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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thank you for your reply and suggestion. I have responded about the Japanese Ki
Therapy Kate is currently undergoing. She is aware her brain needs attention -
at the moment it is in chaos and very sensitive to all sounds, smells, changes
in light, etc. This, we hope, will be helped soon.

Jill
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: jirong wang
   To: acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:46 AM
   Subject: reply to ： [Acupuncture Forum] Expert Acupucture Practitioner
sought in UK urgently



   It is sorry to hear about your doughter's illness,I am
   very sphympoathatic about it.

   In my point of the view ,it is not a good idea to use
   needling to solve it ,for as your said ,she is is so
   fragile and she has severe allergies,... go into
   shock, etc,I am not say it can not do ,but it is hard
   to do by it.
   The best way is by useing a Tradional Chinese edicinal
   herb, to reactive her brain function into
   comparatively normal.
   As we all know there is no evidence of any psychiatric
   disorder in a sizable number of patients with this
   illness. However, in laboratory tests, there is
   evidence of abnormalities in the brain and immune
   system of many of these patients.... We still do not
   understand the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, but
   studies around the world show it is not ... "all in
   their heads".
   So,put more effets into the reform her brain function
   is the key procedure.

   yours wang jirong
   email:tcmwjr@...


   --- jillybray <jill@...>had
   wrote:

   > My daughter (37) has had ME/CFS etc. for some 20
   > years. Eight years
   > ago, she nearly died and was unable to walk for
   > three years. She
   > gradually improved, but last Sunday, she
   > deteriorated rapidly and is
   > going down hill fast. She asks me if I can find
   > someone to treat her illness

   > very soon.
   >
   > This person must be very experienced, indeed she
   > asks for a miracle
   > worker, because she is so fragile. She has severe
   > allergies, constant
   > pain throughout her body, particularly excruciating
   > uterine pain all
   > the time (worse during her period, when she can
   > vomit, go into shock,
   > etc). She has gut problems, neurotransmitter
   > problems, nervous system
   > irregularities, lots of problems with sensory
   > perception, sensory
   > malfunction, etc. She states she is unlike other
   > patients with ME/CFS,
   > because she is so much more fragile. She is very
   > over-reactive to
   > stimulation and is going into shock all the time at
   > the moment. She
   > needs someone very experienced to bring her body
   > back into balance
   > again. She is very frightened of getting worse and
   > going through all
   > she has been through before.
   >
   > I锟絤 sure I written enough to explain how unusual
   > and complex she is.
   >
   > If you are someone who could help her quickly or
   > know of someone who
   > could, she and I would be most grateful
   >
   > She lives in Herefordshire and can travel up to
   > about 100 miles.
   >
   > Many thanks for reading this far!
   >
   > Jill Bray
   >
   > P.S. We have lists from the various acupuncture
   > associations, but
   > these give little away about the expertise of the
   > therapists.
   > P.P.S. I am happy to be telephoned on 01684 560354.
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >





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Hello Jillbray,

   I am writing from India. I would like to help your daughter  She can be very
surely be helped by the stimulaton of right trigger points in the body.My book
named `EAR THE SWITCH BOARD OF THE BODY' should be of tremondous help to treat
her through auricular points.

   I can mail you the book if you feel you can read and pick up help. I am also
sending you my website for more information on pressure points.

   http://acupuncturebyrama.tripod.com/

jillybray <jill@...> wrote:
           My daughter (37) has had ME/CFS etc. for some 20 years. Eight years
ago, she nearly died and was unable to walk for three years. She
gradually improved, but last Sunday, she deteriorated rapidly and is
going down hill fast. She asks me if I can find someone to treat her
very soon.

This person must be very experienced, indeed she asks for a miracle
worker, because she is so fragile. She has severe allergies, constant
pain throughout her body, particularly excruciating uterine pain all
the time (worse during her period, when she can vomit, go into shock,
etc). She has gut problems, neurotransmitter problems, nervous system
irregularities, lots of problems with sensory perception, sensory
malfunction, etc. She states she is unlike other patients with ME/CFS,
because she is so much more fragile. She is very over-reactive to
stimulation and is going into shock all the time at the moment. She
needs someone very experienced to bring her body back into balance
again. She is very frightened of getting worse and going through all
she has been through before.

