After a while you learn the subtle difference between holding a hand and chaining a soul And you learn that love doesn't mean leaning And company doesn't mean security And you begin to learn That kisses aren't contracts And presents aren't promises
And you begin to accept your defeats With your head up And your eyes ahead, With the Grace of a Woman, Not the grief of a child
And you learn to build all of your roads on Today because tomorrow's ground is too uncertain for plans And futures have a way of falling down in mid-flight
After a while you learn that even sunshine burns if you get too much.
So you plant your Own garden and decorate your Own soul, instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.
And you learn that you really *can* endure... That you really *are* strong... And that you really
*do* have worth. And you learn and you learn... With every goodbye you learn. ~*~*~*~
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If you need any help let me know would be glad to help. This group
has done wonders for me
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> I do! I need to get back into meetings real bad! I live in Royal
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> Maryann Gogoleski <anny@a...> wrote:Hi Scott.... How did you find
out that you have diabetes? Is type 2 the one that you have to take
meds and not injections? What school are you going to? The same
one? I wrote to everyone to join up on the message board. The next
step is to threaten to bomb their computers.
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> Still here. Haven't posted much just found out have type 2
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Maryann Gogoleski <anny@...> wrote:
Hi Scott.... How did you find out that you have diabetes? Is type 2 the one that you have to take meds and not injections? What school are you going to? The same one? I wrote to everyone to join up on the message board. The next step is to threaten to bomb their computers.
Still here. Haven't posted much just found out have type 2 diabetes. And going back to school yippie
--- In a-i-m@yahoogroups.com, Scott Vetter <svetter@a...> wrote:
(Raises hand shyly) I do...
Maryann Gogoleski wrote:
That's a good question. Don't recall me ever saying I had
diabetes... As far as I know I don't. Still going to the University of
Phoenix and probably will till next year this time.
Nah, just threaten them with a whole bunch of spy ware...
Scott
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Hi Scott.... How did you find out that you have diabetes? Is type 2
the one that you have to take meds and not injections? What school are
you going to? The same one? I wrote to everyone to join up on the
message board. The next step is to threaten to bomb their computers.
Still here. Haven't posted much just found out have type 2 diabetes. And going back to school yippie
--- In a-i-m@yahoogroups.com, Scott Vetter <svetter@a...> wrote:
(Raises hand shyly) I do...
Maryann Gogoleski wrote:
Still here. Haven't posted much just found out have type 2
diabetes. And going back to school yippie
--- In a-i-m@yahoogroups.com, Scott Vetter <svetter@a...> wrote:
> (Raises hand shyly) I do...
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> Maryann Gogoleski wrote:
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gotta love yourself, gotta be your
best friend
ain't nobody who'll wait on you when you're acting like
you're nearing the end
even though it's tough, been through so much
what you know you take from it and shape it until it makes you strong
when you find that strength, really
can't complain
the same stuff that brought you down is the same that makes you turn
all around
over the heads of the ones you dread
and nothing comes between you and your higher place ever again
don't you understand me
i don't feel anymore what i felt before
understand me
i don't feel anymore what i felt before
gotta give it up, gotta stand on top
get your feet back on the ground and walk away from what gets you down
there is no time for doing the crime
robbing yourself of life that could be much like a walk in the light
i'm not so special, i've come back from hell
to realize that nothing matters ever unless i let it
don't you understand me
i don't feel anymore what i felt before
understand me
i don't feel anymore what i felt before
an invitation to my graduation
gotta listen to the positive message and take it all in
don't you understand me
i don't feel anymore what i felt before
understand me
i don't feel anymore what i felt before
gotta love yourself, gotta be your best friend ain't nobody who'll wait on you when you're acting like you're nearing the end even though it's tough, been through so much what you know you take from it and shape it until it makes you strong
when you find that strength, really can't complain the same stuff that brought you down is the same that makes you turn all around over the heads of the ones you dread and nothing comes between you and your higher place ever again
don't you understand me i don't feel anymore what i felt before understand me i don't feel anymore what i felt before
gotta give it up, gotta stand on top get your feet back on the ground and walk away from what gets you down there is no time for doing the crime robbing yourself of life that could be much like a walk in the light i'm not so special, i've come back from hell to realize that nothing matters ever unless i let it
don't you understand me i don't feel anymore what i felt before understand me i don't feel anymore what i felt before
an invitation to my graduation gotta listen to the positive message and take it all in
don't you understand me i don't feel anymore what i felt before understand me i don't feel anymore what i felt before
I have come here often but only saw the old messages. I was beginning to wonder the same thing Maryann.
