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Re: [Acupuncture Forum] Re: acupuncture polemical question

thanks for this usefull answer.
The problem is that in some cases a therapeut will consider one of the sequence
as a parameter to deteremine his/her treatment. And this is where it could
trigger problems. And many other schools consider yang ming as the pivot between
internal and external... so this is why I find it difficult to solve.
Kind regards
Gerard


xuesheng1999 <nettlesbgood@...> wrote:I was taught that both orders are
possible and both have a textual
basis in the classics. Usually, shaoyang is seen as the pivot between
internal and external, and the clinical manifestations reflect that
(chills and fever alternating). Sometimes a yangming condition
appears as being more internal than shaoyang (deeper in the body-the
bowels- and more severe) but malaria is a shaoyang disease and is
more severe than a little burning anus that might come from eating
pakistani food (thats good stuff!)- The shang han lun, the text from
which this theory comes, even states that a disease could attack a
level other than taiyang first, so really, anythings possible.

Its not really a contradiction of theories as it is an observation of
the various ways things can work in nature.


--- In acupunctureforum@yahoogroups.com, gerard cal <gers522003@y...>
wrote:
> Hello, I have been learning acupuncture for several years in 2
different schools and I am surprised by a recurring difference in
their conception, which in my view is fundamental:
> 1/ according to some, the sequence of how the perverse energy
enters the body goes like this: tae yang/shao yang/yangming/tae
yin/xue yin/ shao yin
> 2/ according to others, the order is reversed in the last two
levels in yang and in yin and therefore goes like this: tae yang/yang
ming/shao yang/tae yin/shao yin/xue yin.
>
> I believe this fundamental difference has important implications
and I would welcome your comments to contribute putting an end to
this recurring bone of contention among various schools.
> Kind Regards
> Gerard
>
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Hello, I have been learning acupuncture for several years in 2 different schools and I am surprised by a recurring difference in their conception, which in my...
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I was taught that both orders are possible and both have a textual basis in the classics. Usually, shaoyang is seen as the pivot between internal and external,...
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Aug 11, 2003
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thanks for this usefull answer. The problem is that in some cases a therapeut will consider one of the sequence as a parameter to deteremine his/her treatment....
gerard cal
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Oh yeah, about jueyin (not xueyin) and shaoyin being reversed - I was taught both of these also and the explanation I recieved was that the shang han lun...
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thanks for this very interesting reply. But the problem remains in the yang layers, as the reverse order not only refers to jueyin/shaoyin but also to shaoyang...
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... not only refers to jueyin/shaoyin but also to shaoyang and yangming. ... tae yang, shao yang, yang ming, but this other school says tae yang, yang ming,...
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Hi Gerard, Please: View - Encoding - Chinese Traditional (Big5) I found Yangming ¶§©ú most frequently translated by "the brightest yang", which is...
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