I�m sure I written enough to explain how unusual and complex she is.

If you are someone who could help her quickly or know of someone who
could, she and I would be most grateful

She lives in Herefordshire and can travel up to about 100 miles.

Many thanks for reading this far!

Jill Bray

P.S. We have lists from the various acupuncture associations, but
these give little away about the expertise of the therapists.
P.P.S. I am happy to be telephoned on 01684 560354.






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Can anyone give to me an opinion in this clinical case:

Main complaint:
  Pain in the pulse, without apparent origin. It started with swell,
heat, functional immobility,  With the time these symptoms had
disappeared and pain it attenuated, but the patient continues to feel,
sometimes, pain to the level of the Lung 9 (Taiyuan)
with sensation of pricked, mainly after making some effort. At this
moment, starts to feel hand asleep and pain starts to radiate it the
elbow.

Complementary data:
  Woman, 54 years, with professional activity of responsibility.
Asthmatic, with problems in the joints. Loss of hearing, cellulite and
fat located in the zone of the abdomen and thighs.
Have a  sensible skin, trend to eczema. Problems with sanguineous
circulation in the legs and many spills in the zone of the thighs.
Arrhythmias.
The breath is short for effort,  sweats during the night, during the
day no sweat. Feels sometimes sleepiness,  prefers the heat,  have
good appetite with a diet +/- balanced (more Yang), but with difficult
digestions followed with abdominal swell and stomach weighed.
  Flatulence, external haemorrhoids, difficulty  to defecate
(constipation) with soft excrements.
Gingivitis and sensation of flavour bitter taste in the mouth.
Not have necessity to drink liquids, nor drinks much water, drinking
normally tea. Abundant clear urine , many times in the day and also
during the night. And lately has  small losses of involuntary urine
(trend the incontinence)
Feels noises in the ears, vertigos, loss of hearing since very new,
feels much tingle in the ears.
Muddy sight, sand sensation in the eyes. Fine pale language with
saburra white.

syndrome associate to this case in my opinion:

- syndrome  sinking Qi (QiXiaxian) / syndrome Yang empty

- syndrome lung insufficience and spleen insufficience with Phlegm and
moistness

- syndrome kidney inufficience

The treatment in use is:

stimulate the energy: governor vessel 4,  bladder 23, conception vessel 6
Moxa governor vessel 20 and curious point 1 to ascend Yang
to regulate the center and Yangming: stomach 36, conception vessel 12,
large intestine 4
to eliminate Phlegm: stomach 40, spleen 3
to regulate spleen: bladder 20 stimulate liver 13
stimulate kidney and lung: kidney 7 and lung 9
stimulate the Shu and Mu of kidney: bladder 23 and gallbladder 25

Please give me your opinion.

Sorry for some mistakes, but I'm from Portugal.
Thanks for your help!

Can anyone give to me an opinion in this clinical case:

Main complaint:
  Pain in the pulse, without apparent origin. It started with swell,
heat, functional immobility,  With the time these symptoms had
disappeared and pain it attenuated, but the patient continues to feel,
sometimes, pain to the level of the Lung 9 (Taiyuan)
with sensation of pricked, mainly after making some effort. At this
moment, starts to feel hand asleep and pain starts to radiate it the
elbow.