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--- In a-i-m@yahoogroups.com, Maryann Gogoleski <anny@a...> wrote:
> Anybody still belong to our message board?
I have come here often but only saw the old messages. I was
beginning to wonder the same thing Maryann.
I told you I would write again...and here I am to remind you......Today, April 30th, AIM will be celebrating it's 21st Birthday!! I hope you received an invitation, but on the offchance you did not, please know that it won't be a party without YOU. Please come! It is at 7 o'clock, at Huntington Woods Lutheran Church, 12937 W. Eleven Mile Rd. (between Woodward and Coolidge). Our speaker will be, Stephen Pravel PhD. His topic is "Amplification Anxiety and Catastrophication". We will also be having a raffle, with the main prize being a brand new stereo system (among other things). Tickets will be $1.00.
If this does not entice you, come anyway. It will be fun! You may see people that you have not seen for a long time, or you may even meet a new friend. The main gist of this celebration is recovery! Celebrate because it exists, it's attainable, and we will support you while you are working on it!
Friday, April 30th, AIM will be celebrating it's 21st Birthday!! I hope you received an invitation, but on the offchance you did not, please know that it won't be a party without YOU. Please come! It is at 7 o'clock, at Huntington Woods Lutheran Church, 12937 W. Eleven Mile Rd. (between Woodward and Coolidge). Our speaker will be, Stephen Pravel PhD. His topic is "Amplification Anxiety and Catastrophication". We will also be having a raffle, with the main prize being a brand new stereo system (among other things). Tickets will be $1.00.
If this does not entice you, come anyway. It will be fun! You may see people that you have not seen for a long time, or you may even meet a new friend. The main gist of this celebration is recovery! Celebrate because it exists, it's attainable, and we will support you while you are working on it!
Just a note to tell you that we all really enjoy having you attend our meetings. We are hoping to see you again, as your presence really adds to our group. Let me invite you to come to our Eastside group, in Roseville. This group meets on Tuesday evenings at 7:30pm, at St Athanasius Church, 18720 Thirteen Mile Rd., Roseville, MI (between Gratiot and Groesbeck). Enter the door that says Office. On the 27th of January, we will be having a speaker by the name of Dr. Deborah Dahl. She was a former member of AIM that went on to become a psychologist.
Whatever you choose to do, remember that recovery is 100% possible!
mr_mrs_radams wrote:
>I am a new memeber on here however, A.I.M. has been a wonderful
>friend to me over the years!!!!!!!!! I wanted to know if there was
>sceduled times for chat? I think chat is a wonderful idea as there
>are many who cannot leave their home to attend meetings or meetings
>available to them in their area.
>
>
>
Hello:
There is only a message board and no chat facility (or at least
yet). Not a bad idea though. Since there is only a message board,there
are no scheduled times.
Scott
I am a new memeber on here however, A.I.M. has been a wonderful
friend to me over the years!!!!!!!!! I wanted to know if there was
sceduled times for chat? I think chat is a wonderful idea as there
are many who cannot leave their home to attend meetings or meetings
available to them in their area.
Hi Everyone! I hope all goes well for you and that you know your friendship means a great deal to me. Most of you already live exactly like the Dalai Lama advises us to but when I got this sent to me, I figured it was worthwhile to send to you as good luck insurance in the coming year.
Here's to the end of a beautiful Holiday Season and the beginning of a very Happy, Healthy and Peaceful New Year for us all!
