if i had a dollar for everytime i heard someone say in a aa meeting...i wlll never get well...i will allways be sick. well u would all be working for me...lol...
I believe that this type of talk stems from failure on OUR part. We no longer qualify the alcoholic, we no longer show him how to self diagnose his illness and...
you mean we in aa are failing to carry the true message to alcoholic...you mean we may b responsible for that...i always heard it was the treatment centers...
... I've heard that too, Sam (I see that tongue in your cheek) :) They may contribute to the problem, but treatment centers aren't AA, and have no duty to...
Happy Mother's Day H-is for the happiness you give to me. A- is for the Angel that I so clearly see. P- is for the patience you gave thru the years P- is for...
Let's get a little lively here. Hypothetical question: I have a problem with booze. I have lost my business, my family, mostly all of my friends. I have been...
When you "concede to you innermost self that you are an alcoholic", it depends upon what you are conceding. For me, to have taken step one means that I...
Well, perhaps the first part of Step 1. I like to review Step 1 with newcomers by showing them the alternate wording in the three pertinent ideas found on page...
i beleive i took step one the time i went to my first meeting.i went from 2 to3 fifths a day to nothing after my first meeting.it was very obvious to me that i...
Danny wrote: << He asks me: "Do you concede to your innermost self that you are alcoholic"? If I answer "yes", have I taken step one? >> I'd say you should...
Danny's on to something here!! This one really made me think. I've just recently started sponsoring in the program - so, my answer will probly have holes but;...
Very interesting and timely question. I attend a step study that uses the big book rather than the 12&12. It breaks the 1st step into two parts. 1. Admitted...
steve ;its in how it works.you are right you don;t have to be an alcoholic to have an unmanageabe life but i as an alccoholic raveged my life much more then a...
Steve unmanageability is all over the basic text. I hope that no one will take this the wrong way. I believe that once I understand what unmanageability is...
Interesting and thoughtful responses. I am still reading them. I don't think that the simple concession that we are alcoholic is sufficient in order for us to...
I have a friend in the Bronx who is still "out there" going mad from alcoholism, and he readily knows and admits that he is an alcoholic. He has attended...
Anybody going up to Bill W's for the picnic and hike of Mt Aeolus? I want to know if there is going to be any competition for the history quiz that there...
Ok I'll bite Jim. Actually what I should do is respond properly to the question I asked previously, in the "hypothetical question"thread. There were several...
I never heard of this as a term until I moved to NYC from eastern Long Island in 1997. I first associated cross talk with talking while someone else was...
Hi Jim, I'm new to the group here. I took you up on your offer on another group and decided to see what things were like on this board. Thank you for the...
I guess crosstalk means different things in different parts of the country - In Buffalo and Central Virginia it means carrying on a conversation with the one...
How do you expect me to share my ES&H if there is no 'cross talk?' To keep the message focused on the truth that is in the book, we have to comment on anothers...
In a 12&12 step meeting I used to go to regularly it was written right into the guidelines before each meeting. It basically said "No cross talking about the...
One of the things I learned early on was that anything I said in a meeting was fair game. People were going to comment on what I said from time to time and I...
well i got sober out in eastern long island back in '94 and thank god people spoke about what i said at meetings...during the meeting and afterwards...did i...
I always thought that cross talk meant an open back and forth dialogue. Sometimes it happens by accident. Like when you ask a new-comer a question...."Do you...
In western PA, 'cross-talk' is understood as starting a dialogue with another person while sharing during a discussion meeting. Commenting on someone else's...
Thank you Bob. That was inspirational...clear, non-offensive and direct. That's why this message board is great! Stuff like that! Clarity is sweet! "Bob G."...
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