Complementary data:
  Woman, 54 years, with professional activity of responsibility.
Asthmatic, with problems in the joints. Loss of hearing, cellulite and
fat located in the zone of the abdomen and thighs.
Have a  sensible skin, trend to eczema. Problems with sanguineous
circulation in the legs and many spills in the zone of the thighs.
Arrhythmias.
The breath is short for effort,  sweats during the night, during the
day no sweat. Feels sometimes sleepiness,  prefers the heat,  have
good appetite with a diet +/- balanced (more Yang), but with difficult
digestions followed with abdominal swell and stomach weighed.
  Flatulence, external haemorrhoids, difficulty  to defecate
(constipation) with soft excrements.
Gingivitis and sensation of flavour bitter taste in the mouth.
Not have necessity to drink liquids, nor drinks much water, drinking
normally tea. Abundant clear urine , many times in the day and also
during the night. And lately has  small losses of involuntary urine
(trend the incontinence)
Feels noises in the ears, vertigos, loss of hearing since very new,
feels much tingle in the ears.
Muddy sight, sand sensation in the eyes. Fine pale language with
saburra white.

syndrome associate to this case in my opinion:

- syndrome  sinking Qi (QiXiaxian) / syndrome Yang empty

- syndrome lung insufficience and spleen insufficience with Phlegm and
moistness

- syndrome kidney inufficience

The treatment in use is:

stimulate the energy: governor vessel 4,  bladder 23, conception vessel 6
Moxa governor vessel 20 and curious point 1 to ascend Yang
to regulate the center and Yangming: stomach 36, conception vessel 12,
large intestine 4
to eliminate Phlegm: stomach 40, spleen 3
to regulate spleen: bladder 20 stimulate liver 13
stimulate kidney and lung: kidney 7 and lung 9
stimulate the Shu and Mu of kidney: bladder 23 and gallbladder 25

Please give me your opinion.

Sorry for some mistakes, but I'm from Portugal.
Thanks for your help!

Hi, my names is erwin haid. I live in mexico, but I can tell you that one of the
best resources you have is auricular therapy. in fact, there´s no need fo r you
to use needles on the patient, since she is so deteriorated. Ear therapy is a
branch of chinese of medicine and acupuncture. It´s totally safe, because its
effect on the human body is always regulating. For application in the ear, you
can do it by uisng tiny metal pellets or radish seeds which are stuck for a few
days in one ear, then the other and so on. If there is a therapyst who practices
this system, would be the best. Once the patient is better, she will be able to
take acupuncture.

   There are lots of illustrations you can download and learn the ear points. If
you wish, I could help via e-mail in case you need.

   Regards and good luck.







---------------------------------
   Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexión a Internet y 2GB extra a tu correo por $100
al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It is sorry to hear about your doughter's illness,I am
very sphympoathatic about it.

In my point of the view ,it is not a good idea  to use
needling to solve it ,for as your said ,she is is so
fragile and  she has severe allergies,... go into
shock, etc,I am not say it can not do ,but it is hard
to do by it.
The best way is by useing a Tradional Chinese edicinal
herb, to reactive her brain function into
comparatively normal.
As we all know there is no evidence of any psychiatric
disorder in a sizable number of patients with this
illness. However, in laboratory tests, there is
evidence of abnormalities in the brain and immune
system of many of these patients.... We still do not
understand the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, but
studies around the world show it is not ... "all in
their heads".
So,put more effets into the reform her brain function
is the key procedure.




yours wang jirong
email:tcmwjr@...



--- jillybray <jill@...>had
wrote:

> My daughter (37) has had ME/CFS etc. for some 20
> years. Eight years
> ago, she nearly died and was unable to walk for
> three years. She
> gradually improved, but last Sunday, she
> deteriorated rapidly and is
> going down hill fast. She asks me if I can find
> someone to treat her illness