This is what The Dalai Lama has to say on the millennium, which began 01/01/2003. All it takes is a few seconds to read and think about. Do not keep this message. The mantra must leave your hands within 96 hours. You will get a very pleasant surprise. This is true even if you are not superstitious.
Instructions for Life in the new millennium from the Dalai Lama:
1. Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk.
2. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
3. Follow the three Rs: Respect for self, respect for others and responsibility for all your actions.
4. Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck.
5. Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly.
6. Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
7. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it.
8. Spend some time alone every day.
9. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your values.
10. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.
11. Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you'll be able to enjoy it a second time.
12. A loving atmosphere in your home is the foundation for your life.
13. In disagreements with loved ones, deal only with the current situation. Don't bring up the past.
14. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality.
15. Be gentle with the earth.
16. Once a year, go some place you've never been before.
17. Remember that the best relationship is one in which your love for each other exceeds your need for each other.
18. Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.
19. Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.
Do not keep this message. The mantra must leave your hands within 96 hours. You will get a very pleasant surprise (this is true even if you are not superstitious) if you send it to:
0-4 people: Your life will improve slightly.
5-9 people: Your life will improve to your liking.
Hi Gang...Check out the AIM website....An old time AIM member has passed away and there is a place for you to add your memories of him. His name was Fred.
I received this in an email and thought I would pass it along. I think the point is that they would not donate to the veterans, not to social action groups, etc. I don't like Target stores, anyway. I was curious as to what some of you think???
mary ann
Vietnam Veterans Association
Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a proud sponsor of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring recognition event.
We received the following reply from the local TARGET management: "Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts, social action groups, gay & lesbian causes, and education."
So I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and veterans in general do not meet their donation criteria, then something is really wrong at this TARGET store. We were not asking for thousands of dollars, not even hundreds, just a small sponsorship for a memorial remembrance.
As a follow-up, I e-mailed the TARGET U.S. corporate headquarters and their response was the same. That's their national policy.
Then I looked into the company further. They will not allow the Marines to collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their stores. And during the recent Iraq deployment, they would not allow families of employees who were called up for active duty to continue their insurance coverage while they were on military service. Then as I dig further, TARGET is a French-owned corporation.
Now, I'm thinking again. If TARGET can not support American Veterans, then why should I and my family support their stores by spending our hard earned American dollars and to have their profits sent to France. Without the American Vets, where would France be today?
Feel free to pass this along to whomever you want.
how did you do at preschool? i bet it turned out fine. we can always do the things that we need to do. we might not like it, but we do it. that only tells you that you are really capable, you just don't know it!
hypnotherapy is good. you totally relax and then introduce some positive statements.(afffirmations).
i am in the uk. i was having counselling for a while but it was not doing very much for me. i have heard a lot of good things about hypnotyherpy which i am looking into trying. big well done to you for getting through it. do you live a normal life now or do you still find it hard some days have you taken a holiday yet i really miss that. i have worked up the courage to take kayleigh ( my oldest) to pre school today have to leave in about half an hour so wish me luck.
yours tina
anny <anny@...> wrote:
you don't have to take antidepressants because you can change your biochemistry with behavioral/cognitive techniques. it might take longer, and i know it takes a lot of work, but it's worth it. i figure you just have to go off the meds eventually, anyway.
yes, i have been recovered for a number of years. i did not take meds because i was phobic about that. i was just sick and tired of being sick and tired. i wasn't doing anything with my kids, in fact, i wasn't doing anything. i was willing to do anything (almost), and son of a gun, it worked!
concentrate on you, right now. School is a long way off. the most important thing is for you to start feeling better.
i am in the uk. i was having counselling for a while but it was not doing very much for me. i have heard a lot of good things about hypnotyherpy which i am looking into trying. big well done to you for getting through it. do you live a normal life now or do you still find it hard some days have you taken a holiday yet i really miss that. i have worked up the courage to take kayleigh ( my oldest) to pre school today have to leave in about half an hour so wish me luck.
