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Re: Steps 7, 8 & 9


Hi Jim and all (Hmm? Where is all?)

An interesting point.
However "it says" that we made the list in step 4.
But offcource, perhaps it was incomplete.
Anyway the help from step 7 can/may be important
on order to achieve the willingness in step 8.

So the list in step 4 is not a done deal.
Step 8 is a real and important step

And offcource I never put myself on that list.
The grace of God (of my understanding) has
given me more than I expected.

Just my 5 cents (the extra 3 for my bad english)

All the best

Paul S. aka soberfinn
Recovered from a seemingly.....yoy know




--- In We_Have_Recovered@yahoogroups.com, "Jim K." <jknyc@...> wrote:
>
> A family friend named Jack Brennan got sober in 1942 in the early
days
> of AA. He died in 1987 but I had the good fortune of knowing him in
my
> early days of sobriety. He used to group these three steps- 7, 8 &
9
> together. It seemed weird to me - I thought that 4 & 5, 6 & 7, 8 &
9
> went together in pairs.
>
> He explained to me that Step 7 was preparing me for the next step.
The
> humility I needed to write an 8th Step list with a dose of reality
> would come as a result of Step 7. And he was right - not for a
moment
> did I consider putting myself on that list - never mind at the top
as
> I hear shared in the rooms of AA today. If selfishness, self
> centeredness was the root of my problem thinking I belong on that
list
> surely means I missed the whole point of Step 3 - never mind the
steps
> that followed.
>
> Jim - Recovered!
>





Fri Feb 9, 2007 6:46 am

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A family friend named Jack Brennan got sober in 1942 in the early days of AA. He died in 1987 but I had the good fortune of knowing him in my early days of...
Jim K.
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Feb 8, 2007
12:54 pm

Hi Jim and all (Hmm? Where is all?) An interesting point. However "it says" that we made the list in step 4. But offcource, perhaps it was incomplete. Anyway...
Paul S.
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Feb 9, 2007
6:48 am

We also have to keep in mind that the time element has changed since the book was written and there is the real appearaance of a new list being generated. This...
Jim K.
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Feb 9, 2007
1:17 pm

Hi Folks , I have begun making amends , 3 serious ones so far . In my case step 4 nor step 8 was a done deal . I was informed of something I had done in drink...
Des Green
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Feb 9, 2007
10:57 pm

Des, I've had similar instances with Step 8 and 9. The key is willingness. Willingness to accept that that we did harm ( even if we don't remember it ) and...
Jocelyn
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Feb 9, 2007
11:33 pm

Spot on , same for me. Some days when things come into my mind I feel like putting my head in my hands and screaming ; which is why I am so thankful I have...
Des Green
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Feb 10, 2007
4:19 pm

In Step 4 we are asked to be searching, fearless and thorough. If we have been then we have made a good beginning. We are then asked to discuss these ‘chunks...
David Jones
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Feb 9, 2007
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