> very soon.
>
> This person must be very experienced, indeed she
> asks for a miracle
> worker, because she is so fragile. She has severe
> allergies, constant
> pain throughout her body, particularly excruciating
> uterine pain all
> the time (worse during her period, when she can
> vomit, go into shock,
> etc). She has gut problems, neurotransmitter
> problems, nervous system
> irregularities, lots of problems with sensory
> perception, sensory
> malfunction, etc. She states she is unlike other
> patients with ME/CFS,
> because she is so much more fragile. She is very
> over-reactive to
> stimulation and is going into shock all the time at
> the moment. She
> needs someone very experienced to bring her body
> back into balance
> again. She is very frightened of getting worse and
> going through all
> she has been through before.
>
> I�m sure I written enough to explain how unusual
> and complex she is.
>
> If you are someone who could help her quickly or
> know of someone who
> could, she and I would be most grateful
>
> She lives in Herefordshire and can travel up to
> about 100 miles.
>
> Many thanks for reading this far!
>
> Jill Bray
>
> P.S. We have lists from the various acupuncture
> associations, but
> these give little away about the expertise of the
> therapists.
> P.P.S. I am happy to be telephoned on 01684 560354.
>
>
>
>
>
>








___________________________________________________________
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It is sorry to hear about your doughter's illness,I am
very sphympoathatic about it.

In my point of the view ,it is not a good idea  to use
needling to solve it ,for as your said ,she is is so
fragile and  she has severe allergies,... go into
shock, etc,I am not say it can not do ,but it is hard
to do by it.
The best way is by useing a Tradional Chinese edicinal
herb, to reactive her brain function into
comparatively normal.
As we all know there is no evidence of any psychiatric
disorder in a sizable number of patients with this
illness. However, in laboratory tests, there is
evidence of abnormalities in the brain and immune
system of many of these patients.... We still do not
understand the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, but
studies around the world show it is not ... "all in
their heads".
So,put more effets into the reform her brain function
is the key procedure.




yours wang jirong
email:tcmwjr@...












--- In acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com, "jillybray" <jill@...> wrote:
>
> My daughter (37) has had ME/CFS etc. for some 20 years. Eight years
> ago, she nearly died and was unable to walk for three years. She
> gradually improved, but last Sunday, she deteriorated rapidly and is
> going down hill fast. She asks me if I can find someone to treat her
> very soon.
>
> This person must be very experienced, indeed she asks for a miracle
> worker, because she is so fragile. She has severe allergies,
constant
> pain throughout her body, particularly excruciating uterine pain all
> the time (worse during her period, when she can vomit, go into
shock,
> etc). She has gut problems, neurotransmitter problems, nervous
system
> irregularities, lots of problems with sensory perception, sensory
> malfunction, etc. She states she is unlike other patients with
ME/CFS,
> because she is so much more fragile. She is very over-reactive to
> stimulation and is going into shock all the time at the moment. She
> needs someone very experienced to bring her body back into balance
> again. She is very frightened of getting worse and going through all
> she has been through before.
>
> I�m sure I written enough to explain how unusual and complex she
is.
>
> If you are someone who could help her quickly or know of someone who
> could, she and I would be most grateful
>
> She lives in Herefordshire and can travel up to about 100 miles.
>
> Many thanks for reading this far!
>
> Jill Bray
>
> P.S. We have lists from the various acupuncture associations, but
> these give little away about the expertise of the therapists.
> P.P.S. I am happy to be telephoned on 01684 560354.
>

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My daughter (37) has had ME/CFS etc. for some 20 years. Eight years
ago, she nearly died and was unable to walk for three years. She
gradually improved, but last Sunday, she deteriorated rapidly and is
going down hill fast. She asks me if I can find someone to treat her
very soon.

This person must be very experienced, indeed she asks for a miracle
worker, because she is so fragile. She has severe allergies, constant
pain throughout her body, particularly excruciating uterine pain all
the time (worse during her period, when she can vomit, go into shock,
etc). She has gut problems, neurotransmitter problems, nervous system
irregularities, lots of problems with sensory perception, sensory
malfunction, etc. She states she is unlike other patients with ME/CFS,
because she is so much more fragile. She is very over-reactive to
stimulation and is going into shock all the time at the moment. She
needs someone very experienced to bring her body back into balance
again. She is very frightened of getting worse and going through all
she has been through before.

I�m sure I written enough to explain how unusual and complex she is.

If you are someone who could help her quickly or know of someone who
could, she and I would be most grateful

She lives in Herefordshire and can travel up to about 100 miles.