yours tina
anny <anny@...> wrote:
you don't have to take antidepressants because you can change your biochemistry with behavioral/cognitive techniques. it might take longer, and i know it takes a lot of work, but it's worth it. i figure you just have to go off the meds eventually, anyway.
yes, i have been recovered for a number of years. i did not take meds because i was phobic about that. i was just sick and tired of being sick and tired. i wasn't doing anything with my kids, in fact, i wasn't doing anything. i was willing to do anything (almost), and son of a gun, it worked!
concentrate on you, right now. School is a long way off. the most important thing is for you to start feeling better.
you don't have to take antidepressants because you can change your biochemistry with behavioral/cognitive techniques. it might take longer, and i know it takes a lot of work, but it's worth it. i figure you just have to go off the meds eventually, anyway.
yes, i have been recovered for a number of years. i did not take meds because i was phobic about that. i was just sick and tired of being sick and tired. i wasn't doing anything with my kids, in fact, i wasn't doing anything. i was willing to do anything (almost), and son of a gun, it worked!
concentrate on you, right now. School is a long way off. the most important thing is for you to start feeling better.
thanks for your reply. my doctor did suggest antidepressants but i didnt really want to go down that road.have you recovered from agrophobia and how long as been. because it sometimes seems like this is going to go on for ever. my oldest starts school next year and i want to be able to take but not sure if i will be able to.
yours tina
anny <anny@...> wrote:
hi tina! welcome to a.i.m.! my name is mary ann, and i have been with aim for many years. you asked what works and what doesn't.... well, basically there are 2 kinds of treatments. one is medicine (antidepressants, anti-anxiety etc), and the other is behavioral/cognitive restructuring (which really means - change your behaviors and your thoughts). medicine is a choice. behavioral/cognitive stuff is necessary. a.i.m. can't give you medical advice, that is between you and your doctor, but we can tell you that changing your behavior, and most importantly, your thoughts, is necessary. it's a lot of hard work, but well worth it. to me, knowing that i could recover from agoraphobia was the biggest relief. i did not care what i had to do to obtain. check out the website www.aim-hq.org i have 4
kids, but they are much older than yours. i have 3 girls and 1 boy. keep in touch. yours in recovery, mary ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "tina" <tina1304uk@...> To: <a-i-m@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:30 AM Subject: [a-i-m] hello
> hi i am new to this group. i will just tell a bit about myself. my > name is tina i am 23 and i have 2 kids age 4 and 13month both girls > and i have been agrophobic for about 4 years. i would like some > adivce on treatments and what works and what doesent. > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >
hi tina!
welcome to a.i.m.! my name is mary ann, and i have been with aim for many
years. you asked what works and what doesn't.... well, basically there are
2 kinds of treatments. one is medicine (antidepressants, anti-anxiety etc),
and the other is behavioral/cognitive restructuring (which really means -
change your behaviors and your thoughts). medicine is a choice.
behavioral/cognitive stuff is necessary. a.i.m. can't give you medical
advice, that is between you and your doctor, but we can tell you that
changing your behavior, and most importantly, your thoughts, is necessary.
it's a lot of hard work, but well worth it. to me, knowing that i could
recover from agoraphobia was the biggest relief. i did not care what i had
to do to obtain. check out the website
www.aim-hq.org
i have 4 kids, but they are much older than yours. i have 3 girls and 1
boy.
keep in touch.
yours in recovery,
mary ann
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:30 AM
Subject: [a-i-m] hello
> hi i am new to this group. i will just tell a bit about myself. my
> name is tina i am 23 and i have 2 kids age 4 and 13month both girls
> and i have been agrophobic for about 4 years. i would like some
> adivce on treatments and what works and what doesent.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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hi i am new to this group. i will just tell a bit about myself. my
name is tina i am 23 and i have 2 kids age 4 and 13month both girls
and i have been agrophobic for about 4 years. i would like some
adivce on treatments and what works and what doesent.