Many thanks for reading this far!

Jill Bray

P.S. We have lists from the various acupuncture associations, but
these give little away about the expertise of the therapists.
P.P.S. I am happy to be telephoned on 01684 560354.

Ola a todos, sou nova no grupo, sou de potugal!

Alguem me pode dar uma opinião neste caso clínico:

Queixa principal:

Surgimento de dor no pulso, sem origem aparente. Inicialmente com
aspecto de traumatismo, apesar da paciente não se lembrar de nada
importante que o possa ter causado. Mas começou com inchaço, calor,
imobilidade funcional.
Com o tempo esses sintomas desapareceram e a dor aliviou, mas continua
a sentir, ás vezes, dor ao nível do P9 com sensação de picadas,
principalmente depois de fazer algum esforço. Neste momento, já começa
a sentir adormecimento da mão e a dor começa a irradiar-se ao cotovelo.

Dados complementares:
Mulher, 54 anos, com actividade profissional de responsabilidade.
Asmática (toma ventilan) com problemas articulares, presença de uma
cifose. Perda de audição. Tem bastante celulite e gordura localizada
na zona do abdomen e coxas.
Tem uma pele bastante sensível facilmente irritável, couro cabeludo
com eczema seborreico.
Apresenta varizes e muitos derrames na zona das coxas. Arritmias.
A respiração é curta e disneia por esforço, suores nocturnos. Durante
o dia pouco suor.
Sente por vezes sonolência, prefere o calor, tem bom apetite com uma
dieta +/- equilibrada (mais Yang), mas com digestões dificeis
acompanhadas com inchaço abdominal e pesadez.
Flatulência, hemorroides externas, tendência á obstipação com fezes
pastosas.
Gengivites e sensação de sabor amargo na boca.
Não costuma sentir muita sede, nem bebe muita água, bebendo
normalmente chá.
Urina abundante de tonalidade clara, poliúria (levanta-se durante a
noite para urinar) e ultimamente tem sentido pequenas perdas de urina
involuntária (tendência a incontinência)
Acúfenos, vertigens, perda de audição desde muito nova, sente muita
comichão nos ouvidos.
Vista turva, sensação de areia nos olhos.
Língua pálida com saburra branca fina.

Síndromes associados:

Síndrome afundamento de qi (QiXiaxian) / Síndrome vazio Yang
(sinais de caída: varizes, hemorroides, poliuria) (sinais estancamento
TR Inferior: dilatação abdominal, sensação de pesadez e distensão)
(falta Qi cefálico: vista turva, vertigens, hipoacúsia)

Síndrome Insuficiência de Pulmão e BP com presença de flemas humidade
(asma, disneia, alterações cutâneas) (sonolência, digestões difíceis,
dilatação abdominal, obstipação) (sensação de picadas, pesadez, eczema
seborreico, celulite  flemas)

Síndrome Insuficiência Rim
(perda de audição, vertigens, acúfenos, transtornos ósseos e
areticulares, respiração débil, suores nocturnos, obstipação)


Tratamento:

Tonificar energia: 4DM 23B 6RM
Moxar 20DM e 1PC para ascender Yang
Regular centro e Yangming 36E 12RM 4IG
Eliminar flemas: 40E 3BP
Regular BP: 20B estimular 13F
Tonificar R e P: 7R 9P
Estimular o Shu e o Mu do R: 23B 25VB

Obrigado!

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The Central Acupuncture Institute and Phuong Bac Travel Company
have started a tour in combination with treating diseases by using
acupuncture. The tour includes two key forms: convalescent travelling
and disease treatment tourism at the institute.

There will two doctors and four professional convalesce experts joining
a tour with about 20 tourists to give acupuncture healthcare to tourists,
said professor Nguyen Tai Thu, head of the programme.

At present, the Central Acupuncture Institute has made a detailed
programme for treating 56 normal diseases such as backache, vestibule
disorders, sleeplessness and headache.

The tour has kicked off with a group tourists from Australia and "we will
receive the second group of tourists from Sweden," said Nguyen Viet
Thai, deputy head of the tour programme.

The Australian tourists called at the Acupuncture Institute, received
overall medicinal checks-up and have a medicinal herb bath in
combination with sauna and massage, Mr Thai added.

Swedish tourists will ask doctors and point acupuncture experts to travel
along with them to different places of interest in Vietnam, said Mr Thai.

Those who want to book the tour can dial 0903209151 at Phuong Bac
Tourism Company or dial 04.5632.577 at the Central Acupuncture
Institute.

One of the interesting things of the tour is "having medicinal herb bath,
eating medicinal herb soup and medicinal herb sauna and massage,"
according to the institute. Tourists bathe in a wooden bucket with water
cooked from medicinal herbs. This service package costs VND 120,000
(US $8) a tourist.

At present, the Central Acupuncture Institute has 30 bathrooms, being
able to serve 50 tourists at the same time.

"With the current number of staff members, apart from serving tourists
at the institute, we can send doctors and acupuncture experts to meet
the need of only one or two groups of tourists. But, with the tendency,
the tour will develop rapidly in the future," said Mr Thai.

--- In acupuncture@yahoogroups.com, Hoang Ho <twomtns2002@...> wrote:

We might try a garlic oil rub for the Conc1 and DuMai 20and underthe
tonguefor apreventative med.

Hoang Ho <twomtns2002@...> wrote:      Possible manufactured disease
or ozone layer depletion syndrome for toxic property?
   Rome labs is a suspect? Working with lyme disease to make it worse?

   this is a 'blind try' at trying to manage this problem. There are
accu methods for both Lyme disease and paracites and both should be
tried. Psychsematica should be used also. The wormy thing might be
managed by incense stick touching, don't burn yourself!
   here is some point therapy recomendations. I have not seen this
disease or treated for it. experimental only.

   Paracites hiding in Kidneys?

   Conception 1 moxa , 7

   DuMai 20

   Triple Burner  3 tonify , 5 moxa , 8 stim

   Kidney 1 moxa , 7 tonify/moxa

   Liver 3

   Gall Bladder 1 , 8 , 10 moxa ,  23 , 34 , 40 , 41

   Large Intestine 20 tonify/moxa

   NOSE POINTS   - kidney point moxa,  supplemental point #1,
supplemental point #2 ton, moxa, bleed ( careful wind exit point?)
   moxa lumbar point nose?

   EAR POINTS - San-Chiao , Chiao-kan , liver point ,

   Heart 1 sedate




kitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote:
   I live 25 miles from a "ground zero"...and also have some other
prerequitsites.   I'm not too scared.   They do sound like alien
beings however!!!  lol

The 'victims' are mostly in the medical profession and have associated
disorders of Lyme disease, FMS/CFS.

May be the advent of the superbugs we're always hearing about
hospitals breeding.

Also, keep you're bare hands out of potted plants....if you live in
the 'danger zone'.

Kit


--- In acupuncture@yahoogroups.com, "Mercurius Trismegistus"
<magisterium_magnum@> wrote:
>
>
http://www.mysanantonio.com/global-includes/printstory.jsp?path=/news/metro/stor\
ies/MYSA051106.morgellans.KENS.32030524.html
> Doctors puzzled over bizarre infection surfacing in South Texas
>
> Web Posted: 05/12/2006 10:51 AM CDT
> Deborah Knapp
> KENS 5 Eyewitness News
>
>
>
> If diseases like AIDS and bird flu scare you, wait until you hear
what's next. Doctors are trying to find out what is causing a bizarre
and mysterious infection that's surfaced in South Texas.
>
> Morgellons disease is not yet known to kill, but if you were to get
it, you might wish you were dead, as the symptoms are horrible.
>
>






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--- In acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com, Hoang Ho <twomtns2002@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hoang Ho <twomtns2002@...> wrote:      Possible manufactured disease
or ozone layer depletion syndrome for toxic property?
>   Rome labs is a suspect? Working with lyme disease to make it
worse? Is it a combination of Lyme Disease (dryness) and Herpes?(Moist
heat? If it is indeed an outer space link it may be from Mercury  -
very dry area. Garlic oil as preventative med on Conception 1 , DuMai
20 and under tongue.
>
>   this is a 'blind try' at trying to manage this problem. There are
accu methods for both Lyme disease and paracites and both should be
tried. Psychsematica should be used also. The wormy thing might be
managed by incense stick touching, don't burn yourself!
>   here is some point therapy recomendations. I have not seen this
disease or treated for it. experimental only.

     Another NO SPLEEN 6 disease?

>   Paracites hiding in Kidneys?
>
>   Conception 1 moxa , 7

      UB 2 and 5 Moxa

>
>   DuMai 20
>
>   Triple Burner  3 tonify , 5 moxa , 8 stim
>
>   Kidney 1 moxa , 7 tonify/moxa
>
>   Liver 3
>
>   Gall Bladder 1 , 8 , 10 moxa ,  23 , 34 , 40 , 41
>
>   Large Intestine 20 tonify/moxa
>
>   NOSE POINTS   - kidney point moxa,  supplemental point #1,
supplemental point #2 ton, moxa, bleed ( careful wind exit point?)
>   moxa lumbar point nose?
>
>   EAR POINTS - San-Chiao , Chiao-kan , liver point ,
>
>   Heart 1 sedate
>
>
>
>
> kitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote:
>   I live 25 miles from a "ground zero"...and also have some other
> prerequitsites.   I'm not too scared.   They do sound like alien
> beings however!!!  lol
>
> The 'victims' are mostly in the medical profession and have associated
> disorders of Lyme disease, FMS/CFS.
>
> May be the advent of the superbugs we're always hearing about
> hospitals breeding.
>
> Also, keep you're bare hands out of potted plants....if you live in
> the 'danger zone'.
>
> Kit
>
>
> --- In acupuncture@yahoogroups.com, "Mercurius Trismegistus"
> <magisterium_magnum@> wrote:
> >
> >
>
http://www.mysanantonio.com/global-includes/printstory.jsp?path=/news/metro/stor\
ies/MYSA051106.morgellans.KENS.32030524.html
> > Doctors puzzled over bizarre infection surfacing in South Texas
> >
> > Web Posted: 05/12/2006 10:51 AM CDT
> > Deborah Knapp
> > KENS 5 Eyewitness News
> >
> >
> >
> > If diseases like AIDS and bird flu scare you, wait until you hear
> what's next. Doctors are trying to find out what is causing a bizarre
> and mysterious infection that's surfaced in South Texas.
> >
> > Morgellons disease is not yet known to kill, but if you were to get
> it, you might wish you were dead, as the symptoms are horrible.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Dear Practitioner,

I would like to invite you to you to join us in beautiful Western
Massachussetts for our next intensive taught by Dr. Kunchock Gyaltsen.
Health of Body, Mind & Spirit in Tibetan Medicine will explore the
interdependent relationship between the physical human body and the human
mind and the many factors that contribute to a person’s health or infirmity.
As both a doctor and a monk, his teaching will be a balance between the
scientific and the spiritual, such as the connection with the Medicine
Buddha. This is the first time that he will teach this course here in the
US. I hope you can join us.

Blessings,
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July 9th - 16th in Conway, Massachusets
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Times: 9:30 am - 12:30 pm, 2:00 - 4:00 pm daily
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Vijayaraghavan Subramanian <raghavanks76@...> wrote:
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Iam new to this group i want to know more about acupuncture.
Can any one give me an e-book for acupuncture to know the basic thing of
acupuncture & how to cure the diseases.

Regards
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Hi All,

I would like to ask if Any one know specifications
about "electromagnetic acupuncture equipment", many if
it is possible.

Or some site(internet) or company that sell this kind
of equipment.

Best Regards

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Estrogen dominance, women's problems, amenorrhea, and menopause  Excessive
estrogens and stagnation of blood circulation are the major cause of most
women's problems including breast, uterine and ovarian cancers. According to Dr.
John R. Lee in his book "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause: the
Breakthrough Book on Natural Progesterone" (Warner Books, 1996), estrogen
dominance is the cause of most women's chronic health problems. We are living in
a polluted world where estrogens are present in almost every type of food that
we eat. Since the liver is the organ that removes estrogens, a weak liver that
fails to remove estrogens efficiently may lead to their accumulation for liver
cleansing and strengthening. When excessive estrogens become trapped in the
uterus, ovary, or breast due to stagnation, they over stimulate cell division
and lead to abnormal growth such as fibroids, cysts or cancer in these organs.
Estrogens may also be accumulated in the brain or
  liver because they both have estrogen receptors.
   PMS  A common woman's problem, PMS, is usually caused by high estrogen to
progesterone ratio; the estrogen level may not be high in absolute value but is
high relative to progesterone. The common symptoms of PMS such as mood swings,
depression and bloating are all signs of estrogen dominance. Evening Primrose
oil, which contains estrogenic activity, is a popular supplement for PMS
sufferers. It offers quick relief for PMS symptoms but long-term use may
aggravate the problems. Most people don't realize this. A PMS sufferer who had
been taking evening primrose oil for 4 years came to see me. Her thighs were
swollen with water retention due to excessive estrogens. After I told her to
stop taking evening primrose oil, her swollen thighs became normal in about a
month's time.

   to be continue........... Amenorrhea - Absence or Abnormal Stoppage of
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Hoang Ho <twomtns2002@...> wrote:      Possible manufactured disease or
ozone layer depletion syndrome for toxic property?
   Rome labs is a suspect? Working with lyme disease to make it worse?

   this is a 'blind try' at trying to manage this problem. There are accu methods
for both Lyme disease and paracites and both should be tried. Psychsematica
should be used also. The wormy thing might be managed by incense stick touching,
don't burn yourself!
   here is some point therapy recomendations. I have not seen this disease or
treated for it. experimental only.

   Paracites hiding in Kidneys?

   Conception 1 moxa , 7

   DuMai 20

   Triple Burner  3 tonify , 5 moxa , 8 stim

   Kidney 1 moxa , 7 tonify/moxa

   Liver 3

   Gall Bladder 1 , 8 , 10 moxa ,  23 , 34 , 40 , 41

   Large Intestine 20 tonify/moxa

   NOSE POINTS   - kidney point moxa,  supplemental point #1, supplemental point
#2 ton, moxa, bleed ( careful wind exit point?)
   moxa lumbar point nose?

   EAR POINTS - San-Chiao , Chiao-kan , liver point ,

   Heart 1 sedate




kitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote:
   I live 25 miles from a "ground zero"...and also have some other
prerequitsites.   I'm not too scared.   They do sound like alien
beings however!!!  lol

The 'victims' are mostly in the medical profession and have associated
disorders of Lyme disease, FMS/CFS.

May be the advent of the superbugs we're always hearing about
hospitals breeding.

Also, keep you're bare hands out of potted plants....if you live in
the 'danger zone'.

Kit


--- In acupuncture@yahoogroups.com, "Mercurius Trismegistus"
<magisterium_magnum@...> wrote:
>
>
http://www.mysanantonio.com/global-includes/printstory.jsp?path=/news/metro/stor\
ies/MYSA051106.morgellans.KENS.32030524.html
> Doctors puzzled over bizarre infection surfacing in South Texas
>
> Web Posted: 05/12/2006 10:51 AM CDT
> Deborah Knapp
> KENS 5 Eyewitness News
>
>
>
> If diseases like AIDS and bird flu scare you, wait until you hear
what's next. Doctors are trying to find out what is causing a bizarre
and mysterious infection that's surfaced in South Texas.
>
> Morgellons disease is not yet known to kill, but if you were to get
it, you might wish you were dead, as the symptoms are horrible.
>
>






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